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Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

Is me!

Well, almost.

I just finshed my last law exam for my last law unit. Have to wait for the result, but I'm confident I passed.

Yay! I'm done!

[Big Grin]

[ July 19, 2005, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: imogen ]

Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :

Congrats! And may you pass with flying colors!

And while you're at it, please tell us how those colors fly, unsupported. Cuz I don't understand that. At all. [Dont Know]

Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :

[Big Grin]

Yay1

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

[Smile]

The exam was horrible. 3 and a half pages of facts. Stupid Corporations.

Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :

[Hail]

So what's next? Do you have to take a bar exam (or equivalent)?

Can we hire you to handle law suits we might wish to file in Australia? Nothing specific, you know...just thinking ahead. Maybe a case against McDonalds or cigarette companies. [Wink]

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

No bar exam, but to qualify as a *real* lawyer I either have to do one year of articles (with a law firm) or two years as a judge's associate (more fun and prestigious [Smile]

) and then a year of restricted practice.

Then, in my state at least I am qualified both as a barrister and a solicitor.

I have an interview with a Federal Court judge on Friday (24th) for a position as his associate. [Big Grin]

I am really, really hoping I get it. It's a big deal, good job, good money, *great* judge to work with and a fantastic way to start my career.

Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :

Nice Job
[Hat]

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

Congrats! [Big Grin]

Please define: articles; the difference between barrister and solicitor.

Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :

Congrats!

Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :

That's fantastic, imogen! I'll keep my fingers crossed for the Federal Court judge associate position.

Now I can tell people that I know a barrister and a soliciter in Australia.

Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :

Wow! Congratulations, imogen! [The Wave]

Posted by whiskysunrise (Member # 6819) on :

Good luck!

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

Articles is a shortened version of articled clerk. It's a position with a law firm for a year in which you are a general drudge (sometimes - depends on the firm) and after which you are admitted to the legal profession as a solicitor.

Then you practice for a year in restricted practice where you are a lawyer but can't do certain things - like represent cases at court.

Then finally, you are a *real* lawyer.

Solicitor - does all the out of court stuff. Sometimes solicitors do procedural motions at court, but not the substantive arguements. Barrister - goes to court, argues before judges.

In my state (and some other states in Australia) it's a fused profession so every lawyer is automatically qualified to do both. In other states such as New South Wales, you still have to sit a bar exam to become a barrister.

In practice, people still tend to specialise, so while every lawyer *can* argue at court, most don't.

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

Thanks. [Smile]

I never have been clear on the difference.

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

[Smile]

It's really unnecessarily complicated.

Kinda like law. [Wink]

Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :

Congratulations imogen. [Smile]

Just out of curiosity, is anyone here a lawyer practicing in a non-common law country?

Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :

Yay imogen! Congratulations! [Hat]

What kind of law do you hope or plan to specialize in?

Thanks for explaining the difference between barrister and solicitor.
I looked up llb : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLB

But what does "hons" stand for? Honors?

Posted by Parsimony (Member # 8140) on :

Congratulations imogen! That's fantastic!

--ApostleRadio

Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :

Hurray for imogen! [Smile]

Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :

[Hat]

Congratulations.

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

[Smile]

Thanks, guys.

Morbo - yep, hons is honours.

I intend to specialise in international law which means I will probably live a life of quiet poverty.

But I'll have fun doing it. [Smile]

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

quote:
I intend to specialise in international law which means I will probably live a life of quiet poverty.

Maybe your husband will support you in the manner to which you wish to become accustomed!

. . . oh, wait. Nevermind.

[Wink]

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

[Razz]

I know, I know. Really should have picked someone other than a writer.

[Smile]

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

I was thinking: writer, teacher -- either way she's out of luck. [Wink]

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

At this point, a teacher's salary looks like luxury.

[Smile]

But Tony's happy and fulfilled and *so* much easier to live with - it's all good.

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

quote:
At this point, a teacher's salary looks like luxury.

Eep! Oh, but you mean college teacher, and they make rather more than HS teachers . . .

quote:
But Tony's happy and fulfilled and *so* much easier to live with - it's all good.

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

Nope, HS teacher.

Tony was previously at a private school which pays more than public HS. Plus, he'd been there for 8 years so his salary had increased somewhat.

I think Australian teachers (while still underpaid) are generally paid more than their American counterparts.

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

So, got my results.

The good news is I passed easily. [Smile]

The better news is I got first class honours in law.

The bad news is I have to wait *another* week to hear whether I have the associateship with the Federal Court Judge I want.

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

[Smile]

Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :

Congratulations! I'm not really surprised, though.

With results like that, is there any doubt that the associateship is yours?

Posted by Scythrop (Member # 5731) on :

I hope not. I'd hate for us to have to keep struggling out a living like this [Wink]

*goes back to being fulfilled and keeping Imogen in the manner to which she is becoming accustomed...*

[Big Grin]

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

Hey! I'm working here at home....

Cleaning. Yes, cleaning.

*makes third cup of tea for the morning and contemplates couch*

Posted by Scythrop (Member # 5731) on :

Mmmmmm....Couch Tea......

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

Chelsea says to tell you she did her job well this morning and whined so persistently the Lazy One (I think she means me) had no hope of a sleep-in after you left.

Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :

Are they as cute as Bob&Dana, or more so? I can't decide.

What do you think?

Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :

No-one can be as cute as Bob&Dana.