Please accept my apologies to everyone involved for the uncivil behavior I displayed in the 'A Canadian's Perspective' thread today. The matters under discussion have been of immense importance to me for many years, and I am not familiar with discussing such things in casual settings where interpersonal considerations count for a lot. I wanted to withdraw much earlier from the discussion but felt my sincerity was being questioned when more important questions were at stake. My reactions escalated from there in concert with the other individual involved. Not an excuse. I take full responsibility. Be well.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Dude, it's all good.
As Dag noted, neither you nor the thread so much as registered on the Rack's Needle Of Snarky.
-Trevor
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I'm glad you're here. Cake?
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
I didn't read the whole thread, but I did read your first post. You did not offend me, and I was glad to see your perspective. It was eye-opening, and you had many good points. I hope you'll stick around and continue to contribute here!
Posted by punwit (Member # 6388) on :
We'd love for you to continue to post. I was working here at my house and I was flitting between the kitchen, where I was painting cabinets, and the computer because the thread was interesting. Be well.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I felt upset about the way that thread was going myself, mister boy--there has seldom been a new poster here I've been more predisposed to like enormously, sight unseen, and few people I like here more than Mike...it wasn't a good combination. I hope you'll continue to be a presence here.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
It's cool. I think any rudeness was confined to a single individual, so you don't have to make up with us. And I don't think saxon holds a grudge, although obviously I don't speak for him.
Dagonee
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
David, I too hope you'll stick around. You're a valuable addition to Hatrack. I thought your initial post was well thought out and was very thought provoking. Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Mister boy, you have just passed through your first initiation ceremony on your journey to becoming a full-fledged Jatraquero. The first is usually the hardest. Welcome!
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
*Careful, David - they're going to start posting hug graemlins around your name any minute now.*
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
*leaving before the hugs start flying*
Those things can take out an eye.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Be sure to keep leaving issues of Harper's on the 'loo for your wife.
(Incidentally, I also am Canadian, and caught the first half of that thread. I was curious to see where it would go, but when I came back it was gone.)
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
Whoa! A Canadian being uncivil????!!!
So, are you like from Quebec or something?
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
Having had some time to cool off, I think I was being a little oversensitive, and that I may have said some things that rubbed the wrong way as well. Mister Boy, you don't know me, so you may have received my comments in the "An American" thread in a way that I didn't intend. Likewise, I don't know you, so I took some of the things you said in the wrong way. I'd like to say, though, that I do agree with a lot of the things you had to say in your initial post, and that it was an exceptionally well-thought-out and well-written post. I don't hold any grudge against you, and I do hope that you stick around and get to know us all a little better. You seem an intelligent and interesting person, and I think the forum would be the better for having you around.
Posted by screechowl (Member # 2651) on :
I am mostly a lurker. I liked what you wrote. I agreed with it.
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
Hmmm...just came back from work, and didn't find the "Canadian" thread...could someone please tell me why the thread was erased?
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Looks like I went to bed and missed all the controversy.
I'm sorry if anyone got offended at my post - I didn't mean it in a negative every American is like this way, but more to illustrate a problem that I think does exist.
(For the record, I think under-education in terms of history exists in Australia as well - there is a youth culture that is almost wilfully proud not to know about their heritage.)
Anyway - sorry if people got upset because of that.
Mister Boy - I found your first post really really interesting, and very well written. Please don't feel you can't continue to express your opinions here - I for one certainly would like to see more of them.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Ed - there were some issues and the thread was deleted.
I think most of the ruffled feathers have been smoothed - no lasting damage done and no charred corpses to speak of.
-Trevor
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I love my country, but sometimes the truth hurts.
I have never been so embarassed to be an American as I was during my month in Europe. Not that it stopped me from staring down a comedian in a night club, mind you.
Although to be fair, when you live in England, you can jaunt to another country for the weekend. In America, not so much.
Which is the reason I choose to explain our profound lack of cultural appreciation and awareness.
-Trevor
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
TMedina: you may have a point there...it's easier for Europeans to travel and know other cultures than, say, an American, a Chinese, a Brazilian, an Australian or a Russian. The reason? Sheer country size.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Actually, Australians are still more multi-cultural than Americans - primarily because of a cultural emphasis to travel abroad.
Most of the fellow tourists I met were either Aussies or New Zealanders.
-Trevor
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Actually, mrB didn't realize that deleting the first post from a thread deletes the whole thread, something I did when I was new.
I read AJ's summery of it here , and I guess it got a bit rough, and he accidentally erased the whole thread trying to fix it.
I remember when I did that the first time...
MrB, it's all good, and I am glad you are still around.
Speaking of Canada, what the #@!$# is up with that stupid bridge from Canada to the US through Buffalo? 3 Lanes? Whith the middle one going both ways? What idiot thought THAT up? I was stuck there for 5 hours this summer, because some idiot closed the 405 exit off the QEW....so I couldn't go that way as I usually do.
Let me guess...he was American, right?
Kwea
[ August 19, 2004, 10:16 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
quote:TMedina: you may have a point there...it's easier for Europeans to travel and know other cultures than, say, an American, a Chinese, a Brazilian, an Australian or a Russian. The reason? Sheer country size.
And just consider my position. I live in Alaska, so I can't even bebop on over to another state for the afternoon like most other Americans can. Travel out of Alaska requires a real investment in time and money, the latter of which I have a chronic dearth of. I do love to travel, mind you. I've been to Europe and Japan and loved every moment. Actually, I've been to more European countries than I have American states. (Well, unless you want to count airport layovers. That would make the numbers equal. Technically I've been to Michigan and Minnesota, but I never got to step outside the airports there.)
Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
mister boy, please stay around. We always need more newbies who are thoughtful and passionate about their ideas. I'm delighted you're here. I didn't even see the thread but whatever it was, I'm sure it can't begin to compare with some of the over-the-top hatrack drama we've seen in the past.
Y'all remember the time an anonymous young male poster made a dramatic exit because he was in love with the married Ralphie and knew they could not both continue to post here and without succumbing to the brief mad passionate affair he could see on the horizon? That was so great! It later turned out to be a conspiracy between Ralphie, T Smith, and others to pull our collective chain. Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
It would have been much later if T hadn't pussied out and deleted the thread only a few hours after posting it. That said, it was a brilliant piece of writing.
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