...and it's making me grumpy. We've got every friend and relative we have in SoCal going through the papers and noting phone numbers of rentals as they drive by; we've checked out every free online resource (we're not willing to pay $45 for the details on the two places out of 500 results that actually match our needs, which are probably already rented anyway.) It's really annoying sometimes. We need to have a place by August, becuase Ems and I are flying out on the 26th, staying with my mom for a week, and Jeff will be driving out with all the stuff on the 30th, to arrive around the 3rd.
Anyone know of a vacant place in Tujunga, Sunland, La Crescenta, Montrose, north Glendale, or north Burbank that doesn't cost an arm and a leg (our budget is $1300 a month tops, and that's a stretch), will accept cats, have a washer/dryer hookup or at least laundry on-site, and offer at least 2 bedrooms, 1 bath?
[ July 27, 2005, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Cool. You are flying out on my birthday.
Did you try Craigslist?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Of course. Also the Recycler website. Half of the ads aren't accurate; they advertise $1150 a month and then ask for $1900 and double that the first month for a security deposit.
*realizes she hasn't eaten all day*
*eats half a Fruit and Nut bar*
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
Sorry. Filling out applications for Japanese schools is hard. There's a test sentence for your Japanese and I can't read one word of it.
Good luck, kq.
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
Have you checked with the local ward(s) to see if someone there can help? I wish I were close enough to offer assistance. Well, I'll also be out of the country when you arrive, so that'd make it even tougher to help.
--Pop
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
Just keep looking. You'll probably fall in love with a place, and you'll just have to live in it.
Posted by Chungwa (Member # 6421) on :
I don't know you very well, but I do know how stressful it can be looking for a new living place.
Good luck. I'm sure it'll all turn out wonderful.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Sorry. Filling out applications for Japanese schools is hard. There's a test sentence for your Japanese and I can't read one word of it.
Good luck, kq.
Thanks, and I'm sorry. (((hugs)))
quote:Have you checked with the local ward(s) to see if someone there can help?
Yup, talked to my old bishop; he gave us the number of his executive secretary, who "seems to have his finger on the pulse of the housing situation". Called him, and he'll call us back next week.
quote:I wish I were close enough to offer assistance. Well, I'll also be out of the country when you arrive, so that'd make it even tougher to help.
You're so sweet. It's the thought, etc.
quote:You'll probably fall in love with a place, and you'll just have to live in it.
Unfortunately, it's not that easy. It's more about whether they'll take us, and being 1500 miles away means we can't drop by for an interview or to look a place over; we have to rely on references, phone interviews, and my family and friends.
quote:I don't know you very well, but I do know how stressful it can be looking for a new living place.
Good luck. I'm sure it'll all turn out wonderful.
Thank you. You're sweet, too. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*raises hand* I agree, to the thread title. I need to move at the end of August, and the area I was looking at is now not going to work. To live right next to work would cost about $300 more a month than I'm paying now, and to live farther away is cheaper, but doesn't help a whole lot. I only live 14 miles away right now. The halfway in between point suddenly won't work because they closed the place I was interested in living next to. I HATE house hunting.
Posted by mothertree (Member # 4999) on :
How attached are you to your cats? I bet they will cost you $100 extra a month in rent compared to what would otherwise be available.
P.S. Be glad your husband didn't choose the monkey instead of kids. That was you, right?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Actually, the places that meet our other requirements all have no problems with cats (dogs would be a different story) and most don't even charge a pet deposit. (Neither did the place we're living now.) That's a good thing, because Emma seems to think they're her brothers. And yes, that was me. Thanks for that, I needed a laugh.
Posted by Chungwa (Member # 6421) on :
I can only speak of central Illinois - but I found that, as ketchupqueen said, most landlords aren't too upset with Cats. Usually, the worst thing I found was an extra $100 at the time of the lease signing. Granted, all the places I've lived in cost less that $400 a month Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
We're talking right now with a guy who owns a small, 4-unit place, laundry on premises, 2 bedroom unit available, would have no problem with cats, is charging $945 a month (though the deposit would be a bit more), in Sunland, really close to our ideal area (we doubt we'll really land in the La Crescenta ward; the Sunland ward is the one "next door", in the same stake), and seems about willing to bend the rule he's made for himself about always meeting people in person first. My dad is going by sometime today or tomorrow to look at it before he sends out an application for us to fill out.
Maybe everyone who prays could pray for a "good wind" for us again? It seemed to work last time. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: We're talking right now with a guy who owns a small, 4-unit place, laundry on premises, 2 bedroom unit available, would have no problem with cats, is charging $945 a month (though the deposit would be a bit more), in Sunland, really close to our ideal area (we doubt we'll really land in the La Crescenta ward; the Sunland ward is the one "next door", in the same stake), and seems about willing to bend the rule he's made for himself about always meeting people in person first. My dad is going by sometime today or tomorrow to look at it before he sends out an application for us to fill out.
Maybe everyone who prays could pray for a "good wind" for us again? It seemed to work last time.
*prays*
Also, there's a Jewish notion that one who prays not only for himself, but for himself AND someone else in a similar situation, is more likely to be answered. So, will you pray that I find some place that I can afford and can live with/in too?
Danke!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Definitely! In fact, I already have been, even though I'd never heard of that notion. Have you tried the Recycler online, Rivka? That's where we've found our most promising leads.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
In all honesty, I spent a lot of time going through online ads a few months back, got burnt out, and have not looked recently.
I should. I will. *sigh* I hate this.
I have been looking at (and calling about) signs out front of places. That's how I found my best leads a couple years ago -- including the place I rented then.
Also a good source of unintended levity. "You want how much for an apartment that's a mile from where I really want to be, in a neighborhood that's not quite what I had in mind? Only double what I can afford?!?" Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Oh, I know that feeling. "Well, that's a little out of our budget." "How much? We can talk about it, although I have two people on the other line asking about the same place." "Well, actually, you want about $900 more than we'll have to spend..." *sigh*
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
New problem: even if we get into that place, we're not going to be able to afford the deposit. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*commiserates* Posted by sarahdipity (Member # 3254) on :
How much is the deposit? And, do you have a deposit on your old place? My landlady required first month, last month, and deposit. But she said that as long as we could come up w/ 2 months rent up front we could make a payment plan over a few months. Someone might let you do that. If you can fork over 2 months rent most ppl figure you're capable of paying for the place.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
The deposit is $1400. We'd have to pay that and rent for the first month, so a total of $2350 the first month. We probably won't be able to make even one month's rent, much less two and then some. We have a deposit on this place, but we're going to lose it, between the cats chewing up the blinds and the baby dumping juice on the new carpet. We have accepted that; there's no way we'll get it back. Besides, the deposit here was less than 1 month's rent, and we're only paying $695 a month here.
We are going to move. We have to move. But we'll have no place to live when we get there.
*is scared*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*hug*
You know what I hate most about apartment/house listings? Their frequin' lack of simple geography skills.
No, over a mile from an area is hardly "adjacent." >_<
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, from an area, it may be. From a landmark or specific block, no. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
No, I'm talking about places that call themselves "Beverlywood-adjacent" and are a good mile outside Beverlywood (and therefore more like 2 miles from my preferred radius).
Very annoying.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I took a break from looking at rentals to peruse one of the dating sites I am signed up for and hadn't checked for a while.
Yeah, not helping my frustration any. Just redirecting it. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
lol!
Yeah, maybe you should play some Chuzzle or something.
I probably will instead of sleeping tonight. Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
Still sorry I can't help, kq.
Rivka -- see you Wednesday night? I'll be there (probably sans family).
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
That's the plan, Pop.
kq, Chuzzle is next. Right now I'm being sociable in IRC with people I haven't spoken with in aeons.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Prayer sent to Saint Anthony on the way as I write, KQ.
I know how scary this is. We have not been there for a while, but I can remember the moments(months) of panic as if it were two minutes ago.
As Mr. Micawber always said, though, "something will turn up!"
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*is about to go look at a place that sounds perfect, and is only a little more than she can afford*
Wish me luck!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Good luck!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Definite maybe.
Must reach my dad (co-signer) for his info for the application.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Hmmm. Co-signer. That would be nice.
How does it look, location- and not-falling-apart-completely-wise?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Location is great: 0.5 mile from where I work, and less than a block from my preferred synagogue.
Size is a bit squishy, but not terrible. Layout is a bit odd (it's a garage that got made into a backhouse), but probably workable.
It looks to be in good shape -- the remodel was just finished, I gather. I have to find out if it has been wired for a phone!
I'm not counting on getting it; sounds like they've got a lot of applicants. But I'm hopeful.
[ July 11, 2005, 11:11 PM: Message edited by: rivka ]
Posted by whiskysunrise (Member # 6819) on :
Good luck to both of you (and your families).
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, we'll keep praying for you, rivka! And please do the same for us. We probably need it as bad as you do, or worse (at least temporarily worse.)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Will do.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, we got all the books sorted and either packed or marked for the yard sale.
Tomorrow, the desk and assorted clutter in the room. Wednesday night, Emma's room and the closet in ours, plus making yard sale signs.
Pretty soon all our stuff will be in boxes or gone, and we'll probably still have no place to live. *chews nails off*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I haven't started packing yet, simply because until I sign a lease, I don't know for sure if I'm moving!
Spoke to my dad. Must finish finish filling out form so I can fax it to him and he can fax it back signed.
Also, I consulted with my rabbi about an issue I was concerned about, and he says it's ok. So that's one less thing to worry about.
*prays for ketchups and self*
*hugs*
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I still must find a place. Since the place I wanted is no longer desirable, I must decide between being close to a social life, and being close to shopping and the gym, which I do almost every day. My brain is saying to go near the gym, which is also cheaper, butI don't want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*laugh* While the only reason I don't prefer "the middle of nowhere" is the issue of proximity to synagogues. Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
Oh yuck, kq. I truly hate moving, whether you're looking to rent or buy. One thing I've found is just when I get the most discouraged then something happens. With our current home I had just about given up, convinced we'd never find a place we both liked. Now we've got our dream house. I'll be crossing my fingers that things work out for all of you soon.
space opera
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Good luck kat, kq, and rivka!
I was in y'all's place last month - the Richmond housing market exploded while we were in Roanoke and everything was tiny and expensive. We ended up moving across the street from where we used to live (into a house I love) only because they gave us preference b/c we lived there for 3 years before.
Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
You're moving right to my Mom's general neighborhood. She's right near the Burbank airport. It'd be so weird if you just met her without either of you knowing that you both know me.
I'd volunteer to let you live with her, but I have a feeling that that wouldn't work out.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
dean, what's her name? I know a few people in Burbank...
I just got off the phone with my dad, then the manager guy of this place we're looking at, and then my dad again.
The manager guy is sending us an application, and seems very positive about us. So much, in fact, that he offered me an on-site manager position. The duties would be light, and pay would be $45 a month. If we were paying the $945 rent he asks, there would have been a $34 gap in our budget each month. This will eliminate the gap.
Please, everyone, keep praying this works out for us! Rivka, we're still praying for you, too. How's it going on your end?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*bumped for rivka*
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
For 10 bucks a week the duties had better be light.
But since it fills the hole in your budget, I hope it works out for you.
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
Try attempting to rent an apartment with two cats and five ferrets...for less than $750 Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Since ferrets are illegal in CA, I wouldn't.
quote:For 10 bucks a week the duties had better be light.
But since it fills the hole in your budget, I hope it works out for you.
Thanks. Duties would be making sure there's no trash on the ground or anything, watering the grass once every couple of days (there's not much grass), monitoring the situation-- like, making sure that people aren't breaking the noise rules and if they are, notifying the owner if they won't stop-- and very occasionally showing an apartment (people tend to live there a long time, and there are only 10 units, so very very occasional), but not doing the paperwork or anything, just showing and answering questions. Not bad at all, and since I'm going to be home all the time anyway, right up my alley.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Sorry, I was at a book signing, and then dinner.
I got my application in, with all the Ts and Is dotted and crossed. Now I wait to hear back, and try to find the time to call about a few other places.
I'll keep praying for y'all. The managing gig sounds like it should work well for you. Is that a $45 credit against your rent, or is it a (taxable) salary?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
It's a rent concession, AFAIK. Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
ketchup-- her name is Susa Taylor. I believe she attends the North Hollywood ward.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Mmmm, nope. Haven't met her to know her, although if she sings, I may have been in a 5-stake women's conference choir with her once. If not, she and I probably both attended it, but didn't spend any time together. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*trying not to be too excited*
Never heard back about the other place, and not sure I want it. The more I think about the layout, space issue, and cost . . .
HOWEVER, yesterday I put concerted effort into looking for other places, cruising around the area near school. The place that looked most likely is a 3-bed, 2-bath a block and a half from school -- and a block from a synagogue that I would be quite happy attending. Also, a couple blocks from my eldest's good friend that she hasn't seen much of since she switched schools.
I just checked my voicemail, and she's asking almost $300 less than the other place -- only $100 more than the place I was in until this year (which was a very good deal -- for around here, at least). She gave me a number that she works at, but no one's there yet.
I am planning to set up an appointment to see the place later.
*prays hard*
kq, I gather from another thread that the place you were talking about hasn't worked out, at least yet? I've been praying for you guys too. May we hear good news on that front soon!
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I forgot to update. I found a place, three miles from work, two miles from the gym, same price as I'm paying for an order of magnitude nicer of an apartment. I guess there are compensations for not living downtown anymore. The only drawbacks is that I'm not in Coccinelle's ward, and I'm pretty far from any social life. On the upside, very close to shopping and there's a park across the street - I may even be able to go for a walk by myself, something I can't do in my current neighborhood. All in all, I'm happy.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
stupid question - Does what ward you're in determine where you go to church? For some reason hearing ya'll talk about what ward you're in reminds me of public school zones. (not meant to be flippant)
If you, say, don't like the people in a ward can you go somewhere else?
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Yes, where you live does determine which ward you're in and thus where you go to church (though there are usually two or three wards that meet in the same building at staggered times).
Going to another ward if you don't like yours is frowned upon, but I don't think it's really prohibited, per se. I think they'd rather have you going to church with a different ward than not going at all.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Jon Boy is right. I'm in a different stake from Coccinelle altogether now, so I'd go to the singles ward for that stake.
They cracked down recently on ward-hopping, which is what going to a different ward than the one for your geographic area is. When you ward hop, you rarely get a calling (job) in the ward because your records are not there with the ward. You can get permission to go to a different ward and get your records transferred, but the threshold depends on the bishop. I'm not exactly sure how that works - I haven't done it.
My ward in Dallas would be much, much bigger if half the people in our boundries weren't going to the larger suburban wards.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Rivka, no, it's not quite worked out yet. And if it is, we'll still be short on the deposit-- Jeff's employer did not send him as much for moving expenses as he had indicated he would. But I'm glad things are looking up for you! *prays some more*
quote:They cracked down recently on ward-hopping, which is what going to a different ward than the one for your geographic area is. When you ward hop, you rarely get a calling (job) in the ward because your records are not there with the ward. You can get permission to go to a different ward and get your records transferred, but the threshold depends on the bishop.
Fairly understandably, I think this is a bigger problem in singles and college wards than in family wards. But it does happen in family wards, too-- however, having done it, I can tell you if you have not had your records transferred, but have talked to the bishop of the ward you're attending, you may not get a calling, but you may still be assigned visiting and home teachers from that ward.
quote:Going to another ward if you don't like yours is frowned upon, but I don't think it's really prohibited, per se. I think they'd rather have you going to church with a different ward than not going at all.
On the nose, there. We were in one ward that I could not stand, to the point where I broke down crying one Sunday, couldn't stop (not that almost anyone showed any concern) and refused to go back to that ward again. (I was also pregnant at the time, so probably extra-emotional; the stress in the ward caused me to start bleeding again, which had stopped in the first trimester after a month of bedrest-- I was near the end of the second at the time.) We visited other wards, found one we were comfortable attending who welcomed us, talked to the bishop (we'd notified our bishop when we left), who talked to our bishop. Our bishop, who was part of the problem in the ward I was in, refused to let us transfer our records. The bishop in the ward we were attending welcomed us anyway and assigned home and visiting teachers, and made us feel like a real part of the ward. I was even invited to join the choir (which the bishop sang in.) It was a wonderful experience, and we stayed there until we moved into a ward where I was happy to resume going to church in the ward we lived in.
The reason wards are set up that way is because the bishop is responsible for the welfare of people living within his ward boundaries. It's not supposed to be about the congregation themselves, but about taking care of the people within it. Unfortunately, that doesn't always work like it should. Hence our unfortunate situation in the ward I refused to attend anymore.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
It does help with taking care of everyone. When people go to wards that aren't where their records are, then they could stop going and no one would notice. The ward with their records could assume they are going to the other one, and the other one wouldn't have any record that they are supposed to be there. People fall through the cracks that way.
People fall through the cracks a lot of times, anyway, sadly.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Yes.
The ward we were suppposed to be attending had about 0.7 convert baptisms a year and a total 45% inactivity rate.
Those are NOT good numbers, and I know why they are the way they are.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think the 45% inactivity rate is typical in the USA. Most wards have about half the members on the roles active at any one time.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
All the other ones I've been in have had a 25% inactivity rate or less.
(I'm not counting people who have been gone so long they don't even make it into the ward directory.)
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I'm not sure who has the official statistics. I do know that 45% activity rate is not unusual at all.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Maybe I've just been in unusually caring, wonderful wards. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Or maybe they don't keep track of the people who don't come. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Like I said, these are my calculations, not the official ones (which I don't have access to.)
Let's just say that this ward was a lot emptier than most wards I've attended.
[ July 21, 2005, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: ketchupqueen ]
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I have now seen the place. It is not perfect -- there is no yard whatsoever, and the street gets a LOT of traffic, so the kids playing out front is likely to be a problem. OTOH, my kids are all bookworms anyway. Also, it has no balcony or any other place for my plants, unless I figure out an indoors spot. The layout is considerably better than the other place I looked at, and it's a first-floor apartment (my old place was 3rd floor -- but it did have a great balcony). I think it's slightly smaller than my old place, but not much.
I took an application, and am very hopeful about the place. Which is good, because the rent of every other place I've called made me either laugh or cry.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
I lived in a ward with a 25–30 percent activity rate. My parents now live in a ward that has to be at least 75 percent active, I'd guess. I think there's one non-member house in the ward boundaries.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
My branch has about 16% activity rate for the women in the Relief Society. I don't know about the branch as a whole, but I imagine it's pretty close or possibly worse. But then, from what I've heard, this is pretty close to accurate for the district as a whole. Sadly, we have a number of new people baptized every year, and it still doesn't help to increase the numbers who attend church.
Rivka & ketchupqueen, I hope you both get it resolved soon.
Posted by Psycho Triad (Member # 3331) on :
See, the problem Becky and I have is that we don't have a terrible ammount of money, and neither of us have any sort of credit (good or bad). That, and we need an apartment that will allow us to alleviate AJ's burden of our dog.
But GREAT news! We just found an apartment after a couple of weeks of searching. We're going to go look into applying tomorrow. Yay!
Crazy as always, Psychotriad
Posted by KetchupPrinceConsort (Member # 8047) on :
KQ saw the apartment in Sunland today and fell in love with it. She is signing the lease papers today!
It is on the 1st floor! That is always a plus when you don't have a washer/dryer in the unit.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Wow. Congrats you guys!
Something must be in the air. I'm going to look at an apartment this afternoon that's really close to the high school where I'll be teaching this fall. I have a feeling I'll be singing an contract this afternoon too!
Here's to moving and finding a happy space in which to live!!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Congrats!
I am waiting to get a definite yes, but I have a tentative one.
We're (most likely) signing papers on Sunday . . .
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
<Brings bread, so you will never be hungry, salt, so your live will always have flavor and ketchup, because you abstain from wine.>
Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
Yay for rivka!
Yay for ketchupqueen and KPC!
Yay for katharina, Becky, Ken, and Narnia!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Tentative has become definite. My former landlady was tracked down (she was out of town until today, apparently) and gave me a glowing recommendation.
Now I just have to pack . . . >_<
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
quote: <Brings bread, so you will never be hungry, salt, so your live will always have flavor and ketchup, because you abstain from wine.>
Well wine is for prosperity,so maybe gold dusted chocolates would work.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
It has been a very long week. But I have the cashier's check for oodles of money, and the apartment will be mine as of the 15th. (And in the end she wanted it to include a full months' rent (plus the deposit) on the check and will prorate September, which is know is not uncommon, but is also not what we had discussed. Whatever.)
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We need to have a place by August, becuase Ems and I are flying out on the 26th, staying with my mom for a week, and Jeff will be driving out with all the stuff on the 30th, to arrive around the 3rd.![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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We have a deposit on this place, but we're going to lose it, between the cats chewing up the blinds and the baby dumping juice on the new carpet. We have accepted that; there's no way we'll get it back. Besides, the deposit here was less than 1 month's rent, and we're only paying $695 a month here.![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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