Why didn't obi-wan kill vader and then together him and Yoda could have wiped out the sith lord?
A question to ponder.
Posted by IdemosthenesI (Member # 862) on :
He pretty much did. Leaving somebody, limbless and on fire, alone on a deserted lava planet, four feet from a stream of molten rock is pretty much killing them. He didn't know Palpatine was on his way. I think a better question is:
Why didn't Anakin just send Padme to get a freakin' C-section?!
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I guess it's a dippiness factor, the good guys can't just kill the bad guys and get rid of them, no, that would just be wrong... Other stories do that, I guess without such a cliche certain stories would not exist.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
"He's like a brother to me. I can't kill him."
Or words to that effect.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I actually thought that was well done. He was at Obi-Wan's mercy, and Obi-Wan, having maimed him and left him to burn, just couldn't bring himself to actually kill him; he could only stand the burden as long as Anakin was the one who really did it to himself. Obi-Wan only cut him up when he had no other choice. I thought that was really good. And Ewan McGregor was sooooo good. He's really a great actor.
quote:I think a better question is:
Why didn't Anakin just send Padme to get a freakin' C-section?!
Yes. Exactly! That is just the beginning of my rant about the problems I had with that pregnancy, though; see my comments on it in the spoilers thread.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
If Obi-Wan had killed Vader, we wouldn't have had 4-6 to watch . . . jeesh!
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
quote:Leaving somebody, limbless and on fire, alone on a deserted lava planet, four feet from a stream of molten rock is pretty much killing them.
Is it so wrong that I laughed at this?
Posted by The Silverblue Sun (Member # 1630) on :
quote: Leaving somebody, limbless and on fire, alone on a deserted lava planet, four feet from a stream of molten rock is pretty much killing them.
Sure. but the key word is SOMEBODY.
Darth Vader isn't just SOMEBODY.
Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
Obviously not. He isn't some body because he doesn't even HAVE his whole body. Geez...
Posted by tern (Member # 7429) on :
quote:
quote: Leaving somebody, limbless and on fire, alone on a deserted lava planet, four feet from a stream of molten rock is pretty much killing them.
Is it so wrong that I laughed at this?
When watching the movie, or when reading it?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
"Why didn't Anakin just send Padme to get a freakin' C-section?!"
It WAS a long, long time ago. Maybe contraceptive and/or advanced natal technology doesn't exist, all their efforts in that regard having been devoted to accelerated cloning.
[ May 22, 2005, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
In the book I got the impression a star destroyer was squating overhead and Obi had to run. Poor Padme, what a tragedy, as she says to Anikin, "It doesn't make sense, nobody dies from child birth on (whatever the capital) He really had to get twisted up to make his vision happen!
BC (note only source is book, though 7 VHS copies are in the MWR center at Liberty!)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:"Why didn't Anakin just send Padme to get a freakin' C-section?!"
It WAS a long, long time ago. Maybe contraceptive and/or advanced natal taechnology doesn't exist, all their efforts in that regard having been devoted to accelerated cloning.
That's good. Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Sorry to switch movies, but the real question here is "Why didn't Elrond just pick up Isildur and chuck him into Mount Doom, ring and all?"
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
When Anakin jumps to Obi-Wan's metal raft thing in the lava, he has to catch his balance. One well placed kick would have done him in.
Posted by Just another Dharma bum (Member # 6879) on :
Obi Wan appears to have let his feelings cloud his judgement. When Anakin leaps onto the hill, Obi Wan has the chance to stab Anakin, but instead he swipes and cuts both legs and his remaining arm off.
He then tells Anakin: "You were the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them! I loved you Anakin, you were a brother to me!"
There's a lot of emtotion in that scene, Obi Wan's emotions got in the way of his duty, and thus clouded his judgement. He could not bring himself to kill Anakin. He was still alive when Obi Wan left, all though he was completely burned and alone on a rock. Perhaps Obi Wan thought he would entrust the Force to Anakin's fate?
Posted by The Silverblue Sun (Member # 1630) on :
I don't know the exact reason why Obi-Wan didn't kill Vader, but I am sure Obi-Wan and Yoda combined could have wiped the Sith Lord from the galaxy.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Funny: Obviously not. He isn't some body because he doesn't even HAVE his whole body. Geez...
Doesn't that mean he is some body, as in not a whole body?
Posted by Pelegius (Member # 7868) on :
The obvious reason that Obi-Wan doesn't kill Vader, despite the fact that it is out-of-charechter for him not to, is this: then there would be no episodes IV–VI
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:I guess it's a dippiness factor, the good guys can't just kill the bad guys and get rid of them, no, that would just be wrong...
Except for Mace Windu. And look where that got him.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs in a swimming pool?
Bob.
What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs hanging on the wall?
Art.
What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs in a hole?
Phil.
What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs in a pile of leaves?
Russell.
What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs lying on your front porch?
Matt.
What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs lying on a lava bed?
Darth Vader.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
When Mace got defenestrated he fell out the Windu.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
I already pointed that out, Pelegius, quite some time ago.
*nyah*
Posted by alluvion (Member # 7462) on :
*looking back over the series*
why is Obi-wan such a pussy?
1. can't stand to fly. 2. loses (get's knocked unconscious) during nearly every battle. 3. appears to best his bro-in-arms and padawan (anakin) 4. and gets sentenced to 17+ years of dilligent communing-with-the-dead in the desert on tatooine?
baffling!
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Question put to Director John Ford. "In the movie Stage Coach, which has the indians chasing the stage coach for days, why didn't the indians just shoot the horses?"
John Ford, "Because then we wouldn't have had a movie."
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Darth Sidious could've handled Obi-Wan and Anakin together and regretably killed both of them. At the time of the movie, he is by far the most powerful Force-wielder in the galaxy and is, in himself, more powerful than groups of force-wielders.
He's able to pull the wool over the eyes of the entire Council, for what, twenty years or so? His apprentices are able to fight and kill Jedi, and force all but the best of them to defeat or stalemate or bitter victory (Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan vs. Darth Maul). He's able to outfight Yoda.
Posted by The Silverblue Sun (Member # 1630) on :
I still believe Yoda and Obi-wan together would have kicked the crap out of him.
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
I know Darth Vader's really got you annoyed, But remember, if you kill him, then you'll be unemployed.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
Oh my Yo-da.
I met him in a swamp down in Dagobah. Where it bubbles all the time like a giant carbonated So-da. S-O-D-A, So-Da
I saw the little runt sitting there on a log. I asked him his name and in a raspy voice he said Yo-Da Y-O-D-A, Yo'-ho-Dah Yo-Yo-Yo-Yo-ho-Dah
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
Obi Wan witnessed first hand earlier in the story that a living brain and heart can be encased in a mechanical skeleton. Obi Wan should have taken the stub of Anakin home and used him for a cute, though whiney, centerpiece on the coffee table.
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
Why were Darth Vader's only lines in the movie so cheesy and out of character?
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
(IanO, isn't that from a Weird Al song or something? He's so crazy it's brilliant.)
The thing is, skillery, I don't think Obi-Wan would be too eager to take Annie-stub home, considering the other mechanical creature he'd witnessed was clearly a demonic, rasping, lightsaber-wielding monster out for his blood.
Doesn't really matter, though, because Anakin turned out like that anyway...
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
Yeah. "Yoda", parody of the 70's song "Lola".
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
"A jedi uses the Force for defence only, never for attack." -- Yoda
If Obi-wan had finished Anakin, it would have started him on his own journey toward the dark side.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
quote:Why were Darth Vader's only lines in the movie so cheesy and out of character?
*Spoilers*
His lines seem perfectly in character to me... for Anakin Skywalker. Just because he puts on the mask doesn't mean that he morphs into someone else. The Vader we see in the OT is the man he became after decades. So it makes sense that the first thing Anakin would do is ask about Padme and express grief at her demise. Although, I admit, screaming "NOOOOO!" is kinda cheesy.
*End Spoilers*
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
But the effect his fury had on the room was... impressive.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
![[Laugh]](graemlins/laugh.gif)
That's good. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)