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Posted by Anthro (Member # 6087) on :
 
I just read Cat's Cradle, and now I know where your name comes from!

That's pretty much it. *twiddles thumbs and looks at post count hopefully for the fluff effect*
 
Posted by cyruseh (Member # 1120) on :
 
hehe, ive seen this post before...
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
I love bokonism. And bokonon.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Bokononism, Stormy. Bokononism. And I love you too, but not as much as the moon...

Now I digress.

Anthro: Glad you checked it out. Did you like it, hate it, convert? [Wink]

-Bok
 
Posted by Anthro (Member # 6087) on :
 
All three, really. I'd just finished Slaughterhouse Five when I got Cat's Cradle. I'm on a Vonnegut spree right now.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Check out Jailbird next.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Mother Night is better [Smile]

Did you like SH-5 more than CC? SH-5 is certainly the more famous book...

-Bok
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
I need to read Vonnegut... about 20 people have already told me to read CC!
 
Posted by cyruseh (Member # 1120) on :
 
Ive wanted to get around to reading some of his stuff, but the only thing i ever read was 'dead eye dick'. I remember clearly, I was in the 8th grade (about 10 years ago), and our english teacher had a bunch of paperbacks that you could borrow to read. dead eye dick never made it back to that room... it has a new home on my bookshelf [Smile]
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I think that Cat's Cradle is probably my favorite of his books. Slaughterhouse Five is quite good, but it doesn't hold a candle to Cat's Cradle. I have to admit, I've started Sirens of Titan quite a few times, but have never been able to get into it. It's been a few years though; maybe I should give it another try.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Sirens is weird; it is rather early, but definitely foreshadows a lot of his late-60s/early-70s work. I just don't think he had a strong idea of the plot, and so it meanders.

I chalk it up to the learning process... His other novel of the 50s, Player Piano, is much more interesting, in part because he understood the mindset, having recently been employed by the types of people he writes about, as well as following a variation on the plot of Brave New World.

But in 62/63, he put out Mother Night and Cat's Cradle, his two best works, in my opinion.

-Bok
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Now, see, I *love* God Bless You Mr. Rosewater. Great book. I agree with you that Mother Night is incredible, btw. If people here haven't read it, they're really missing out. Fantastic book.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
What do you think of Dead Eye Dick and Bluebeard, Bok?
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
You know, though, much as I enjoy Vonnegut's books, I think I like his essays even better. I have all of his essay collections, and have read them a number of times. In fact, I think I may be about due for a reread of them.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
GBY,MR is one that's really grown on me... The liittle address to newborns is awesome. Plus the concept of altruism as a disease. [Smile]

I like Bluebeard alot... I haven't read DED *gasp*

The problem I've had is that there is always a metaplot in his novels, which evolves over time, but in some of the novels, once you've read a few of his books, it becomes redundant, so I haven't read all his later books, with some exceptions.

I've read:
TimeQuake
Galapagos
Bluebeard
GBY,MR
Slapstick
Jailbird
SH-5
Breakfast of Champions
Player Piano
Cat's Cradle
Sirens
Mother Night
Player Piano

Plus: Welcome to the Monkeyhouse (short stories), the Keveorkian book, and a couple of the essay/interview books.

-Bok
 
Posted by Danzig avoiding landmarks (Member # 6792) on :
 
I have only read Breakfast of Champions. I opened it in the middle, and to my then-confused mind it seemed like a parody of a romance novel.

It sufficiently intrigued me to buy and read the whole thing the next day, though.
 
Posted by Anthro (Member # 6087) on :
 
I prefer Cat's Cradle. I'm not quite sure why people call Kurt Vonnegut a humorist, unless I've read the wrong two books.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
He's a black humorist, or satirist, if you prefer. I haven't read a single book of his that hasn't been a comedy (and hasn't had parts that I found funny), if if it's about the world ending (which is in more than a couple).

A lot of it is ironic humor, dark stuff, but it's clear to me he is a humorist of a type.

-Bok
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
I have never read Vonnegut.(sorry)

But who is Kazak? That is what our dog's name was. I got him when he was a pup, but he had already been named after a Vonnegut character.

(I know Kazakhstan is a place in real life)
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Shamefully, I had forgotten, but here is a more-than-you-wanted-to-know explaination:

http://pweb.jps.net/~tgangale/mars/other/vonnegut-ekman.htm

Basically, it was the name of a character's dog in a Vonnegut book.

-Bok
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
That's right, I remember now that he was a time traveling dog!

Funny(and sad for me), because I think of time in terms of Kazak. I miss him terribly.
 


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