Hatrack River Forum: Shinda? Or, is saxon75 an elitist snob?

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Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :

Am I a total elitist if I want the word "Shinda" to apply only to SoCal events? Should I embrace the spirit of Hatrack togetherness? Or should I defend what has become a SoCal jatraquero tradition?

I mean, on the one hand keeping the Shindae in SoCal would make it easier to keep track of the list and it might also make it more likely that new people would attend them, since obviously everyone wants to see a genuine Hatrack Shinda at least once in their lives. Still, get-togethers are a good thing wherever they are, and maybe letting other people use the name will encourage more such events.

Thoughts?

Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :

Just because I don't even know what "shinda" means doesn't mean you're not an elitist snob.

Posted by Ghost of Xavier (Member # 2852) on :

As I am now a proud member of the socal clump, we should keep it to ourselves [Wink]

Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :

Do you think the term "jatraquero" should only apply to people who were around when David Bowles coined the term?

If not, why do you think "Shinda" should remain exclusive to a region?

Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :

Protect that copyright vigourously now, saxy, before it becomes industry standard, like "Kleenex."

Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :

Did you guys invent the word shinda to refer to SoCal Hatrack events, or was it around before then? What does it mean?

Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :

(shindig. Essentially.)

Well guess what? I use it when referring to jatraquero events anywhere without really thinking of anyone's feelings on the matter. Woops.

And what Tom said too. [Smile]

[ March 11, 2004, 01:37 PM: Message edited by: Narnia ]

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

It was a collective effort, conceived by LadyDove and someone at her local bakery.

There is no true Shinda but a SoCal Shinda!

Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :

For the first So-Cal get together, LadyDove got a cake made. The woman apparently did not have the word "shindig" in her vocabulary, and wrote "Hatrack Shinda" on the cake. Ever since, every So-Cal get-together (1) has a cake, and (2) is called a shinda.

The last cake had Shinda VII written on it. They are keeping track of who goes to which.

[ March 11, 2004, 01:37 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]

Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :

Jon Boy, you're so transparent. Please try to control your raging crush on me.

Tom, I suppose I could argue that the term "jatraquero" had become widely used before I even registered, so whatever I think about the issue is irrelevant. That would be a cop-out, though. Anyway, I already gave two reasons that keeping the Shindae in SoCal would be good--at least, good for me: relative ease of historical documentation and possible increased appeal for Southern California Hatrack events.

Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :

After hearing both sides of the testimony, I've decided that us Arizonans should come up with our own, super-cool term for a get together and let the SoCal'ers have their Shinda.

Case closed.

Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :

How could you increase the appeal of visiting with the Moose family? [Dont Know]

Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :

Only if you stop sending me your special emails, Saxon.

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

Possible compromise: They can have "shindas" wherever they like; but only "Shindas" occur in SoCal?

Or would that be too confusing?

What it really boils down to, I think, is that the AZ folks wish they lived here . . . [Big Grin]

[Edit: You people type too quickly!]

[ March 11, 2004, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: rivka ]

Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :

I don't think we knew the SoCal'ers made it up. [Razz]

Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :

Except for the traffic [Mad]

, I wouldn't mind...

Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :

quote:
Only if you stop sending me your special emails, Saxon.

And miss out on all that extra income? I'm just providing a service, man; you're the one who's out of control.

Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :

Out of interest, is any Hatrack gathering in SoCal a "shinda," even if none of the attendees have been to any other "shinda?" If not, is any gathering at which one person who has attended a "shinda" a "shinda," regardless of location?

Or is a proper "shinda" only a "shinda" if it takes place in Southern California AND includes at least one attendee who has been to one other "shinda?"

Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :

*pictures Hatrackers coming to Southern California seeing neither the Meese, Mr. and Mrs. John Saxon, Rivka, nor LadyDove*

It'll never happen.

Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :

Clearly, the term "Shinda" should only apply to SoCal Hatrack gatherings! If we allow non-SoCal gatherings to be termed "Shindas", the next thing you know polygamy will be legalized. It's a slipery slope, no two ways about it.

Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :

::::laughing, holding sides, shaking head, laughing some more::::

I originally cited one quote, but after Noeman's post I was laughing even harder!

Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :

You know, I thought the criterion for it being a Shinda was that there had to be a Shinda Cake, but if I recall correctly there was no cake when we hung out with Icarus and Cor at Downtown Disney.

Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :

Is that all I am to you, Saxon? Just another source of income? That's not what you said in your emails. Were they all lies?

Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :

PSIT, not that I'll attend, but I think we should call it an "AZ Bunching".

Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :

That depends, Jon Boy. When's the next payment coming?

Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :

The check's in the mail.

Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :

AZ Bunching?

Is that because we'll scare people so bad their cheeks will grab cotton?

Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :

Did I mention that I really missed PSI Teleport?

Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :

quote:
The check's in the mail.

In that case, I'm shocked that you could ever doubt me! You know you're my one and only, Jon Boy.

Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :

Okay, this is getting a little too weird. Is there a squicked out emoticon?

Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :

Try this one: [Kiss]

See how that works.

Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :

quote:
What does it mean?

(shindig. Essentially.)

So I don't have to be dead to join?

Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :

I think the last Shinda was number VI, kat, even though it was the seventh one (Shinda-IIIb happened at rivka's). There was a cake for the Disney Shinda, but it was decided that it would be too festive, considering the accident on Big Thunder that day.

I think "Shinda" applies only to SoCal gatherings that are organized through Hatrack, but there's no particular reason it should be my call. But if the battle over the term Shinda is going to be anything like the battle over the term "marriage" (as a subset of the battle over same-sex unions), it won't be worth the fight to me.

--Pop

Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :

<--already said the AZ peeps would pick another name.

Now when I say case closed I mean it.

CASE CLOSED.

[Wink]

Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :

I still think Greensboro should have CardFest. Personally, I've lived here for four years and still haven't met the man or his wonderful family. [Dont Know]

Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :

quote:
Okay, this is getting a little too weird. Is there a squicked out emoticon?

Mission accomplished!

::leans back with a smirk, humming "We Are the Champions"::