Hegemon's top 10 video games: 10) Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 9) Final Fantasy VII 8) Final Fantasy VIII 7) Chrono Cross 6) Devil May Cry 5) Grand Theft Auto 3 4) Grand Theft Auto Vice City 3) Ico 2) Metal Gear Solid 2 1) Final Fantasy X
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
Oh, the horror! GTA? Awful!
And what is this obsession people have with FFVII and VIII? They aren't even close to being the best in the series!
I do, however, agree with CC and Zelda. The rest I have not played.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I'll give it a go.
Top Ten (no particular order):
Planescape: Torment Warcraft III StarCraft Goldeneye Legend of Zelda (SN, forget what it was called) Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time Final Fantasy III The Sims Diablo Mortal Kombat II
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
1 being the best, 10 not the best(but still good)
1. Half-Life(all mods) 2. Medal of Honor(PC beats the PS2 version easily!) 3. Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask(tie) 4. WarCraft III 5. Diablo II w/expansion 6. StarCraft w/expansion 7. Emperor: Battle for Dune 8. Command & Conquer Red Alert w/Aftermath 9. WarCraft II w/expansion 10. Sim City 3000
Posted by Hegemon_Locke (Member # 4695) on :
I know narrativium, but you have to respect that FF VII and FF VIII are pretty good games. That's also why there close to the bottom of my list, or in this case the top.
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
quote: I know narrativium, but you have to respect that FF VII and FF VIII are pretty good games.
No, I don't have to. I thought they were awful. (jk on the smart-aleckness but not kidding when I said they were awful)
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
I admit that I enjoyed VII. It wouldn't go on a list of my favorite games, but I did enjoy it.
However, I tried getting through FFVIII twice, and lost interest about halfway through both times.
Posted by Hegemon_Locke (Member # 4695) on :
Really Nick, you thought they were that bad. FF VII was a revolutionary step forward for the RPG genre. VIII was the first Final Fantasy VIII was the first Final Fantasy and RPG so it's kinda stuck. I know the story's a bit melodramatic but i like that.
Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :
Final Fantasy III (VI), is the best game ever.
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
1. Final Fantasy VII 2. Myst 3. Sim City 3000 4. Riven 5. Sonic the Hedgehog 6. Tetris 7. Mario Kart 64 8. Tetris 9. Super Mario Bros. 10. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
[ April 03, 2003, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: Human ]
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
No, FFVII was a logical step forward in the RPG genre. New platform, new capabilities, new gameplay style. If Square didn't do it, somebody else would've.
The game was plagued by a general lack of coherent plot, inconsistent character designs, and no unified world map (it seemed like a patchwork of several different worlds). The visuals were good, but not great.
Besides, the gameplay mechanics, for the most part, were similar to previous Final Fantasy games.
That said, I must repeat that I did find the game fun. However, I also though Half Baked was hilarious, and I don't consider that High Art either.
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
Final Fantasy VII rocked because: A) The characters were actually memorable. B) The music was awesome. C) It had the best magic system. D) It also had the best, most controversial ending I've ever seen.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
My list (ever changing) in no particular order:
Final Fantasy IV Final Fantasy VI Diablo II with LOD Starcraft Wing Commander: Privateer Quake 2 Unreal Tournament Morrowind Red Storm Rising M1 Tank Platoon (the first one!)
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
I am always stunned when I see people refer to the Final Fantasy games as RPG's. Clearly, they are not anything remotely resembling an RPG. Only someone who grew up on Nintendo and it's competitors thinks of them this way.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Oh, and FFIV is the best one ever. Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
Diablo II, that's an RPG worth talking about. Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
I'monna stop derailling this thread now.
Here's my list (not really in order, 'cause I like different games for different reasons):
Riven FFVI Golden Sun Crazy Taxi Chrono Trigger Chrono Cross Deus Ex Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis The Marathon Trilogy Starship Titanic
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
What's your definition of an RPG Slash?
Final Fantasy II and III meet just about any I can think of. Is it because of the party system where you don't control any one particular character? They were amazing games, whatever they were. I only played FFVII as a demo, and I thought it was pretty crummy. The powerful attacks took literally a whole minute to pull off. After the third water wave practically FMV spell I pretty much threw it away with disgust. Was there some way to turn it off (or speed it up)?
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
I believe you could turn off the animation.
And the demo sucked. It was just battling...the story is what made it great, not the battles.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It's not a real RPG because you don't actually play a ROLE. Computer-based RPGs -- with very few exceptions, like Planescape: Torment or the Baldur's Gate series -- are actually tactical combat games.
The definition of a RPG to a computer-gamer -- levels, experience, customizable skills, and so forth -- misses the whole point of what a real RPG is supposed to be.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
But Tom, does it have to be pinpointed to one particular role? Final Fantasy III had several different sections in which one character would be the primary focus of the story, becoming the role character for you to represent. Games like Baldur's Gate and Torment were very similar to the party system, with the only difference being that you couldn't remove the first character from the party. Is that little difference such a big determiner in classifying a game?
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
You know, BattleTech and Warhammer were also referred to as RPGs (I believe they even said so on the box). But I guess the purists out there would argue with that as well.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Slash's point is that the "role" is no more "played" in a game like FFIII than it is in, say, Half-Life. You're run on a rail through a long narrative story, with almost no actual options beyond the superficial ways in which you upgrade your character or opt out of side quests. You're not PLAYING the role; you're spectating the role, and playing the combat.
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
Favorite Game: SimCity (Any version) Game I wish I had: Command and Conquer, Generals Nice, fun game: Wetspot 1,2
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
Tom, under your definition, Deus Ex would count as an RPG, and indeed some people have classified it as such.
What are your thoughts on this?
[ April 03, 2003, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: narrativium ]
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
Deus Ex comes as close to an RPG as any first person game ever I think.
But Tom is right. Following the scripted path through the game and customizing your skills does not an RPG make. You need to be able to decide WHO YOU REALLY ARE for a game to be an RPG. In Baldur's gate I could be an evil assassin, a noble paladin, or a neutral ranger. And those choices mattered. They affected the game play in meaningful ways.
That's what an RPG is.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I see you guys' distinction now.
You're right, that really does rule out most of the video game RPGs.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
My all-time top ten games, in no particular order:
X-Com Starcraft Final Fantasy 3 (as marketed in the US) Wing Commander 3 Zork Half-Life Descent: Freespace Mario Kart 64 Contra The Legend of Zelda
Not necessarily the games I have the most fun with today, but ones that made an impact on me. I guess I would also want to tack on Legend of the Red Dragon as 11th.
[ April 03, 2003, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: saxon75 ]
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
Okay, FFVII isn't a true RPG game. More like action/adventure. But what, besides D&D based games, are other kinds of RPG games?
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
Arcanum came pretty close, you could be almost anything you wanted to be and still beat that game.
The fallout games had some pretty good rpg elements.
Of course baldur's gate 2 and planescape were probably the two best I've ever played.
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
I think that your definition of role-playing is too narrow. Just because you don't get to choose who the character is doesn't mean you're not playing a role. Actors don't name their characters or decide what they say, only how they say it. It's still called "playing a role," and there's still a lot of leeway in how a particular actor interprets a particular part.
So, just because something is scripted means it's not role-playing?
(I agree that most console RPGs still push the boundaries of this definition. Games like the Final Fantasy series are more like interactive stories.)
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
The term role in acting and the term role in RPG have very different meanings. Most often, role in RPG means you get to select and live your role. RPG at it's worst is scripted like a movie. At it's best, it's free form like a paper and dice game. Most console games fall very close to the scripted side of the scale. Very few games venture over to the paper and dice side, but they are invariably the best and most fun games to play.
I hate when the game designers idea of what I should be doing is my only choice.
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
I think a good example of a non-d&d RPG is Morrowind. I mean, it's almost totally freeform, the character choice is all yours, you can win the game with all of them.
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
My problem with Morrowind was in character interaction. No one had a personality. Most convo choices were cookie cutter. It was free form character type development, but it had no soul. I got tired of it fast.
But it was beautiful while I was interested. Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
*grins* Oh, I don't much care for it...it's too dark, too hard, and TOO open-ended. But yes, it's an amazing game!
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Having played both FF3 and FF7* as well as BG1, BG2, and some of PS:T, I'm definitely going to have to go with Slash and Tom on this one. Like anime, I think it's a cultural thing.
My favourites, in roughly chronological order:
Dark Castle Super MarioKart Realmz Syndicate Marathon 2 Goldeneye Myth II Baldur's Gate WarCraft III Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime is one of those rare titles which doesn't lose anything by not having an intricate story. In fact, an RPG-class story would probably detract from Prime's atmospheric immersiveness. I've never been much for most console games, but I bought my first console just for Prime. Wow.
WarCraft III goes without saying - I'm an RTS junkie
*Though I'll admit to getting to the last battle in each and then never finishing either.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
Wow, Dark Castle! How old school is that? Right on!
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Wow, someone else who knows Dark Castle!
Actually, a few of Ambrosia's shareware titles should be on that list too. Escape Velocity and Aperion in particular. Not sure what they'd replace, but they both have to be on the list. EV especially - and PC users, look out, Escape Velocity: Nova is coming out for the PC sometime this year (it's currently in Beta). Damn, I love EV games.
Edit: Fixed italics.
Edit 2: "Too dark," Human?!? I wasn't aware that there was such a thing... but then, I like my games "dark" in many cases. Eternal Darkness was awesome even though it scared the crap out of me...
[ April 03, 2003, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: twinky ]
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
Dark Castle was one of the first games I played on a computer, rather than a console. Gosh I think I was in 4th or 5th grade when I started playing it on my aunt's Mac Plus. I haven't thought about that game in forever, thanks for reminding me!
Gosh, what other games did I love back then that I haven't thought of in a long time?
Castlevania, Out of This World, Commander Keen, Star Control 2, Oo-topos, Solar Winds... The list goes on and on. Wow, what a rush of nostalgia.
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
Wow. I actually re-read this thread again. We really are a bunch of geeks aren't we? I feel so enlightened to now that I have said that. Is there a "geeks anonymous" support group?
[ April 03, 2003, 07:54 PM: Message edited by: Nick ]
Posted by Geoffrey Card (Member # 1062) on :
My top games (as of right now):
Fallout Fallout 2 Grand Theft Auto 3 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Battlefield 1942 Freelancer Morrowind Command & Conquer: Generals Civilization III Halo
My most anticipated games:
Fable Star Wars: KotOR Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader Deus Ex: Invisible War
Posted by Geoffrey Card (Member # 1062) on :
Crap, left Deus Ex off my original list, and it's my all-time favorite! I'm clearly driven to distraction by this flu ...
Posted by Geoffrey Card (Member # 1062) on :
So, Hegemon, what is it that makes someone like extremely Japanese games? I can't get into them nearly as much as I can American and European games. Am I just on the wrong wavelength?
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
Geoff, how could you! GTA again? (Did I mention how much I hate GTA?)
I realized I left MarioKart off. Can't forget that one.
And as for anticipated games:
Golden Sun: The Lost Age Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Crazy Taxi (GBA) Jet Grind Radio (GBA) Deus Ex: Invisible War
[ April 03, 2003, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: narrativium ]
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
As for true RPGs, I think the only type of video game that fits the definition is Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games, or MMORPGs. In all of the ones I've seen, you select your character type, create basic stats, and go out into the world and develop your character.
I've never been able to get into these games. They take too much time and effort to truly enjoy, and it would take away time from Hatquack.
Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :
Just some of the incredible things the crytek engine does.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
How can anyone hate GTA3? It's an incredible accomplishment and a landmark game design, regardless of how you feel about the game's actual content...
I used to play Dark Castle on my parents' old 512k Mac. It didn't even have a hard drive...
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
It's easy to hate GTA3. I feel the game has good technology. It had a landmark design in it's time, but I still hate the game. Simple Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
#DIV/0!
[ April 03, 2003, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: twinky ]
Posted by Paercival (Member # 1408) on :
Geoff, you aren't anticipating Star wars galaxies? My suitemates and I have been oh so patient. We are hoping to get into the expanding beta III which just started.
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
Fitz, I doubt it. You could probably beat me in Battle Mode, but in the racing, I was king! I knew all the tricks and lines.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Hmmmm... I'm not really anticipating much these days. The Frozen Throne, I guess, but I'm not sure that my iMac will have the ponies for it. If the system requiremetns increase, I'll probably be screwed (I'm below the minimum requirements for vanilla War3, but I play anyway because I love the game)...
I'd love Metroid Prime 2 (having finished the game with 100% items found, the über-ending leaves you begging for a sequel), but I'm sure it's at least a year off.
Posted by slacker (Member # 2559) on :
Hmm...my top 10 games would have to be (in no order because I keep playing them over and over again):
Sam N Max: Hit the road HL: Counter-Strike (beta 5 or 6) Age of Kings: The Conquerors UT Terminal Velocity Doom/Quake Neverwinter Nights Chrono Trigger (got it on my emulator list) Mario Kart (any version) Simcity (any version - as long as it's not classic)
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
Sam and Max! Now there's a classic. I totally forgot about that one. Now I'll have to dig it out and play it.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
In no particular order:
-Xenogears (ostensibly an RPG, but Tom and Slash are right, it's really an adventure game using RPG mechanics) -Grim Fandango -Asteroids -Star Wars (80s vector graphics arcade version) -Mouse Trap (Best Pac-Man knockoff ever, especially cool on the ColecoVision) -Wolfenstein (the 2 2D ones, and the 3d one) -Pirates! -SimCity 2000 -Star Control 2 -Ultima IV
Honorable Mentions: -Adventure Construction Set -The Bard's Tale -Warlords 2 -Bionic Commando -Pitfall (2)
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
As for MMORPGs, UO will forever be the pinnacle; at least the first year of it, PKs and all.
I'm tempted to try out Shadowbane, but you really need a group/guild. If some jatraqueros are interested in a casual guild, that would be cool (I can't play more than casually anyway).
-Bok
Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :
Human, I guess we'll never know. But I also wasn't really a fan of the battle mode. I also know a bunch of tricks, but I don't know if I know them all. There's the one in the first race of the the star cup, where you jump over that hill right after the startline, and another one on rainbow road.
I played that game non-stop for 2 years, and I still play it once in a while. Great game.
Posted by Geoffrey Card (Member # 1062) on :
Paercival, I didn't say those were the ONLY games I was anticipating. I think Galaxies sounds very good, but it looks like they're going through development hell right now, and I'm really not sure how it's going to end up once it goes through the wringer
As for GTA, poo on all you naysayers. I wish there were more games in the world like GTA.
Posted by Geoffrey Card (Member # 1062) on :
Bokonon, you had ACS?! That was THE game of my childhood! I didn't know anyone else even played it!
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
Geoff, one of the things that makes GTA the game it is is its uniqueness. How many crappy MYST clones were there back in the mid-90's?
Posted by Khavanon (Member # 929) on :
Khav's video game history:
My first love was probably SeaQuest for the Atari. It was so simple it was stupid. But I got a high score that was double the requirement to get into the exclusive club. (Heh)
Any Megaman and Mario game for the original NES was fun for me. I didn't like them on any other platform. Not that the Megaman games were any different. They just didn't evolve at all. The Mario games totally departed from view. I also had a love for the original Zelda. Tecmo Bowl and Punchout were my only sports loves.
I got into F-Zero and the Street Fighter series when the Super N came out. Uniracers was also a heap of fun, but nobody ever played it. I later played Chrono Trigger, FFII & III, Secret of Mana, Super Metroid, Mortal Kombat, and Killer Instinct regularly.
On the PC I was into Dune 2, Alien Legacy, Tie Fighter, X-Wing, Space Quest (any), King's Quest (any), Starcon 2, and Day of the Tentacle at the time.
For the Play Station: FFVII, Xenogears, Puzzle Fighter, Tekken (any), Metal Gear Solid and Soul Reaver.
For the Dreamcast: Just Soul Calibur
For the PS2: Xenosaga, FFX, Tony Hawk Pro Skater (any), GTA (any), and continuations of some previous titles.
New for the PC: Tribes, Asheron's Call, Starcraft, MTG (not the online one) and Counterstrike.
I'm sure I missed a lot of them.
(edit): there's a lot of puzzle games and puzzle RPG's I'm leaving out.
[ April 04, 2003, 12:48 AM: Message edited by: Khavanon ]
Posted by Geoffrey Card (Member # 1062) on :
MYST clones are a bad example, because they're based on a game that sucked.
We wouldn't have Warcraft III or C&C Generals today if people hadn't been willing to take the model of early games like Dune 2000 and Powermonger and build upon them. Those first RTSes were innovative and unique in their day. But the recent, more refined ones are much, much better.
I think that it would be a very good thing if designers learned from the open-ended game structure of GTA and applied it to other projects. They wouldn't need to be "GTA clones" to build on its foundation.
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
Heh...I jumped from Berserk, for my 2600, to Tetris on NES to...Worms (the greatest game, ever) and Starcraft, with no addictions in between.
[edit: good to see Geoff back and keeping us up-to-date in the video game world]
[ April 04, 2003, 03:10 AM: Message edited by: Frisco ]
Posted by Khavanon (Member # 929) on :
GTA really did have an innovation that I'd been waiting for. I know it's fun to run around and wreak havoc, but there's so much to it other than that. It reminds me of Morrowind, only smaller. Hopefully developers are looking into that.
(edit): Morrowind and Worms are a couple I forgot to mention.
[ April 04, 2003, 03:15 AM: Message edited by: Khavanon ]
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
You know, I don't think the nifty technological innovations in GTA are ANY excuse for a game that rewards its' players for using prostitutes, beating and killing prostitutes, and killing police officers for attempting to impede criminals.
And I agree with Slash - RPG's are entirely different, not only in character development from scratch, but in players' interactions with each other, and innovative methods of meeting the DM's changing storylines - Human brains can infinitely improvise - a program is limited.
*chuckles - remembering her dad's absolute frustration once he developed quick enough reflexes to beat all 10 levels of Atari PacMan.*
Posted by Godric (Member # 4587) on :
Top 10 video game favorites of Godric:
10. Final Fantasy IX (PS1) 9. F1 ROC (SNES) 8. Icewind Dale (PC) 7. Icewind Dale II (PC) 6. Baldur's Gate series (PC) 5. Tetris (NES, Phillips CDI) 4. Final Fantasy III (SNES) 3. Dragon Warrior II (NES) 2. Final Fantasy II (SNES) 1. Age of Empires (PC)
[ April 04, 2003, 08:18 AM: Message edited by: Godric ]
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Mad props to Bok for mentioning Bionic Commando. That was the first NES game I ever bought, and I still play it today.
Ah, I see slacker is a CS snob. I've recently started playing again, but I'm curious about the new version coming out.
[ April 04, 2003, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: TheTick ]
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Actually Geoff, my best friend since 2nd grade had it, and we'd work together, playing the Ultima knockoffs that ACS created. Those 56 minute creation times for random games were frustrating though. You're the only other person, aside from my friends I grew up with, who has heard of it!
The games I listed were ones I believe "completed a thought". They are all pinnacles of plot and gameplay within their genre (not the only pinnacles, of course). With a little bias toward childhood nostalgia.
-- So I guess no one is up for a Shadowbane guild?
-Bok
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
If I see one more person mention Diablo or Diablo 2 I think I'm going to claw out my eyes. What a horrible, horrible game. Could it be more boring and mind numbing? Is that possible? Although, I suppose on the plus side you can get the "Diablo feel" wherever you go. Just unplug your mouse and click it all day! Wherever you go! Diablo in the car *click click* "It's green you jackass!" *clickclickclick* Diablo at work "And so you see *clickclickclick* your investment will *clickclick* triple over the next five years! *clickclickclickclickclickclick* Diablo during sex. Ummm... you're probably better to use your imaginations on that one. (*clickclickclickclick*)
Pirates! I remember that game! I remember when I had mono in high school I sat around playing it all the time. I still boot it up every now and again. Save your long lost sister, father, mother, etc. What a great concept I played adventure games to death too. So some sort of Kings Quest/Space Quest/Monkey Island game belongs on my list. I was a big fan of Thief. Not so much Thief 2, it was too rushed and wound up feeling like the same game. But I'm eager to see what Thief 3 has to offer. And, of course, Deus Ex 2. All the Craft games. I always enjoyed them more than the C&C iterations. The first 2 Myth games deserve some sort of a mention. *clickclickclickclick* The original Wolfenstein! I owned all 6 episodes and all 3 SoD episodes I definitely played them more than Quake. I had friends who painstakingly graphed all the levels and marked in all the secret doors. Ah, the good old days. Baldur's Gate, Mario Kart, Half-Life. All good. I don't care for console RPGs, I get bored pretty quickly. FF games eventually drive me bonkers. Whoever came up with the random battle idea should be dragged out into the street and shot. Of course, the game that started it all for me, Commander Keen! Go Apogee go! I still have all 6 episodes on my computer somewhere. Sweet sweet nostalgia.
My... I'm rambling.
/end ramble *click*
Posted by solo (Member # 3148) on :
The two best games ever are Bubble Bobble and Ms. Pacman. The arcade versions.
Other than that, some favourites of mine are:
Atari: Jungle Hunt,Adventure
Apple II: Hard Hat Mack, Conan, Castle Wolfenstein, Beyond Castle Wolfenstein, Karateka
NES: Super Mario Bros 1 & 3, RC Pro AM, Final Fantasy, Dragon Warrior, Crystalis, Destiny of an Emperor, Megaman 1 to 6 (i think were all on nes), Castlevania 2 & 3, Zelda 1 & 2, Metroid, Kid Icarus, Rygar, Contra, Bionic Commando, Maniac Mansion, River City Ransom
Super Nintendo: Super Mario World, Mario Kart, Final Fantasy 2 & 3, Astyanax, Secret of Mana, Super Metroid, Zelda: A Link To The Past, Crono Trigger, Castlevania 4, Super Soccer, Super Street Fighter II Turbo Extra Special Fantabulous Edition
Nintendo 64: Mario Kart 64, Zelda: The Ocarina Of Time, Goldeneye multiplayer
Playstation: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy 7-9, Tony Hawk 2, Metal Gear Solid & VR Missions, Tetris, Parasite Eve, Final Fantasy Tactics, Tekken games
PC: X-Com, Warcraft II, Ultima IV
I know the PC listings are hardly up to current games but I just bought a new machine, so I am wanting to play some of the following: Icewind Dale 1 & 2, Baldurs Gate 1 & 2, Diablo 1 & 2, Neverwinter Nights, Splinter Cell, Warcraft III and any others recommended.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Oooooh, I want Splinter Cell!
Diablo II with LOD is one of the best multiplayer experiences around. Crafting different characters for various playing styles (and getting cool stuff for them!) is a blast, IMNSHO. Sure, you can bludgeon you're way through in a click fest, but there are more strategic ways of playing. My friends and I just started up again, we're gonna start new characters at the same time and kick some evil a$$.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Who could ever forget about Bolo?
What an awesome game.
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
Bokonon and Geoff:
I also defeated the mighty dragon Yam on the banks of the Euphrates, then met the ancient Gilgamesh. When my adventure was completed, I too created my own worlds, not in six days, but in 56 minutes with the touch of a button.
Should we create an ACS club?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You know, I remember being THRILLED by ACS, but rather disgruntled by the text length limits. Same thing goes for the Bard's Tale Construction Set.
[ April 04, 2003, 12:28 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
Couldn't you get around that by just stacking text boxes? I seem to remember that was the solution.
Posted by popatr (Member # 1334) on :
I have to agree with everyone who places FF3/6 above 7 and 8. I even place it above 9 and 10.
FF3/6 makes me happy. The story made sense. The charachters made sense. Whereas 7-10 tried to cool you out, 3/6 was solid from the ground up.
3/6 had an incredible soundtrack, including the very innovative "dancing mad". If only it was orchestrated. Sigh.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
Gosh it makes me happy that other people out there appreciate Starcon 2. I wasted so many hours destroying my friends in the head-to-head mode.
Star Wars the arcade game was one of my favorites for the longest time when I was a kid.
When I was in college several of my friends and I got into an 8-bit gaming kick for a while. It got to the point where we would keep Contra on 24 hours a day to see how many times we could beat it without having to restart, then how many times without ever dying, and finally, how many times without dying and without any powerups.
There was also a point where we were trying to beat Legend of Zelda in under 1 hour. Not sure if anyone ever actually got there, but I know several got close.
Some other games that took up a lot of my time:
Atari: Joust, Solaris NES: River City Ransom, Rad Racer, Rygar, Kid Icarus, Castlevania 2 SNES: Rock n Roll Racing
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Dude I was just about to post River City Ransom and Super Dodge Ball!
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
Yeah Super Dodge Ball! I remember playing a version of the on the Super Famicom back when, before it came out for SNES.
Posted by Khavanon (Member # 929) on :
Ahh!!! I loved River City Ransom. It was a rediculously simple and stupid game, and it was fun. (Also points to Thief and says, yes sah!)
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
popatr - go here and scroll down to the end of the article.
Posted by popatr (Member # 1334) on :
That's cool.
But is it a sure thing that it will be orchestrated and not just recorded straight from the game?
I hope that they don't interpret the song very much.
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
I found the listing on Digicube's website. It seems they're hard rock remixes of the originals.
Bubble Bobble rules too. Should go on my honorable mention list.
Mouse Trap == Pac-Man, only awesomer
Oh, and the original Wolfenstein was the old Apple/C-64 2D game Castle Wolfenstein. Wolf-3d was the 3rd game in the series.
-Bok
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
I'm listening to the music from FFIV/FFIIUS right now. Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
Oh, yeah? Well I'm listening to FFVI - Grand Finale right now.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
FF4 - Boss Battle Theme.
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
i can't pick a singal favorit so i'll just list 10 of my favorites (even though there are more than 10):
dragon's view-SNES 4 player mode on Zelda:ALTTP-GBA Advance wars-GBA Goldeneye-N64 phantasy star online-GC super monkey ball-GC Animal Crossing-GC Gauntlet Legends:DL-GC Starcraft-PC Lords of the realm-PC
Posted by jehovoid (Member # 2014) on :
Pong.
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
Somebody had to say it. . .
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
*bump* to say I just got into the Planetside beta test...I've been reading some of the info on the site, this looks pretty sweet. Anyone else going to give this a try?
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I recently started playing Legend of Zelda, Windwaker. At first I was really dissapointed, but its gotten to be really good. It doesn't really get moving until a few hours in, but its well worth the wait. A worthy addition to the Zelda franchise.
Posted by Gottmorder (Member # 5039) on :
In no particular order...
1.Freespace series-PC 2. Xenogears-PS 3. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night-PS 4. Medal of Honor: Allied Assault-PC 5. Final Fantasy VI-SNES 6. Final Fantasty Tactics-PS 7. Chrono Trigger-SNES 8. Starcraft-PC 9. Warcraft-PC 10. Homeworld-PC
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Posted by Thalia (Member # 3891) on :
Games I have known and loved (including ones I loved at age 5, so deal with it)
Cyclons (my very first video game) Burgertime (made me laugh) Save New York Tetris Space Quest Legend of Zelda Super Mario Kart Myst (drove me bananas) Age of Empires Age of Conquerors
It sounds like I need to be... ahem... a LOT more sophisticated when it comes to gaming, but I am the addictive type and I don't have time to take on a gaming obsession!
Thalia
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Tick, check out player2player.net... They are admittedly jaded, but so far the Planetside reviews have been lukewarm. Apparently they haven't noticed any of the problems WWIIOL had. Lots of pointless base-swapping.
-Bok
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
I might point out, that I am playing Shadowbane these days, and it's pretty fun. Group oriented, balanced classes (mostly), PvP (which I see as a positive).
-Bok
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
It's free (for now) and I like FPS's, so I'll give it a shot. If I paid for anything, right now, it would be Shadowbane or DAOC (a lot of my buddies at the LAN Center I play at are into DAOC).
Posted by Geoffrey Card (Member # 1062) on :
Is Shadowbane worth the monthly cost?
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
Golden Sun- The Lost Age comes out this week. Unfortunately, I'm spending my money on Miyazaki DVDs. . .
Posted by Geoffrey Card (Member # 1062) on :
I haven't tried it out or anything, but I find it strangely attractive ...
Geez, how could I forget about Fallout? I mean, how many other post apocalyptic RPGs are there?
[ April 14, 2003, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: Gottmorder ]
Posted by slacker (Member # 2559) on :
quote:Ah, I see slacker is a CS snob.
Pfft! I don't think I'm that much of a CS snob, I just miss the old days of CS when the colt had a sniper rifle (they STILL have yet to change the model), and you could jump to your heart's content (no, not bunny hopping).
I have to admit, I've started playing it again, and can honestly say that I've lost alot of skill, but I can still more than hold my own most of the time (unless I'm really outnumbered).
Anyone up for a round of CS? LMK what your name is and what server. I'm usually on under [TPE]Ghost (even though our clan is long dead alot of people know me by that name), or by xenos.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Gottmorder: Fallout, Fallout 2, and the original, Wasteland
Geoff: I'll let you know at the end of the month. Right now, my Radeon 9700 Pro is choking on it, and I am tempted to stick my old Geforce2 in there until it's fixed (it's a driver issue with the radeon, causes hard lockups within 5 minutes... Some are playing okay).
I like the group-oriented nature of it; when you group, everyone one gets the full amount for killing a mob. You can go through the first 20-30 levels in a couple weekends (or a few weeks, for a casual like me). From the boards, it appears there aren't any grossly overpowered classes, which bodes well for PvP. Now, if I could just group up with some pals... Did I mention we can build full cities?
Tick, I don't know how FPS it is, from the reviews. Let us know how it goes?
-Bok
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
I got on Planetside really quick last night...looks like they have the right ideas. I love the instant action feature. One thing I always noticed with other MMOG's I tried was the time it took to get somewhere with some action. I jumped to a base that was under attack, got killed once, respawned, and started doing some damage. I noticed that the enemy was being smart, using combined arms and numbers to try and overwhelm us. I started to unload a new clip into some more bad guys (after I figured out how to reload ), and it promptly crashed. However, it is a beta, and I see great potential here...
slacker, I'm down for CS, when I happen to have computer time. I'm getting pretty good in a LAN environment, this Sunday I played for hours, and was actually getting more kills than deaths (even led my team to victory a few times!). Home is a different story, as I only have HL installed on my laptop. I'll try and get it on my desktop so I have access to a mouse. If I play at home, it'll probably be on WNY Server (64.8.74.205:27016) if anywhere. Usual name is TheTick or Starkiller.
[ April 15, 2003, 03:31 PM: Message edited by: TheTick ]
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Planetside, the second encounter.
Okay, I log in again, armed with the knowledge gleaned from the online manual. My Terran soldier upgrades to heavier armor, grabs a chaingun, and goes for instant action again. I'm dropped near a biolab on a continent that's just been hacked by the enemy. I hack it back, and a couple others join me to guard it. We wait the 15min timer, laying the smack down on a few guys trying to stop our hack. It was only a few, though, which illustrates something the devs need to fix. You only get points for hacking something, not for stopping someone else's hack. It's more advantageous (experience point wise) to wait for the enemy's hack to finish and then hack it back than it is just stop 'em, as a role player would. It's not a big thing, and so far I'm having fun. Can't wait to log in again.
Oh, and if anyone wants to try it out, post here. I can get you in to the open beta.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
I summon the vast powers of thread resurrection!
Ahem.
I just got the 10 day trial of Shadowbane, and if anyone else is playing, what server would you recommend?
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Soldat Super Smash Bros. Soul Calibur Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II Chrono Trigger Final Fantasy VII Sonic and Knuckles/Sonic 3 hybrid Starcraft Unreal Tournament Beneath a Steel Sky
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