Subtitle: If I Have to Keep Eating My Words, At Least They’re Tasty.
Sixteen years ago my pastor tried to convince me that I should plan to attend seminary after college and go into the professional ministry. I made an impassioned speech about the importance of committed laypeople to the future of the church, and told him I was going to be a mechanical engineer.
Seven years ago, I was forced to admit that, while I still passionately believe in the importance of laypeople in the church, God had other plans for me. I could still support and encourage laypeople in ministry, but I was no longer going to be one of them.
Five years ago I talked with my spiritual director about being intentionally single. At the time I had been not dating (by choice) for five years and I felt like I wanted to make some sort of commitment to the single life. She (a Benedictine Sister) asked, “Why ever would you want to do that?” I replied that I felt like I was fence-sitting, not dating, happy not dating, but not formally committed to it. Like I couldn’t make up my mind, or wasn’t sure that I was happy. Her response was, “So, you’re saying that you don’t want to be open to the possibility of the Spirit of God leading your life in new directions?” To which I replied, “er . . . when you put it that way . . .” and we decided that I would continue to not date and not seek to date, but not close off the possibility, just in case God had other plans.
This week I have been forced to admit that, while I still passionately believe that being single and not dating is a valid choice for many people, I am no longer going to be one of them.
This, of course, happened just a few months after I posted a thread on Hatrack glorying in the pleasure of being single and trying to dispel the myth that one needs to be in a relationship to be happy. (Which I do still believe. Even though I am no longer living proof of it.)
Master of the Universe, I acknowledge your superior grasp of comedic timing. And, um . . . thanks. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*blink*
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Does this mean congratulations are in order?
Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
Well, right now I think I may well be headed in the opposite direction, at least for a while, but I hope God blesses you and any future companions.
Edit: Congratulations, of course.
[ February 29, 2004, 10:43 PM: Message edited by: Danzig ]
Posted by sarahdipity (Member # 3254) on :
what mack said...
I'm actually still puzzling through the reaction of the sister you talked to. How did she know it was right for her to give up dating but not necessarily for you?
Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
Well, a nun is a little different calling than a pastor.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
<-- Dances a little dancy for Dana!
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
So now of course you'll have to tell Hatrack all the ensuing gossip...
I really admire your talent to be happy with what you are given dana - whether it is the single life or a relationship.
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
funny, something similar happened to me a couple years ago. I had been single for quite a while, and when a friend asked me about it, I said that I was very happy being single, and that i didn't believe in love. Two days later, I fell madly in love for the first time in my life, much to the sarcastic delight of the aforementioned friend. I have since decided that it is not a good idea to dare God, and i try to avoid saying such stupid things in the first place....obviously, being human, I am forever doomed to say stupid things... Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
The best evidence of God's sense of humor is the platypus.
Posted by aka (Member # 139) on :
That's great, dkw! Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
<--In a good way!
That's wondeful dkw
Hobbes Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
Cor and I are very happy for you, Dana. Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
Platypi... heeheehee.... That's a testament to my sense of humour as well...
(((dkw))) That's so sweet. And I love how God does that to you. I was totally happy being single until God threw someone at me out of the blue... God's weird like that - as soon as I get comfy, something happens...
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Rivka, I’m not sure what’s in order. I’m feeling a little bit dazed. Ask me in a month or so.
Sarahdipity, she had to make a permanent commitment to celibacy as part of her vocation. I didn’t.
Icarus, thank you. That means a lot to me.
Everyone else, thank you as well. And mack, trust me, this is much funnier than platypi.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm terribly confused. Does this mean you're dating someone? Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Well, hugs are ALWAYS in order. (((((Dana)))))
Now for the real question: Does he know about your Hatrack addiction?
If not, can we tell him? Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
<--wants more information. MUCH more information
And is very happy for Dana of course. Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Nothing like a good haircut, eh?
Edit: Or do I mean First your hair and now your freedom?
It's gotta be the hair, It's gotta be Fantastic Sam's
[ March 01, 2004, 12:26 AM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Dana, I am full of joy for your happiness. Whether single or with a partner, may you find all good things in your life. Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Posted by larisse (Member # 2221) on :
Congrats, dkw. You deserve all the happiness in the world.
Psst... if you add chocolate sauce to those words, they taste even better. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
(((dkw)))
This is the best news I've heard in awhile. I mean, I thought the fact that you were not dating was just wrong somehow... Not that I didn't respect your decision, of course, I have been avoiding the dating thing as well, and for good reason(s). So I understood it intellectually. But not on the spiritual level, if that makes sense.
I hope you will tell us more... when you're ready of course.
IMHO, he is truly a lucky man.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
PS: I'm convinced that after life itself, humor is God's best gift and He uses it more often than most people suspect.
So all that remains to be said is...May God laugh WITH you, not AT you!!!
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
God laughs with the It's Sacrilicous thread...
Posted by Anti-Chris (Member # 4452) on :
It's a good thing God does in fact have a sense of humor. Otherwise, I might be in trouble.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Now, based on our discussions at the last get-together, I have to ask: is he a fellow minister or a parishoner? Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Thank you all, again.
Mac – Yup.
<------ Twitterpated
Rivka – Addiction? What addiction? I can quit ANYTIME I WANT TO! ::hyperventilates at the thought:: Yeah, I think I’ve mentioned Hatrack a few times in conversation.
Tom – nope. I’m following what my dad calls the “100 mile rule” which he invented for his brother, who is also a small town pastor. Which is, if you’re clergy in a small town and want to stay out of trouble, don’t date anyone who lives closer than 100 miles away. Which is kind of a nuisance, really. Thank goodness for e-mail. And cell phones .
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Congratulations, dkw. I had already broken off 2 engagements to 2 different guys and decided that I never wanted to get married when I met Andrew.
This thread reminds me of that old Yiddish proverb, "If you want to give G-d a good laugh, tell him your plans."
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
dkw -- could you use that same argument, please, with a certain guy in MY church who happens to think he has been charged with "the gift of celibacy" and refuses to date.
We are great friends and I would love it if I could date him, but since he has himself convinced that he is supposed to remain celibate (in the manner of Paul), I respect that and never try to move it to the next level. But it is sad that he won't leave his options open to what God could have in mind for him...
Farmgirl
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
So, dkw and a platypus, eh? Who'da thunk it?
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Farmgirl, I don’t think I can. I do believe that celibacy is a gift. I consider myself very lucky to have been given that gift for ten years. During that time, there were people who asked me out, and two who proposed marriage. (One serious, one weird stalker type.) I had no doubts at all about my decision not to date then. But it wasn’t about them – don’t think that his decision is a rejection of you. If he truly is called to celibacy, either for a lifetime or just for now, then there isn’t any way you’re going to be able to “talk him out of it.” Enjoy it – celibate men make wonderful friends.
BtL: o_O
Posted by Lime (Member # 1707) on :
Dana that's awesome! Way to go! I'm really happy for you.
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Congrata Dana!
(And all this time I thought you were waiting for me to become available.)
There is one very lucky man out there.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Dana: Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
Well, first of all, congrats dana
And second: [Almost fiction] God has tried to pull this one on me too lately, but until now I managed to elude Him. Three times. Instead, His love-arrows (I think I'm confounding Him with somebody else, oh well...) hit friends of mine all around me: three couples in a week ! I wonder how much longer I can still evade Him
Anyway, a report just came in: apparently there's been another hit. This time it's not really a friend of mine, but the sister of a friend. I don't know what to think anymore: has He lost His accuracy ? Or is He preparing the big shot and needed some time to practice ?
We'll be back with more of this after the break ! [/Almost fiction] Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
*stands next to Corwin*
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
I'm really happy for you, Dana. I'm happy that you're happy. I'm not really eloquent enough to figure out how best to describe my happiness for you, so instead I'll say it this way: link Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Posted by Vána (Member # 3262) on :
Wow. 100 mile rule. Probably a good rule, but...tough. Very tough.
I'm happy for you, though! Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
100 miles is nothing! You could be in each other's arms inside of an hour if you don't stop at the rest areas.
If person A traveling west at an average speed of 57 mph leaves home at 4:30, and person B traveling East at an average speed of 62 mph leaves home at 4:45, and they meet at 5:27, how far apart are they?
. . . . . . . . . . .. .
ANS: 0 -- they met up, remember!
Congrats again. We're waiting for more details! Is he smart or goofy? Humble or Vain? Does he appreciate you like he should?
What's his favorite ice cream?
[ March 01, 2004, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: Bob_Scopatz ]
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
First, DKW - best luck on the adventure!
I was actually quite settled, single and happy with it (celibate, too - found out early my sexuality is tied to being in a relationship). Had a great life.
Then I met Diane. Everything changed - and fairly quickly.
Having said that, though...
quote:I’m following what my dad calls the “100 mile rule” which he invented for his brother, who is also a small town pastor. Which is, if you’re clergy in a small town and want to stay out of trouble, don’t date anyone who lives closer than 100 miles away. Which is kind of a nuisance, really. Thank goodness for e-mail. And cell phones
*sigh* I probably shouldn't say this, but I have a feeling that the "100 mile rule" was invoked before widespread use of cell phones and email. It may not mean now what it meant at the time. Because now even small towns are connected to the communities around them.
I was safe - Diane lived about 600 miles away. But that's a little extreme.
[ March 01, 2004, 07:45 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
Congratulations! I hope everything goes well for you. Since you chose to date him, he's obviously a wonderful man with many fine qualities. Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
Congrats!!
(On the topic of the 100 mile rule, how far away from the NH-Mass boarder is Montreal Quebec do you think?)
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
'bout five hours.
WHY?
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Hmm. Bob, if I find out his favorite flavor of ice cream, would you pull that thread out of retirement and do a compatibility profile for us?
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I'd just like to announce that dkw has inspired me to start dating as well. I thought about starting my own thread, but I didn't really want to draw that kind of attention. It's just the more that I thought about this thread and how much fun it is to be in love, I decided I really had no good reason not to.
So, Dana, I just want to add a little thank you here for inspiring me to follow your lead.
I guess I'm a little behind in that I can't actually describe our first date or anything, ...yet, but I actually do have someone who seems pretty interested in me. Not sure where this will lead, but I'm pretty hopeful. She at least agreed to go out with me. I've known her awhile...even met her family. They fed me! Until recently, I just thought of her as a friend, and of course, I wasn't thinking of her as anything BUT a friend back when I was still married. But you know, here I am, single. She's single. And we've always admired each other and see eye-to-eye on a lot of issues. So...I'm rambling. It's just that it really does feel good to finally ask someone out, you know...especially when it's someone you respect. I'm not sure I could just ask "anyone," you know...I don't really do the whole dating "thing." My pickup lines are pathetic.
Proof: here are some samples I've actually used:
- Let's get married... - Want to start a family? - Do you own your own home? - How much do you make per annum? - How do you feel about stay-at-home dads?
So, you see, my style isn't likely to work well in the typical singles setting, or in a personal ad. I'm just lucky there are people (women)...(well, one woman)...who can see beyond the lack of finesse to understand that I might actually be fun to be around in a romantic setting.
Sheesh! I didn't mean to ramble... Sorry...
I hope you don't mind my sharing your happiness in this way. I didn't want to take over your thread, but I figured it'd be better to post here than in another mushy thread. Hatrack seems to be brimming over with love these days.
I credit CT...
Or our President's call to protect marriage...
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Ha! Psych! You must've just gotten off the phone with "him!" I was on this marathon phone call then came to Hatrack.
Ha haha....
Oh, anyway, on the icecream profile, I'll do a private one for the two of you, if you'd like. There's a quicker test though...take him to that place with the garlic ice cream that we went to with Ryuko & her mom. If he picks the garlic flavor, you're assured of success!
[ March 02, 2004, 01:33 AM: Message edited by: Bob_Scopatz ]
Posted by Richard Berg (Member # 133) on :
/msg God I love being single
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Careful what you claim out loud Richard. God's in a funny mood this week. You're just asking for trouble.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Congratulations, dkw!
So does this mean God's into reverse psychology?
/msg God Um, you know, I really could do without a bigger paycheck. I really, really, REALLY don't want it.
[ March 02, 2004, 01:41 AM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
God is laughing WITH DA GOAT.
Actually, I think God's sense of humor is always in our favor. Whether we recognize it or not. It's just that he likes to remind us of how little our sense of control really means. On the one hand, that's kind of scary -- especially for control freaks, or people who believe they are the masters of their own destiny...you know.
But he's not like the ancient Olympians...just screwing around with our lives. I think the humor is like "oh...so you hate the Midwest...well, here ya go...you're moving next week." That kind of thing.
I find that I get to experience a whole new adventure when these things happen to me. But I've learned not to sweat it. Just laugh along with Him and hope he doesn't forget that I'm still kind of insecure and in need of a bit of a helping hand whenever I'm adjusting to whatever He's done for me this time.
So, no, I don't think reverse Psychology is what it's all about.
Sorry.
Hope you get the raise.
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
That's awesome, Bob.
I love this thread. Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Congratulations Bob! I’m guessing from your post that you’re in the same giggly, ‘I feel like I’m back in Jr. High’ state that I’m in. Shall we commiserate?
I feel like I’m walking around looking like ---> My friends have started to say, “Why are you . . .Oh. Never mind. I know why you’re smiling.” Sarah is about ready to toss me into a snowbank. I’m going to tell her husband that he needs to do something mushy and romantic, ‘cause she’s getting jealous.
Was it kat who said that her litmus test for friends is whether or not they’d make good Hatrackers? This guy would be a great Hatracker – he’s smart and funny and likes to discuss stuff . . . maybe you’ll all get to meet him at the whatever we're calling it Con in Chicago!
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
quote: I'd just like to announce that dkw has inspired me to start dating as well
Well, Bob, not to be a spoilsport or anything -- but haven't you been divorced LESS than a year? I mean, just because dkw starts dating (she's been single a long time, ya know, and is very secure in herself; knows she doesn't NEED a man) doesn't mean you should jump in the fire as well.
(I think that's what they told me when I got divorced -- "don't date or make any major decisions within the first year when you are emotional." Of course, it has been 13 years now, and I still practice that -- except for the decision part).
Other than that - you can totally ignore me and go do whatever you want because you are a grown man and totally capable of making these hard decisions on your own!
Farmgirl
[ March 02, 2004, 09:44 AM: Message edited by: Farmgirl ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I think Bob and Dana are just dropping subtle hints that they've started dating. j/k
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
quote:But he's not like the ancient Olympians...just screwing around with our lives. I think the humor is like "oh...so you hate the Midwest...well, here ya go...you're moving next week." That kind of thing.
Now we know Bob's real feelings on Texas...
AJ
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
lol @ Tom!
er, not that Dana would not like Bob . . . or that Bob would not like Dana . . or . . . er . . . nevermind
[ March 02, 2004, 10:05 AM: Message edited by: lcarus ]
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
Hey Bob,
I've been thinking about this whole cosmic sense of humor thing...
Considering how you've been closing in on TomD's post count lately, and how much you obsess about it...
Have you thought about what dating and a regular social/romantic life could do to your posting rate?
I have a hunch, though, if you're having any fun at all, you'll be a lot less concerned with your post count and just shrug as TomD pulls farther and farther ahead of you.
[ March 02, 2004, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: sndrake ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I know that I'M in the clear.
...so far.
Can I use reverse psychology on God? He's been messing with me for so long that I need a break.
*polite cough skyward*
Anytime now.
*waits*
[ March 02, 2004, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: mackillian ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
It must be spring.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Tom, subtle hints? I thought we both stated quite clearly that we’ve started dating!
. . . .
Oh wait. You meant dating each other. Never mind, then.
[ March 02, 2004, 10:33 AM: Message edited by: dkw ]
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
All this talk of cosmic humor has me itching to re-read Cat's Cradle. It's definitive guide to this whole topic.
Or as my favorite quote from the book goes: "Peculiar travel suggestions are dancing lessons from god."
-Bok
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Tom,I'm too giddy with anticipation to respond as you deserve.
Farmgirl...you know I thought about that a lot. And it did have me a little bit concerned. But fact is, I've known this woman for awhile and we've become great friends. It just feels right. I can't explain on any intellectual level that I would even credit, so I don't expect anyone else to, but it's like this:
As soon as I decided to ask her out, I felt like it was something I should've done a long time ago. The time we spent not dating each other now seems wasted and I can't get it back!
So, I guess that answers dkw's question. I have gone completely off the deep end about this. As I told my friend -- it feels like that first love feeling. It's something I thought you only get once in life, and here it is. Making me crazy.
Jeez, I shouldn't be writing this on Hatrack. I don't care if SHE sees it (should she ever happen onto this website) because I've already told her. But you all must think I've just gone nuts.
My biggest fear isn't how I feel, though, but that I'll be so wrapped up in this feeling that I'll just scare her or something. I mean, we're both supposedly mature people. What if she REALLY IS mature and looks at this dopey behavior on my part and starts to wonder about my mental state?
But so far, she seems just as unhinged, if I can use that word. She was thinking about me and wondering when the heck I was going to get around to asking... So she's pretty pleased that I finally did.
Look, there's nothing more insufferable than people talking about how in love they are...so I'll try not to bore you all. But there is this:
I had set myself a goal of waiting a full year after the divorce. I did that because, having been through it before, I knew that it had taken me about that long last time to feel non-toxic again. By toxic, I mean that thoughts of betrayal and disappointment would intrude on every conversation, but especially when talking to another woman.
But this time through is much different than last time. First, I wasn't as shocked since I saw it coming and had made my peace with it. So, in effect, I passed through part of the grieving process over the past 2 years. I think Icarus and Cor can attest to this.
The other thing is that I AM mature. I do know my own heart. I've been with it for a long time. And that certainty I felt when I finally decided to ask her out hasn't abated. In fact, it sort of shot up exponentially when I talked to her.
But Farmgirl, I know exactly what you mean. It IS fast. I don't want to slow things down. I don't think I will slow things down. But if I thought I was running the risk of hurting her, I would in a heart beat. I couldn't ever love myself again if I hurt her.
(does that sound sappy?) I could be going overboard, I suppose...but what does one do when things feel this good...and this RIGHT? If you don't take a chance in this kind of situation, when would you? When you're less certain?
I would certainly be more circumspect if it wasn't for the fact that she is feeling the same way. I swear it's like someone slipped something into the TX water supply.
dkw -- I like that word twitterpated. I was going with "smitten" but that sounds so 19th century and inadequte. Quoting Bambi seems far closer to the mark.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
quote: What if she REALLY IS mature and looks at this dopey behavior on my part and starts to wonder about my mental state?
Oh, I don't think you have to worry about that part, at least, Bob. Women love making men feel dopey.
I mean, it's a power trip and all to have that effect on a man!
Farmgirl
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Power trip!
You know, I always distrusted this feeling for exactly that reason, that it was like those dumb romantic movies where the dopey guy chases the girl through a field for no good reason. Oh wait, there was the sex when he finally caught her (usually just implied sex of course). But anyway, I saw that movie and didn't want to live it -- be that dopey guy.
But in this case, I'm actually certain that this isn't just some feminine wile or deliberate tactic on her part. I mean, the woman waited and didn't even HINT that she was thinking of me as dating material. And it wasn't out of pride or anything. She didn't want to push me into something I wasn't ready for.
Actually, I'll have to admit, we have had some serious discussions in the midst of all this addle-brained romance. So, I shouldn't paint such a gauzy-lensed picture of things.
We had to overcome some serious barriers to our dating, not the least of which was my concern over the recency of my divorce.
Heck, FG, I don't even flirt for fear of hurting someone.
But still, I do see your point.
If you knew her, I think you'd agree that her capacity for playing games is completely benign. She plays games, but not with people's affections. By games...I mean that she has fun with life and doesn't have to be serious or goal-oriented all the time.
Anyway, I trust her implicitly. I guess I could see how from the outside one might question that, but I think that anyone who knows her would agree that she's a straight-forward, honest person who isn't really into power trips.
I guess I should shut up before someone demands I write an ode...
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
Bob,
I suspect I speak for at least a few of us when I say:
"Well, so when do we see the ode?"
(Everyone who wants Bob to write an ode raise their hands)
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I think FG was using power trip far more lightheartedly than you took it.
Of course, I can see you wanting excuses to talk about her too...
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
blacwolve...oops. Sorry FG!!! I thought you were dissing my Dulcinea, you know! <errant knight in rusting armor to the rescue!>
Anyway, thanks for clarifying.
An ode to new love:
I wasn't always this far gone it happened when you came along I wasn't happy, that much's true But now I'm just a sap for you.
What is this love that doesn't fade? The dew, a rose, and morning's shade? A shooting star? A rocket's glare? Some phallically symbolic snare?
I wrote this ode to prove the point That my whole mind is out of joint I hope you'll let our true love grow: When you decide, you let me know.
Until then I'll just pine and whimper Like some dog who has distemper. I'll be your slave, your someone who You nightly scrape off of your shoe.
My soul is yours My wit is thine I wrote this ode in record time.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
psst -- blacwolve! Raise your hand.
::raises hand::
I'm enjoying knowing I'm not the only one on the forum who's gone all jello-brained.
Edit: timing, the secret of comedy. No wonder Bob's so funny.
[ March 02, 2004, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: dkw ]
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Congrats Bob!
Hmmm. Looking over description of DKW's guy--including "Would make a great Hatracker" and "Funny and likes to discuss stuff."
Looking at Bob's description of his new love.
Didn't Bob and Dana recently meet at Dana's with a group not long ago? Say, 2/20th or there abouts.
Dana's rule of 100 miles away.
Bob, living in Texas, far more than 100 miles from Dana.
This is better than any Guess the Author Thread.
Dana and Bob, sittin in a tree....
And I'll keep singing that until one of you produces a sweety that is not the other one.
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Not to mention DKW's clue, the title, "God's sense of humor all over this." We all know Bob is God's sense of humor.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Sorry, there is a false assumption in your reasoning.
Bob did not attend the Midwest Hatrack gathering.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Dan, your theory is dented by the ugly fact that I did not go to dkw's Hatrack gathering. I phoned in, but I wasn't there.
Look at the pictures. I'm the phone being passed around. Christy is fondling me in one shot.
I got to lie on the bed with a bevy of beautiful ladies though.
<edit>
Hah! Psych again!
Actually dkw is posting when I post because she's afraid to call me on the phone. She's seen where that phone has been!
[ March 02, 2004, 03:46 PM: Message edited by: Bob_Scopatz ]
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Sooooo?????
I write an ode and nobody comments? What gives?
I thought you all would like it more than this.
[ March 02, 2004, 03:47 PM: Message edited by: Bob_Scopatz ]
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
quote: Some phallically symbolic snare?
Oh my gosh!
Farmgirl
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
I notice you both fault my chain of logic, but do not deny my conclusion.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Thanks Farmgirl. Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
You both reminded me to add rule #17 to my rules of life. "At least once in your life, everyone should fall headlessly, giddilly, stupidly silly, sacharinly sweet and gooey in love."
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Nice rule, Dan!
I've never had that happen to me unfortunately......at least not that I remember... Farmgirl
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Dan,
I think what we said was sufficient.
I didn't want to make Dana feel like I think of her as non-dating material. Nothing could be further from the truth...
But you yourself noted that I'm well over 100 miles away...
Must I come right out and issue a denial, or will you retract your challenge?
Dang, this really is getting to be like Junior High!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
(((Farmgirl)))
I predict it will happen.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Oh come'on Dan!
THINK about what you are implying.
A good Christian, wholesome moral woman like dkw;
matching up with a....a....uh...
well, with a religiously floundering, jokester like Bob?
Really! What were you thinking?
Farmgirl
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Farmgirl, don't cry. Since it hasn't happened yet, that means you have something great to look foward too.
It didn't happen to my wifes grandmother until she was in her 70's.
Bob--No. I won't retract my challenge, because I'm using it to get either of you to introduce us to your new friends. We have to make sure they are good enough for you.
YOu can tell them we approve, but if they hurt either of you, we will hunt them down and burninate all over them.
And this isn't anything like JR High. Say that again and you'll just have to meet me outside after the bell rings. Shh, I'm late for Gym class.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
It does my heart good to see dkw and Bob -- two of the most grounded people I know -- so twitterpated. (Bob, that ode was simply !)
Gives me hope. Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
I just talked to Bob and we've decided:
5 points for Dan Raven.
Tom would have got them if he'd left that stupid "j/k " off his post.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I'll just add my thanks to Farmgirl and Icarus for helping us keep this going. They guessed immediately but in private.
quote:I didn't want to make Dana feel like I think of her as non-dating material. Nothing could be further from the truth...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*weakly* We really need a jaw-drop smiley.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I just want you two to know that I was absolutely certain, but didn't want to actually MAKE you deny it. I was prodding, but not actually poking. In fact, I debated some time about including the "j/k," because it wasn't exactly honest, but left it in because, if pressed, I could point out that they weren't very subtle hints at all. *grin*
[ March 02, 2004, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
Sitting here, reading this, stunned. Grinning.
Feeling life is a little cooler today.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
rivka, that'd be a good one to add. I know I would get a lot of use out of it.
Dana:
I'm off to . It's been a very tiring meeting and Dana's free cell phone minutes don't kick in until past 10:00 pm here.
And we can't seem to hang up the phone.
"no, you hang up." "no, you hang up."
...
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
quote:Feeling life is a little cooler today.
Yeah...that's how I feel too. Thanks!!!
Tom, what the heck, you get 5 points too!
[ March 02, 2004, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Bob_Scopatz ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You know, though, darnit, Bob's likely to pass me even FASTER now that he's fallen for a regular. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Tom, I may pass you, but I will never surpass you.
Tom
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
Tom,
that's the second thing that hit me.
I think your post count supremacy is going to be history.
Posted by Vána (Member # 3262) on :
Seriously? Wow!
Wow!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Now that I'm (somewhat) over my shock, I do recall that when I met dkw a few months back, and she mentioned a recent time she had gotten together with Bob, I had a fleeting thought . . .
. . . which I dismissed. Oops. Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Awww....
You mean the game's all over? And I was having such fun with the secret!
To me it was SO transparent -- I am surprised it took some of you so LONG...since you've known them so much longer than I.
Farmgirl
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
It couldn't happen to two people who deserver it more.
Wether thats a good thing or a bad thing I'll leave up to you.
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
OK, I admit it. Everytime I think of you two young lovers, I start to get all smiley and giggly at my desk.
No pressure, but I hope really really hard that this works out for you two.
"Oh, to be young and in love."
"No my friend. Just to be in love, for when one is in love, one is young."
Posted by Vána (Member # 3262) on :
Yes, what Dan_raven said. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I knew they had gotten together a couple times when they happened to be in the same place at the same time.
However, I was thrown off by Dana's long ago assertion that Bob couldn't ask her to marry him on their first meeting. I mean it was joking of course but I thought that she was serious too, and then her singleness thread.
I figured it was someone in Minnesota or something.
Now I see hints of it all over the place!
happy twitterpation...
AJ
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
quote:I hope you will tell us more... when you're ready of course.
IMHO, he is truly a lucky man.
Very tricksy of you, Bob. Congratulations to the both of you! Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
quote:No pressure, but I hope really really hard that this works out for you two.
If it doesn't work, at least one of us would have to leave Hatrack in utter disgrace and embarrassment.
You don't call that pressure?????!!!
I mean, I've got the post count thing going for me, but Dana is actually useful here.
Anyway, thanks Dan.
U2 Vana.
Dana had some stuff to deal with (she's actually working, unlike me) so I'm not sure if she can pop in to see all these nice wishes right now... But I'm sure she'll be back later.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Shigosei... I was actually trying to get her to describe how mushy she is about me, but for some reason, it didn't work.
I am a very lucky guy, though. I'm not sure I deserve it (or deserver it as Dan so eloquently put it ) but I'm not about to stop just because I don't feel worthy.
I'll just have to try to live up to my potential from here on out.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
It's about time a couple of uber-Jatraqueros combined their powers!
(No offense to other couples who have met here.)
-Bok
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Hatrack love! What a great thing.... Congrats!
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
quote:If it doesn't work, at least one of us would have to leave Hatrack in utter disgrace and embarrassment.
I was wondering when you'd figure that part out.
Now, I'm wondering if you'll figure out of the rest of it - the part that being a gentleman, etc. dictates about just who that will be.
(Don't mean to make too much light of it - been in analagous situations myself. Took some risks when I followed my heart with Diane.)
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
sndrake:
JOKING ANSWER: I'd get all the fluff threads and she'd get all the serious ones.
But the truth is we're not worrying about it.
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
Posable_Man tried to clue me in. But when he kept putting his hands to his heart, then putting them together and bowing his head and then pointing to the NorthEast, I thought that he was saying that he was praying for Boston Red Sox fans whose hearts had been broken by the A-Rod trade.
My mistake. May your relationship flourish and grow like a last post thread.
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
quote:But the truth is we're not worrying about it.
I figured as much. My post was more reflective of "end of the day" lack of impulse control than anything else.
Like everyone else so far, it's nice to see two neat people find each other. Can't speak for others, but I don't think any farther than that.
Posted by asQmh (Member # 4590) on :
See what happens when I get out of the loop? First thing you know, everything just goes to ...
...wait...
This is a good thing.
...
Nevermind. Carry on.
(But not too much).
Q.
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
BTW, since I was raised a Mormon, I don't have any godparents who spoil and indulge me. But there's nothing in my theology that preculdes the idea. So you know, if you two are up for it, the position is open...
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
quote: I was actually trying to get her to describe how mushy she is about me, but for some reason, it didn't work.
I am as mushy as the slush and mud in my front yard after a three-day thaw.
Not a particularly romantic metaphor, but it’s the one that popped to mind. I just walked through it.
I’m glad you guys know. It was hard having something so important going on and not telling Hatrack. Thank you all for making this forum the kind of place we both liked so much that we hung around long enough to fall for each other. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*runs in circles*
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I'm going to break my own rule and use an animated smilie here:
I had no clue. But then again, I'm the gullible one.
Does this mean that we can have another Harack spring romance meme? Yay! Kisses all around!
Now you both will be receiving invitations to the secret "Hatrack Couples Only" parties. Mwa ha ha ha ha!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Hatrack Spring o_O
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
I'd be all for a hatrack spring romance theme... it'd be a nice change from my normal theme...
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
*echoes need for jaw-drop smilie*
If only Papa Moose kept persevering at this thread... Right idea, wrong hatracker!
Congratulations Bob & Dana! Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Well, I didn't see this thread till the cat was already out of the bag.
I have just one thing to say:
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
Hmm... how 'bout it, mack? How far a drive are you from NJ?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
About four hours. *waits*
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
Done and done.
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
So, when you drivin' down?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*raises eyebrow*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
March 20th. *runs in circles*
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
Seriously?
::runs around cleaning up::
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Yeah, I'm visiting Jexx, didn't I tell you?
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
You're *both* coming?
But... um... jexx is married, no?
Jeez... didn't know I was such a hot commodity...
No pressure, though... none at *all*... Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
More like, if I go down to NYC and don't see Jexx at some point, I will be shot. And Mr. Jexx is in the ARMY. o_O
However, you are not. How messy IS your room?
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
!
That's so great you two! (As the dots indicate, I'm speechless )
yes, the dots indicate that I'm speechless as well.
Hobbes Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
*picks jaw off of floor*
My jaw actually dropped, it's never actually done that before.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Uh oh, the hatrack fuzzies will be coming out in force.
<puts on studded leather jacket and wears some sunglasses at night>
Okay, I can take it now.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*sings*
Spring is here, spring is here! Life is skittles, life is beer. I think the loveliest time of the year is the spring. I do, don't you? 'Course you do. But there's one thing that makes spring complete for me, And makes ev'ry Sunday a treat for me.
All the world seems in tune On a spring afternoon . . . ♫
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Is rivka twitterpated? o_O
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
If anything can kick Hatrack out the serious part of its Cycle, this development is a prime candidate!
-Bok
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*giggles* Nah, just happy for those who are.
And *snickering* at those who clearly don't know the next few lines (or the title) of the song . . . Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Why don't you LOG ONTO AIM and TELL me?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*cackles*
'Cuz this is way more fun!
*flees*
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I was going to come in to find out why this is the Brazil nut in tonight's thread mix, and Whoa!
Now I'll have to go see if we can figure out who Derrell is with.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Did someone already threaten to dobie: I can see Bob's sense of humor all over this?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
mack, Google is your friend!
10 points for the first person to post the next two lines and/or the title of the song!
On your mark, get set, GO! Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
That's great, pooka!
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
"Poisoning pigeons in the park"
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*awards 10 points to Shigosei*
See, mack, not twitterpated -- and I have plans for those who twitter too much . . . Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Get on AIM, I'll show YOU.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Pfft. Threats aren't going to do it, mack. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
You just WISH you knew what I was doing.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Mack, you need to run -- run, not walk -- to the nearest place to illegally download some Tom Lehrer. Lehrer, along with Douglas Adams and Monty Python and D&D, is one of the major touchstones of geek culture.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Or you could buy the CDs. I think mack will especially like "The Vatican Rag." Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
Is this serious? No wait, is this really really serious? I'm so effing confused. I mean, Bob and Dana? BOB AND DANA??? If this is true, that's SO COOL...
Are we joking? I'm confused! SO CONFUSED!!!!
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
OK.... My roommate and my friend from down the hall were around when I started freaking out about this whole thing, and they got it on film. I would have gotten it if I'd have read page one of the stupid thread all the way through!!! Now they think I'm a weird freak!
I'mna send the clip to foobonic...
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
They just figured that out NOW?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Wow. I'm at a loss for words to describe the supreme coolness.
If this God fellow exists, I've got to hand it to Him... this is an absolutely magnificent twist of fate he has engineered here.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
So I was talking to aka on IM:
quote:BannaOj: oh my isn't dkw-Bob_S cool!!! theropeofallah: they aren't dating each other? theropeofallah: they're each dating other people, no? BannaOj: oh dear... read the thread BannaOj: http://www.hatrack.com/ubb/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=021904;p=2 theropeofallah: i have been reading it theropeofallah: they aren't talking about each other! BannaOj: keep reading down BannaOj: the old tricksters theropeofallah: good grief! BannaOj: ROTFL!!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
twinky, you have no idea. And God is laughing in many more ways that we're just finding out about. We'll probably share more on that as we figure it out ourselves.
But suffice it to say that our faces are cramping up from smiling so much.
Also, I have to just say thank you to whoever invented unlimited nights & weekends on cell phone minutes. Dana has that now and I think I'll go get a phone with that plan because my corporate phone (900 minutes per month) is sort of going to get maxed out if I'm not careful, and the overage is hugely expensive.
Free roaming is good though.
You know, this country is very large through the midsection. I never realized how fat it is. Iowa is a frequin' long way away. I'd like someone to get to work on that.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
conspiracy of cartographers.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Bob and Dana, I'm so, so happy for you both.
Now, if I can just get Tom to post pictures of himself in a little sailor suit, my life at Hatrack will be complete.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
You mean you didn't see them?
Posted by jexx (Member # 3450) on :
I had to ask mack (in AIM) if what I read in this thread was for real. I mean, sometimes I just don't get practical jokes. *grin*
YAY! Bob_Scopatz and dkw! Bob and Dana! No pressure, though.
(yay)
I am a little scared by the implications of an 'uber-jatraquero' combination (tm someone upthread).
Jinkies.
Posted by Trogdor the Burninator (Member # 4894) on :
Wow. Bob and Dana. Very cool. Congratulations.
**burninates the happy couple**
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
*grins like an idiot*
I saw the Hatrack love thread FIRST and was like "WHAT??" So I started going down the front page link by link to try to figure out when THIS earth-rattling news was announced. I found it!!
Congrats you two. I respect you both so much that this news just couldn't be any better!!!
[ March 03, 2004, 12:55 AM: Message edited by: Narnia ]
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Oh, Wow.
Big grins all around for this.
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
Holy shit.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
(reading page 2 of thread at work, but won't wait with posting until I finish)
I was just asked by a boy opposite me, why on earth am I sitting there all excited and thrilled and smiling like an idiot. It was difficult to explain.
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I read the Hatrack Lover's thread first too. But I had read the beginning of this thread... I stopped reading just before one of the posts that would have ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED me that it was for truly really real. The one where the ice cream shop with me me me was mentioned.
YAYS! I'll have my friend send me that video ASAP, and if I can't get it on foobonic, I'll somehow send it to one of you guys. It's priceless. Posted by larisse (Member # 2221) on :
Sheesh! This is what I get for not reading this forum for a day. I missed this.
Congrats to Bob_Scopatz and dkw. You two make another lovely pair for Hatrack.
Posted by Dead_Horse (Member # 3027) on :
Haha! Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Huh?
Congrats!
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
(with apologies to Sondheim)
So much happiness Starting with a glance at Hatrack, So much happiness, So much love!
Congratulations!
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
This is what happens when you don't read every page of every thread as it happens.
Congratulations you two!
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Wow, I haven't read this thread since my post on the first page so this bit of news managed to sail right past me.
Dana, I love your choice of thread title. Respect++
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
Couldn't think of two more deserving people in the world to have such happiness fall upon! Congratulations and a long and winding road ahead of you! Enjoy every last minute of it! Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
Yay!
Narnia, I did the same thing as you, only when I looked at this thread I only made it partly through the second page (not far enough ), and I decided everyone was joking. Today I finally decided to get to the bottom of it.
So Bob, have you done an ice-cream personality compatability thing with the two of you? Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Yesterday was The Day for the Hatrack Refresh Button Pressing to pay off.
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
<-can't talk
<-way too excited
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Oh my stars, I was just thinking about all the little things that we should have noticed, like dkw pushing Bob's landmark thread, and Bob's comments about his weekends being busy.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
I guess I'm one of the few persons around here not having to be emb rr ssed for not guessing this, as I don't really know all the details neither about dkw, nor about Bob...
Anyway, congratulations to the both of you, and thanks for the nice game you played for us in this thread !
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Dang it kat, that landmark thread was before he asked me out. Now he’s going to know I liked him!
Huh, this *is* kind of like Junior High.
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
So if I understand what you're saying, dkw, we should go back through all the threads in which both you and Bob make an appearance and look for hints, shaded meanings, sub-texts, etc.
I bet you that some enterprising jatraqeuro/a [not me -- I'm just the idea man -- let others do the detail work] could even reconstruct a timeline of attraction and affection.
See this is the danger of relationships that form via Hatrack -- all of sudden your postings take on new meaning.
It's like Kafka and his precursors.
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
Actually, I remember wondering whether dkw and Bob_Scopatz were together when I first got that email that asked whether I wanted to meet with them. I was like... Hmmm... What the heck? I thought Bob was divorc- Oh. Hmmmm.....
Eheheheh. I was just hoping for this to happen for a while, personally. Posted by Vána (Member # 3262) on :
I just love this thread. It makes me grin like an idiot every time I see it! Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
*giggle* CT and I were bubbling all morning about this! Congratulations! Its so wonderful to see two people that I like and respect so much happy.
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
Wow!
Wow!
That is just fantastic. I mean...
Wow.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
One funny thing...the letter to Dana in which I asked her out for the first time was actually sitting in her P.O. Box while you all were up there for the Midwest Gathering. I was too afraid to ask if she'd received it yet, then dying because she didn't say "yes" or "no" or even give a hint that she had seen it.
So, I called her and blew the whole surprise of the letter by asking her out over the phone. And warning her that the letter might make her want to say "no!" just because of how bad a letter it was.
That she actually went out in the freezing cold to the Post Office to get the silly thing (3 miles uphill both ways in a driving blizzard) (hey, a guy can dream, can't he?) and STILL said yes just amazed me.
No offense to all you other lucky guys out there, but I think I may be the luckiest guy on the planet.
Ryuko, I've liked Dana since the first post I read of hers here on Hatrack. But meeting her was strictly platonic even after the divorce. I was serious when I said I wasn't going to date for a year after the divorce because of what that kind of thing does to one's ability to behave properly towards others, especially romantically. But a funny thing happened. I finally decided that I was ready to start dating and I kept thinking about Dana whenever that thought came into my head. I purposefully tried to think of someone else, even, and it just wouldn't stick. I couldn't think of actually dating anyone else and feel like I wasn't just wasting time I should be spending with Dana.
So,...I asked her.
She foolishly accepted.
And now it's public. I've got witnesses.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:So,...I asked her.
She foolishly accepted.
Okay, I read this part of the post first. Guess what I was thinking...
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
It’s a good story, Bob, but you forgot one thing. Some of these guys have been to Radcliffe, and they know the whole town is only six blocks long. Three miles in a blizzard indeed!
It was a wonderful letter, btw.
[ March 03, 2004, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: dkw ]
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
No, kat. That's a Mormon relationship timeline. Real people don't do that sort of thing. Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
See... I had an inside track on the intuition of knowing they were talking about each other...
...because I remember seeing the light-up on Dana's face when Bob called the Iowa gathering. If the rest of you weren't paying attention -- well, that's your fault! Even if he hadn't asked her out yet, it was very obvious she felt something for him!
<GRIN>
Farmgirl
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
AAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHWowowowie!
This is so good. This is really, really good.
You guys deserve each other, oh man, this is soooo great.
*there's no smiley this big, but x 100 comes close
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
Here ya go! Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Okay, six blocks after dark wearing flip flops. You had to wait for the light to change, right?
Still, it's a heavy sacrifice nonetheless.
Thanks for the smilies. We expected more of these than these
and kat...things are out of sequence enough...please read the posts in order!!! Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
You think we have traffic lights in this town?!?
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Okay, this town basically has slush and no traffic control devices. Sounds like a traffic safety guy's dream come true! I could install lighting, crosswalks, etc.
Are the streets paved? If not, we could get Zgator to come up and test the soil for you.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Ok, I just went back and re-read page one of this thread.
First, I'd like to re-iterate that Bob and dkw are hint-droppers.
Was the choice of leap-day (for dkw's original post) deliberate?
And then there was this . . .
quote: Rivka, I’m not sure what’s in order. I’m feeling a little bit dazed. Ask me in a month or so.
*marks March 29th on the calendar*
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Chuckles and offers hugs to both lucky souls!
Yeah!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Rivka... I think maybe March 29th would be about right...don't go anywhere that weekend. We'll probably at least post about our date.
And by the way, Annie, you made two really nice posts in this thread and neither of us acknowledged them publicly. Thank you so much!!!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Go anywhere? The weekend a week before Pesach (Passover)? Riiighhht.
Maybe if I run out of Formula 409. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
quote:Maybe if I run out of Formula 409.
Yeah, or lamb's blood for the lintel.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Nah, that takes the same amount every year.
Actually, I found Hatrack last year, when I was avoiding cleaning for Pesach . . . Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
*giggles a lot*
This is FUN! Thanks y'all, and good luck Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Well, if you work at it, you could do your 6000th landmark during Pesach this year.
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
Oh yeah: dkw, have you made eggplant ice cream for Bob yet? Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
And if I really work at it, I could hit 6000 in time for my first Hatrack-versary. Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Oooo, plaid, good idea! And would you believe I still have roasted eggplant in the freezer?
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Count me as another person who was completely taken by surprise by this! Dkw, Bob, this is *fantastic*! Two of my favorite people I've never met getting together--what could be better?
I've been smiling about this all morning!
Posted by Lime (Member # 1707) on :
I've tried to post here to express how surprised and happy I am for you guys before, but it never really worked.
This is so cool. Congrats, you two!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Bob, at least dkw's town has a gas station. I think you need to re-read the city jatraqueros adventures coming home from Dana's to get a better impression of the area...
AJ
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
She's been sort of easing me into the thing gently. The fact that her "big" town has fewer than 700 people didn't really sink in the first few times I heard it. I've been making bad jokes about having to "run over to Mt. Pilot" every time you need something.
<2 points to whoever can 'splain that reference>
<it's an easy one, so only 2 points>
Shoot, the entire town could fit inside a small movie theater with seats to spare. When I'm on travel, I probably physically bump into more people walking across an airport terminal than they have in this town.
It is a frightening idea.
The smallest town I've EVER lived in had over 50,000 people in it. This place is two orders of magnitude smaller.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Say hello to Floyd the Barber.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
+2 to Storm.
I'm more worried about Otis, the town drunk.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
oh yeah -- Otis!
We met him when AJ & I went down to the gas station/store in town to buy a pop. He's harmless.
*snicker*
Farmgirl
Posted by amira tharani (Member # 182) on :
Yayayayayayay!!!!!!!! Congratulations both of you! I was wondering if you were dating each other right from the start... but then I've been in Manchester for three days and when I got onto Hatrack I looked at the other thread first and then had to come back and look at this one... you crazy crazy wind up merchants! *is vicariously twitterpated*
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
Okay, let me try this again, since my first post just disappeared somewhere in cyberspace.
Dana and Bob, this is just the best news I've heard in ages. God not only has a great sense of humor, but is a pretty darn good matchmaker as well.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
This thread illustrates the problem with working while at work. Can't believe I am just now reading it. I'm so happy for you two! In fact, I'm so happy that for the first time ever, I am bestowing a second Big Right On on a single thread. Woo hoo!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I just told my mom about Dana. She's thrilled!
I mentioned the age thing to her and her response was pretty funny. She was trying to say that I'm "young at heart" but clearly what she meant is that she simply assumed Dana was more mature than I am, and I had to admit that this was probably true. And that, in fact, I'm counting on it being true.
Dana! You've got another fan!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
20 days...
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I've got 15. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Well touch you!
(congrats!)
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
Wow, I posted on this thread and left it be... I come back and, WOW!
Congrats guys, you make a great couple!
And mack, what's your 15 days?
Posted by John L (Member # 6005) on :
Wow, Bob... dating someone you met over the internet. You must be geeky.
By the way, can you shoot an e-mail my way? john AT grenme.com
I had something to ask ya. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Wouldn't YOU like to know.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
OK, I avoided most threads while writing the landmark, so I totally missed out on this.
CONGRATULATIONS!
My fiance and I were long distance for almost 2 years. Our phone bills were horrendous until unlimited long-distance plans came out.
Now I'm all sappy about love, so
CONGRATULATIONS!
again.
Dagonee
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
You're right, I would like to know: that's why I asked. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I'm going through dkw withdrawals. It's been almost 21 hours since we hung up the phone. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*pat pat*
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Awwww....Bob! I remember being like that when I was dating. My family said it was because I was young, but I think they were full of it.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
They were just jealous. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
PSI, I remember being like this when I was 19. I'm 45 now. I'm supposed to be trading bon mots with the guys down that the country club while Muffy (my "perfect society wife") takes tennis lessons from some guy that looks like a blonde Yanni.
Okay, so I lead a rich fantasy life.
As it is, I'm mainly surprised that I can be this "smitten" with someone. That it's someone who deserves it is just amazing.
I haven't talked this much on the phone with a woman since my my last parole interview.
Could I really be THIS lucky?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Bob, PLEASE don't leave openings like that.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Why Miss Mackillian, whatever do you mean?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
exactly.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
What?
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Okay Bob, stop flirting with the non-dkws... There's a one Jatraquera limit, bub.
-Bok
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
o_0
I'm not flirting... I'm honestly clueless and mystified. What the HECK is Mack talking about???
Sheesh!!!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Gettin' lucky. I mean, DUH. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
What? I am getting lucky. I don't see how that's...oh... uh,...
Okay, you meant I shouldn't say it's luck when really it's more like God's plan or something.
Sorry. I'm new to all this religious stuff. You think God might get upset because I said His machinations were really just me getting lucky?
Is that what you meant?
'CUZ I KNOW you weren't just making some tawdry sex reference that would violate the sanctity of this thread!!!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
It's not like I'm CT. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
Bob said:
quote:I'm 45 now.
This is great! As one of the oldest people around here, I've been looking for a way to describe my age! I've considered "older than dirt," "older than Moses," and a variety of others that have been unsatisfactory for one reason or another.
From now on when referring to my age, I'll just use "OTB" - Older Than Bob.
Just want to say again that I am very happy for both you and Dana - I think it's great when life can surprise us by screwing up our plans in a good way. Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Hey, sndrake, I'm older than Bob.
And I am willing to bet I am older than you, too.
quote:Actually, I found Hatrack last year, when I was avoiding cleaning for Pesach . . .
rivka, that's hilarious. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Ela, how sad is it that it's also true? Until last March, I didn't even go online many days -- not even to check email! The computer was sometimes off for days at a time. Then I found Hatrack, and my other forums, and well . . .
At least the Pesach cleaning did get done. Eventually.
sndrake, I've always been partial to the word "antediluvian" -- it just rolls off the tongue. Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
quote:It's not like I'm CT.
Hey! I'm just chronically misunderstood.
*wounded look
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
No, no, you are chronically UNDERstood. Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
I'm also old, too. I have a serious chunkola of grey hair.
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
Ela said:
quote:Hey, sndrake, I'm older than Bob.
Well, I was careful to say I was one of the oldest people around here...
rivka, trying to be helpful:
quote:sndrake, I've always been partial to the word "antediluvian" -- it just rolls off the tongue.
It may roll off, but it just is not in the same league as "OTB." Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I, apparently, am a baby. But I think I'm old. Yup.
Actually, what's really odd today, I just found out that two people I graduated with and who married each other after graduation, are expecting a kid. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
But OTB can be confused easily with ODB--which means Ol' Dirty Bastard. *snicker*
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
And your point, Mack? Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
CT, if you stand next to me, no one will even notice your chunkola of grey hair. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
What Ela neglects to mention is that she has the COOLEST hair.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
In some places, OTB means Off Track Betting . . .
mack, should I point out that by the time I was your age I had two kids? Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
So did my parents. I'm WAY behind. But I'm in no way at all ready for children. Way too big of a responsibility. And being married? Ack. Same thing. So not ready. I still suck at sharing Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
It's not a race -- or if it is, preparation counts more than I realized going in.
*hands mack a toy* Share nice! Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
quote:In some places, OTB means Off Track Betting . . .
Yep - like in New York state, where I grew up.
Youngsters.
Don't you know the value of a set-up?
I refer to myself here in Hatrack as "OTB" and someone asks, all confused "huh, Off Track Betting??"
And I reply "no. it stands for 'Older than Bob'."
Sweet.
[ March 07, 2004, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Well, in terms of managing kids and all that stuff...you'd think I'd be pretty well prepared.
But SO not ready. There's a reason why I like coming home from work to no kids.
I work with them. 'Nuff for me to realize "Oh, don't want THEM yet."
Best birth control EVER.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
*steals toy from mack*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*TACKLE* *steals toy back* *monkey bump*
Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
CT, its a beautiful sorceress's stripe, not a "chunkola of gray hair!"
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
Hey! Over here. Also Older Than Bob. (But only by two years. )
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I thought OTB meant Option To Buy, like in car lease commercials.
AJ
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
Congratulations, Dana. Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Holy cr@p!!! Ralphie posted!!!!
:happydance:
OTB...I like it.
I really needed a dose of Dana today. Of course it's her busiest workday, but I called anyway just to say Hi!
Too bad I was on my dying cell phone in a windstorm.
Mack...I have always been selfish. The weird thing is, when you find someone you want to share with, it sort of evaporates, you know?
So, I just think when you're ready it'll happen. And until then, you can work to accumulate cool stuff that you can use to ensnare your true love.
Bright shiny objects...trust me on this.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Okay. I'll bring shiny objects with me to NY.
Hmm.
I'm also bringing Scrabble.
I have all the cool toys 'cause I work with kids.
Hmmm.
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Bob, Ralphie did indeed post today. In fact I was so shocked that I started a thread about it. Nobody has replied to it, though.
quote: Bright shiny objects...trust me on this.
Bob, maybe I'm wrong, but could the bright, shiny objects you're talking about be diamonds? If not, forget I brought it up.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Springform pans, actually.
<---- covets Bob's bakeware.
[ March 07, 2004, 09:30 PM: Message edited by: dkw ]
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Bakeware? Congratulations you two. May your relationship continue to thrive.
edited for spelling
[ March 07, 2004, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: Derrell ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Actually, I don't like diamonds.
Springform pans, however, mean CHEESECAKE. Posted by jexx (Member # 3450) on :
Shiny!
*wanders off*
*wanders back*
Ralphie posted!?!?!!
Shiny Ralphie. *smiles happily*
*wanders off again*
Posted by fallow (Member # 6268) on :
jexx,
come back with that dessert cart!
fallow
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Well let you all know when Dana's got something in the oven.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Posted by fallow (Member # 6268) on :
ralphie?
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
See, now this is why you never announce that you're dating on your online forum. You get all this!
When's the wedding!!??? Can I be in the wedding!??? If you guys have kids, will you name one of them after me!??? If you guys get married, where will you live!?? Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera...
By the way... If there's a wedding, can I be in it??
...seriously.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I will remind people that we haven't even dated yet.
Sheesh! No pressure, eh?
So, you're thinking like dinner & a movie and then I'll just ask Dana to marry me?
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
Something like that - but I think some people might have put the items in slightly different order. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Well... this is a forum owned by a Mormon.
Okay, all married Mormons out there who dated your spouse for two months or less before getting engaged, raise your hand!
*counts* 80%. Sounds about right.
[ March 07, 2004, 10:31 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by larisse (Member # 2221) on :
quote:So, you're thinking like dinner & a movie and then I'll just ask Dana to marry me?
Bob_S... don't tempt God like that, especially in a thread like this. It could happen. It wouldn't be a bad thing, mind you. It just fits into the whole sense of humor thing so well. But, you two have good heads on your shoulders.
fallow... Ralphie is the forum Hawtie Goddess Extraordinaire (Is that the proper spelling for "hawtie"?) and keeper of the Hatrack Foobonic Pics. There are others on this forum that could do her description far more justice than I could. Alas, she's been on sabbatical. Only the most extraordinary of things (such as this news) can summon her presence.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Oh no!!!! I've been drinking Hatrack River water. Now you tell me!
so, sndrake, you're recommending proposal, then dinner & movie?
Wow, you ARE a fast worker!
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
quote: But, you two have good heads on your shoulders.
I've never been accused of that before! Thanks!
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I wasn't SAYING you were going to propose to her right away or anything. I was just calling dibs, in the event that it does happen. Better safe than sorry, I always say.... This way, if anyone else on Hatrack asks, I can say I asked first. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
How do you look in poofy satin dresses with bows on the derriere?
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Oh, you'd also have to be a member of either Dana's religion or mine. Mine's easier -- automatic membership and NO particular requirements for what you believe.
Unfortunately, our success rate of getting people into heaven is a big unknown.
edit to add the "NO"
[ March 08, 2004, 01:34 AM: Message edited by: Bob_Scopatz ]
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
If you guys have kids, will you name one of them after me!???
quote: Dear Icarus,
How've you been? DKW and I are doing great, and little Icky is growing by leaps and bounds. So anyway, when are you guys coming to Texas?
Sincerely, Bob_Scopatz
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
quote: so, sndrake, you're recommending proposal, then dinner & movie?
No!! Wasn't me! Honest!!
Really, I'll sit back and enjoy the ride vicariously. I should have been a little more explicit - I think some of the other Hatrackers aren't real fussy about the order.
And I'm the wrong gender to belong in that group! (ducking)
quote: Wow, you ARE a fast worker!
Yes and no. After 7 years, Diane and I still aren't married. Other aspects of our relationship were on a much faster track, though. Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
quote:so, sndrake, you're recommending proposal, then dinner & movie?
I'm sorry but I just don't see the problem with this plan.
Unlike some other people, I'm not greedy, I would just like a nice invitation to the wedding. And airfare of course.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
If they have kids, whether of the squirmy or fluffy variety (or even scaly, I'm not picky), I call dibs on being First Auntie.
Sweet.
[ March 08, 2004, 12:35 AM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
And I get to be Second Auntie, right?
Why haven't you two had kids yet? ..., people, we don't have all day.
[ March 09, 2004, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: kacard ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
wow, CT. That makes me wonder if I ever have progeny what sort of dibs you'll have on them o_O
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