Is anyone following that alleged murder/kidnap deal with the teens in Pennsylvania?
Here's the MSN story. And here's a two sentence summary from the article:
quote:Katelyn said she saw Ludwig shoot her father, and then ran into the bathroom, where she heard a second shot, presumably the one that killed her mother, court papers said. Ludwig then ran through the house calling for Kara, she told investigators.
For those that don't know, here's what they think happened: The guy (18 years old) and his 14 year old girlfriend went back to her house early Sunday morning and Ludwig (the guy) got into an argument with the girl's parents. The sister said they argued for about an hour then she saw the guy shoot her dad; she ran to the bathroom and heard a second shot (presumably when he shot the mom). The couple ran and everyone has been looking for them since then. They were captured today in Indiana.
This makes me sick. What would ever possess someone to do something like this?
I can't even imagine arguing with someone else's parents when I was that age. What's going on in your mind, in your life, that makes this acceptable behavior?
And what should the punishment be for this guy (if found guilty and convicted)?
Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
It should be life in prison, without the chance for parole. That should leave him plenty of time to think about what he did...
Posted by pfresh85 (Member # 8085) on :
Maybe it's juts the Texan in me, but I say he should get the death penalty. Killing one person in my mind justifies it (for the most part); killing more than that just solidifies it. I know some will say that the death penalty is just "revenge" against the murderer. I think it's proper punishment though. This guy ended two people's lives, and I think even life in prison is going light on him. There's just no reason for that kind of behavior.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Technically I'm opposed to the death penalty, but as long as we have it I think this is a perfect chance to use it.
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
Honestly, I'm not interested in this story at all. Does nobody else have an inner cynic raging at the introduction of yet another Missing/Murdered White Woman of the Month?
Posted by ricree101 (Member # 7749) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lalo: Honestly, I'm not interested in this story at all. Does nobody else have an inner cynic raging at the introduction of yet another Missing/Murdered White Woman of the Month?
While I hate to trivialize anyone's death, I have to agree with you here. A lot of people get murdered every year, and the media seems quite selective over which ones get any real reporting.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
JT, I am quite impressed by your priorities. The guy killed two people, and you complain that he would dare to argue with his girlfriend's parents? Do you see the problem here?
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:I can't even imagine arguing with someone else's parents when I was that age. What's going on in your mind, in your life, that makes this acceptable behavior?
You misinterpreted this sentence. What I meant was that it was unthinkable for me to argue with someone's parents, what mental state would you be in to think killing them is alright?
I wasn't complaining that he argued, that was just an example from my own life of how far gone this guy is.
And actually, Lalo, the girl is still alive in this one, which makes is different than the missing white girl a month (which I'm also sick of talking about). Read the article; this is horrific.
Posted by Theaca (Member # 8325) on :
I'd say that any story about a teen who shot two people and ran away in a car with a possible hostage would get a lot of publicity regardless of what race they are. I think people are always extra horrified when they hear about kids who killed their own parents. OH, plus there's the whole angle of whether the girl is a hostage or a willing participant.
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
We had one of those in Brazil, recently, Theaca...her family name was Ritchoffen. She was actually the Grand-grandaughter of the famous "Red Baron" of WWI. She and her boyfriend killed her parents and escaped. Suzade Ritchoffen (or Von Ritchoffen, I think).
Posted by camus (Member # 8052) on :
A somewhat similar case happened last month here in MN. A high schooler offered his friends part of the life insurance money to kill his parents. The first attempt didn't quite work so the kid went and killed his parents himself, at least I think that's how it went. And I agree that since it's a case of children killing parents, it seems a bit more horrific.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
(no, not ALL teenagers -- I'm not making a blanket statement -- but there sure seems to be a lot of shooting going on)
FG
Posted by smitty (Member # 8855) on :
It's all a matter of respect - if you dont' respect life, why not kill someone? Same point with Farmgirl's comments - people who respect firearms aren't going to use them. Of course, if my dad saw me using a firearm in a manner he didn't approve of (such as threatening to use it on a person - it scares me how often I've heard that attributed to young children) I'd not only not have access, but a fairly rosy colored backside and a lot of bunk time. If parents take the time to know their kids and teach them respect, I think this would happen less. Of course, this is coming from a non-parent, just someone who was "parented" well
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
How about the parents not reporting child molestation? Then the father threatening to report towards the end of the argument? When faced with becoming a playmate for Bubba, a bouncy ball for other inmates, and a permanent publicly accessible branding as a pedophile even after prison time...