--j_k
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
I killed a baby bumblebee..... <snicker>
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You know, this is actually the first Pixar film so far that I'm not particularly interested in seeing based on the early teasers. It's just waaaay out of my demographic.
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
How is that movie's demographic different from any other Pixar movie?
Posted by solo (Member # 3148) on :
I probably wouldn't really be interested in this one either but my son is sitting here with me and he keeps saying "Trucks. Again!" He seems very excited and that is enough to make me want to see it if only for his reaction.
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
quote:How is that movie's demographic different from any other Pixar movie?
It's the first one that's not rated G.
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Actually, it's not the first Pixar film that's not rated G. The incredibles is rated PG.
Posted by peterh (Member # 5208) on :
My two boys are addicted to the trailer already.
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
I thought we were talking about The Incredibles.
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
This thread is about the movie Cars which comes out later this year.
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
quote: This thread is about the movie Cars which comes out later this year.
Actually, it's coming out in November 2005.
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Oh, my bad.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Whereas I used to play with toys, can appreciate tropical fish, and collect superhero comics, I have little to no interest in NASCAR or hillbilly rustbuckets. That's not to say that they couldn't find a way to make it worthwhile for me -- I have a certain amount of faith in Pixar by now -- but holding my interest is definitely going to be an uphill battle for 'em. But, as I said, I don't imagine that grabbing my interest is their priority with this film.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
I'm with Tom. Rusty redneckmobiles, and cars in general for that matter leave me cold.
But then again, so does a story about talking toys...
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
I'm going to agree with the lot of you and say that I hope that there's more to the movie than what's shown in the teaser. But do remember, Pixar is yet to have a flop, so I'll wait for the next trailer...
--j_k
Posted by signal (Member # 6828) on :
Of all the car or racing themes that are out there, they go with nascar. What the heck were they thinking?!
Oh yeah, and what Tom said.
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
I started a thread about this movie about a year ago, and no one responded to it. Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
quote:Whereas I used to play with toys, can appreciate tropical fish, and collect superhero comics, I have little to no interest in NASCAR or hillbilly rustbuckets.
But I'm betting you do drive a car....
Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
quote:Of all the car or racing themes that are out there, they go with nascar. What the heck were they thinking?!
Because it's one of the most popular sports in the world. Freaking snobs.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
Nascar's not a sport.
Posted by dabbler (Member # 6443) on :
Tom, I wasn't interested by the Incredibles trailer last year, but now I'm excited to see it based on the positive energy it's generated. I'm expecting something similar to happen with Cars.
Everyone's loved the Incredibles, and I have little doubt the Cars will be anything but excellent.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
I heard similar rumblings from folks (my wife in particular) about Finding Nemo. Pixar gets the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
quote:Nascar's not a sport.
It's a public competition played for entertainment, and based on a physical skill. What else do you call those?
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Is this going to inspire a new set of Chevron with Techron commercials?
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
echoing the Tick, I thought Finding Nemo was gonna suck and it's probably the best of the bunch...
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
You like Finding Nemo better than The Incredibles?
Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
I got pretty close, MEC I'd say that definitions 1 and 3 fit NASCAR quite well, and 2 fits if you consider hard driving to be "exertion" ...
Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
Tick, I had similar rumblings about Finding Nemo, too. I was a bit more intrigued by the Incredibles, but I certainly didn't expect to love it and was really surprised. Maybe, just maybe...
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
I thought you got it almost exactly, I was just supporting your statement.
Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
That's what I figured I was mostly pointing out the accuracy of my definition to bug kaioshin ...
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
Finding Nemo is easily better than the Incredibles, although both are very good....
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
How's that Tres?
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
I think that "A Bug's Life" is the worst, with the "Toy Story"s coming in second (worst, that is).
[ November 08, 2004, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: MEC ]
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
The Incredibles is an action movie that is entertaining and well-written, but has a muddled point. It's something along the lines of "Don't settle for average" but ends up being cliche, somewhat inconsistent, and lost among a series of action sequences.
Finding Nemo is equally entertaining and well-written, but also has greater depth (depth! - get it?). It's a parable about the need for risk taking in a meaningful life, and it is focused much better around that main idea.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I enjoyed Finding Nemo, but I did check my watch a couple of times during it. When I was watching The Incredibles, I was pretty much immersed in the world for the duration of the movie--didn't check my watch once. Superheros formed a huge part of the mythological backdrop of my childhood, though, so that could easily be why I was so enthralled.
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
It's very difficult comparing the two, they differ by a lot.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I haven't been disappointed by a Pixar film yet...they've all been exceptional, IMO.
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
I wasn't saying I was dissapointed, I was just pointing them out as my least favorites.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
I probably liked A Bug's Life the least, but that still means it's better than alot of other animated movies out there. I think it comes down to the voice actors. Never really found Dave Foley all that funny and that may have transferred over.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
I think The Incredibles and Monsters, Inc. tie for second in my rankings... and loved both of them.
But Finding Nemo is just an awesome film, especially if you're a dad.
I didn't think the Incredibles had a muddled message, BTW, and it was a tremendously fun movie... just not quite up to matching Finding Nemo
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
It reminds me of that Disney cartoon short about the little blue car that gets messed up and put back together again. Anyone remember that one?
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
When I saw the preview for it it made me think of Bill Peet's work. I wish I could travel back in time with a copy of this movie, and show it to my brother when he was about 3 years old. I don't think that anything on earth would have a made a 3 year old him happier than this movie.
Posted by Lime (Member # 1707) on :
Tres - The Incredibles doesn't actually have a point... in the "moral of the story" kind of way, at least.
Pixar's movies tend to have underlying moral points, which I'm okay with, but The Incredibles seems to be more of a tale for entertainment instead of something with a deeper moral significance. So, it's fluffier, which is a departure from standard Pixar fare, but Brad Bird did say it was an action movie.
As far as action movies go, it was excellent. They characters were well done, and they had me believing these characters were in danger - not something that a lot of action movies these days necessarily do well.
Edited for clarity
[ November 08, 2004, 07:33 PM: Message edited by: Lime ]
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
But when you compare two great movies, the one with more depth is going to have an advantage.
Posted by Lime (Member # 1707) on :
Very true. But two great movies of different genres are harder to compare than two of similar genre.
I could imagine a friendly argument where one side would say that Die Hard is a better movie than The Rock. But saying the Die Hard is a better movie than Ghostbusters is a harder argument to make.
Hrm, the more I think about this, the more I find myself wanting to use modifiers like "good action movie." I agree: between two great movies, the one with more depth has the advantage.
I hold that detracting from The Incredibles for having a muddled point is unfair to the movie, because it's an action movie - such things rarely pretend to have points. But, I'd say that if I were to try and nail down the movie's point, it would be, "Be true to yourself."
Finding Nemo was a parable, whereas The Incredibles was an action movie - comparing the two as you did, apples to apples, doesn't make for a good measurement of either film because their focus and goals were different.
quote:Finding Nemo is equally entertaining and well-written, but also has greater depth (depth! - get it?).
(Edited to remove extra buts.)
[ November 08, 2004, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: Lime ]
Posted by Xaposert (Member # 1612) on :
All movies from all genres should have a point, whether it be a simple "moral of the story" or something far more complex and subtle. Even action movies usually do, but they often lack depth - and as a result, action movies only rarely outdo dramas. Their genre does not excuse them.
Also, I think The Incredibles DOES have a very definite point it is driving at. The plot arc revolves around the Incredibles unhappiness with having to hide their gifts - and turns with their reevaluation of that decision. The same line is repeated twice, regarding the idea that in a world where everyone is super, nobody is. I think this all indicates the point is about the value of individual gifts, and the need to recognize them, to stand out.
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I'd say that definitions 1 and 3 fit NASCAR quite well, and 2 fits if you consider hard driving to be "exertion" ...