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I'm sure the first thing you're wondering if you haven't been reading the "MINDGAME OOC" thread is what is this Limbo Sequence you speak of? If you are familiar with the Illusion, it is a similiar creature, though with less constraints and fewer requirements to admission. If you are not familiar with the Illusion, think of Limbo Sequence as a boundless plane where you're essentially free to write whatever you want, and interact with other writers and their characters/creations.
I know I said there are fewer requirements for admission, but there are 2 requirements that prospective writers are asked to observe.
You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the Limbo Sequence!
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LOL yeah I got that feel too haha, try this one on for size: There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space, and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition. And it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. It is an area which we call the Limbo Sequence. LOL yeah that's one of my favorite intros of twilight zone.
Oooo-K lol I'll have a post up soon, just had to map out everything first =)
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tesseract? Is that like the thing in Wrinkle of Time? Either way, you can really write however you get there any way you want, b/c it can be explained as the effects of the grasp of the feed-back loop.
I'm excited that CoOp and Ke'ak have already posted, perhaps I can slay the forces of Fatigue and manage to get something up today, we'll see. I enjoyed ya'lls posts though.
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I'm percolating an idea to launch me into the loop, but I'd like to use Ms. Wong, the dreadful old hermit as the real-life character. However, she gets pulled into the Illusion as she was in her youth. She's a latecomer, having never shared in the previous adventures; but perhaps in losing herself in Limbo, she'll find what she's lost in the real world. If this idea is okay, I'll post it tomorrow after I've let it steep its full flavor.
(Yeah, tesseract is from Wrinkle in Time. I meant it as a joke, 'cause Co-Op's post made me think of it.)
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I hope no one minds that I decided to just launch myself in, but I really do need a consistent writing project lest my own self doubt consume me. Anyway, I took pieces of an old mind game plot I never really finished dreaming up and threw them together, so I'll see where this takes me if you all don't mind. Also, if I need to fix anything just let me know, but since the idea seemed to be "just come up with anything" I thought I'd toy with that.
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I think that's what we're up to. We're just kind of spitballing around. I think the whole point is just to write, not necessarily to go anywhere in particular.
That said, aren't Angelus and Angel both Buffy references? Love that show.
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Yes, but it wasn't intentional. Honestly, I just needed a fitting name for my angel, so I decided to name her Angelus, which is, of course, redundant, as Fenris points out. That said, Buffy is fantastic. In fact, I think I'm going to start watching it again...
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Welcome ArtiR and El Toro, as Ke'ak affirmed in his last post, Limbo is indeed a place of much spitballing around, and he was accurate in saying that the whole point is just to write.
Also, Buffy is a good show, but Angel is much better, imo.
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I would definitely agree that Mr.Whedon is a fantastic writer, but I just have to say that I wasn't a big fan of Dollhouse. I dunno, something about it just never clicked for me. Still, I love a lot of his works, and for all of his skill in writing for Television, i think he's actually better at working in comics. His work on Astonishing X-Men and Runaways is phenomenal. Also, I can't wait to see what he does with the Avengers movie.
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If I'm being too cliche or too out of bounds, please let me know. I like painting word pictures of places and events that are familiar. Writing fantasy is a whole new experience for me.
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Anyone have a suggestion as to where to go, what to do next? We can start hiking through the woods, but maybe we should decide something vague to work with?
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hey just wanted to check in, so ya'll know I haven't disappeared, I'm working on a post right now.
As far as what to do next, I'm not so sure. However I've been cultivating the idea that there is a whole culture and race of beings indigenous to the feedback loop plane. Perhaps our characters might be viewed as enemies by them and get in some clashes before finding out our characters aren't evil or whatever.
Of course, this begs the question of who are their enemies? I was thinking there could be some kind of pirates that patrol the area of the loop. Or maybe strange new creatures created by the mind game, since it's a spawning zone of sorts.
Just shooting out some ideas, I dunno. I'll have my post up soon.
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Glad to know somebody else thinks so, it tends to get overlooked among the great X-books. I don't know why, it really is one of the finest books(well, multiple books technically, but whatever) that the franchise has ever produced. Whedon just has a talent for understanding how all of the different mutants interact, and on top of that he's just got a real flare for interesting concepts. Also, it has a sentient, malevolent danger room, what's not to love? Also, to be honest I've been toying with a few concepts involving the nature of the game myself(I have no idea why, I should be trying to figure out my characters more, but whatever), and in particular, I thought about the fact that part of this feedback loop is breaking down things that were once part of the game. So I got to thinking, what if the game tried to reassemble a whole bunch of things that represented the unhappiness of the players, how would something like that respond to meeting our heroes? Not positively I can imagine, so that could be a potential enemy. I dunno, it's just a thought, I'm just trying to get back into the swing of writing on a regular basis, so everything is just sort of stream of consciousness for me.
EDIT-Actually, looking at it now I don't think I'm doing a bad job, I just need to work on expressing some of my ideas clearly. The fact that I don't go into as much detail as everyone else doesn't mean that they've developed everything more, it just means that I feel the need to state less. Or I just suck and I don't want to admit it, but either way I think I need to stop having such a negative view of myself.
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I haven't really gotten to the "limbo" part on my side as of yet, so I don't have any ideas. I certainly do have a post in the works, probably might start working on it tomorrow since I will have a little down time...and I might as well get it done over the week because this weekend is fight night lol (UFC-George St. Pierre vs. Jake Shields, don't know if you guys watch it, but yeah...lol)
Sidenote: ArtiR, I agree with the latter. Too hard on yourself lol Like I said to El Toro, I think you both are doing a great job.
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ArtiR you're doing fine, just keep writing As for your concept about the MG reassembling things that represented the unhappiness of the heroes, I don't want it to seem like I'm shooting it down but several of our characters participated in a very similiar plot to that and I feel like it would be a somewhat repetitive experience for them. However, we are creative people here, so we could think of something I'm sure if others wanted to pursue that idea.
Also, as for something to do. I was thinking you guys could somehow find your way to the volcano so Caspar could meet up with them. If not, I can just have him catch up on his own and just find them somewhere.
Ke'ak, I must confess I feel like I'm stealing your idea about breaking the fourth wall, but it's such a great idea I've been inspired to incorporate it into my next post as Caspar.
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The character Xue was supposed to be Lily Wong/Adebah's younger self. Her 'friend' was quite a bit more, but he got sent off with the third invasion fleet. She was invited to Battle School as a teacher when it first opened, but when it became apparent she would never see her love again, she became bitter and withdrawn. As such, she was no longer fit to teach, but was making such good progress with the gaming system that she was kept on for that project alone. Now a frightful old hermit, she holds Medusa's power to scare anyone into a virtual statue just by looking at her; and her breath can kill a rat from across the room. She is vengeful, and enjoys destroying avatars in the most gruesome of ways. Her life is darkness, and she is thought of as a spider in the shadows. Now in the world of the Illusion, she must face these ancient memories that apparently she has repressed after such a long time and deal with the cause of her bitterness. It's not the same as what the students face because their life has been so short and controlled. In her case, she has been in control of her fate, except in the one thing that mattered most.
Hopefully this gives some background to the character that she wasn't able to share herself.
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Caspar... It will be interesting to put Kyle and him together again.
Now, I think we ought to decide now before we get going, especially if we're going to get into the fourth-wall stuff...
Are these two going to be enemies again? Or are they going to be old chums who've kind of been through the ringer together?
If we're going to break the fourth wall again, then I think it makes more sense for them to have kind of gone through it already, with the idea that they were kind of playing a "role" for the readers.
Or, even better, maybe they were playing a role, but their relationship is actually far different than we've ever portrayed it. They could be old drinking buddies, or maybe they just all-out can't stand each other while "on set" and just do this because it's their job.
I don't know. I'd like to discuss, because it's interesting to place these two old rivals into this rather off-the-wall setting.
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I'll see if I can't get us to the volcano.
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Ke'ak, you hit the nail right on the head. It's like you're in my head, lol. I was already thinking it would be cool to have Caspar and Kyle as chums, since it's something we've never really tried, except for when you were writing for Caspar in my absence a while back.
I like your idea of them playing a role for the readers, sounds like something we could run with. Let's see what we can do with that. I'm re-animating Caspar in my next post, so he'll be ready for interaction soon.
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Hey guys, just wanted to say I'm really happy about everyone's posts and activity so far. It's really great and I'm rather enjoying this limbo topic.
Also, if ya'll want to interact with the sprites, or the caspsule, feel free too. You can write for the sprites, or I can just respond as them if you talk to them. Also, some background info on the sprites, they're both impressively and vastly intelligent beings, however, for their kind, they are regarded as being quite young and immature still. Pan has the ability to sense and read someone's mental signature (similiar to telepathy/empathy, however it's more technical and less empathic) and is technologically proficient, and & is a hand to hand combat expert, and a talented cook.
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I'm headed out the door, but I'll try to get a post knocked out before I go to sleep tonight. That was some funny stuff, Amory. Cracked me up.
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I know I have nothing to do with anything, but why not make the Limbo sequence be about the whole breaking of the fourth wall. It's a catch and it is something original for this site. And since things have been getting a bit 'cliche', why not let everyone go with that? It will open up new avenues not just for the two of you, but for everyone. I think that would be crazy interesting. Two cents.
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Okay. The best way to explain this would be to use a stage play as an example:
When you're watching a performance, there are generally four "walls" on a stage. There is stage left and right, and the back wall of the stage itself where the backdrops or scenery are. Then there is the empty front "wall."
This fourth wall is generally the window through which the audience views the play. The characters, generally, act as if there were an actual wall there, not acknowledging the audience whatsoever.
The concept of "breaking" that fourth wall is when a character or characters in the performance turns, and addresses the audience. This can be by subtly explaining something to the audience quickly, or even by freezing the action to respond to a joke or story with an anecdote.
Examples of this include the look at the camera by Jim Halpert of The Office, or Deadpool's addressing of the fact that he's a comic book character in Marvel Comics.
Some of the best films that have used this effect include Spaceballs, Blazing Saddles, George of the Jungle, or the Muppet movies.
What we're doing is more of a semi-break of the fourth wall, where our characters are well-aware of who they are, but are addressing their unnamed writers as their "creators," with themselves as characters. They don't so much address the audience but instead are looking at their situation from a different point of view. It's similar to breaking the fourth wall, but they aren't addressing the reader but instead are acknowledging their own state in the stories that they are experiencing.
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ok, I can still write funny, sweet. I thought I had lost my mojo for a while.
also, well said, both of you.
also, I agree with you ten, it could prove to be an interesting concept for everyone to explore that sets this apart from the illusion, as well as most of the other writing on this forum.
So I say full-steam ahead into uncharted waters, at least as far as VBS is concerned.
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Okay, I get it. I hadn't heard the term "fourth wall" before (shows you how long it's been since I've been out of school ), but a lot of Shakespearean plays use this concept. I've got a bit of extra work to do, because most of your characters are already self-aware. Miss Wong isn't even aware of where she is yet, much less self-aware. The creator stepping into her own creation, only to realize that she herself is someone else's creation, and her creation isn't even her own. This is going to be fun.
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ack, it's Jos, hey! I'm so excited you're writing with us.
Anyways, sorry I haven't posted in a few days, I had to write a 15 paper for a Lit Criticism Theory class I'm taking. I'll have a post up momentarily.
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LOL! I've come to the conclusion K that you are truly an A-hole. (Sorry for the choice of words but that was exactly what came to mind when I laughed out loud after your post about the hazel eyed warrior.) Oh wait wait wait. Swordsman.
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What? Why would you say that? Normally I'm all good with the busting of my own chops and all, but I really don't know what you mean, Ten.
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You guys are so cute together. Gearing up another post!
Might I add, Co-op, that your writing has just skyrocketed.
I'm going to try not to get sucked into "let's stare and wait" hump... or maybe I'll say something about it in my post. Talking to myself. Glad to be back!
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Thank you, angelo, I should have read this before posting. Oh well, I don't feel like editing now. Anyway, my only problem is getting Fenris out of her entirely distrustful phase. I mean ,it makes sense with her character, but it's getting kind of out of hand. Oh well, I'll figure out some way to ease her through that development over time. Also, I'll find SOME way to develop Angelus, but I haven't got a clue how, especially because I love writing her as being the snarky, useless spirit guide that she currently is.
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As for your concept about the MG reassembling things that represented the unhappiness of the heroes, I don't want it to seem like I'm shooting it down but several of our characters participated in a very similiar plot to that and I feel like it would be a somewhat repetitive experience for them. However, we are creative people here, so we could think of something I'm sure if others wanted to pursue that idea.![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
), but a lot of Shakespearean plays use this concept. I've got a bit of extra work to do, because most of your characters are already self-aware. Miss Wong isn't even aware of where she is yet, much less self-aware. The creator stepping into her own creation, only to realize that she herself is someone else's creation, and her creation isn't even her own. This is going to be fun.
