2. Please tell us your gender so we know if you are just hopelessly guessing. Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Yes.
-Trevor
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
Chocolate.
(male)
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
happiness
Male
Posted by foundling (Member # 6348) on :
respect
Female ( Beren)
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
(So which one do they want, respect or Beren?)
Posted by foundling (Member # 6348) on :
(what, they cant have both???)
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Everything.
Male.
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
(foundling: No self-respecting woman would date me. )
(Lyrhawn: best. answer. ever.)
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Freud.
I'm male.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I think that it's rather telling that it's mostly men who have posted here.
What most women want cannot be simplified into a single word.
EDIT: Having said that, I am enjoying this thread.
[ April 02, 2005, 10:39 PM: Message edited by: Teshi ]
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
*grins* I was waiting for a woman's perspective on an impossible question.
-Trevor
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
individuality
Still male
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
Teshi, then isn't "Freud" the true answer?
Answer: No, the real one is "empathy/long-hair".
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
Hard for one word answer, indeed.
Gyah, I can't put it in one word curse it!
(Respect is the closest word to how I want to put it... but it's been taken.)
*cheats*
To be understood and cared for.
*A joking one.*
omnipitance
(Male.)
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
A man.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Chocolate
Male
Posted by foundling (Member # 6348) on :
Wow. Ironically enough, I am learning so much more about men on this thread than you all are learning about women. And what I'm learning is starting to lean me closer and closer to the other side.... where's that "ElJay, will you go out with me" thread?
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
kwan
(male)
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
money
(female)
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
I just realized that the third post in this thread is the same as my previous post. However, I believe it's the cloesest we'll get to the answer of this topic, so a double-post is all good.
And what's kwan?
Posted by rav (Member # 7595) on :
peace. male.
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
"Kwan.... It means love, respect, community, and the dollars too." Yes, it's a cheater word, and I'm a cheater. Posted by foundling (Member # 6348) on :
(Psst... Beren, maybe thats why you cant find a woman to go out with. We tend not to like cheaters...)
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
sovereignty
(female)
[ April 03, 2005, 01:22 AM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
What else but savoir-faire?
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
ooooh Claudia...we will be dissecting this answer at length.
-Trevor
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
The same thing everyone wants Pinky, to take over the world.
Hobbes Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Hobbes, you're dead on.
as for me personally, I want to be needed.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
and loved unconditionally. I mean, adored. Completely.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
and....well. The 'everything' answer seems to sum it up. Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
backrubs (female)
[ April 03, 2005, 01:15 AM: Message edited by: mimsies ]
Posted by Lady Jane (Member # 7249) on :
Ooooo...ditto!
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
foundling, you should see me play scrabble. Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
oh Oh OH! and a T-Rex skull replica (not one word, but one item)
(nerd)
Posted by foundling (Member # 6348) on :
Beren, people who cheat at scrabble go strate to hell. That said, I take every opportunity I have to memorize my trivial pursuit cards. And, I've never been beaten at poker. But thats just plain talent.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Female.
Posted by Stan the man (Member # 6249) on :
I can't do one word: The moon, the stars, diamonds, jewelry, their every wish fulfilled, to be spoiled, back rubs, to be listened too, to go shopping, to be loved, to feel needed, a new pair of shoes every other day.
I think some of those may actually be close to true.
Male.
Posted by mimsies (Member # 7418) on :
that whole long list and you left off a T-rex skull? sheesh...
Posted by urbanX (Member # 1450) on :
I don't know
(male)
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Neck-kisses.
(But only from the right man. )
(female)
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
appreciation
though I don't believe that this is all, it is just an item that hasn't already been included on the list.
(XX)That's female in chromosome talk
BOH- Soooo, turn about's fair play. What do men want women to want?
(editted because there was already a thread about what men want.)
[ April 03, 2005, 03:17 AM: Message edited by: LadyDove ]
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
What do men want women to want?
Men. Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
Laughter
(Female)
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
hey lookie, dh and I agree
a man
(female, if there ever was any doubt)
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Me
(male)
Posted by Jane_Lane (Member # 7665) on :
Everything.
Or failing that, World Domination will do nicely.
(female).
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
A nice MLT, Mutton Lettuce and Tomato, where the tomato is nice and crisp and....
Checking, yep, still male.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
So, so, so amused by the number of men attempting to answer this.
I say, it's different for every woman; if you want to know what a particular woman wants, ask her.
Respect, however, is an excellent place to start.
And if you went to the movie Carrie referenced looking for answers, you're totally lost. Nothing, NOTHING in that movie represented how women actually think.
And, incidentally, I may be nitpicking here, but I think in Jerry Maguire, "kwan" was a French-ified pronunciation of the word "coin." Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*starts to sing "All that She Wants" by Ace of Base*
Oh, wait, that's just one woman.
Well, I'd say that there's no one thing, although unconditional love is pretty good. If you've got unconditional love, respect (if you're earning it) and caring kind of follow.
Female (duh).
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
With respect Megan, I'm pretty sure the men responding are well aware of just how much we don't know.
Our answers are meant to be amusing, cheeky or bitter but not honest.
The basic question was hopelessly flawed to begin with.
-Trevor
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
attention
Posted by Happy Camper (Member # 5076) on :
Me.
Oh, wait, that's not right...
Posted by Darth Ender (Member # 7694) on :
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
WIDTH (Whatever I Don't Truthfully Have)
Checking again, and people are begining to whisper about me, but yep--still Male.
Posted by Choobak (Member # 7083) on :
Can i suggest Love ?
I didn't view this ansver before...
(male)
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
quote: ♫ "How to handle a woman, There’s a way said a wise old man, A way know by every woman, Since the whole rigmarole began! Do I flatter her, I begged him answer, Do I threaten or cajole or plea, Do I brood or play the gay romancer? Said he, smiling, "No, indeed!" "How to handle a woman, Mark me well, I will tell you sir! The way to handle a woman, Is to love her, simply love her, Merely love her, love her, Love her!" ♪
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Pfffft.
-Trevor
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
To be understood.
Which, I understand, poses a problem for males.
(female)
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
Security.
(female)
Posted by Choobak (Member # 7083) on :
Security... Interesting, but i don't think. I am a single, 1m91 talled, very large souldered, financially welled man. If it was security, why women aren't on my foot ?
I persist with Love with a big "L".
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Because women like to be wooed? Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
And humble, Choobak.
-Trevor
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Seriously Bev - I think French women have higher wooing standards than most.
I watched a couple of French guys try to get back in their dearest's good graces.
I don't know what they were saying, but some tones are universal.
-Trevor
Posted by Choobak (Member # 7083) on :
heuu... What is woo ? i don't understand... Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
quote:1 : to sue for the affection of and usually marriage with : COURT 2 : to solicit or entreat especially with importunity 3 : to seek to gain or bring about intransitive senses : to court a woman
Here it means "to court a woman;" i.e., to please her as best you can in order to bring her to consent to marriage. Or, perhaps, less honorable motives.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
quote: Seriously Bev - I think French women have higher wooing standards than most.
Hmmm, maybe Choobak needs to learn the art of the serenade?
Posted by Choobak (Member # 7083) on :
Do you want to read all my poetry ? Many friends (and here) think it is not so bad. And i am musician too Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
Choobak, I think you're getting a different sense of security than I meant. I don't mean physical or financial security.
I mean emotional security.
I want to feel confident in my love for that person and confident in their love for me. Sure that they'll be right there beside me tomorrow, next week, or next year. Stability is a similar word, though I think security is a stronger feeling of the same.
Posted by ChaosTheory (Member # 7069) on :
Control.
(Male)
Posted by Choobak (Member # 7083) on :
ô, nuance of language i don't understand what you say... Finally, we said the same thing... when i said love, i included this feeling of security.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Women want a man that can take care of himself, particularly after the kiddies arrive.
Men want women that understand their really just big kids themselves.
(Beren, darling - time to come home now and pick up your dirty socks. )
Of course, my dad liked to play this song during my impressionable youth:
So, maybe I'm just soured . . . Posted by Misha McBride (Member # 6578) on :
King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him, but was moved by Arthur's youth and ideals. So the monarch offered him freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question.
Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer; if, after a year, he still had no answer, he would be put to death.
The question: What do women really want?
Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man, and to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query. But, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end.
He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everybody: the princess, the prostitutes, the priests, the wise men, and the court jester. He spoke with everyone, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer.
Many people advised him to consult the old witch - only she would know the answer. The price would be high; the witch was famous throughout the kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged. Finally, the last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no alternative but to talk to the witch.
She agreed to answer the question, but he had to accept her price first.
The old witch wanted to marry Gawain, the most notable of the Knights of the Round Table and Arthur's closest friend!
Young Arthur was horrified: she was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one tooth, smelled like sewage, made obscene noises ... etc. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature. He refused to force his friend to marry her and have to endure such a burden. Gawain, upon learning of the proposal, spoke with Arthur.
He told him that nothing was too big a sacrifice compared to Arthur's life and the preservation of the Round Table. Hence, their wedding was proclaimed, and the witch answered Arthur's question thus:
What a woman really wants is to be in charge of her own life.
Everyone instantly knew tha t the witch had uttered a great truth and that Arthur's life would be spared. And so it was. The neighboring monarch granted Arthur total freedom.
What a wedding Gawain and the witch had! Arthur was torn between relief and anguish. Gawain was proper as always, gentle and courteous. The old witch put her worst manners on display, and generally made everyone very uncomfortable. The fateful hour approached. Gawain, steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom. But what a sight awaited him!
The most beautiful woman he had ever seen lay before him! The astounded Gawain asked what had happened.
The beauty replied that since he had been so kind to her when she'd appeared as a witch, she would henceforth be her horrible, deformed self half the time, and the other half, she would be her beautiful maiden self.
Which would he want her to be during the day, and which during the night?
What a cruel question! Gawain pondered his predicament. During the day, a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his home, an old witch? Or would he prefer having by day a hideous witch, but by night a beautiful woman with whom to enjoy many intimate moments?
What would you do? (Pause awhile and do not read on until you have made your own choice).
Noble Gawain replied that he would let her choose for herself.
Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time, because he had respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life.
[ April 03, 2005, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: Misha McBride ]
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
This theme replays itself so consistently . . . one wonders when and where things changed so that women no longer had that freedom . . .
*wanders off musing on history to fold laundry and make beds*
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Which is a horribly tacky moral lesson for young women.
-Trevor
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
life
female
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Which? The theme, or the housework?
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
The story.
-Trevor
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
If we have to generalize, I would say that what women really want is for people to care what they want.
Posted by FriscoProofKatAlias (Member # 7691) on :
Aw...I agree with that.
Posted by Cow-Eating Man (Member # 4491) on :
Could that be generalized to "people"?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
No. Generalizing again, I think men want to get what they want. I think women merely want people to want them to get what they want, which is not quite the same thing.
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
I'm not convince you can lump women together. I think a better question is, "What's the one important quality with which men, uniformily, are stingy?"
[ April 03, 2005, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: Irami Osei-Frimpong ]
Posted by FriscoProofKatAlias (Member # 7691) on :
Are you reading the same thread? Need does not necessitate a villian.
Posted by Cow-Eating Man (Member # 4491) on :
So women also want to get what they want, but what they want is to have people want them to get it?
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
quote:Are you reading the same thread? Need does not necessitate a villian.
Maybe, but I don't know if women have that much in common with each other besides the same jive that they get from men.
Posted by foundling (Member # 6348) on :
Everyone instantly knew that Tom had uttered a great truth and that Christys' life would be good. And so it was.
Seriously Tom, that one made me scratch my head, and then grin, and then laugh out loud at how right it sounded.
Posted by FriscoProofKatAlias (Member # 7691) on :
The only thing they have in common is a common enemy? Baloney.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:I think women merely want people to want them to get what they want, which is not quite the same thing.
If that's what women want, then they want to get what they want.
*circuits spark, logic unit fries, robot's head asplodes*
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
quote:The only thing they have in common is a common enemy? Baloney.
The only thing that they have in common that is distinct from a "What do men want?" Or "What do people want" thread.
I think women are astoundingly diverse, and the only want they have in common, that they don't share as being a member of the human race, matches up with a deficiency in men. The entire question is, "What do women, as women, want in a relationship, but know that they may get."
[ April 03, 2005, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: Irami Osei-Frimpong ]
Posted by Cow-Eating Man (Member # 4491) on :
i so beat you to it. guess i just wanted it more.
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
quote:Beren, darling - time to come home now and pick up your dirty socks.
Of course. What are househusbands for.
quote:I think women are astoundingly diverse, and the only want they have in common, that they don't share as being a member of the human race, matches up with a deficiency in men. The entire question is, "What do women, as women, want in a relationship, but know that they may get.
I started this thread because I was interested in finding out how many people would assume that the thing women want would come from men.
Are there things that women would want as a group that does not come from a deficiency in men? Perhaps things related to motherhood, emotional security, equality, and, as Tom suggested, empathy?
I guess emotional security and equality can be attributed to male deficiency as well. As for parenthood, are there concerns that a mother has for a family that is different from those of a father?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Shan, I've always enjoyed the line about the little sister in that song. Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Snuggling, I hope, Beren!
What DO husbands want? (Not boyfriends, not lovers, husbands. I think there is a difference there . . . )
Edit to add: KQ - me too! A thoroughly funny song. Slightly depraved, true . . . but funny!
[ April 04, 2005, 01:02 AM: Message edited by: Shan ]
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
quote:I think men want to get what they want. I think women merely want people to want them to get what they want
This is so key. Most of the married women I talk with want to be part of a team. They want to be an equal part of a team, no greater, but no less significant than their husband.
Funny thing is that the "no greater" part is just as important as the "no less" part. And I agree completely.
The women I know would gladly give-up a night's sleep, deprive themselves of material things or go through emotional turmoil if they knew that they weren't being forced to do it and that their teammate was always on their side.
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
quote: "How to handle a woman, There’s a way said a wise old man, A way know by every woman, Since the whole rigmarole began! Do I flatter her, I begged him answer, Do I threaten or cajole or plea, Do I brood or play the gay romancer? Said he, smiling, "No, indeed!" "How to handle a woman, Mark me well, I will tell you sir! The way to handle a woman, Is to love her, simply love her, Merely love her, love her, Love her!"
This song was posted farther up, but I'd just like to comment on the " " Personally, I think this song hits the nail squarely on the head. It probably didn't at the time when it was written -- because given society at the time, "love" meant little more than "i'm attracted to and concerned about you"
But now that love has developed as a term to include respecting, honoring, listening to, learning form, and generally working with the person you love, I don't find the song in the slightest bit condescending to the "emotional female"
I tear up every time I hear it because it's a simple truth -- all women really want is someone who loves them -- when love is given freely and worked towards every day.
Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
quote:The way to handle a woman, Is to love her, simply love her, Merely love her, love her, Love her!
Tried that. Wasn't enough.
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
*checks*
Whew, I don't have a snuggling deficiency. Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
Alcon, that advice only works when both parties are singing the tune Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
Aye indeed it does. And for a while we were. And there is no feeling like that in the world.
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
(((Alcon)))
you'll sing again Posted by Zotto! (Member # 4689) on :
Judging by the many different answers given by women in this thread, I would say that it's pretty obvious individual women want different things and generalizing them into a category based on their anatomy is pretty silly.
I would say that the only thing women want that men do NOT want are things that apply exlusively to women: no menstrual cycle, less pain in childbirth, etc...but then, even those desires are predicated by the assumption that human individuals do not like nausea or pain.
I know for a fact that singling out "what women want" as if women as a group want something different than men has no meaning, since I as a man want many of the things women in this thread want. In other words, women are rather extraordinarily like HUMAN BEINGS who want similar things as each other. The fact that countless years of cultural stereotypes work against people by separating them into groups based on gender even when gender is not the driving issue behind whatever topic is being discussed should not dictate what an individual woman wants.
Women and men are different, obviously. Our anatomy is quite distinct, even our thought processes and brains are wired differently. So what? How we think a thought should not be as important as the actual thought that we have. Why separate ourselves into teams based on nonsensical rules founded on nothing but our physical make-up? Just so we can have a sense of comraderie that utterly cannot be denied, since the evidence of how each person was picked for the team is in plain sight?
I, as a man, can relate exclusively to another man who doesn't enjoy cleaning up after wet dreams, or getting kicked in the kintamas, simply because these ARE experiences denied women. Only another man can have them. I can relate, as a heterosexual, to another heterosexual male who has been dumped by a female. However, I might not relate to the REASONS for the dumping, since each relationship is between two individuals who are different people than me and the females I have had a romantic relationship with, and the only thing me and my buddy might have in common in that sense is that we were both dumped by a female. Such physical things, however, are the only aspects of which I can honestly say I ONLY relate to other men with. EVERY other topic raised in this thread (security, emotional connection, willful love that doesn't become a means of control over another person, working with a partner as a team, etc) cannot be applied to women alone, because I KNOW other men besides me who want some of the same things, and I KNOW other women who I, as a man, can relate to.
It's not a case of having a mutual enemy to bond over. It's about having shared desires that aren't confined to either gender.
Besides which, even if there is such a thing as a non-physical-makeup desire that all women share, the question should then really be whether all women should want it. *grin*
So. Did I use enough italics?
Edit: Oh holy crap, I totally did not mean to write an essay. Weird. O_O
[ April 04, 2005, 04:17 AM: Message edited by: Zotto! ]
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
quote:I would say that the only thing women want that men do NOT want are things that apply exlusively to women: no menstrual cycle,
No no. We don't want women to have their menstrual cramps either.
Good post Zotto. I think most of us would agree that there are many men out there who also want security, emotional connection, sovereignty, understanding, empathy, love, and yes, even other men.
But do those words always mean the exact the same thing to both sexes? Take sovereignty for example. When a woman talks about sovereignty, she might be more likely to place an emphasis on economic independence from her spouse or reproductive control.
Of course, a lot of men want those things too. But throughout history, women have traditionally been marginalized in political and economic spheres. Given that background, would a woman be more likely to place a different meaning on sovereignty?
I hope my first post didn't offend anyone. Of course no one word can correctly describe a group. I limited the response to one word simply because I wanted to quickly gauge how many people would attach female needs to what males can (or cannot) offer. However, I do believe that there are certain things that women are more likely to place a higher importance on (I stand by the chocolate).
P.S. If women want the exact same thing as men, I'm giving Shan a big screen TV for Valentine's day.
[ April 04, 2005, 04:57 AM: Message edited by: Beren One Hand ]
Posted by Zotto! (Member # 4689) on :
quote:No no. We don't want women to have their menstrual cramps either.
*ponders*
quote: Throughout history, women have traditionally been marginalized in political and economic spheres. Given that background, would a woman be more likely to place a different meaning on sovereignty?
I think what I'm trying to say, Beren, is that even though females have been generalized in such ways in the past so that based on their inherent um, femaleness it is possible to categorize them as wanting the same thing, these desires are not inherent in the gender. If men had been in the same situation, though there would be key differences in the way that they expressed their desires, it would not mean that those desires are exclusive and inherent in the male gender. Merely that it was men and not women who were being repressed or whatever. *Monty Python flashbacks* Might there not be analogous desires in males, regardless of the physical causes, such that saying one of these desires is ONLY felt by females is meaningless?
Hmm. Does that negate the meaning of separating ANYthing, though, if such things aren't considered inherent and separate? Am I talking in circles? I think I've lost myself in my own semantics. *laugh*
(BTW, I for one, was not offended by the thread, since the reasons you gave for starting it are pretty much what I figgered. *grin*)
Edit: jeez, that was a ridiculously incoherent post. *grovel*
[ April 04, 2005, 05:17 AM: Message edited by: Zotto! ]
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
quote:Hmm. Does that negate the meaning of separating ANYthing, though, if such things aren't considered inherent and separate? Am I talking in circles? I think I've lost myself in my own semantics
I understand what you're saying. It was very well put. Posted by Zotto! (Member # 4689) on :
Thank goodness. *laugh*
Edit: and thanks, btw. Communicating intelligently is one of my weak points.
[ April 04, 2005, 05:31 AM: Message edited by: Zotto! ]
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
You so lie.
You communicate quite intelligently.
Now, putting yourself down without good cause, that would be one of your weak points. Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
quote: I hope my first post didn't offend anyone.
I wasn't offended. I just figured that you and other guys wanted to know what women want so you can better know how to fulfill their needs. That's really sweet.
So then you can get what you want.
And I don't mean sex. OK, not *just* sex.
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
What do women want?
They want little tokens of appreciation from their significant others - little things that say "I'm thinking of you."
They want compliments to reassure them that you're as much in love today as the first day.
They want you to help around the house because it is, honestly, too much for one person.
They want affection for affection's sake.
They want you to show an interest in what they like.
They want you to listen to them and demonstrate the fact you're listening besides grunting yes and no.
They want you to value them as a partner, a life-mate and a much needed necessity in your life.
Being financially responsible is a plus.
Realize she is still a person and has wants, needs and desires - even after the first three months of dating.
I think I hit most of the basics.
-Trevor
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
1. Eew. 2. Ugh. 3. Why should it be the woman who needs help around the house? 4. Puke. 5. I'm not gonna pretend to care about football, so he better not pretend to care about anything I like. if he likes it, he likes it, if he doesn't, he doesn't. 6. Grunting is just as effective as long drawn out responses that say just as much as a simple "Errr." 7. Sounds kinda needy. 8. Well yes. 9. Yes yes, we woman are people too.
There's a reason why I'm single methinks *giggle*
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
With respect Myrd, if you don't fall into the above categories, I can't imagine why you are single.
-Trevor
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
*laugh*
Oh, and womEn. I meant women. Grammar Good.
edit: sadly the list seems to fit most females I know.
[ April 04, 2005, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: MyrddinFyre ]
Posted by Crotalus (Member # 7339) on :
I think wants are prone to differ, but (speaking generally here) I do know what their number one need is.
Number one need for females = Security.
And in case you're wondering. For males it's Respect.
(I'm male btw)
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Crotalus, with respect, that's a load of hooey.
At least, it's not even in my top 5 with regards to needs. No, I don't really know what they are, but that ain't one of them.
(female)
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Here, here Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Where, there?
If I had to pick one blanket, general female need, want and/or desire, I'd go with "emotional support" as being paramount.
-Trevor
Posted by Crotalus (Member # 7339) on :
I said GENERALLY SPEAKING. That was to avert the backlash that came anyway. Those who backlashed can consider yourselves the exception. And I stand by my original statement.
Posted by Cow-Eating Man (Member # 4491) on :
I'm starting to think women don't want men making blanket statements. Is that true of all of you?
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
But what if we are not the exception but the rule? How would you know? How would we know?
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
Seems that way, CEM
Specially when they don't apply to us! We will not be generalized! *shakes fist*
Posted by TMedina (Member # 6649) on :
Yes! How dare us generalize a private issue. Clearly, that's rank abuse.
-Trevor
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Don'tKnowDon'tCare (see, one word!)
Seriously, trying to find some likely-ineffable property constantly guiding one person in love, much less half of all people, is something I decided to (and did) give up on.
I try to live life lovely, and be happy, and support those I love in the same pursuits. I strive for a complex understanding, and realize that happiness one day might mean sadness the next, which only means new happiness must be found.
The question is, of course, not entirely serious, but I think the posts in this thread illustrate how complex it can be to be (intentionally, sometimes amusingly) shallow.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
I've got it now!
Generally speaking, women do not want to be generalized!
(Still male, at least... last I checked.)
Posted by Jonathan Howard (Member # 6934) on :
quote: Still male, at least... last I checked.
Check all the time!!!
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Beren, m'dear, make it a pool table and all is well . . .
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