This gives me hope.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
I don't think it was just for the children. After all, they made some more with each other, and Petra did say that she loved both Bean and Peter.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I am quite certain it was not just for the children.
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
Me too. They were normal human beings, hungry for love; they spent time together, respected each other, KNEW each other, served each other. The only BARRIER was Bean's fear of passing along his genetic condition; otherwise, it was as sound a foundation for marriage as one can imagine.
Posted by EndertheJedi (Member # 7889) on :
I wasnt surprised when I founf out that they were married cause OSc set it up perfectly.but if someonr told me befor I reead any of the books other than Enders game I would have been suprised. Up until the end when Ender started planet hopping I always thought that he and petra would get together. bean and petra also made sence because of the build up through thge series. but if she could have married ender than why not the next best thing in peter especially since his character mellowed alot in the shadow series.form a violent mildly Psychotic seeming charctyer bent on ruling the world to a mildly ambitios cllege syudent who wants to sovle all the worlds problems and actually has the intelligence for a decent try. What is a tad ironic though is that correct me if Im wrong but Petra is the femine form of Pete. they both have the same name and trhen they get married.
Posted by Jacob Calder (Member # 7945) on :
I was kind of surprised, but once I thought about it, it made perfect sence, especially with what Peter's mother told Bean in Shadow of the Hegemon. With both of their ambition, Peter probably was the only one for Petra aside from Bean or Ender.
I was hoping in Shadow of the Giant that there might be more of a reaction from Ender when he spoke to Peter. I know Ender was beginning his role as Speaker of the Dead, but considering how little of time had passed for him, Ender seemed very removed from everything, but much of Peter's life involved people very dear to Ender, especially Petra.
Posted by Jacob Calder (Member # 7945) on :
I was kind of surprised, but once I thought about it, it made perfect sence, especially with what Peter's mother told Bean in Shadow of the Hegemon. With both of their ambition, Peter probably was the only one for Petra aside from Bean or Ender.
I was hoping in Shadow of the Giant that there might be more of a reaction from Ender when he spoke to Peter. I know Ender was beginning his role as Speaker of the Dead, but considering how little of time had passed for him, Ender seemed very removed from everything, but much of Peter's life involved people very dear to Ender, especially Petra.
Posted by EndertheJedi (Member # 7889) on :
well , to be honest i think that in real life ENder would have asked after Bean or pettra mrore if he new that Peter was deeply involved with them workwise and such, but he may not have been told that bean and peter worked together or that peter married pertra. he prolly did but maybe not. you also have to remeber that since alot of the talk that peter had with ender had to match up between Shadow of the hegemon and enders game. not all of it but most of it anyway.
Posted by Catseye1979 (Member # 5560) on :
I always figured that Ender did keep tabs on all his friends, it just wasn't mentioned in the book. He probly knew a great deal of what happened with most his battle school friends but since it wasn't importanted to what he did later it wasn't mentioned.
Posted by KEGE (Member # 424) on :
I thought it was a wonderful pairing - Peter and Petra!
I loved the way the reader finally realized that Peter loved Petra right at the same time that Petra did - when she realized that the note from Bean that Peter read aloud to her did NOT begin with "I love you".
Peter really has been the most complex character of the whole Ender/Shadow series. We hate him as a child and begin to respect him as an "adult" and finally come to care for him in SotG. Some day I will read them all in a row to experience the transformation more fully.
Posted by Silverdrop (Member # 8581) on :
I just finished Shadow of the Giant. I actually just stumbled upon the whole series a couple of weeks ago, so I was fortunate to be able to read them all in a row. I was really happy for both Peter and Petra that they were able to love eachother. I feel they both deserved it and I love how Orson glosses over the end. He gives you a feel for their lives without getting into the boring details.
It's very late now, so maybe I'm too tired and I can't find the answer, but here it goes: What is the next book? I saw something about a book with Mazer, and something about a book with Bean's 9th child that was shipped to a colony.
What about Bean?! I can't be the only one that wants to at least know if he survives, if there is ever a cure. Maybe it wouldn't even have enough to evolve into a story ... but I need the closure! I really loved Bean and I was so grief striken when I read of his first thought of leaving Petra secretly. I almost wept. I understand the reasoning that was used, but if he's really only going to be in space for a short time (even a couple of years) the family could have stayed together. Petra ended up missing a year of the babies lives anyway. I know it had to be, but it still tore me up.
Ok, rambled. Good night ^^
Posted by dcabrera35 (Member # 8574) on :
I find it hard to believe that Bean's not even 20 when he makes all these hard decisions.
Posted by KEGE (Member # 424) on :
Chronological age is not applicable to Bean.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
Yes, and even non-genetically enhanced kids sometimes have to face adult situations at a young age. Children can grow up pretty fast when they have no other choice, but then, that's pretty much a main theme of the Ender and Shadow books.
Posted by 0range7Penguin (Member # 7337) on :
I find it suprising when you guys say you hated the EG Peter. In Peter I saw a troubled boy and young man but right in EG you start to find out why Peter was the way he was and that he hates those bad parts about himself. You are supposed to be skeptical but I think in a way Peter was actually opening up to Valentine when he talks about controlling himself and how he just had to have control. I find myself understanding Peter the character even in EG. We all have dark sides to our personalitys and in Peter we got to see that side of all of us reflected back at us.