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Posted by Monroe by Warhol (Member # 8999) on :

After I read all the Ender series (shadow and ender) I felt like I really knew a few people, them being:
Ender
Bean
Miro
Jane
Wang-mu
But the one main character who really is still a grey area for me is Valentine. I have read and re-read her PoV parts and maybe I'm just blind or something but I feel like they're covered with a shroud of mystique.

Your thoughts?

Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :

Well that is in part because most of her life was spent traveling with Ender across the hundred worlds.

Posted by Monroe by Warhol (Member # 8999) on :

true; but she DOES have a life, doesn't she? a husband and kids? and she IS Demosthenes, one of if not THE most powerful thinker of her time.

Ah, well. C'est la vie.

Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :

But how interesting could her life as a mother/wife be?

Posted by Monroe by Warhol (Member # 8999) on :

I'm not saying that OSC should write a book about Valentine. I'm not saying that I need the gaps to be filled in. In fact, I like the gaps. Gives me space to stretch my imagination.

But I digress. I'm just saying that I never got a full understanding of Valentine like I did the other characters. Easy as that.

Posted by Monroe by Warhol (Member # 8999) on :

and don't dis moms, yo. [Wink]

Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :

Now I fully understand and I agree with you, the gaps do add a kind of mystic.

Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :

Sorry about that I just didn't think that kind of story would make for a good book.

Posted by Monroe by Warhol (Member # 8999) on :

it's fine, I'm just in a pissy mood. [Smile]

Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :

Thats okay we all get that way sometimes. [Wink]

Posted by Monroe by Warhol (Member # 8999) on :

[Grumble]

=me lol

Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :

You are hilarious Monroe. [Laugh]

Posted by Monroe by Warhol (Member # 8999) on :

i have completely forgotten what this thread was about. gosh i am a thread destroyer.

Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :

Thats okay after all it just seems to be the two of us on here.

Posted by Monroe by Warhol (Member # 8999) on :

lol yup. i might go and re-read SFtD again. tootles!

Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :

Take care, hope to read you again soon. [Smile]

Posted by Lucky_Sean (Member # 6223) on :

I feel sometimes that Valentine doesn't need to be explained as much because we're under the assumption that everyone has had a Valentine in their lives. She is one of those characters that although independantly powerful and meaningful in her own way - is entirely dependant on how we percieve her from our own experiances. She is more of a symbol at times, especially in enders game then a person. She is to strong of a symbol in other books to require a book of her own.