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Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
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July 4, 2003 | "Slander" is defined in Bouvier's Law Dictionary as "a false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed." The venerable American legal lexicon goes on to note that such defamatory words are sometimes "actionable in themselves, without proof of special damages," particularly when they impute "guilt of some offence for which the party, if guilty, might be indicted and punished by the criminal courts; as to call a person a 'traitor.'"

So how appropriate it is that in the rapidly growing Ann Coulter bibliography, last year's bestselling "Slander" is now followed by "Treason," her new catalog of defamation against every liberal and every Democrat -- indeed, every American who has dared to disagree with her or her spirit guide, Joe McCarthy -- as "traitors." And like a criminal who subconsciously wants to be caught, Coulter seems compelled to reveal at last her true role model. (Some of us had figured this out already.)


Picture of Ann Coulter sitting with Joe McCarthy. Caption: Has she no shame? Of course not, and now we know why: In her new book "Treason," Ann Coulter reveals that her role model is Joe McCarthy. And her grasp of facts is even worse than her judgment..

My Question, has anyone read the full article and does she really say that in the book?
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Nevermind. I got a day pass! [Cool]
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Yeah, that's pretty much what she says. It's pretty revolting, and I've seen numerous good rebuttals of her assertions, which are usually slim on facts and high on rhetoric.
 
Posted by WheatPuppet (Member # 5142) on :
 
The rebuttals or her arguments?

I always thought that slander had to be knowingly defaming someone for some sort of personal gain.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
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"Liberals spent most of the war on terrorism in a funk because they didn't have enough grist for the antiwar mill. They nearly went stark raving mad at having to mouth patriotic platitudes while burning with a desire to aid the enemy."
[Eek!]

Man, three pages of that. I never want a book review like that! Good thing I don't write, I suppose. [Wink]
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Even conservatives are distancing themselves from Coulter, now. David Horowitz wrote a (for him) resounding condemnation of Treason.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
I had no idea. I was at Wil Wheaton.com today and saw this.

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I've been a subscriber for over a year, and I usually grab the newest edition when they update it around 9 p.m. my time. Last night, I was catching up on the issues I missed while I was out of town . . . when I scrolled down to "books," I was stunned to read

Wil Wheaton's stories and more in this week's bestselling books, courtesy of Powells.com

Bestselling?! Wil Wheaton?! What?!! Having a bestselling book is awesome enough . . . but making the front page of Salon with it is -- I don't even know what to say.


When I went to check it out, I noticed the McCarthy thing, which intrigued me. . . never did get back to Wil. [Wink]
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
He has a bestselling book??
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
I know!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974116009/qid=1061433918/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-0347384-6063879
 
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
 
I think her books just balance out Stupid White Men. I haven't read any of her books, and have only listened to a few minutes of Stupid White Men on tape. But they seem to be of the same league of literature. At least, they're being advertised in the same way, and his rants seem to match her rants almost word for word, only changing in the name of the party.
 
Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :
 
Wow. By following that link I just now discovered that Wil Wheaton was the main kid in 'Stand By Me.' I've seen that movie at least three times, and every episode of ST:TNG at least twice, yet it never registered in my brain that Wheaton played Gordie. Weird.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
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I was at Wil Wheaton.com today
Err, maybe WilWheaton.net?
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Plthbthbthb [Razz]

Whatever. Like I actually type it in or anything. I have it bookmarked of course! (I do that for Ornery, too. It's ornery.org, not com. I never remember that though.

Fitz, for a minute there I thought you meant Geordi LaForge! I was really confused as to how you could think Wil was Geordi! Geordi, Gordie. It's not like I'm dyslexic or anything! [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :
 
What? You mean Wil Wheaton didn't play Geordi LaForge? Next you're going to tell me that LeVar Burton didn't play Data. [Razz]
 
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
 
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Even conservatives are distancing themselves from Coulter, now. David Horowitz wrote a (for him) resounding condemnation of Treason.
Huh, David Horowitz actually denounced a conservative for being further to the right/more unethical than he is? That's pretty funny...
 
Posted by Pod (Member # 941) on :
 
Blacwolve: While i won't defend Michael Moore, i can at least say that he hasn't accused a significant portion of the american public of committing a hanging offense [Wink]

As for coulter's book, there were a whole bunch of copies at a local barnes & nobles, and it of course having an interesting looking title, i opened up the front cover to read the flap, and nearly retched all over it.

The amount of ludicrously unreasonable hate the woman spews is stomach turning.
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Yes; Coulter's position is superficially similar to some published leftists (who are also pretty repulsive), but she's definitely more extreme than them. Her position is not merely that they're all wrong, silly, or deluded, but that everyone too much to the left of her (well, pretty much everyone who disagrees with her) is actively evil and treacherous.

No one on the left with even remotely similar prominence has that view; while they may be vituperative towards many people on the right, it tends to be somewhat specific, and do find some members of the right honorable, decent people. Coulter does not. According to her the entire left is scum.

This is not to say such people don't exist on the left, but they aren't main stream commentators who write national best sellers and are held up as paragons of their ideology. Moore is considered a little whacked by most people on the left, in my experience. Coulter is not considered so by most people on the right, in my experience (those who consider her sane are in only a slight majority, at least, as far as I can tell).

Ann Coulter is a very good writer (though I'm dissappointed at how hackish her latest book is; before she was at least much more thoughtful), and a very good persuader (she is a lawyer). She makes herself sound very reasonable. But then she concludes (for instance) that anyone who opposed McCarthy was not merely doing something wrong (a pretty radical view already), but that opposing MccCarthy was an actively treasonous activity (along with most other things "leftists" do). This is not merely radicalism, or even ranting demagoguery; this is extreme delusional paranoia.
 


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