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Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
 
Would anybody recommend to me a good, free email that works every time?

Thanks.

~ or better yet, explain to me why it could happen that I send an email from yahoo.com account and it never reaches its destination. Everything is spelled perfectly.
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
Um... gmail?

Are there "emails" that aren't free?
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Gmail rocks.

FG

(send me your Yahoo address, Phanto, and I send you a Gmail invite)
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
I have both gmail and yahoo, and I still prefer yahoo.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
gmail rules all!
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
I have both gmail and yahoo, and I still prefer gmail. [Razz]
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
I should mention some of the reasons why I prefer Yahoo. I use some of the features that Yahoo offers that gmail still doesn't have. These include MyYahoo, where I keep many of my bookmarks, MyPhoto, and MyBriefcase. If you are just looking for email and nothing else, this stuff probably doesn't matter to you. I also like having a customized MyYahoo homepage.

I also like that Yahoo has a virus scan option for downloads, which gmail still doesn't have. This isn't important to me, personally, cause I have a Mac, but it is important to my husband when I download something and then transfer it to one of the PC's we still have.

As far as I can tell, the main thing gmail has going for it is a humongous amount of storage space for old emails, and I don't really need that much storage.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
quote:
~ or better yet, explain to me why it could happen that I send an email from yahoo.com account and it never reaches its destination. Everything is spelled perfectly.
To try to answer your second question..

...is there any chance it is being blocked on the receiving end by a spam filter?

FG
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
I have gmail and yahoo, and I use both equally. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
With my Verizon DSL account came a Verizon email account. If I didn't hear about it in the news and from friends, I wouldn't even know what spam is. The only hitch I've ever come up against, is that for some reason, Hatrack couldn't send me emails to that account. Even when I dropped the spam filter. It took me the longest time to join up with Hatrack, because I couldn't receive my password. I finally had to have it sent to my email account at work.

Other than that one glitch, it has been lovely, just lovely.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Except that it also dropped the email from Publisher's Clearinghouse, and you missed your chance at Ten Million Dollars!
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Whom can I sue?
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
Verizon, of course.
 
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
 
Yahoo!
 
Posted by Speed (Member # 5162) on :
 
Alternately, you could open a Hotmail account. Then you'll get about 100 free emails every day. [Razz]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Free the emails! Free the emails!

<marches in a circle with a placard>
 
Posted by TheDisgruntledPostman (Member # 7200) on :
 
Hotmail works pretty well for me, but im not big when it comest to E-mail
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I also have a ton of gmail invites, if anybody wants on gmail.

--Enigmatic
 
Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
 
I have a bunch of gmail invites as well if anyone wants one. I really like gmail. Their spam filter is pretty good so far. I have quite a few things slip through on yahoo and all I ever get at hotmail is spam...
 
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
 
I use AOL as my email address. I don't have any problems with it right now, except it's annoying to log onto now since I don't have AOL anymore and have to go to AOL.com to read it. What's the difference between Gmail and AOL? I don't get any spam...
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
GMail doesn't cost money and doesn't suck.
 
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
 
I don't have AOL anymore so I don't pay for it, I just log on to AOL.com if I want to check my email. What is better about Gmail? I don't get spam, so in what ways is Gmail better?
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
the way gmail puts your messages into threads like this (sort of) is very nice.
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
You mean other than elitest geek cred?

1 gig of storage space. I email myself funny movies that I want to be able to show friends or coworkers.
Good built-in search engine. You can archive old messages without truly deleting them, and the archive is still searchable.
Simple, uncluttered interface. I've never used AOL, but I recall Hotmail and Yahoo mail being cluttered with banner ads and other unneccessary graphics. Gmail only has google ads, like the ones at the bottom of the page here.

I don't find it OMG!AMAZING-levels of better than other mail systems, but I do really like it.

Edit: yeah, the thread thing is cool too. I've gotten so used to that I forgot to mention it.

--Enigmatic
 
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
 
And you need an invite to get a Gmail address? Does anyone have any extras?
 
Posted by Vid (Member # 7172) on :
 
Everyone has extras... they used to give you like 5, now everyone has 50, or maybe even more by now. I stopped looking at the number.
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I sent you an invite Jaime. Like vid said, got 50 or so.

--Enigmatic
 
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
 
Thanks.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I could use one as well. although I already have 3 emails... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Yeah, I got extras, too, if anyone wants one.
 
Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 
quote:
You mean other than elitest geek cred?

1 gig of storage space. I email myself funny movies that I want to be able to show friends or coworkers.
Good built-in search engine. You can archive old messages without truly deleting them, and the archive is still searchable.
Simple, uncluttered interface. I've never used AOL, but I recall Hotmail and Yahoo mail being cluttered with banner ads and other unneccessary graphics. Gmail only has google ads, like the ones at the bottom of the page here.

I don't find it OMG!AMAZING-levels of better than other mail systems, but I do really like it.

Edit: yeah, the thread thing is cool too. I've gotten so used to that I forgot to mention it.

--Enigmatic

Um, gmail has WAY more than 1 gig of storage space. It's about 2.4 or 2.5 right now... and counting! Woohoo!
 
Posted by Beren One Hand (Member # 3403) on :
 
I've used Gmail and Yahoo.

I've experienced some down time with Gmail's server but have never experienced any down time with Yahoo.

[ August 10, 2005, 05:22 AM: Message edited by: Beren One Hand ]
 
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
Gmail's thread system has made play-by-email D&D much, much easier.

You probably don't need the storage space. But I've used hotmail and yahoo, and I think gmail's interface is far better. All hail gmail!
 
Posted by Peter Howell (Member # 8072) on :
 
agreed, gmail's interface is now the one against which all others are to be judged. I don't get a whole lot of email, and most of what I do get is just quick notes and reminders, but it's so convenient to have all the messages in a given conversation grouped together the way they are... like so: http://www.cs.mun.ca/~peterh/gmail_example.png
Each of those messages can be clicked on to expand them without refreshing the page... AJAX just rules like that. (AJAX is the technology behind gmail).
Oh, and as you can see from the screenshot, I also have 50 invites for anybody who wants one.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
Anyone know of one that is not detected as a web based email service by work firewalls?
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Anything obscure enough.

Work firewalls don't detect them by any sort of heuristic, they use a list of the things.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Is there a limit on attachement size with gmail?

And does it work with email clients, or is it web only?
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
I know they rolled out POP to at least some gmail accounts, and I think its on all accounts now (and with the size, you just set it to not delete on server).

I'm not sure what the limit (there is one) on gmail attachments is, but its huge.
 
Posted by Chris Kidd (Member # 2646) on :
 
I have 50 Invites also if anyone wants one or more.

also can't you use your Gmail account as an extrea hard drive.
 
Posted by VĂ¡na (Member # 6593) on :
 
I can't believe none of you have mentioned my very favorite feature of Gmail - the labels. I lovelovelove that I can attach multiple labels to any given e-mail instead of having to pick just one folder to drop it into!
 
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
Vana:

That's what I was about to say. By far my favorite feature.
 
Posted by ChaosTheory (Member # 7069) on :
 
OOH OOH! Someone please invite me! GMail sounds awesome!
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
I'm not sure what the limit (there is one) on gmail attachments is, but its huge.
So cron jobs backing up my web server's db would be feasible. [Smile]

I'd like an invite if anyone happens to have one. [Smile]
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
I think the attachment limit is 10 megs. I use it a lot to email music to my friends. It normally takes about 4 emails to send an entire CD.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
I can't believe none of you have mentioned my very favorite feature of Gmail - the labels. I lovelovelove that I can attach multiple labels to any given e-mail instead of having to pick just one folder to drop it into!
If something is stored in a database, there's no need to use a "folder" metaphor unless you're trying to mimic something in the real world. Even then, it's not a storage metaphor but a categorization metaphor. And if the program is dealing with something without a real-world referent, then there's no need to drag storage location into it at all.

This used to annoy me when I'd revise other people's software - the whole mixing of the storage location metaphor with the categorization metaphor. I pretty much banned data designs that limited categorization to only one category.

</end rant from previous career>
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Dagonee -- actually, there's a gmail FS that handles all of it for you.

edit: link to linux version: http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html

and to windows version: http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Alas, that looks like it far exceeds the permissions I have from my host - it's a shared server at a hosting company.

But when I set up my own server, I'm there. [Smile]

The backup component for my CMS can email backups, so I'll look into that. But they're running anout 30 mb now, so I'll have to break it into parts.
 
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
 
Those of you that need gmail invites, send me an email (to the address in my profile) and I'll send you one this afternoon. [Smile]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
And if ludosti runs out, email me and I'll send one out. [Smile]
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
POP access is a huge deal, and is one of the reasons gmail is so much better than most free webmail (e.g. Hotmail), despite the fact that they're all starting to offer the same gratuitous amount of online storage space.

Windows users also get a taskbar notifier for new e-mails, although anyone using Thunderbird gets the same thing with all their POP e-mail.
 
Posted by Boon (Member # 4646) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by quidscribis:
And if ludosti runs out, email me and I'll send one out. [Smile]

And if they run out, I have a hundred of them.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Me too! I want to give away some invites! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by accio (Member # 3040) on :
 
[Wave] Here! I could use one. Please?
 
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
 
Will someone send me a gmail invite? It sounds really great! I have to get my own! [Smile]

annekateard AT bham DOT rr DOT com

Thanks!
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
accio and AK, invites sent. Yelp if there's a problem! [Smile]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Foiled again! [Grumble]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
By the way, when gmail offers a service where people can:

1.) host email for other domains using the gmail service, and
2.) allow wrapped versions of their interface on the web sites for those domains.

They're going to make a TON more money.

Even if they only allowed #1 I might pay for it.

Edit: Also, someone sent me an invite but I didn't recognize the name. Thanks!
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Dag: interesting idea, though there are some significant technosocial issues involved before it could happen.

Given things like their Maps API (which includes a number of just plain utility objects), though, its a future possibility.
 
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
 
I got a gmail invitation once. I never could get it to let me sign up. I'd fill in all the blanks, hit the button to make it submit, and nothing would happen.

I guess it just hated me.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Wanna try again?
 
Posted by SpiffWilkie (Member # 8464) on :
 
Here's a link for an invite...first one to click gets it http://mail.google.com/mail/a-25ab6c7ad0-d1131e82e5-192db22fdb?invt=g
 
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
It used to be that gmail invites were worth something. People were trading favors for them, and buying them on e-bay. Now the market's glutted, and people are falling over themselves to give them away.

In the highly unlikely event that Rivka and Quidscribis run out, I have 50 invites as well.
 
Posted by Peter Howell (Member # 8072) on :
 
the only reason they don't jsut completely remove the invitation system and let everybody in as normal is that they would probably have to take it out of beta to do so... and until they're really confident about everything and have stopped testing, they can just say to anybody who loses data or complains about some other malfunction: "Hey, sorry, it's beta, things like this happen in beta". Not that that will ever actually happen of course. With the amount of hardware redundancy that google uses, it would take nothing short of a natural desaster (or the programming equivalent) to cause any noticable damage.
 
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
 
Sure, Rivka. Wanna email me one? [Smile] It's katarain AT yahoo DOT com.

Thanks:D
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Sent!
 
Posted by Chris Kidd (Member # 2646) on :
 
If everyone else runs Out of Gmail Invites I still have 50.

Just email me at

mandrolin AT Gmail DOT COM

[Blushing] [Wave]
 
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
That was me, Dag.

And I'm hurt. You mean you never clicked through to any of the links of my bylined work that I have posted over the years? [Razz]

EDIT: And sorry I didn't make the connection clear. I usually mention the Zal-name when I e-mail Jatraqueros, but forgot to this time.
 
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
 
I think I still have something like 90 invites left (between my two accounts) if people are still lacking.... [Smile]
 
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
 
Thanks rivka:) I now have a gmail account! [Smile] I have joined the ranks!

I'm still unique, though. [Smile]

My new email addy is katarain at gmail. I am not sure I'll use it a lot. I already have several emails. Yahoo is for online use (so it gets a lot of spam), and I have one through our internet.. it's like the "official" one. And I have others..

I'm not sure what to use gmail for...
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Storage? One thing I use my gmail for is storing files I want to be able to access anywhere.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dagonee:
By the way, when gmail offers a service where people can:

1.) host email for other domains using the gmail service, and
2.) allow wrapped versions of their interface on the web sites for those domains.

They're going to make a TON more money.

Even if they only allowed #1 I might pay for it.

Edit: Also, someone sent me an invite but I didn't recognize the name. Thanks!

Bragging bump.

Google is now running a beta of their new service to host email for other domains using the gmail service. I hope they implement number two soon.
 
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
 
And I'd like to thank Enigmatic for sending me a Gmail invite. Gmail is awesome and I've been liking it alot ever since you sent it to me.
 
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
 
If anyone else out there doesn't have a gmail invite and wants one, let me know and I'll send you one.... [Wink]
 
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
 
Has GMail started using some program that tells you when you have mail yet? The primary reason why I'm sticking with Yahoo -- followed closely by a) my history with my e-mail and b) Yahoo's clean interface -- is that Yahoo Messenger tells me I have e-mail the moment I get it. Does, what, Google Talk (or whatever it is) do the same?
 
Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
There's the Gmail notifier. I haven't downloaded it, partly because I'm as likely to check my Gmail at work as at home, and partly because I don't like the Yahoo notifier. [Dont Know] I'm just weird, I guess.

Anyway, here's the Gmail help center, with answers to many questions you might have.

And, I have 99 invites ...
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Heeyy ... Can I have an invite? [Wave]

My address should be in my profile, but if not, it's the_third_wiseman AT hotmail DOT com. Yes, I'm still using hotmail [Frown] . I'm ready for a change.
 
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
 
I can also send people invites if they'd like, but I'm lazy and probably won't check this thread again. If you send me an email to the address in my profile asking for an invite, I'll send one immediately.
 
Posted by aiua (Member # 7825) on :
 
I've got you all beat. 583 invites left.. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Altáriël of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
 
I have both gmail and yahoo, and I still prefer gmail. [Razz]
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Thanks Gaal!
 


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