So, I went downtown to see my brother and his wife who were in town sans kids to attend DragonCon. Ate at Everybody's Pizza then lurked in various lobbies to scope the costumes. It was a family-friendly time of day and the boys had fun gawking at their favorite super heroes and various Star Wars, LotR and Anime costumes.
Fishnet may say "one size fits all" but that doesn't mean it's a good idea for some people to wear it. Still, there was nothing salacious, though one wonders why women that large would WANT to dress like the schoolgirl with the mace from KILL BILL. *shrug*
AAAANYWAY... We should do the WenchCon thing again, maybe add a dash of Anime, since many of the core Wenches are now Anime-ted.
What do you think? Should we use MLK day again, or wait until later in the spring? I think this year I might even be able to set up a dealers' room, if I have enough time. Does that sound like fun?
Throw out ideas about what you think would be fun:
Costuming, karaoke, invading a restaurant or mall in costume...
The floor is open. Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Where is this held? I think you should hold it in Boston so I can go ^^. And we should watch Miyazaki movies all day long and disturbing anime movies! And go to a fairly high brow resturant dressed like Gundams or something.
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
If the floor is open, won't you fall through it? Why can't any of these gatherings happen in Arizona, or at least close to it? Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
Okay then. It has been Atlanta (or close, anyway) the last two times. If we want to move it somebody else will have to organize it.
To those who attended previous WenchCons: Same hotel or not? I think the MLK weekend is the best time to get the cheapest deals on the hotel meeting rooms, etc. Should we go for two meeting rooms, with one showing movies and one with other activities? More fencing, anyone (now that Jamie has been taking classes and can cut us all up blindfolded)?
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Oh this is so tempting! I wonder how broke I'll be that soon after Christmas...
space opera
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
I would definitely consider coming back to the same place, cause it's within driving distance for me.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I'm game.
If not Atlanta, how about D.C.?
Posted by Stark (Member # 6831) on :
Being relatively new here I don't know exactly what wenchcon is (probably a gaming/faire/fandom thing) but I have to say that it has the best name out of anything, ever. Where and when is it???
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
*remembers Noah wanting a Con in D.C.*
*is pretty sure she won't come to the next Wenchcon*
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:Why can't any of these gatherings happen in Arizona, or at least close to it?
Yeah!
Punks. Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
Olivetta: Laterinthespring!
Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
Actually, I'd prefer later in the year this time, too.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
DC has a wide variety of meeting venues, lots of museums to go to in costume, 3 airports, 2 budget airlines, and trains from the Northeast.
Dagonee *No ulterior motive to see here. Move along.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
atlanta is easy for us. i will come if only to mock you all (and to pick up women, of course). damn nerds.
and olivia, for the love of God, is your entire family bred into geekdom?!
[ September 06, 2004, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: Ben ]
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I wanna come!!! But I don't know... My parents probably wouldn't be too keen on me going on a road trip alone to the south... :/ Hmmm... Must think on't. Mayhap one of the fine people in the Williams family will go and oblige me by dragging me along. We shall see.
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
Just about anytime till september is bad for me, if things work out like i want. You guys go ahead and plan, and i'll do my best to make it.
Ni!
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
:giggle: Ryuko, Atlanta is a 17 hour drive. I'm thinking an airplane would be a good idea. But for me it totally depends on when it is... if people want to do it in the spring, I will be otherwise occupied in Iowa. (So will you.)
Anyway, we'll see how the plans shake out...
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
All I know is that I plan to be in Georgia the last week of October for the Savannah Film Fest. Apart from that, who knows when I'll be able to get back down there.
But you better believe I'll try and make it whenever it is...
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
*waits patiently to find out the "when"*
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
quote: And go to a fairly high brow resturant dressed like Gundams or something.
Best Mental Picture Ever.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
I'm cool with anywhere, but I only feel comfortable making the arrangements here in Atlanta. If DC looks good to lots of folks, we'll need a DC person to find a hotel, etc.
I also think it would be best to have an Event Planner to make the schedule ahead of time. Jenny G would be ideal for this, but only if she's willing. Schedules are not my bag.
Ben, we're into the geeky stuff because of my brother, mainly. He started a Starfleet thingy and piad the whole families' memberships to get his quota (even my mom helped make costumes and stuff, at one point). Anyway, shut up, you dork.
About later in the spring... I think hotel rates may go up around here sometimes in March. The weather at that time should be fairly mild, though.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think the Gathering later in the spring is going to be in Iowa for The Wedding. I still like the idea of January for WenchCon, but I'm flexible.
Olivia, if WenchCon was in D.C., could you come?
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
:/ I dunno. January? Is there going to be a Summer con? Could we move WenchCon a summerin'?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think the cons are becoming more frequent. I have no doubt that a summer con will be planned at the The Wedding.
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
You mean there was a gathering in Atlanta and I missed it? Just damn. . . I always miss the fun stuff. Oh well, I hope everyone made it home all right. ATL was no fun to be near today. Sigh...maybe next time...
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
You and me both Jess.
Although I got to spend six hours trying to coordinate picking up a great-aunt at the airport through the Frances cast-off.
-Trevor
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
Ewww..you poor guy. I hate the airport!
Did the storm mess you up too bad? We got lots of wind and rain but no major or minor damage.
For those of you who left our humble burg yesterday, you missed a real blow out.
Oh, Trevor, you count as a wench?
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Actually, the traffic was amazingly light - apparently everyone decided to sit today out.
Which is just fine - Atlanta traffic and rain just don't mix.
Am I a wench? Nah - but a pretty girl can always throw a wench in my plans.
-Trevor
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
lol a 'wench' in his plans, that's bad.
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
You are shameless!
I noticed the lack of traffic tonight as I drove to school (KSU). A trip that normally takes me around 45 minutes took only about 30 minutes today. I didn't even have to sit in line at Chastain Road.
Any type of bad weather doesn't mix well with ATL traffic. I love ATL but...not all the cars.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Ah, Atlanta - where driving is a contact sport.
At least I didn't say, "throw a wench in my pants."
-Trevor
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
That would have been...uh...embarrasing.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I dunno - it would have been a gut-wenching experience, to be sure.
-Trevor
Posted by Jess N (Member # 6744) on :
It's getting late and my mind is getting too tired to keep up with your pun-ish-ing humor.
I can laugh but I can't get enough gear to respond in kind.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
I am more likely to be able to attend Wenchcon III if it is in Atlanta, as that is driving distance for me. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote:I think the Gathering later in the spring is going to be in Iowa for The Wedding.
Incidentally, Dana already sent me the T-shirt design. Just so ya know. Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
KSU!?! I live Just north of Kennesaw, in a sleepy hamlet called Towne Lake (technically part of Woodstock, even though it has its own zip code). I may be taking some continuing education courses at KSU very soon.
BTW, the last WenchCon was held at the Winngate Inn on Barret parkway. We saw RotK at Barret Commons (or... MANY of us did). It was kind of Lotr-ish con, that grew out of the Wenche's Tavern threads. They were very amusing for some time, but have mostly faded away, naturally.
Anybody want to post some links to Wenche's Tavern threads or discussions of the WenchCons I and II? I'd be much obliged, and It will give folks an idea what to expect. Also, Makillian has some amazing pics from the last one on her Mad Owl site.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
This was so much fun. Life-changing in a few ways, too.
[ September 08, 2004, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by CalvinMaker (Member # 2032) on :
*Would be willing to plan a D.C. con*
Posted by Lime (Member # 1707) on :
Later in the spring would probably be best for Vána (and possibly myself) - the more time we have to plan the finances, the better.
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
When is _very_ important for me...probably moreso than where, since the chances of convincing you all to come to New Orleans are very slim, I'm sure.
Later in the spring gets my vote; I go to Cannes again in January, and I can't have two trips that close together.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
*Points out that Vána is one of the people whose attendance in Iowa in April is not optional*
So just make sure “later in the spring” does not interfere with her musical responsibilities. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Later in the spring is already spoken for. Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
How's a guy supposed to make a vacation schedule without knowing when and where all the wenches will be?
My vote's for either the first week in February or the last to coincide with my Boston-New Orleans (or the other way around) roadtrip. .
Or we could do it in Boston around the time of Boskone and drop in and see OSC and George Martin. (But I'm biased--I'm planning on being there, anyway. )
January's only a month away! And February's....*counts on fingers*...only...two months away!
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
BtL, we need a Cana-Con.
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
quote:Or we could do it in Boston around the time of Boskone and drop in and see OSC and George Martin.
asdgkweongviko.... I WANNA GO!!!
I am SO going to go to a con attended by GRRM someday. The next Worldcon would be lovely, as I hear Ran may attend, and it would be awesome to meet the master of ASOAIF triva as well, but really, any con would be good, though one with a big presence of the BwB would be lovely. I need to meet him! *starts saving pennies*
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
There is a henna party that weekend in February. There were rumblings about TMMedina and Olivette organizing something in Atlanta, but I don't know if she's up to it right now. If Atlanta won't work, I still like the idea of D.C.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Boskone sounds like a really cool idea though....does everyone who wants to attend have to registrer or is there a daily fee we could pay? If I go JenniK will want to go and $84 si a pretty steep price to go say hi to OSC for a total of 2 min, if you know what I mean....
Kwea
Posted by raventh1 (Member # 3750) on :
I'm interested, but not sure about my plans either, but I could probably go any time, with the exception of around the release of Serenity, I'm busy. Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
i'd be down if it was in atlanta, if for no other reason than i heard it's a good place to pickup chicks.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
What is Boskone?
Added: Never mind - I saw the link.
quote:Boskone is a regional Science Fiction convention focusing on literature, art, music, and gaming (with just a dash of whimsy). Come join us on common ground.
Hmm...that does sound like us.
[ December 03, 2004, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I wanna meet Hatrackers! If it's in Atlanta, I can probably find a cheap fare there from DFW if anyone is willing to pick me up once I get there. Oh, and if we decide on the date pretty soon. And if no one minds babies. (I will so make her a costume, too.)
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
The Wingate was great place to do a Con. I'm all for it MLK weekend. Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
stupid people
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*hugs*
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Katie
I'm coming back. Maybe even next summer.
/derailment
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Really? To see anyone on this board or for other reasons?
Hobbes Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Huh?
I wanna visit Katie. And AJ. And celia. Though they don't know it yet.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
No one can go without the tender affection of Bok for very long.
Its just so quaint of him. Err, me.
-Bok
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
See, now you've gone and hurt my feelings, Kama.
Who will supply me with free Polish brews now??
-Bok
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Yay!!!!! *cheers*
I will be in Europe in August. It would be horribly ironic to be there while you are here. We must plan. Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Bok, you can always come and visit.
I, erm, *was* thinking August, kat. We do indeed have to plan.
*is very very sorry for the thread derailment*
[ December 03, 2004, 02:27 PM: Message edited by: Kama ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
One good thing about being a stay-home mom of an infant: we can take off any time. (As long as I get enough notice to find cheap airfare, that is.) Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
quote: I, erm, *was* thinking August
No more Kama-parties on my birthday. Iffin' it's going to be August, don't make it the 13th.
With that taken care of, yay! More Kama!
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
hey ElJay, you can have a party on my birthday Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Hmmmmmm. When's your birthday? And do I have to come to Poland first?
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
21 September. You don't need to come to Poland, though I'd be extremely happy if you did.
Make sure to invite some hot men and have them undress for you. And send me the pics.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I'll send you something when I get home tonight. Your address is in your profile, right?
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Yup.
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
quote:The Wingate was great place to do a Con.
Yeah, it was. I found it quite comfortable.
I would love to come to the next WenchCon, or whatever big con we have. If it's in January, though, it would be very iffy I could make it due to finances. I really need more advance notice in order to save up for a vacation.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
We could do it again on president's day weekend, maybe. That is in February. March and April are , like, full of weddings and stuff, and after that the hotel rates go up.
I could throw somthing together, but I can't cater lunch. If we have people with Sabbath issues, I'll make sure you get food that won't compromise the requirments of your faith. But making food for 20+ people is NOT happening. Sorry.
YOu know, there ARE two couples who are now engaged who met at last year's WenchCon. I guess it is a good place to meet chicks. Er, wenches. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
President's Day weekend is dkw's pre-wedding henna party in Minneapolis... just a reminder for those who were planning on joining us. (All Hatrack females are invited.)
Posted by MaydayDesiax (Member # 5012) on :
Curse school! ::shakes fist:: I'd be able to go if it was in the summer, but ah well. Here's to Kamacon II!
On another note, I might be flying up to Wisconsion over my spring break... Maybe we could have a quick dinner get-together again?
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
I didn't realize it was the same weekend. I haven't made any calls or anything, so it's no big.
Any ideas, anybody?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Dammit. I dunno, take a poll maybe of the two options? Or create a third option as well, and THEN poll?
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I think it's the same weekend. The party is the 19th... isn't President's ay 2/21?
Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
I'm sooo up for a Road Trip for any Midwesterners...
The last place was just fine. I still like MLK Jr. weekend, but whatever works out the best. It's very nice to have a 3-day weekend, especially for those of us who have to drive long distances. But I am so there!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
YEAY!
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Both fun things on the same weekend. Wait - it's the same weekend as the conference.
ALL THREE FUN THINGS ON THE SAME WEEKEND??
That's not good. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
katie doll, Jenny-G said MLK weekend... that's the one in January, not in February. The Henna party only conflicts with the silly Boston thing.
Although WenchCon doesn't seem settled yet...
Posted by raventh1 (Member # 3750) on :
Oh, and recommendations for this year, DON'T FLY STANDBY OK.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
No e-mail from ElJay. Did she not send or is my e-mail being weird again?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
What do you mean, "Again?" That would imply that at some point, ElJay stopped being weird.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Another reccomendation: If you are going to be late, tell the person who is picking you up.
Oh, gotcha. Well, that's slightly better. Still bad, though.
*rifles through couch for pennies*
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
I might be able to get off work for MLK weekend, but I don't think I can afford to pay for hotel rooms and stuff.
I miss you guys! I want to GO!
Ni!
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Sorry Kama, I got distracted last night. Mail is on its way. Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Ummm, I can't open it. Is that supposed to be a .dat file?
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Hmmmmm.... lemme try again...
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
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Wow....ELJay didn't waste any time getting those naked pics, huh?
I knew I liked her for a reason....
[ December 04, 2004, 12:36 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Ya know, Kwea, given your supposition, you missed a lot more amusing quote with:
quote:Sorry Kama, I got distracted last night.
When I didn't actually send it to her until this morning.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
I've got a DLP projector and as many Miyazaki films and LOR films as are available on DVD. Unfortunately, my favorite chicken packing plant in South Georgia is demanding my presence before the end of 2004 and cannot put it off until MLK weekend.
Does anybody know if Oriental Trading Company sells a troll costume?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
kwsni, I'm sure there are more people than me who are planning to find someone to share a hotel room with-- it'll help cut costs.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
If I remember the events leading up to KamaCon correctly, someone circulated an email list of people interested in sharing hotel rooms along with personal preferences (non-smoker, smoker, etc.)
I suspect once the date for WenchConIII is confirmed and planning begins in earnest, another list will be circulated.
Failing that, you could go ahead and post a notice for hotel roommates on this thread.
-Trevor
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
Aw, skillery, you're killing me! I wish I could get a digital projector. I'm just thinking that maybe it's just too late for people to make travel arrangements...
Trevor, do you know of any decent but inexpensive hotels we could use? Otherwise I could just talk to the lady at the WinGate Inn in Kennesaw (off Barret Parkway).
We just need to decide on a date, and go from there, I guess.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Cheap hotels that I know of? What kind of person do you think I am?
Seriously, I don't know of any personally, but I can make a list with location, prices and etc.
What specifics do you want in a hotel? I can narrow it down from there.
-Trevor
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Come to think of it, there is a hotel on Peachtree Industrial, north of 285 - the room rates were quite reasonable, although I don't know about dining/ball room numbers.
If you'd like, I can pull up the location and rate information tomorrow.
-Trevor
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
<3_<3
That would be great! Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote: I wanna visit Katie. And AJ. And celia. Though they don't know it yet.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
That's okay, rivka, she doesn't want to come see me, either. Even though I sent her nekkid pictures. *sigh*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*sniffle* I know, but I thought we had shared something special!
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*offers ice cream*
This is not a good night. Broken hearts are littering the floor around here.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
I *want* to come see everyone I met and more people. But I *can't* take a year off work. Unless someone wants to marry me and bring me to America?
quote: I know, but I thought we had shared something special!
Please, I thought that shower we took was supposed to be our secret
[ December 05, 2004, 06:30 AM: Message edited by: Kama ]
Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
Can I be first in the I want to marry Kama and bring her to America line?
--ApostleRadio
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
[ December 05, 2004, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: Kama ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Wow, it's less than a hundred bucks. You're sellin' yourself pretty cheap, Kama. Don't you want to hold out for the thousand-dollar ring?
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
My maintenance is pretty expensive. I thought I'd let them buy a cheap ring so they can afford whatever comes next.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Hah! Gotta love truth in advertising.
Although it is a very elegant ring.
Olive - I'm going to be in the office for most of the afternoon, but I'll take a break and run by the place I'm thinking of.
I should have the details to post by early evening.
-Trevor
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
cool.
Ben and Lindsay were here for a visit this weekend. Since they met at WenchCon II, the were very encouraging about wanting me to do it again (though Ben called it "Nerdfest"). The even volunteered to help out.
So, what do you guys think about doing it in March? The wedding is in April, right? I'm thinking March would be out of the way of other events but still be considered the 'off season' by hotels.
Whaddaya think?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I think Olivia needs to IM me.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think March is much better than January - January is too soon for a lot of people. The end of March would be almost two months after the wedding. Great idea.
Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
Kama, you totally have a deal. Come on over to America and I will buy you that ring to marry you.
--ApostleRadio
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
After the wedding? Bobndana are in April.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
My statement is true if you, like my brain, substitue May for March.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*snort* However, IRL, early- to mid-March might be preferred, since BobNDanaCon is the first weekend in April.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm IN a wedding on March 19 in Georgia.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Prolix, the least you could do is buy the ring and have it delivered to her. Be spontaneous and surprise her - women like that.
Of course, they also like TROs against stalkers.
I checked three hotels in the immediate vicinity of where I was thinking (Peachtree Industrial and Holcomb Bridge Road) - I'll have to call Monday and get price quotes. The Hilton had a one bedroom going for $70ish a night, but I'm not sure how we're defining cheap.
All three places: Marriot, Hilton and Holiday Inn mentioned the possibility of a group discount for a convention, so that is a possibility.
There's also a nice-ish hotel in downtown Decatur - walking distance to the Decatur Square courtyard with funky little stores and eateries.
I'll call them and see what their average two-bedroom rate is for the weekend.
-Trevor
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Ok, the Holiday Inn in Decatur has a two-bed room for $104 a night, which makes it $52 a person.
If you belong to AAA, you might be able to get a discount on that.
Depending on what kind of numbers we're aiming for, I can call their sales department tomorrow and see if we can get an additional discount for a package-convention deal.
-Trevor
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Check how many people are allowed to sleep in the two-bed room, its often 3 or 4 or more.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Ya know, that thought had not even occured to me.
I'll add that to the list of questions for the sales staff tomorrow.
-Trevor
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
i worked in hotels for 5 years. almost all major chains (hilton excluded) and not once did i ask or care, none of us did, how many people were in a room. unless they were causing trouble then i threw the firecode book at them. as for AAA. as long as you tell the clerk you belong to AAA in the reservation they will book it at the AAA rate and then not check at the desk.
oh the deception!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
March will work! *just spent $150 on fabric for new garb to wear for wenchcon (including several outfits for her and several for the baby)*
*intends to wear it other places, too, just so you all don't worry*
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
Oh, sure. Move it farther into foaling season. I'm not going to get to go, now. ::sniff::
Ni!
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Sorry, we didn't mean to foal up.
Olive, how many people came to WenchCon the last time? How many rooms were rented? And what is the target price for a hotel room?
-Trevor
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Where is this all happening again?
Kama, $99 is too cheap even for a simple downpayment.
Let alone for services rendered...even if you do have to say airfare not included. Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
At the moment we're exploring Atlanta or the immediate vicinity thereof.
And while you can never put a price on love, it really is a nice ring.
-Trevor
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
If 3 or 4 people are in a room, though, sometimes people have to double up on beds, and trying to fit 4 people in 2 double beds can be a bit much, when they're not family.
Plus, anyone who shares with me will have to put up with tripping over a playpen/portacrib. Just some things to consider.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
People don't actually sleep at these gatherings. Maybe for a few hours, but not necessarily at night, basaically just whenever their bodies collapse. We could probably have 5 people to two beds without ever having a real conflict.
Hobbes Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
We also tended to sleep in shifts.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
It's a lot like coal mining.
Hobbes Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Not to mention many of us sleep on the floor. Personally, I like sleeping on the floor.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Weirdo.
Posted by raventh1 (Member # 3750) on :
Oh man if I come DO NOT let me have any Bawls this time OK?! I'm actually feeling pretty sick right now like I did at Wenchcon II. Yay for staying up 30-50 hours with 1 hour sleep, and a whole lotta caffiene.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
OK, but do you want wood for some ore?
Hobbes Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Hobbes, I've found that more revelry gets done better if you get a few hours here and there. Especially if there's a fairly organized "down time" and everyone does something to relax, be it tv watching or sleep or a bath or whatever. Granted, it does tend to be a few hours here and there, and it's rarely in the night (unless you count 5 am as night because it's still dark), but still, I'm all for those who want beds being able to afford them.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Nobody seemed to have any problems with squishing at least 4 people into a 2 bed room at KamaCon. KetchupQueen, you can request not to share a room with that many people, as long as you and your roommate(s) are ok with paying more.
space opera
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Kama and I slept in the same bed at KamaCon, and that worked out fine. There was also lots of sleeping in shifts and on the floor.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Gah. I forgot to add that I'm interested in attending, however, I won't really know till after the first of the year. I'd need to catch a ride with someone if possible (I'd happily pay 50 percent of the gas money) 'cause my car is named "Old Blue" for a reason.
space opera
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Space Opera, I need to stress that I don't have a problem with sharing a bed or anything; I just really think we do need to keep it as reasonable as possible. I can't afford too much, and I have constraints on how much I'm going to be in and out, since I do have a baby who will be coming with me.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
<-- is just one of 2 people who slept with Katie at KamaCon Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
But you saw more action. Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
::starts to comment, thinks better of it::
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
quote: 5 people to two beds
That rules out pizza with anchovies.
Butterbeans anyone?
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
Last year we has around 22-25 people, some of them not sleeping at the hotel(and some with rooms didn't even sleep there, so whatever).
It came out to about $75.00 per room per night, after tax was added, and the meeting rooms were $50.00 per day. That was in the 'burbs. I bet if we went further north, it would be even cheaper.
Anyway, that was last year's pricing.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Hmmm... *starts saving her pennies*
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
i say it gets hosted in Olivia's living room!
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
March is more doable for me than January, as I would have more time to save money. Also, I was getting nervous about another Con in January, as last year I missed my nephews' birthday party due to WenchCon II. I really didn't want to miss their birthdays two years in a row, especially since I don't get to see them that often.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
If we do this in March and I find someway to go, which I'm not sure I'll be able to do but will certainly try, I will be seeing Hatrackers every month for four months in a row. That's kinda cool/scary. Oh, and that's assuming I get to meet maui babe while I'm there in January.
Considering all the other travel I'm doing this winter/spring, however, and that I'm trying to save for a motorcycle, it's kinda unlikely I'll make it. Unless I get a really big tax return... Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
How far north are you thinking?
I'm not sure what we want to define as "acceptable distance from Atlanta."
-Trevor
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Close eneough so that we'll still all be killed in a tactical nuclear strike.
Hobbes Posted by CalvinMaker (Member # 2032) on :
So is D.C. not an option anymore? I could still plan it, especially considering I'm have winter break from December 19th to February 6th.
It's been mentioned before, but there are 3 major airports, easy and affordable public transportation all around the city, massive amounts of hotels to stay in, tons of museums to go to, and events and such to do all the time You name it. Movies, Dancing, Sports, and just about anything else you can imagine. There's also a very large amount of hatrackers in the D.C. area.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'll be in Gainesville the weekend of March 19. If I don't show, the bride has threatened me with death. She's a paramedic in Atlanta, so I take that threat very seriously.
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
I vote Dee See!
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
I'm not going so I really don't get a vote but D.C. is an awesome city for conventions!
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I would LOVE to go to D.C.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
In my mind, since WenchCon was started and continued by Olivetta, she has right of first refusal. So if she and T are up to organizing it, which it sounds like they are, Atlanta it is.
Now, I think a DC Con would also be fabulous... CM, Kama said something about coming back in August... talk to her and see if maybe KamaCon II can be DC-based. That would be cool.
Edit: So, I realize this was awfully presumptive sounding for someone who just said she isn't sure if she can come. Please know that the "In my mind...." was meant to imply "My vote is for...because..." and not to say "I think this is right, so it is what we must do."
[ December 06, 2004, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: ElJay ]
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
I can know nothing for sure just yet... but that would be fun!
edit: *when* is kat in Europe?
[ December 06, 2004, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: Kama ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I want to go to Spain with my brother, and we talked about August, but I'm not sure exactly when. He'll be home December 22, and we are going to hammer out the details in January, I think.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
The hotel in Decatur is $109 for a "two bedded suite" and I get the impression I'm going to have to go down to the hotel to check on the type of meeting room and price.
If we get 30 rooms rented for the convention, we get the weekday rate of $89.
I think we need to get a couple lists going - how many people plan on attending and have a stated preference (for whatever reason) for Atlanta or DC.
If only five people can easily make Atlanta and twenty people can make DC, that may determine the feasibility of location.
-Trevor
Edit: For clarity
[ December 06, 2004, 05:23 PM: Message edited by: TMedina ]
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
*if* nothing happens, and I'm able to visit next year, late August/early September might be most comfortable for me. With at least a week in August. I think.
A very very tentative "if".
Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
Whenever, wherever, I'm going. And I'll bring COSTUMES!!!!
I cannot wait to see my fellow Wenches again
Make it so all our Founders can go, please: Olivia, Belle, kwsni, Sara, et al (I have by no means mentioned them all).
All Wenches and Honorary Wenches are invited. But remember: The Wenches are for the Fellowship! So you may look, but not touch.
Jenny's Sexy Boots will be packed, so all you Wenches with Sexy Boots, pack yours too. We'll take Wench pix.
Ideas for activities: Act out scenes from the movie, play with swords, dance, sing, eat, play with action figures... Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Incidently, we had 50 people at KamaCon, and I think about 15 rooms. The rooms were $89/night... here's the hotel info link, if you want to see what a flippin' bother AJ went through to get people to make their reservations. But unless this is going to be a way bigger Con, I don't think you're going to hit 30 rooms.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
ATLANTA ATLANTA ATLANTA!!!!
and what, Lindsay and i are not part of the planning committee? i thought i was full of good ideas, like my most recent one. host it in olivia's living room i tell you!
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
They DO have an xbox.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
*snicker* We could just find a hotel near the Olive stronghold and use their living room in lieu of the convention room.
I'll go ahead and scratch this place off the list - it sounds like we need to find a place that has cheap convention rooms and then worry about the hotel rooms.
-Trevor
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
The cool ones are the ones where the convention rooms get cheaper/free if you sign up enough rooms. Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
actually i dont see why we are considering other places when the wingate was great. good location, good food within walking, even a bookstore, yo! look into that.
that is all...
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I don't object - I think that was going to be Olive's standby anyway.
-Trevor
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
The Wingate really was great.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Atlanta would be my preference...
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Having been to my share of conventions, gatherings, and family reunions, things that count in my mind are:
-food within an acceptable walking distance-- and at an acceptable price! -easy accessibility to good public transportation that goes to places we might want to sightsee -an airport shuttle really helps -cheap enough that you aren't worrying it's not worth what you spent the whole time you're there (even though you know it's always worth it to see friends)
Other than that, I'm open to pretty much anything, but I would really prefer Atlanta, since I probably can't afford DC.
*goes off to do research on hotels*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
The Wingate has room for fencing.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
Jamie is your honorary Airport shuttle.
booyah!
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Atlanta doesn't have much by way of things to site-see, but we can probably muster something for those of you wanting a tour or something other than freaking the normals while dressed in costumes.
-Trevor
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Assuming, of course, they can get your head screwed back on properly Mack.
-Trevor
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I can actually shuttle folks this time. I'll be 25 and able to rent an SUV...so, more folks who can ride in...my ride, including T_Smith in the trunk.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Airport shuttle!!!
Seriously, I think any hotel we are in needs an airport shuttle. Without one, the arriving day and the leaving day are horrid for the people who live there. The fun things we can arrange transportation for, but airport --> hotel --> airport needs to NOT be dependent on the car people. For KamaCon, AJ spend two solid days at the airport. There's got to be a way to avoid that.
quote:food within an acceptable walking distance
Sure, there's food near the Wingate, but why walk when you can two highways instead?
[ December 06, 2004, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Trevor, that's provided that it was ever screwed on properly in the FIRST place.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
sight seeing? maybe not.
attractions? hells yeas:
Center For Puppetry Arts
Dad's Garage (dirt cheap improv... by george i WILL get a group together this go around)
Agatha's (mystery dinner theater)
any much much more...nerds.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
there is the AAA Airport Express shuttle...
runs hourly.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
To the Wingate? Free?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Okay, so it's not "sightseeing" per se, but anyway, things that some of us might want to do in small groups instead of all together is what I was talking about.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Gah - I hated Agatha's.
Garage was fun.
The Art Museum is always a safe way to waste a couple of hours.
Considering the number of geeks, we have to pencil in Oxford Comics.
-Trevor
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
There are at least 347 hotels and 41 motels (not counting some seperate locations that are chains) in the Atlanta area. Does someone want to help me narrow down what area I should be looking in before I start calling people and asking about convention rates? (Not that I'd do it tonight, but tomorrow is another day.)
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
no. the shuttle costs. but hey, you have enough people to drive you. dont sweat transport at this point.
Olivia has a huge vehicle that fits 68 people. and her oldest son volunteered to drive.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
It depends on how long it is. TWo days, and we really don't leave the hotel much. More than that, and people can plan outings. The funnest times are when everyone is together, though. We have to make sure the conference room is big enough for everyone to be in there comfortably and still some floor space for dancing and fencing.
---
I know people are able to drive, but anything over about fifteen people means half a dozen trips to the airport. If the shuttle costs five dollars or less, then that's okay. If it's more, then maybe a hotel with an airport shuttle?
That way Olivia can play and think about people instead of everyone's schedules.
[ December 06, 2004, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Mack, without consulting your cargo passenger, I suspect you were able to lift your head off your pillow at some point.
I don't mind tossing my two bits in for chauffer duties. I don't know that I'd be able to rent a car for the weekend, but I do have what technically passes for a sedan.
-Trevor
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I wouldn't worry about it Ketchup - it sounds like the Wingate is receiving the popular vote, unless anyone has a compelling reason why we should look elsewhere.
-Trevor
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
But the rest of my head is screwy.
Trevor, I rented from Enterprise and was 24 at the time...and it wasn't outrageously expensive.
Holy crap, I just realized I turn 25 next month. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Question: do we want this to coincide with spring break for most people? It might be a little more expensive, but then sometimes you can find deals, and more people might be able to stay longer. How much is that worth?
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
considering the # of geeks, AND freaks, we need to work in little 5 as well i suppose. i can always pick up some musical goodness at Criminal...
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Heh.
I'll be 31 by the time this kicks off, but I can't swear as to my finances since I may be changing jobs in the near-ish future.
Screwy or not, the shoulder-neck connection did have a passing familiarity with normal function, yes?
-Trevor
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
we have a new 4 door saturn we could move people from the airport with... man i cant believe i'm talking about planning this nerdfest.
PANDELERIUM!!
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Criminal Records and Tower Records - skirting Buckhead traffic shouldn't be too problematic.
-Trevor
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I didn't realize you were a native Ben - who else thinks they can volunteer for chauffer duties?
-Trevor
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Just reiterating how cool DC is for conventions.
Dagonee
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Enough normal function that I only require two shrinks, yes.
HA! Ben planning nerdfest. Serves him right.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
Kat, i think wingate will work fine. its large enough, roomy, and very patient with us.
Shuttle is more than $5. but serpoiusly dont sweat right now. Atlanta has marta and worse case scenario is we can shuttle people to the marta station and send them on their merry way.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
well, Lindsay (Ophelia) and i are in Athens technically, but i know atlanta oh so very well.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Dear, I'm only commenting on the physical aspects of your body and how it can or cannot function to normal factory spec.
Your imagination is entirely your own.
-Trevor
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Yeay! My own!
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Sorry Dag, we're ignoring you.
Ben - it's all good. You and Lindsay count as another set of hands and wheels as necessary or volunteered.
-Trevor
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
i count as more than hands and wheels. what about talent i tells ya?!
lets set a date.
i make executive decision of March 25-27 unless i get overthrown. but until further notice or i am told to shut up:
Wenchcon 2005 March 25-27...
[ December 06, 2004, 06:27 PM: Message edited by: Ben ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Right, but I'm not interested in your talent.
-Trevor
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
hell, maybe if you are lucky, Butch Walker will do a show that weekend, *drool*
[ December 06, 2004, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Ben ]
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
my orchestra teacher found lots of sightseeing in atlanta in april. Not that any of us were absolutely in love with the stuff but we enjoyed it. Stone Mountain, Jimmy Carter Center, Martin Luther King JR church and places, Coke museum, Underground Atlanta (I refuse to ever go there again, ick ick scary snakes).
(is not able to attend wench con)
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
*seconds March 25-27 at the Wingate*
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Heh.
I used to attend Georgia State - Underground Atlanta and the World o' Coke are tourist traps. I know of what I speak.
I was kinda aiming for sites that might be more than a little entertaining. Sheesh, I might as well take you to the Panorama.
-Trevor
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I know that if there isn't a shuttle, things will work out fine. But they can work out better. Seriously - If there are more than 15-20 people, a shuttle is worth it, unless someone wants to rent a minivan and spend three days driving people around. Because if there's no transportation hotel --> airport, that's going to happen anyway.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
All that random free Coke at the end of the tour...my bladder still remembers.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
And March 25-27 could work for me, as long as my classes are okay.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Honestly, I don't care when, as long as it's not on my daughter's birthday or too near it (April 5); I'll go whatever the cost (okay, not whatever, but still, I'll pay a little more than I want to to see you all, as long as it's not more than I can afford); I'm just bucking to keep this interesting and fun for everyone. My only real concerns have to do with the fact that I will be bringing my daughter, and keeping her safe and making sure she gets enough sleep even if I don't.
I am so looking forward to this. I'm toying with the idea of packing no clothes other than costumes...
[ December 06, 2004, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
Stinky, erm...i mean Olivia, brought her niece last time. that worked out well. she seemed happy and uncranky.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
How old was she?
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
and on the same note as the other mention in that post, i'm toying with the idea of not packing clothes OR costumes!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
But we hope Lindsay will FOR him.
And fine, the dates Ben declared are fine.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
The niece was 12, I think.
KQ's daughter is a leetle bit younger than that.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I hate to keep bringing this up, but can it be earlier in March? Bob&DanaCon is April 2nd, that's the very next weekend, and it would be hard for most people to travel two weekends in a row. Obviously, not everyone is going to the wedding, but for those of us who are...
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Yes, at 12 I went without sleep on a regular basis.
I mentioned Em's birthday is April 5. Let me clarify; that's her first birthday.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
but but but, i declared and everything! and we all know i have that much clout!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
but but but, you declared a different weekend first... Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
ElJay, when in March works?
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Yeah, and you edited your declaration! I saw that it said March 12th first, and was glad that it wasn't too close to the wedding! Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
First weekend?
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
March 4-6 it is.
Amen.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
(ElJay, can you email me? Hatrack won't let me email you. )
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Ben, if you just keep agreeing with what everyone else says, you'll always be right. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
As far as I'm concerned, the weekend of the 12th would be just peachy. That leaves 2 weekends in between that and the wedding, and we're probably not going to do much better than that with all the stuff people are trying to plan. It's also 2 weekends after the henna party, so as far as I'm concerned it's ideal.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
The twelth is fine with me. Heck, almost all of its fine with me, but if WenchCon is March and The Wedding is April, I don't think I'm going to make the henna party. *goes off to cry*
[ December 06, 2004, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
We can start a seperate thread only for this question, request only people who are planning on coming to post, and only to post your opinion. Once.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
mack, I can't from work... you can send it to me at eljay at hotmail.com and I'll get it when I get home tonight.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
tell me why march 4-6 wont work?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Isn't that one after the henna party?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Cool, thanks Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
March 27 is Easter. In case that matters to anyone.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Too close to the henna party, which has already been planned.
KQ, that never works. SOME PEOPLE, not naming any names but they start with Elizabth and punwit, always make puns, and then Ben stuffs the ballot box.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
ok 12-14. some people may just need to come and go as they please during that time.
[ December 06, 2004, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: Ben ]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I'm not saying it won't work... everyone was posting really fast right then, and I didn't see it had been suggested.
The henna party is 2/19. If WenchCon is going to be close to something, I'd rather it be close to that, since much fewer people will be coming, mostly midwesterners. I probably wouldn't make a WenchCon on 3/4, but that's okay, I can come next year... I just really, really don't want it the weekend before the wedding.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, I think a discussion and consensus is better, anyway.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Truely, make it close to the henna party if that's better for the people who are sure they'll be there, especially those of you who are actually in town. Just not the very-same weekend, please. Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
March 4-6 again.
see, i AM flexible.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Do you do yoga?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
He's actually Gumby.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Aaaah.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
don't mention gumby, it will make me crave pokey stix.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
Honestly, I think any weekend in March would work for me and Ben (Except Easter. That was an oversight. I never know when Easter is until the month of, at least.) As long as it's in our general area.
The 6th is my birthday, but I'd be happy to spend it with you guys.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
So, of the people who are coming, how many are actually dressing in costume? How weird am I actually going to be?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Ophelia, if we do it on your birthday, I will make a cake from scratch for you.
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
Last year they made everyone wear costumes. Costumes were brought for those of us who did not have the foresight to bring our own.
Really, do you think I wanted to wear a beard?
(Ben wants me to remind everyone that he did not have to wear a costume. "And he's a better person for it," he says.)
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
Dude, cake is awesome!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
But some people just wore, like, a cloak, right? I mean, I used to be a rennie, I'm planning on some pretty heavy-duty stuff...
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I make really good cake. I will even make it to your specifications.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I am curiously possessed by a desire to bring my own costume, seeing as I now have access to TWO HATRACKERS in Dallas who sew.
This is what happens when you get cut off from advertising. You become VERY suspectible to suggestion.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
katharina, if Coccinelle is busy with stuff, I'll be happy to make you a costume, provided you spend a Saturday shopping with me (you're going to have to pick out and buy the fabric, but I'll help) and we do a fitting that day (I use duct tape...)
Okay, so I'll stand out a bit, since I don't know much about LOTR and will probably lean more toward just the plain "wench" look I'm used to from being a rennie. Close enough, though.
[ December 06, 2004, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
*blink*
You use duct tape for what, exactly?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
The duct tape is to get a good fitting bodice on the dress. It involves two old t-shirts, a roll of duct tape, a sharpie, a weighted string, and a pair of scissors. Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Whoa.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Hey, it works. And my husband gets a kick out of helping me with it.
*has decided she will be in costume the whole time, and so will her daughter, just to freak people on the street (and in the airport!) out*
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Katie, I also have a killer idea for a dress for you...
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
i will be naked the whole time.
now sign on to be there people! with an incentive like that i dont know how you can pass this opportunity up!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*reconsiders going*
Posted by Coccinelle (Member # 5832) on :
I don't know if a date has been decided yet (I couldn't really tell) but I'd love to come, and I'd be able to if it was the weekend of the 12th. That would be my spring break and I could totally come and then road trip home (or something)
(Not that I really expect this to be planned around my schedule, but I thought I'd just say...)
[ December 06, 2004, 09:39 PM: Message edited by: Coccinelle ]
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
Jenny, darling, the only time I would possibly be able to come is June, and we seem to have decided on March. I am going to put in enormous effort to come to your May Day party this year, though. Most of our mares are due to foal sometime in march. So I'll have the late nights and long days without you all.
Ni!
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Be as naked as you like Ben - I will have a roll of duct tape and will be enforcing a minimum of modesty rules.
However, if you like yanking duct tape off bare skin, go for it.
-Trevor
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Trevor, please never cause that sort of visual EVER AGAIN.
*shudder*
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
quote:*seconds March 25-27 at the Wingate*
If you do it March 25, it's very unlikely I will be there, as it's a Jewish holiday that day.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
That's also Easter weekend, I don't think we'll be doing it then.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
so first weekend in march good?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:Katie, I also have a killer idea for a dress for you...
Score. Deal. I've never owned a costume before, but I think it's time.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Great! Call me in Jan., we'll set something up.
Posted by raventh1 (Member # 3750) on :
I've got plans at the end of March. I'm throwing a huge birthday party. ... Well okay just for my family but it'll still be huge. (and maybe some friends)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
But the beginning will work, right?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Looking back, we seem to have 2 available weekends: the first or second weekend in March. Shall we all look at our calendars and choose which one will work (or if either one, or neither one will work)?
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
The first weekend would probably work best, then. I mean, for me. But whatever works best for everyone else.
Becky Maybe we could do June, too. Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
The first weekend would probably work best, then. I mean, for me. But whatever works best for everyone else.
Becky Maybe we could do June, too. Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
first weekend it is
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Coccinelle said she can only do the second. That's one for the second. I can do either. Did Katie say the first was too soon, or was that not an issue any more?
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Umm, I think I'm going to go ahead and plan not to be there. Micro-managing tends to make me nervous.
space opera
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
My little sis is due on the 12th. If we do it then, I'll have to ask her to hold it in for a couple days. Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Posted by JaneX (Member # 2026) on :
I'll throw in my vote for the weekend of the 12th. That's during my spring break.
~Jane~
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Frisco, would she be willing to undergo an induction the week before for the sake of WenchCon?
(Just kidding-- I had one, I wouldn't really ask anyone to do that. )
[ December 07, 2004, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
I'm not terribly worried about it. Only about 5% of women give birth on their due date. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Yes, but a significant proportion are within 3 days either way of their due date.
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
So the percentage of women who give birth within one day of their due date is what, one third of the way between 5% and significant (which can't be too significant, as 33% of all babies are born outside of two weeks on either side).
*does quick Frisco math*
I can't imagine that any other day than the due date has more than its 5% probability, but assuming the day before and the day after do, there's only a 15% chance I'll miss it if I go away for a weekend.
A quick run through Murphy's Law ups the percentage to just over 100%, though. Oh, well. The other little sis is due in June. I'll try not to miss that one. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*would consider 15% significant, herself*
(at least in medical terms)
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
If it were my child, I'd say significant. But Idaho's not West Virginia--my little sis isn't my baby mama.
It's not like I'm gonna be in the delivery room or anything. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
lol
My mom was in the Dominican Republic when my little monster was born. I was disappointed, but in the long term, it was actually nice to have her come a week later, after everyone from church's help was winding down.
So, you're on board for either weekend, then? Is anyone keeping count?
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
I'm good for either one. It's just the difference between taking a seven or eight week vacation this time.
(and yes, Tom, I do work sometimes )
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
so my executive decisions carry no weight. so which is it? somebody solidify a date!
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
March 12.
ElJay gave her approval, no one else has objections, Eddie can be there, Coccinelle can come, and JaneX can come. Yay!
[ December 08, 2004, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Has Olivetta weighed in?
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
I object. Unless it's in Poland.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I talked to Olivia on the phone on Sunday, and she said January was too soon, but March sounded really possible. She also expressed gratitude for TMMedina and BenandLindsay, so I think it's okay with her.
Added: Okay, I need to read the thread more carefully. Since Olivia is planning it, I think she needs to pick the date exactly.
----
Kama, just tell your parents you're sleeping at a friends house and run over.
[ December 08, 2004, 10:58 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by Coccinelle (Member # 5832) on :
*crosses her fingers in hopes that it's on the 12th*
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Yes, we want people to be there, please say the 12th! *gives big sad-eyed look to Olivia*
Posted by JaneX (Member # 2026) on :
*joins Coccinelle in finger-crossing*
[ December 08, 2004, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: JaneX ]
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
I have somplace far away to be on the 14th, but that weekend is okay. I mean, I don't have to be there the whole time. It does mean that I probably won't be able to help shuttle people to the airport on Sunday, though.
But that's okay, as long as somebody else is willing.
Posted by Vána (Member # 6593) on :
I don't see any problem with either of those weekends.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
Space Opera, I have a question: Is it the trying to pick a date that is micromanaging? I don't want to offend anyone. I'd rather not do it than hurt anyone's feelings. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote: It does mean that I probably won't be able to help shuttle people to the airport on Sunday, though.
But that's okay, as long as somebody else is willing.
Hotel with airport shuttle. I'm serious - unless somebody wants to be chauffer that weekend and that's all (and who would want to do that?), I think getting a hotel with an airport shuttle is the single thing most conducive to WenchCon happiness.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Silly Olivia - not at all.
space opera
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
That lets out the Wingate.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I second that, Kate-- we're all going to have different flights, there's no way that three people want to be going back and forth driving everyone.
Plus, if some of us stay an extra day to save money on the flight, people won't have to rearrange their plans to take care of us.
[ December 08, 2004, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Olivia, I'll just say again that no, micromanaging isn't you.
I have plans that weekend in March, so I won't be able to go. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
There are usually plenty of hotels near the airport that do it. I have already said I'd be happy to call and find out all about all their rates if it would save others time (I'm a stay-home mom, with not much to do, and we have unlimited long-distance, so it won't cost). But if someone else would like to, I'm happy to let them.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
No mac?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Nope. I could've done the first weekend in March, but the second weekend I have plans that can't exactly be changed, and the third weekend, I'm in a wedding in Georgia.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
We can still all try to find a different weekend... I guess... *is sad because obviously not everyone is going to be able to make any weekend, but she'd like to meet everyone*
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
Please, anyone who wants to find a hotel and is willing to make calls, feel free. What I found was that the hotels with airport service are closer to the city, which means they are either more expensive or fairly skanky.
So it's a trade off, but if it's one most people are willing to make, then It's cool by me.
*Sigh*
What about May? Longer wait, but that gives us more time to plan stuff and get cheap flights or whatever. It'd be out of the way of the wedding, but probably still not too hot.
What do you guys say?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
My birthday is May 21. But then, maybe I can get my husband to agree to it as a birthday present...
Olivia, I'll start calling people and email you when I have any results, since I don't really know what's a good place and what's not.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
I vote for a skanky hotel!
space opera
edit: that *was* a joke, by the way
[ December 08, 2004, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: Space Opera ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Okay, aside from the weekends in March (2nd, 3rd and Easter weekend), and the weekend of bobndanafest, I'm good with anything else. I've got a friend who works for Delta and get get tix cheap.
If I can go, I volunteer as a shuttle because I can get a good rate on an SUV from Enterprise. I found that renting a car was a GREAT experience. You had transportation flexibility and could help out others. If it came to it, instead of going for a skankier or more expensive hotel, we could pool money for a couple SUV rentals and do it that way. I'd volunteer to be a driver, since I'm somewhat familiar with the Atlanta area as I grew up there.
Hence Ben.
I love that I sucked ben into this.
Nerd.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
I thought I found a good place last year, only to have my husband shake his head and laugh at me, mumbling something like, "No way you're sleeping anywhere in that neighborhood."
So, I'll run it by him, and make some calls when i get a minute. Have many family dental appts today, and must confront martial arts people about not paying me for the last half of my work. *stressed*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Okay.
A minivan or SUV can be rented from Enterprise on the first weekend in March (was using it to get rates) for $212 for Friday through Monday.
So, whoever is doing hotel math, can you compare that vs. an airport shuttle enabled more expensive hotel?
Olivia, I can also run hotels by Leanne, as she works in the crap-areas of Atlanta, being a paramedic. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
The advantage of the hotel is not the price - it's that someone doesn't have to sacrifice being involved in the fun in order to play chauffeur.
Jamie, are you really offering to be at the beck and call of everyone the whole weekend?
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
*hoping we don't pick a hotel that's very expensive*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
If it means I can go? Then by all means, yes.
I'd also suspect that most flight would be on Friday and Sunday.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
That's flights in. Most flights out will be Sunday and Monday. That means every day of WenchCon, you will be driving people back and forth thirty minutes each way to the airport.
And if people's flights leave two and a half hours apart...you'll either be spending the entire day in the car, for all four days (which I don't see happening), or else people will hang out at airports by themselves a lot and not be able to spend that last two and a half hours with everyone. ---
What we need are options - how much the different options cost.
Ketchupqueen, I'll help you call places this weekend if you like.
[ December 08, 2004, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
I've tried to read this entire thread to determine what date everyone decided on...I couldn't figure it out.
Are you still thinking? If not, when exactly is this going to be held?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think the two most popular dates bandied about are the first and second weekends in March. Some wenches can only come the first weekend, and some can only come the second weekend.
No one wants to make a definite decision (including me). I think that part of the discussion has been tabled pending new information or a deadline due to a reluctance to exclude anyone.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
Okay, thanks.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
We haven't really decided on a date quite yet. Katie, I'm going to compile a list of places to call today. I'll probably start calling today or tomorrow. I'll e-mail you a list if I still have places to call this weekend, okay?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I thought I'd made it clear that what I said was an option, and that costs needed to be analyzed. Apparently I didn't, but now I did. Analyze away.
A shuttle also wouldn't be at the beck and call of everyone--there'd be timed trips.
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
I know I'm coming in a bit late on this, but I wanna come. The first weekend in March would be awesome for me, as that's my spring break.
quote:I'm sooo up for a Road Trip for any Midwesterners...
Like me?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I'm going to call any hotel reasonably near the airport (in case we do decide to have someone drive, it'll be no more than 5-10 minutes away) that has meeting facilities and find out about shuttles, meeting facilities, rates (for both March and May) whether there's a discount for groups, if so, how many do we need, etc., and send it on to Olivia for weeding out of undesirable locations and such, and then she can choose the best option.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
What's our target price on rooms? And do we think we can fill 15 rooms?
[ December 08, 2004, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
In my opinion, it would be nice to find something less than $100/night for rooms. That way those of us who are cheap can split it 4 ways and pay $25/night or less. We should be able to fill 15 rooms, I think.
Also, I would expect up to $150/night for a conference room, with that price going down depending how many rooms we fill. Any more than that, or $150 without a break for more rooms, probably wouldn't be worth it unless the rooms were significantly under $100/night.
Of course, Atlanta prices might be different... but I wouldn't think it would be too much more than Chicago. See if you can find something in that ballpark, and a airport shuttle for $10 per direction or less. Or right on a train line from the airport with no transfers required, even those of us unfamiliar with the area and/or directionally impaired should be able to manage that. So that's the ideal, and we'll see how close we can get to it.
(I'm still down as a maybe. I'll come if it's possible, but I'm not getting my hopes up.)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Okay, I found a place 1 mile from the airport with a free shuttle that will give us a group rate of $69 a night and a meeting room free if we fill 15 rooms. The meeting room can be arranged with chairs for only up to 50 people, but can be arranged "theater style" for up to 90.
How does that sound?
(I will keep calling to see if I find something better, though.)
[ December 08, 2004, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Good grief, that sounds perfect.
Hmm...Since The Wedding is the next month, I think WenchCon attendance might be a little lighter. What if we don't fill 15 rooms?
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I thought the nerd said the Wingate had hourly shuttles to the airport?
Just to try and keep the confusion down, email me with your preferences for a date at trevor_medina@hotmail.com.
What dates are good for you, what dates you absolutely cannot do, etc.
If you already know your hotel room preference - single, double, sharing a room, etc., please include that as well. Any special accomodations should also be noted - Ketchup will be bringing her little spud, for example.
-Trevor
Edit: Which one is that Ketchup?
[ December 08, 2004, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: TMedina ]
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
My only question is what kind of rooms are those? 2 double beds, or only 1? For that price, some people would probably go only 2 to a room, but it's still good to know if we could do 4.
But yeah, that sounds awesome, as long as it's in a decent part of town with some food choices within walking distance.
Oh, one other thing to check on... I don't think it would be a deal breaker, but nice to know if they have an "activities" area. At KamaCon I don't think too many people used the pool, but the meeting room started to get cramped every now and then and a lot of us went down to the pool area to play ping-pong and pool. That was fun. 'Cept when Eddie and I got busted quietly playing ping-pong at midnight. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, there's also, apparently, a Nascar race or something in March, so things will be crazy in the airports and all the second weekend. We also might have higher rates if we try to go then, plus many places are already full.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
That's the rate for either a queen or 2 doubles. The lady is going to email me, but I think she did say walking distance to lots of places.
*goes off to call more places*
[ December 08, 2004, 05:26 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
If we stick close to the airport, yes - what are the odds a hotel on the north side of town would run a shuttle service?
-Trevor
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Just out of curiosity, is someone close by going to look at whatever place we are considering before we make a decision? You know, so we know that the place is clean and well kept and all... Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I think that would almost be required - considering how many women we will have attending WenchCon.
I can borrow a friend's digital camera and inspect the site once we pick a likely location.
-Trevor
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, apparently people who work hotel sales in Atlanta leave before 5:30, 'cause I'm not getting them. I left some messages, so I may find a better deal tomorrow, but right now it looks like the only one I found with really good rates was the Wellesley Inn and Suites Atlanta Airport. The sales rep was really helpful and friendly, too, which I can't say for all of them.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
It varies - some run 9-5, others till 6.
Apparently a local college had a "mock convention registration" exercise that torqued off the sales rep I spoke to.
-Trevor
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I just sent you an e-mail, Trevor. Sorry I talk so much...
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
the wingate i still think is great. i dont thiunk anybody felt like they missed out by helping run shuttle last year. i really do think everybody had a fine time and will again.
hotel shuttle = no big deal. i volunteer to be the guy who "wont have much fun" by shuttling everybody kat, dont worry about it. go for the wingate.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
It has balconies... *remembers how much trouble we got in climbing between balconies on HS band trips*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Those balconies were awesome.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Wouldn't it be great if no one has to sacrifice fun?
We are just looking at possibilities here...
I did like the badmiton and ping pong courts at KamaCon.
---
I love the idea of sneaking across balconies to each other's rooms. Maybe we can make rules in order to have fun breaking them.
1. No sneaking into each other's rooms. 2. No stealing all the clothes while someone is in the shower. 3. No ping pong at midnight. 4. No handing out commemorative underwear. 5. No embarassing the Wenchlings.
[ December 08, 2004, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
How much does the Wingate cost? What about the meeting room?
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
The Wingate was very nice. Had a nice spot for us to set up our Saturday lunch buffet, too.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
yep. and walking distance to goodness. i dont know exact prices. Olivia would.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
I think they're actually posted somewhere earlier in this thread. Page 3 or 4, maybe...
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
One advantage of the WinGate was that it was close to Olivia's house.
The advantage of being close to the airport is that transportation would be greatly eased.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
transportation is not an issue katie! i think you are awesome but you really gotta let the trasportation thing go! this will work, i promise. wingate is just a great locale.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Okay, earlier someone said $75 per room, plus $50 a day for the conference room. Is the extra stuff worth the extra cost? 'Cause it's a very small difference, except for the shuttle.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I don't object to playing chauffer as long as somebody gives me the silly hat.
Ketchup - not a problem on either account. You've volunteered a lot of work and on behalf of the past and future Wenchlings, we appreciate it. The fact you're chatty is just an added plus.
The prices for the Wingate are located earlier in this thread, although it couldn't hurt to confirm both the prices and whether or not they run an airport shuttle.
-Trevor
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I can do that tomorrow, or you can, Trevor. Also, you might want to check availability on our tentative dates (March or May), since there were issues with that at some places.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Virginia Avenue isn't that nice, particularly if it's the one I'm thinking of.
There is one, maybe two fast food places nearby and the rest is lower income neighborhoods of which I wouldn't want my (important female) to walk through unattended.
And since I'm not nearly so chatty, I won't miss any fun by running people to and from the airport.
-Trevor
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
march march march. no may. waiting sucks. go march
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
T, does it have to be a chauffer silly hat? Or do we get to give you any silly hat we want? :plots:
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Ben, it could be an issue. It has been an issue in the past. It would be great if it didn't have to be an issue at all. Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Go for it Ketchup - you have a knack for the hotel thing.
-Trevor
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Oh, and...
quote: of which I wouldn't want my (important female) to walk through unattended.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Ya know, I've never had to pry someone's fingers off a dead horse's throat before...
Ketchup, if you could confirm or deny the existence of an airport shuttle from the Wingate, I would appreciate it.
-Trevor
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
The Wingate was within easy walking distance of several places to eat, and within easy driving distance of a number more. We walked quite a bit, when we were there, as I recall.
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
i can vouch from last year. there is none, necessarily. **Correction** AAA shuttle doesnt run out there. but the Ben-Express does.
[ December 08, 2004, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: Ben ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
As people email me there availability dates, I can also get their means of arrival - who's flying in, who's driving, etc.
This will help us determine Wingate or something closer.
-Trevor
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
it worked well last year at wingate regardless of who arrived when...just sayin'
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Oh. I didn't put that in, but I'm flying.
And you probably already knew that, huh?
[ December 08, 2004, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Ok Ben, I've coaxed Kat to let go of the horse's throat.
You can release your strangle hold on the other end.
Both concerns have been noted and will be taken with due consideration.
-Trevor
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Oh and adding your sig to your email would be nice if you email me from a normal-sounding email account.
Actually, I was unaware Ketchup, but I will note it in the list.
-Trevor
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
fair enough.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
This dead horse is starting to smell... Can someone help me move it out of the thread? *runs away, anticipating an argument over whether to move it with ropes or shovels*
(Just trying to lighten things up. Please, please don't take offense, anyone...) Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
It's all good Ketchup - we'll get the horse out in a minute.
Just need to find the chainsaw...
-Trevor
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
I stay lost in this topic.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
"This is some mighty good stew." "You think so? I butchered this horse last week, I reckon she's startin' to turn..."
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
That's ok Tammy, you just have to play...ketchup.
-Trevor
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
That's my problem...I can't seem to ketchup.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Don't your head and neck hurt enough already, mack?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Well, the doc didn't say anything about bashing my head into the wall...though, you'd think that'd be intuitive on my part.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Yep. You intuitively do it when you're frustrated. *nod*
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Or intuitive not to continue to cause myself bodily harm.
No WONDER my docs give me explicit instructions.
Fencing starts in two minutes. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*hands mac some Tiger Balm*
I'm not sure if it's really intended for head-bashing pain, but hey, it can't hurt, right?
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Since we've got a dead horse in the thread, is this the time to mention that I've heard that horse fat is the very best deep-frying fat ever? Like, french fries done in horse fat are your memory of the best fry you've ever eaten times 10.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Um, Ewww...
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm nervous about taking this muscle relaxer, actually. I've never taken one before.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
*giggle* Yeah. But, ya know, Trevor's getting out the chainsaw, so I figure I couldn't be too much worse than that.
Edit: To kq. mack, I'm not laughing at you, honest.
[ December 08, 2004, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: ElJay ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
(((hugs))) to mac
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
Okay guys...enough silly talk.
Start some serious planning here!
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
I very much liked the Wingate.
If it's NOT at the Wingate, then it is absolutely vital that wherever we end up going has a good sized meeting room. KamaCon's meeting room was too small, and impacted my enjoyment of the event. I couldn't talk to anyone because I couldn't hear them, due to all the background noise.
If we had used airport shuttles at the last WenchCon, then I wouldn't have had the opportunity to hang out and chat with Olivia one-on-one, which was one of the highlights of the trip.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Okay, I'm back.
If we'd used shuttles at KamaCon, someone wouldn't have had to spend three hours of a crazy day searching for one person at the airport.
Absolutely - large meeting room = vital.
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Is that the objection? That the shuttles would seem too impersonal? I think the desire to always be met at the airport. I can see that.
I just think that it is going to end up the job of someone sweet, introverted, and responsible to play chauffer that weekend. I'm not worried it's going to be me (see list of qualities), but I do think it is going to be someone like that since that's what's happened every other time. Surely, surely there is a way to get everything.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*resists replying*
*through clenched teeth*
Yes, small meeting rooms could get cramped. I could see that.
*claps hand over mouth so Trevor doesn't get her*
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
sounds like alot of people enjoyed the wingate. and it sounds like everybody had a great time last time. so...why change a good thing?
[ December 09, 2004, 10:48 AM: Message edited by: Ben ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
That seems to be a main reason that a lot of people don't want to consider change. While I'm sure the excellence of the locale contributed to the overall good experience, isn't the point to have fun together? And couldn't that be accomplished, and an excellent experience be had, somewhere else as well?
It's like jeans. If you have one pair of jeans, and you like to wear them, doesn't it make sense to try buying another pair of jeans? Maybe a slightly different style to add to your wardrobe options? Ones that fit you well when you try them on, but are slightly different, and have, say, convenient pockets that your other jeans don't have?
It makes sense to me...
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Well, let's see what all are options are.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
You know what would be fun? We should all go somewhere very refined, like an art museum, in costume. *giggles*
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
We could all hit up the High.
but you won't find me in costume...not gonna happen.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
But, Ben, what if we get you some elf ears? You could just wear regular clothes with them...
[ December 09, 2004, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Ben already has elf ears.
Posted by xnera (Member # 187) on :
No, I don't think a shuttle would be too impersonal. Heck, I would take public transportation by myself, if there was a way to get from the airport to whichever hotel we end up with. I do see the value of discussing alternatives. And I do agree that transportation was a serious issue at KamaCon. I wasn't around to hear most of it, but what I heard about sounded like there was way too much chauffering going on, which I'm sure made the event less fun for a select few.
I don't think there were as many problems with chauffering at WenchCon II. It felt like a lot of folks really tried to group their arrival times together, so they could carpool. I think if we planned carefully, we could make do without airport shuttles. But we should absolutely consider finding a place that either has shuttles, is on a public transportation route (we took the Marta often during the Olympics. I liked it), or would cut down on the transit time for those carpooling or chauffering.
I am not opposed to finding a new place. I just feel that the Wingate had a lot of what I wanted. Comfortable rooms, a large meeting room, an equally large continental breakfast area that we used for spillover, lots of stuff within walking distance. These are all things I would like to see with whatever hotel we decide on. And if it's not the Wingate, then I would really like for someone to go check out the hotel in person before we sign a contract, so we can make sure it is suitable to our needs.
I would love to sightsee in Atlanta again sometime. However, I would be quite content to just sit at the hotel and chitchat with folks. I'm going to visit with people, not to see the city. So my primary concern is making sure the hotel is comfortable enough to hang out at all weekend.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Ben already has elf ears
Ben, that's a costume. Kinda.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
At some point a head count should probably be undertaken so you know what you're dealing with...
Hobbes Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Isn't that why Trevor asked us to email him?
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
I don't know, but I doubt e-mail will get the same type of response as a new thread devoted to signing up, including people with maybes, strong maybes, possiblys, and "if there cat doesn't get sick"s.
Hobbes Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Oh, I'm sure there will be one, at some point. But if Olivia hasn't decided where or when, it seems a little early. Trevor just wanted to know who could come when so we can pick a date and then start that kind of stuff, I think.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
What's this about Trevor wanting people to email him?
Posted by JaneX (Member # 2026) on :
He wanted people to email him about what dates would be good for them. Go vote for March 12th.
~Jane~
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
You know, I don't think it matters what date for me (assuming I can convice Jen to go) so my vote is up for the highest bidder.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Tick, did you email Trevor and tell him that? He also wants to know who would be coming in by air and who would be driving (and who would be swimming or walking, I suppose). Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
The Wellesley was on my list last year, but for some reason didn't make the cut. I don't think it was one I checked out but didn't like. I think they may have been the ones that never answered the phone.
KQ is the coolest. *cheers*
One of us needs to find the place and scope the surroundings. I'm cool with the change, if it's a safe area with stuff close by.
And the Wingate was actually about 20-25 min from my house, but it was near the interstate, easy to find and in the middle of one of the biggest commercial areas on the North Side. Plus, they gave us the meeting room for half of what otgher places wanted, since I could not be sure how many rooms would be booked. I think it ended up being less than ten, since about 15 young men shared, like, two rooms. I think the total was about 7 or 8 rooms, and two of them were just my family.
I'll contact Kelly and see if they could even do us the same deal this year, since it was partly based on it being the off season.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I'm still waiting for calls back from other places; I will either have more options tomorrow, or be out of places to call.
And you're the coolest, Olivia.
[ December 09, 2004, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
I'm mostly kidding - since I won't know if we can go for a while, no sense in me having a say. My preference would be to drive, but then I'd take the week before off (or some days before/after) to make it easier, maybe see the folks on the way down.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
random
I'll be in Georgia in May. Not in March.
/random
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
So I guess the choice is between March 12 and the previous weekend? Shlomo won't be able to come either of those weekends.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
We were also considering May, if more people could make it then, I think. Another reason to just say when you can come, when you can't, and not worry about the "choices". Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
It seems like alot of people are having trouble with March, and it would be difficult having so many get-togethers in four weeks.
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
May is not so great for exams and stuff like that, for many students. I know Shlomo will be bogged down with AP exams and the like.
Too bad we didn't start the serious planning of this early enough to do it on a 3-day weekend like MLK or President's Day, like we did last year...
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Bad people. Not e-mailing Trevor. Go see his other thread about plans.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
We didn't start planning because I wasn't planning on it at all, what with my mom dying and other family stuff. I'm sorry if it puts anybody out over much, but not doing it is always an option. I can't even do it the second week in March. People said February was too soon, though I think we could book a hotel, it wouldn't leave time for cheap flights and other arrangments.
PS I told Ron the wellesley was on Virginia ave and he laughed. Then he said it would be fine as long as we didn't leave the hotel. O_o
But really, I'm cool with not doing this if it's only going to make people mad with the arrangments. I just missed everybody and would like to do it again sometime.
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Hmmm. I truly think it's time for an executive decision - perhaps by Trevor and Olivia since they live in Atlanta?
Seriously, what's the problem with just using the place that was used last time? I've heard lots of people saying it was great; it seems unproductive to go round and round for 9 pages voting on a place when a good one seems to exist - plus all this is making more work for Trevor and Olivia because despite other people making calls, *they* are the ones that have to physically go there and check it out.
space opera
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Some of us would go to Georgia just to visit Olivia and family Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
Olivia, I didn't say that to put the blame on you, some of the others of us could have taken responsibility for planning it, and we just didn't. I guess I thought we weren't going to do it this year after all.
So you really can't do the second week in March? I could do either weekend in March, but I think JaneX could do that second weekend.
I hope we will be able to work something out with everyone who wants to come this time. Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
I don't think anyone is blaming anyone for anything - we're just prodding the ball to get it rolling.
-Trevor
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
As mentioned in the other thread. Last night at dinner, Olivia and i threw out the idea that we should just do it in January and let it be. Does not matter if it's one month away, or three. cut out on the weekend swapping in March. Those that will come, will come. Those that will not, will not, regardless! So, yep, here is to January.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Check the other thread - we're testing the waters with the notion of the last weekend in January or the first weekend in February.
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