Thank you so very much that someone else pointed out the problems with smallville... the only thing is that they started long beforehand.
The nude bathing in the lake, the 'bad clark' wanting to get all sexed up, the continuous barrage of sex... it has been driving me NUTS, and I no longer watch this show. In all honesty, it really makes me angry because, were they to have not gone down that route, this would have been my favorite show... possibly ever. I mean it was an absolutely fabulous look at Superman, and the actors that they cast for both Clark Kent and the Luthers were INCREDIBLE. In fact, the character of Lex Luther, as portrayed in Smallville, was one of my favorite characters ever. He was nothing short of awe-inspiring, for the character he was playing.
Oh well... then again, the whole WB is becoming a den of perverts... either the management or the writers, but most likely the management, as all of their shows have been doing that lately.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
If it's any consolation, the whole WB started out as a den of perverts.
Posted by Windaria (Member # 4972) on :
How sad... it just drives me absolutely nuts... I mean ARGH THAT SHOW COULD HAVE BEEN SO VERY VERY GREAT!
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
*is a bad person because I like seeing Clark shirtless* But, gratuitious sex is rather irratating, but it does give me an excuse to use the word "gratuitious." Really, too many shows take that route. There has to be a way to have a good plot and still have at least one Clark shirtless scene. *again, is a terrible person*
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Tom Davidson already posted my thoughts verbatim... AJ
Posted by Windaria (Member # 4972) on :
I'm just jealous when they show Clark shirtless...
That said, there's nothing overtly wrong with a guy that is shirtless... but when they're trying to imply all the sex and show everyone shirtless, and pantless... with strategic locations covered up... grrr!
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Look for a Smallville parody to show up in my column in the next few weeks...
Posted by Windaria (Member # 4972) on :
Your... column?
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
I'm not unhappy with the amount of Shirtless Clark, but I've pretty much stopped watching since Lost started. I can always get the DVDs.
I just can't take another year of Chloe getting kicked in the teeth by her unrequited love for Clark. It's been 3 years, why can't they let her move on?
I also break out in hate hives whenever Lois is onscreen. She looks 10 years older than all the other kids (who already look older than high school kids, which doesn't particularly bother me) and I hate her unkempt, frosted, ashy brunette hair.
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
I feel the same way about Lois Mrs. M. Posted by Aeroth (Member # 6269) on :
I still see some potential in the show. We had those "KrypTuck" and "Devoted" episodes, which basically served as the excessive teenage edges of Smallville this season.
But what about the episode with the Flash? The episode where Clark and Lionel switch bodies? Or the episode with Mxyzptlk? You can't tell me you didn't seem the same old goodness when you saw those.
Besides, the show was made for teens. The material on it will be the things that entertain that target demographic, and you can't complain about the fact that the show is accomplishing what it set out to do, which is telling the early Superman mythos to a younger generation.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I should dl that episode that had that cute guy with the fake Russian accent. He looked sort of like an opera singer I like, only with black hair.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Lois looked OK age-wise during the first season, but by the second season she looked way too old. I don't know what changed.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
At this point I'm wondering why Clark doesn't just tell Lana all his secrets and bench press her horse in front of her. Half of Smallville knows, all the super-powered bad guys that come through town find out almost immediately (possibly through Smallville Chamber of Commerce handouts) and she's regularly endangered because he has to act behind the scenes. Tell her already, this is getting old. Watching the two of them go over the same conversation in every other episode is actually painful to watch.
"Clark, I know you have secrets, and I hate it so much I get stomach cramps, but I still want to be friends. Say, how'd you get here so fast, anyway?"
Clark glances away and down, which is how even people watching from across the street know he's About to Lie.
"I don't know, Lana, you must have had one of your many blackouts while I was walking over in a totally normal fashion. Can I just stand here and stare at you helplessly while we listen to whatever new song Warner Brothers is trying to sell?"
[ November 11, 2004, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Chris Bridges ]
Posted by Lupus (Member # 6516) on :
quote: Lois looked OK age-wise during the first season, but by the second season she looked way too old. I don't know what changed.
You mean Lana? Lois didn't show up until this season.
I don't think either of them look as old as Clark. He looks like he is in his mid twenties at the youngest.
Personally, I enjoy parts of the show. I find Clark's friendship with Lex to be interesting, though they have been screwing with it quite a bit this season. I do think they focus to much on Clark keeping his secret from his friends. It just gets a bit old after a while.
I also thought KK (Lana) did a terrible job acting this week. She way overdid everything in her attempt to be that evil witch)
[ November 11, 2004, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: Lupus ]
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Honestly, I liked the actress much more when she was playing the evil witch Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:Or the episode with Mxyzptlk?
There was a Mxyzptlk episode?
Damn. I want to see that.
Dagonee
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Sort of. He wasn't from another dimension. He was from some Slavic country. Sigh. I miss the bowler hat...
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
Man, you can't mess with Mxyzptlk. He's only fun exactly as he is.
And the bowler is necessary.
Dagonee
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
errm... Basicly, the stories' messages have been that temptations crop up, and people can resist them.
While Smallville writers do imply a LOT of sexual desire -- frankly I can't see how one could write about teens (or early20s for Lex) without acknowleging such desire -- the central characters always resist such temptation. Even when a central character's self-control is overcome by krytonite/drugs/magic/etc, the object of their desire realizes that something is off and refuses to give in to the mutual temptation. Even when self-control is artificially overcome in both, a circumstance interrupts fulfillment.
As far as can be inferred, the only central character (other than Mama&PapaKent and BigDaddyLuthor) who isn't a virgin is LexLuthor, and he married his sexual partner
Admittedly, some villains are portrayed as having had some experience and willing to gain some more, but the central characters targeted somehow slip the noose (except Lex who married the sex-trap). And who knows what happened between the extras at various parties. But they aren't held as examples in the plotlines.
So far, the writers of Smallville haven't fallen into the mistake which quickly killed other popular&quirky shows with similar mutual-attraction between central characters -- eg NorthernExposure , Moonlighting , Lois&Clark , etc -- by having them hook up as a couple. Seeing sexual tension between people who see each other as very attractive and how they deal with it is INTERESTING. Watching their sexual activity and the aftermath is boring; which is why soap operas constantly have couples cheating on each other, switching lovers.
Reality is we all face temptation (not just sexual) on a fairly regular basis. And we all regularly choose to not indulge because we think ahead to what the consequences might be to ourselves, to others, to what we think of ourselves, to what others might think of us, etc. And so, it's easier to empathize with characters who have the object of their desire within their grasp, and then have to struggle with whether that is what they really want. And rewarding to see them make the right choice considering the circumstances, especially when the right choice conflicts with the desire. In many ways, it's validation that we made the right choice when we refused to give in to our own temptations.
[ November 11, 2004, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by Lupus (Member # 6516) on :
they actually pointed out this week that at the very least Lana and Clark are virgins. The witch who took over lana needed the hair of two virgins...she used lana's hair and clark's hair.
(it turns out that Lois's hair was no good though )
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Lois' hair streaks.
[ November 11, 2004, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
I had checked in on Smallville tonight. You guys kept telling me this show is softcore porn but I didn't believe you until today.
BTW, why is Lois in high school?
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
Because she failed her last semester of HS...I think.
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
Aspectre, your post is awesome.
I haven't seen the show since the first season.
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Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
Human. That question has been bugging me for hours.
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Human. That question has been bugging me for hours.