It's official, and I can't believe that nobody's posted on it yet.
Star Wars - Episode I: The Phantom Menace Star Wars - Episode II: Attack of the Clones Star Wars - Episode III: Revenge of the Sith Star Wars - Episode IV: A New Hope Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back Star Wars - Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
Posted by Lime (Member # 1707) on :
It's refreshing that Lucas has at least made one good decision while making the prequels. Of course, it's an old idea - he's had that whole 3rd movie/Revenge of the X thing sitting around on his back burner for quite a long time.
Maybe he's been saving all the good stuff up for last.
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Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
It's kind of depressing. You know this movie's going to suck, but at the same time, you know you have to watch it, just to get it over with.
*sigh*
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
I, too, can smell the apathy from here.
Was the first one always called "A New Hope", or did they name it retroactively when they started making new ones?
Posted by Jutsa Notha Name (Member # 4485) on :
They changed it after the first few months or the first year, I believe. After it was apparent that Lucas had a hit on his hands, the title was changed to reflect it being the first of a series in 1979.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
As I understand it, "Return of the Jedi" was initially written as "Revenge of the Jedi" until some colorful editing was implemented.
-Trevor
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
revenge isn't a good jedi trait, I remember the argument being.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
It wasn't editing - the title was merely changed because of what was just said above - Revenge wasn't a Jedi trait. Plus, Return had a few double meanings in all that capped off the story well ((Return of the Jedi (singular) = Luke, Return of the Jedi (plural) = Jedi and the Light Side of the Force in General)).
I'm quite looking forward to Revenge of the Sith.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
The first movie alwasy had "Episode IV: A New Hope" in the opening sequence.
I don't believe it was ever used as the title until the special editions came out in the theaters, although it might have been on the cover of the VHS versions before that.
Dagonee
Posted by msquared (Member # 4484) on :
As some one who saw the original movie at the movie theater when it first came out, something many of our younger members can not say as they were not born when the movie was first released, I do not remember their being a sub-title in the movie. Lucas may have always had the idea but it was not on the original print, IIRC.
msquared
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Try saying "The Revenge of the Sith" fast and over and over again. It's quite a tongue twister, especially when you're not thinking about it.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote:The first movie alwasy had "Episode IV: A New Hope" in the opening sequence.
Not exactly. The 1977 theatrical release didn't have the EPISODE IV header. It wasn't until the 1979 theatrical Re-Release (when it was known for a fact that the sequels could be made) that the title was added.
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
Which Sith is going to have his revenge? I don't remember in the second movie anything happening to a sith that he needs revenge for. But I think this movie is going to be really good, considering all the things that's going to have to happen in it, including Anakin turning into Darth Vader, the Empire being established, Luke and Leia being born, I think it'll be a fun movie to watch.
Posted by Jutsa Notha Name (Member # 4485) on :
Yes, I remember the first release. It was changed in `79. What was it, October or September? Or was it earlier in the year?
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Release dates, any one?
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
I've never seen any of the Star wars movies - are they good?
Posted by FoolishTook (Member # 5358) on :
quote:It's kind of depressing. You know this movie's going to suck, but at the same time, you know you have to watch it, just to get it over with.
That's exactly how I feel. But maybe--if we keep our expectations low (really, really low)--this third one will be a pleasant surprise.
Posted by Cowboy Poet (Member # 6724) on :
I didn't think Episode 2 was all that bad. Phantom Menace stunk out loud, but Considering the time between the first 3 movies and the last two, it's better to think about them as two seperate franchises. There was just not the same magic. . .
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
It's not so much that the two trilogies are separate franchises. It's that Lucas wrote Return of the Jedi, Phantom Menace, and Attack of the Clones. He's an awful writer, he should leave the dialogue to others...
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Oh, don't get me started on Ep II! The love story--what a joke! Older, wiser, more mature Princess Amidala falls for younger, foolish, immature, *angsty* Aniken? Why? Because he's cute? Oh puh-leeez. "I truly, deeply, love you." How did Natalie keep a straight face when she said it? Now *that* was acting.
Sure, we all thought Yoda fighting with a lightsaber was a cool idea when it first occurred to us, but then we came to our senses. He moved like a mosquito on crack, as I believe someone once phrased it. It didn't do any more for the image of the "wise, powerful yoda" than midichlorians did for "The Force".
And when the movie came out on DVD, the big selling line was "See Yoda Da Man!" As though that was the only thing the movie had going for it and they knew it! That was the moment I knew that Star Wars couldn't sink any lower.
Though you are correct, I will *have* to watch this movie at some point, if only out of curiosity. And hey, I can always throw marshmallows at it. (We like to rent uber-awful movies and pelt the screen w/ marshmallows whenever the movie hath offended us.)
I used to side with the reasoning that Lucas was abducted by aliens and replaced with a doppleganger of some sort. But now I think I have come to the realization that the first three were only good by some miracle, some higher grace. I come to this conclusion after watching movies like "Howard the Duck". (And have you *seen* the Ewok movies?!) If you haven't seen it then you need to watch it so you can realize that that Lucas is not capable of making good movies. Maybe the original 3 Star Wars were a result of a Lucas doppleganger. Oh, but if you do watch it, make sure you have your marshmallows ready....
Edit: Who here saw that contest of Star Wars fan-fic movies? Lucas was the judge, got to pick which one he thought was best. He passed over multitudes of brilliant options, most of which at least slightly poked fun at the movies, and chose the incredibly poorly made and cheesy.... I am trying to remember the title, it was something like "Playing with Tontons". Some silly song about a girl who likes to play with her Star Wars (tm) merchandise toys.
The man is brilliant with special effects and whatnot, but keep him as far away from the writing and story-line as possible! He ruins whatever he touches.
[ July 25, 2004, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: beverly ]
Posted by Mr.Gumby (Member # 6303) on :
quote: As I understand it, "Return of the Jedi" was initially written as "Revenge of the Jedi" until some colorful editing was implemented
This was a ploy put out by lucas. They "accidentally" let 'Revenge of the Jedi' leak out to fool people who made boot-leg merchandise.
Posted by gnixing (Member # 768) on :
i liked the first 2 movies. but then, i also liked howard the duck, and cabin boy.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Personally, I think Killer Klones from Outer Space stunk much worse than The Phantom Menace.
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I hate that movie. It is frankenmovie. The entirety of the background sets for Ep2 was digital. The movie had no life.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
quote: It's that Lucas wrote Return of the Jedi
No he didn't. He did, however, write the screenplay for A New Hope, the first Star Wars film.
And Lucas did not write the Ewok Movies OR Howard the Duck. He did, however, produce them.
Posted by fallow (Member # 6268) on :
Taal,
I suppose "Postcards from the Edge" is already taken?
fallow
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Watch The Hidden Fortress. Lucas cribbed the screenplay for A New Hope (admittedly).
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Fah - did anyone else groan and throw up their hands at the whole "midicholrione" (sp?) nonesense?
And I realize Lucas adapts his best stuff from other sources, but I'm suprised more people weren't perturbed at his "spontaneous inception" bit.
-Trevor
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
He didn't do the story for "Howard the Duck", but he did accredited to the stories of the Ewok movies (a la imdb.com)
He also is accredited to the story of "Willow".
Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
Medina, I was in fact a little perturbed. However, I subsequently have heard rumors that Palpatine and a bit of, er, genetic science are responsible for the unusual circumstances.
Which would make the Emperor Luke's grandpappy.... Posted by Paercival (Member # 1408) on :
if you watch EP II on DVD and just press NEXT on your handy dandy dvd remote everytime a love scence comes on, its actually a very very good movie.
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
And Willow rocks.
"You said you loved me." "It went away." "It went away?! I dwell in darkness without you, and it *went away*?!" "Yeah." *kick, hack'n'slash, etc.*
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I love Willow. The above exchange absolutely kills me, and I've used it on occasion. It's the perfect archetypal hero story - we watched it in English Lit as an example of such.
Posted by WheatPuppet (Member # 5142) on :
*wince* That pain in my stomach is returning. I seem to remember it started when I heard "Attack of the Clones."
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