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Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I get what a dobie is, now, but I'm still unclear on the whole mayfly thing. I'm guessing that it's neither an insect nor a book by Kevin O'Donnell. But beyond that, I'm lost.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
A thread that has a very short expected life, and will probabably be deleted as soon as it's purpose has been fulfilled.

For example, if you delete it now that you know the answer.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
Mayfly is posted in the thread title as a warning to all that it's either (a) something they need help with quickly, (b) looking for someone for a specific question, (c) may be deleted once whatever the threadstarter was looking for was found.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
When I asked the same question I was told the name comes from the insect of the same name that has an extremely short lifespan.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Go for it! Delete! Delete!
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
Troublemaker. [Razz]
 
Posted by peterh (Member # 5208) on :
 
Delete it. I double dog dare you. [Evil]
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
Another troublemaker. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I asked this same question awhile back.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
The reasoning is that over the years, several of us have been very annoyed when threads that we were participating in were deleted by the thread starter, and argued that deleting a thread, and thus, other people's thoughts, was bad form. (Particularly when you're deleting the thread specifically to get rid of some of the responses you received.)

So this is a caveat emptor type of thing. We're warned that the thread will likely go away, so we can't be annoyed later when it does. The practice was started by CT, and is usually used for posts that either are deemed, by their originator, of very temporary importance, or for those that are very personal and possibly revelatory.
 
Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
 
I get what a mayfly is, but what's a dobie? [Razz]

(I just keep thinking of Dobie Gillis...)
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
You know, it's better if you never know . . .

[Razz]
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
Its this thing you smoke...if you add another 'o' to the word, I mean.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
dobieo?
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
No, doobie. Haven't you ever heard of the Doobie Brothers? They didn't make that word up.
 
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
 
This is like the third time I've seen a thread with this title. I don't understand why Hatrack has adopted such a confusing, nonsensical bit of terminology.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
I heard that they weren't really brothers. But "Doobie Cousins" didn't test well with the focus groups.
 
Posted by Will B (Member # 7931) on :
 
I'm just embarrassed how long it took me to figure out "Jatraquero."
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I had to ask, so you have no need to feel bad.
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I think I got this terminology without having to ask, but I've seen actual mayflies so the metaphor worked for me.

--Enigmatic
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
Mayfly
Jatraquero
Dobie
Onanism thread
"I'm getting married and moving to..."
Wenches tavern
shinda
real
last post...


All things you must know to no longer be a n00b.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Destineer:
This is like the third time I've seen a thread with this title. I don't understand why Hatrack has adopted such a confusing, nonsensical bit of terminology.

Because shared history and quirkiness is what makes us a community.

Will we always be a community? Who knows. But Hatrack certainly has been a community to me over the years, and things like shared in-jokes are part of what make it feel like home to me. (And, when I was a newbie, being aware that such things existed did not put me off, but rather made the place more interesting.)

We still call it a mayfly because once somebody called it that, and we thought it was clever, and it caught on.

We call them dobies because someone named dobie used to do them--and, unlike most people, he often did them well--and so we named his clever invention after him.

We call(ed) ourselves Jatraqueros because somebody who immersed himself in latino culture thought it was clever, and we agreed.

These are the things that community is made of. When we no longer have shared stories and in-jokes we will no longer have a community.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
But, as long as their are smart alecks in this world, that shouldn't happen for at least three thousand years.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
breyerchic, I disagree with shinda. Shinda is a purely regional thing, and other areas have referred to them as picnics, or to themselves as clumps.
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
but shouldn't they know what a shinda is? Ok you add another one icky
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
So*
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
What about Landmark?
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Rita Spankmistress
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
oh yes Rita is important.


I guess Landmark is too, *So is very new and quite annoying.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
We need to come up with a nickname for the OSC-disillusionment phenomenon, wherein people who have loved his books for years are stunned to figure out that he's not a liberal, and start threads to tell him how very wrongheaded he is, in the hopes that he will finally see the light, thanks to their post, and possibly start up a correspondence friendship, and also get them published, all out of gratitude. [Smile]

Maybe "being flummOSCed"?
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by breyerchic04:

"I'm getting married and moving to..."

I started that one. [Big Grin]

Although, really, it was Dear Hatrack, I'm getting married and moving to..."


Edited cuz I just had to add the URL. [Big Grin]

[ January 06, 2006, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: quidscribis ]
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
Well, Fahim helped. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
True. *snort*
 
Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
 
So Dobie did them well, huh? Whatever they are?

(showing off my n00bishness)

Wait, are those the ones where you start a new thread with a title that looks similar to another thread?

And I don't EVEN want to know who or what Rita is. [Razz]
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
they must look similar to another thread, and have a link in them.

Rita is lots of people.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
[deleted]

Oh wait, I'm wrong aren't I--

I'm thinking of :Locke
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Say, what the heck ever happened to :Locke?
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
oh that's better
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
nope, not Hobbes. Sorry. My bad.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Tiger kisses indeed! [Evil Laugh]
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
good, I think I've seen a few posts by :Locke but never knew anything about him/her
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Him. He was fourteen or so when I started.

Think about that . . .
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
I just looked up, and yeah he had about 40 posts after I joined, said he was a high school freshman, this was when I was a senior, so he'd be a junior now. And Ick, he would have only been 12.


Tiger Kisses really are important.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
I like the quirky phrases on Hatrack. I don't know everything on breyerchic's list, and that's OK. But what I really like about Hatrack is that when I and others ask about these terms, the responses are polite and helpful.

(although I must say, starLisa's question thread about mayflies generated a lot more discussion than mine did!!)
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
We're in the mood?
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
All things you must know to no longer be a n00b.
Wow. Would somebody tell me what the wenche's tavern is? Apparently I'm a n00b.
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
Maybe you're just modest, and I almost didn't put that one, but I decided it helps explain wench con. It was on the front page for like my first six months though, so you must have seen it.
 
Posted by Chreese Sroup (Member # 8248) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by breyerchic04:
Mayfly
Jatraquero
Dobie
Onanism thread
"I'm getting married and moving to..."
Wenches tavern
shinda
real
last post...


All things you must know to no longer be a n00b.

You can't forget the panty raids!
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
But there are panty raids elsewhere (orchestra trips for one [Wink] )
 
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Destineer:
This is like the third time I've seen a thread with this title. I don't understand why Hatrack has adopted such a confusing, nonsensical bit of terminology.

Of all the potentially confusing and/or nonsensical bits of Hatrack adopted terminology, "Mayfly" isn't one of them. The first time I saw it I instantly understood it (though perhaps for a different reason that the stated "short lifespan of the insect")

When I first saw something like "Hey so-and-so, did you check your email? (Mayfly)" I instantly took it to mean the thread "may fly" as in "fly away" or "disappear". How is that confusing or nonsensical?
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
I got the insect connection right away, first time I saw it. I didn't even realize that it was specific to Hatrack, it was just so intuitive.

But then again, I'm special.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
quote:
We need to come up with a nickname for the OSC-disillusionment phenomenon, wherein people who have loved his books for years are stunned to figure out that he's not a liberal, and start threads to tell him how very wrongheaded he is, in the hopes that he will finally see the light, thanks to their post, and possibly start up a correspondence friendship, and also get them published, all out of gratitude.
And he'll buy them a pony.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
The thing about coming up with new terms is that it has to be almost unconscious both in the invention of the term and its acceptance.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
You mean you haven't gotten your pony yet?
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
It doesn't DO anything. That's the beauty of it.
 


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