Some people need to be reminded where they came from!!! I just want to post this in protest to those people who don't know how to respect their mommies.Just today at lunch time, I heard this girl say some thing about her "beeatching(that how you spell it?) mom" I was SOO DISGUSTED that some people can be so disrespectful, ungrateful, and literally such little bastards. I'm not a mom, but if I was, and my child ever said anything of the sort. I'd spank his or her ass purple-red.
[ August 31, 2004, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: Altįriėl of Dorthonion ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
If you were my mom, I'd make sure to say it out of your earshot. Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
See, the problem with this thread is the inevitability of the dobie "I love your mom!"
Posted by Happy Camper (Member # 5076) on :
really? I wasn't aware that beeatch had been verbalized. Hmmm. Learn something new every day.
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
Isn't calling someone "bitching" sort of a compliment?
Was it "bitch mom" or "bitching mom"?
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
How supremely arrogant and obnoxious.
You do know this person's mother? You can vouch for the fact she's a good person?
-Trevor
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
she said it more like bitch mom. I don't think calling your mom a bitch is a compliment, where did you hear that?
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Beren's post refers to the phrase "dude, that's a bitching ride!" and so forth.
I've never heard the phrase applied to a person, but it's not inconceivable.
-Trevor
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Bart Simpson?
And editing the title so that my first post doesn't make sense should be illegal.
Posted by J T Stryker (Member # 6300) on :
To quote my mother, "Abortion should be legal till their 21" then again, my older sisters are a tad bit out of control, good thing their over 21 and out of the house *looks at exercise room door in nastalgic thought of when mother was glued to this side, screamming "I know what that smell is, and it ain't tobacco"*
Stryker
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
"Bitchin'" is an outdated term to mean "cool." i think it started as surfer talk.
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Not really, but I know the person and she's the type to curse at anything and anyone, I didn't think whe'd curse at her mom though...I didn't think I'm part of the "kids these days" catergory, if that means cursing at your mom this way, then I'm glad I'm not. BTW, the person that said this isn't the kind of girl that has no support from her parents, so I know that partly it ain't the mom's fault. What is the mom's fault though is that she probably didn't slap her face when it needed a good slapping.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
yeah, most bad words turned good come from surfing. Bitchin', gnarly, etc.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:...I didn't think I'm part of the "kids these days" catergory, if that means cursing at your mom this way, then I'm glad I'm not.
Don't worry, Alt. With all this talk of smacking your kid 'til their butts turn blue, you're a much better fit in the "grandpas these days" category.
[ August 30, 2004, 05:43 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Uh huh.
I should have beaten my old man bloody once or twice.
Probably still will if push comes to shove.
Won't lay a hand on my mother, but that's only because I try not to hit women.
It's nice to know you wait until you have the full story before passing sentence on whether or not this person needed to be slapped.
-Trevor
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
[sarcasm on] Yes, because we all know the way to get your kids to respect you is to HIT them [sarcasm off]
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Any idiot can have children, and many idiots do. Respect is earned by correct action, not as an accidental byproduct of sex.
Posted by Magson (Member # 2300) on :
Last I checked, kids were the product of sex, not its accidental byproduct. . . . .
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
quote: yeah, most bad words turned good come from surfing. Bitchin', gnarly, etc.
Gnarly used to be a bad word? And Bitchin' is a good word? I always thought bitchin' about something means complaining about it.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Yes and no.
It all depends on the context.
"I'm bitching about my job" has a different connotation than "Dude, that's a bitching job!"
-Trevor
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
connotation is all I'm talking about. And no I'm not a grama ok.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
quote:Last I checked, kids were the product of sex, not its accidental byproduct. . . . .
Then you really, really need to read up on condoms.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm all for the knowing the situation of the kid before you pass judgement.
Especially when you're calling for the beating of ungrateful kids by their parents.
I got the crap kicked out of me and it never instilled respect in me for my parents.
Ever.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
quote: Isn't calling someone "bitching" sort of a compliment?
Was it "bitch mom" or "bitching mom"?
Depends on if you are using it as a verb or an adjective. If you are talking about what someone *does*, it is rude. If you are not inferring something that is done, and are just describing, than it is a complement.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Then you really, really need to read up on condoms.
Reproduction is the natural consequence of sex. Just because humans haven't perfected their ability to circumvent that doesn't change this fact.
Dagonee
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Hopefully before you become a parent yourself, you will have learned that spanking a child's ass "purple-red" is called abuse. I say that because you're not describing a swat; you're describing a beating.
space opera
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
I'd amend "the" to "a", Dagonee.
And also, we do have perfect birth control, it just involves (relatively minor) surgery, and isn't perfectly reversible by any means. Note: by perfect I mean all but one in millions.
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
This thread is getting out of hand. I just think that that girl needs to learn how to respect her mother. She called her mom a bitch, thats it. She didn't say it as a compliment, so I got really pissed at that. I don't care if you beat her ass red or not, there are other ways to instill punishment, I said I would beat my child if i had one because I know the kind of mother i would be and I know I wouldn't deserve to be called a bitch by my own child.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I just wish you would change the title. Ivygirl was trying to read Hatrack at home, but kept having to close it quickly because this thread was coming up top on first page, and her grandma was very nearby. She was afraid if grandma saw the thread title, she would never be allowed to look at Hatrack again...
Farmgirl
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
quote:I said I would beat my child if i had one
because I know the kind of mother i would be and I know I wouldn't deserve to be called a bitch by my own child.
Does anyone else find the two halves of this statement hard to reconcile?
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
oh, sorry, what do i change the title to? Respect your mom? Kids these days? Red butts?
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I don't know -- just anything that won't have a curse word in it....
Farmgirl
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
OH! BTW DKW. i meant that i now the kindof mother i would be even if i don't have children. For instance, I would teach them to respect their mother.
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
that better ranch girl? Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
mo' bedda, thx
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
If you beat your kid like that, I'd say as a mother, you'd be deserving of the name calling from your kid as bitch.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
I do like the color imagery in this thread.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Thank you very much, A of D!
Farmgirl, Cowgirl, Ranchgirl, whatever you want to call me
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
If you think beating your kids is the answer, I think we know why they would call you a bitch.
-Trevor
Posted by Sara Sasse (Member # 6804) on :
It can be very helpful to become aware of how angry one can be with children before one actually has them. Ideally, one uses such awareness to structure the timing of having children and the development of skills necessary to deal with that anger constructively and appropriately before one has kids.
IMHO, of course.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Especially if a parent ends up with a colicky baby that won't stop screaming. *sigh*
AJ
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Banna, you have no idea how much I wish that your friend lived closer to me, or that I had a better vehicle.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
*hugs PSI* I wish you did too. Grrr, New Mexico is so frickin far away.
AJ
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Well, when you said New Mexico, I was hoping it would be somewhere nearer to the AZ border. On a side note, I have asked my husband's grandmother for permission to use her truck in the advent of an emergency, and I'm still waiting for an answer. I can make Albuquerque in six hours if I haul booty and keep my eye open for cops. Let's see how this pans out.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
*hugs PSI*
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I'm hoping she can hang on til her mother comes out this weekend.
AJ
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
So does it look like Mom will be coming after all?
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Yep. I say anyone who would beat their kids DEFINATLEY deserves to be called a bitch, or worse. As in, "I am reporting that bitch to CPS". (I am a mandated reporter,and have had to do that three rimes in my career).
You can teach a kid to obey you by hitting them. You can surely make them be careful about where they call you names. Respect? Never.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Don't know, I haven't yet talked to her today. I normally call her on my way home from work.
AJ
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
This thread still really bugs me. Just the idea of someone from my generation ADOVCATING child abuse to command respect from a child. Posted by Gryphonesse (Member # 6651) on :
abuse never earns respect - it only engenders fear and anger. All mothers are not perfect, and some manage to screw up on fantastical levels with one kid while spending all the love and affection on the other. This I know for a fact. My mother should be committed. It's a plain and simple miracle that I'm not as nutty as she is, and I can only hope my sister sees the light.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Alrl, I think you need to remember that most people actively dislike, if not hate, their parents as part of growing up. It is perfectly normal and natural for a child to be resentful, and even think her mother is a bitch. If the girl was calling her mom a bitch to her face, there would be more cause for concern about disrespect. Overhearing her talk about it at school? Maybe they had a fight last night, or the daughter doesn't like how strict the mom is being, or a hundred other possible things, and she's venting about it to her friends. Maybe this is her way of rebelling. Maybe she's trying to look cool, and treats her mother with utmost respect in person.
Or maybe her mother really is a bitch. As several people have posted in various threads recently, even if the family looks okay to you from the outside, you never know quite what's going on inside. Not everyone has kind and loving parents.
Regardless, if a child hasn't learned respect by that age, or if the parent doesn't deserve respect, spanking isn't going to do a darn bit of good. I am not against all forms of corporal punishment... I can remember 3 times it was applied to me, one of which I unquestioningly deserved, one of which was a "for your own good" that did not have the effect intended, and one of which I'd argue to this day was silly, but was effective and probably seemed necessary at the time. And I think from your post that you used the "Spank his/her ass purple-red" comment mainly as a figure of speech. But it sure looks, as I have no doubt you've figured out by now, like you're advocating child abuse.
Anyway... it's quite likely that the girl you heard, if she is in a stage where she hates her parents, will grow out of it. She will mature, and she will laugh and feel kinda ashamed about how she acted at this age. Whereas if her mom reacted like you think is proper, the daughter will probably continue hating and resenting her. Rightfully so.
Teenagers have volatile reactions to things. Perhaps you should look at your reaction to what you overheard, and how people are responding to it, in that light.
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