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Posted by Rhaegar The Fool (Member # 5811) on :
 
In this thread we dost speak only in elde angle. Or old english for those of thee who doth not know the phrase of elde angle. As mine mentors wouldst say, "Partyst Onyst Wayne, Partyst Onst Garth"

For soothe thou must speak anon.

Rhaegar

[ January 12, 2004, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: Rhaegar The Fool ]
 
Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
 
No.
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
[Big Grin] ^
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
The problem, Rhaegar, is that you've clearly never read anything in old english.

Wait... am I taking things too seriously again?

*returns to cave under the bridge*
 
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
Swa mec gelome laðgeteonan
þreatedon þearle. Ic him þenode
deoran sweorde, swa hit gedefe wæs.

<--- Is quoting.

<--- Hopes she didn’t say something dirty.
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
Umm, all I know is middle English...

"Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour..."

How's Chaucer?
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Not too well.




He's dead . . .
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
[ROFL]

Oh, you know what I meant! [Razz]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
[Big Grin] Ok, I'll try again.

From here
quote:
Chaucer is great fun to read for several reasons, among them: (1) he reflects (and helped define) many of the intellectual assumptions of his day, and so helped create the culture which we have in part inherited from him and his contemporaries; (2) he is a delight to read on a sensuous level because of his great sense of verbal play. I know of no other writer who merges as well as Chaucer does a sense of the profound with a sense of play.
But then, from here
quote:
I HATE CHAUCER. I've been focusing my life around his writings lately, and I want him to die (again). I don't know why it matters if the Woman of Bath has red socks or not, who cares?! And the rhyming, oh don't even get me started.
So the reviews seem mixed. [Wink]
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
*glares at rivka*
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
[Taunt] [Wink]
 
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
All I have/have always had/will have is Omnitemporal English.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Rhaegar, part of the problem is that your grammar is TERRIBLE. It's like medieval movie English as interpreted by Bill and Ted. [Smile]
 
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
Wait a minute, wasn't Keanu Reeves in "Much Ado About Nothing"? [Wink]
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
YEAH he was! [Wink]
 
Posted by Koga (Member # 5646) on :
 
There is something mildly strange about the same guy haveing large and even staring rolls in, Bill and Ted, Much Ado About Nothing, Speed, and The Matrix.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
Or old english for those of thee who doth not know the phrase of elde angle.
Dude, I've studied Old English, and I don't know that phrase. It would probably be "ealde anglisc."
quote:
As mine mentors wouldst say, "Partyst Onyst Wayne, Partyst Onst Garth"
In the imperative mood, the -est ending drops off. And it only belongs on second person singular verbs in the present indicative, not on prepositions.
quote:
Swa mec gelome laðgeteonan
þreatedon þearle. Ic him þenode
deoran sweorde, swa hit gedefe wæs.

"Thus often the enemies vigorously pursued me. I extended(?) to them the dear sword, as it was befitting." It's a little rough, but I think it works. No dirty Old English limericks here, dkw. [Smile]

[ January 13, 2004, 12:16 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
<Relieved this isn't a geometry thread>
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Alas! I fear I killed the thread with too much grammar and history. Rest in peace, poor thread.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
No, I killed it, you resurrected it into zombie status, and now I'm plunging a silver spike into its heart. Die, thread.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Well, personally, I was just waiting for you to show up and post something like that Jon Boy. I was delighted with your post, honestly. I've been meaning to start a thread to ask you something about Shetland dialect (although exactly what, I can't quite remember right now). Are you familiar with it?
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Oh, come on. My philological rantings obviously did it in. Your lame attempt at a Papa Moose–ism merely beat an already dead horse. Now the thread is a grotesque parody of life, a tortured being caught between the world of the living and the world of the dead, just like the Witch King of Angmar. And we all know how the Witch King died, right? He was killed by Eowyn, whose name comes from Old English. Coincidence? I think not.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Thanks, Noemon. [Smile] Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with the Shetland dialect. If you remember your question, maybe I can ask my professor tomorrow.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Oh, I remember. I found a list of words from the Shetland dialect the other day, and found them fascinating. You could see how some of them were cognates of their modern Standard English equivalents, and many of them just sounded really cool. There were a couple of words that were defined as being "sea names" for this or that. Specifically, "anklovan, sea-name for fire-tongs", and "voaler, a sea name for the cat". What is meant by "sea name"? Of course, I could probably just google and find out, but if you knew off the top you your head I was going to take the easy way out and just learn it from you.
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
quote:
It's like medieval movie English as interpreted by Bill and Ted.
::laughs::

::writes that one down::
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Nope, google isn't helping. Help me Jon Boy's professor, you're my only hope!
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Yeah, I'm not finding anything out about "sea names."
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
So if you've used your anklovan to pick up the voaler, you might get cited for animal abuse under admiralty law.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
[Laugh] AFR
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I bought an atlas of world languages the other day. When I get home tonight I'll see if it has any information on the Shetland dialect. I suspect that that's a bit too specific to be included in something as general as that atlas though.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Atlas of world languages? *drools*

I just e-mailed my professor. Now we'll see if he knows any more about it than we do.

[ January 13, 2004, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]
 
Posted by drumsntolkein (Member # 6095) on :
 
yeah, uhhh rhaegar i hate to break it to you but there's DEFINITELY a big difference between "old english" and...shall we say "shakespearean english"...if you're so smart maybe you should start an elvish thread? that's probably closer to what you know considering you're basically fluent...
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Is there a thread for guttersnipe English? I think we ought to have a thread for that, too . . .

Or would that be new age English?

Or barely literate English?

Or "I don't care" English?

[Razz]

Can I just stick with St. James? [Blushing]
 
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
 
How about the English Alex uses in "A Clockwork Orange". Do any of my droogs know it?
 
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
 
Oh, and I was told in one of my theater classes that all of Shakespeare was writting in modern English, just with slightly different slang and terminology.
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Yes, Shakespeare is considered modern english.

Chaucer is middle english.

Beowulf is old english.
 
Posted by :Locke (Member # 2255) on :
 
There'll be no more govoreeting in anything but Nadsat, me droogies. Or it's a right horrorshow tolchok in the litsos for you.
 


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