Are there any other Idol fans out there? Recall I'm still new here and I've seen a few media threads, but not an Idol one...well, at any rate I'm part of the 40 million viewers who neglected the Olympics for it. I'm cheesy like that.
Who are you rooting for? Who annoys you? How is fifth season better or worse?
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I really think these folks don't have good hearing or something, because some of these women to me just... they do these weird vocal out of key things. Like this woman that sang Celine Dion (Don't get me started on Celine Dion, but I do like 2 songs by her) She really, wasn't that good in my eyes.
But I do like Mandika, and that small young 16 year old girl and the cool white haired dude because he's just got STYLE. HE rocks!
Posted by johnsonweed (Member # 8114) on :
Big fan, I am embarrased to admit. The girls were a bit spotty tonight.
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
Personally, I'm in love with Ace. And David. And Will. My roommate watches it, so at least I have eye candy. That's always a good thing. Posted by sarcare (Member # 8736) on :
I agree that the girls were off tonight--though I liked Paris' rendition of Wind beneath my Wings, she has an amazing voice and put a lot of emotion into that song!
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I definitely agree with Randy that a guy is going to win it this year (see Johnsonweed, you don't have to feel embarrassed about American Idol when there are dorks like me who can actually remember quotes). They seem to have more interesting individuals and I like their voices/showmanship better.
I'm such a Taylor (grey hair) fan. Anyone who plays a blues harmonica rendition at his audition is cool by me.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Yeah1 Taylor rools! Dmitri Hvorostovsky has grey hair too and he's not that old at all. So that makes him COOL.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
I usually like the girls much more than the guys but I totally loved Taylor last week. The only girl that I have found exciting at all this year is Paris but I thought she was kinda boring tonight. It will be interesting to see if Taylor will be as good tomorrow as last week. If so, I think I have the person I am going to root for in the long haul.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Dude This bald guy BROUGHT DOWN THE HOUSE! He ROCKED!
Who does the song he sang?
Posted by seven (Member # 5367) on :
My favorite girl so far is Lisa, and my favorite guy is Taylor. Honestly though I like most of them.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Alas, I only caught the tail end, but yeah Chris (bald) was amazing!
I think the song was called Fuel, or it was by Fuel?
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
Why is no one talking about Elliot? Seriously, he blows me away.
Taylor . . . cool, but ultimately meh. The bald guy did put in a stunning performance tonight, though.
Syn, I believe the song he did was by a band called Fuel. (I personally liked his version as well as or better than the original.)
Posted by Little_Doctor (Member # 6635) on :
The name of the song is Hemorrhage by Fuel. Chris has been my favorite sine the first round. I always root for the rockers.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Shall we make our top 12 predictions? I wrote mine down last week.
Guys: Ace, Chris, Elliot, Taylor, Will, and Kevin
Ladies: Katherine, Kellie, Lisa, Mandisa, and Paris (yes, that's only 5...I am on the fence about the 6th. Last week I thought it would be Brenna, but I think she's going to be gone tonight.)
And yeah, I think it'll be a guy that wins this year. Elliot is amazing. They have to do something with his look though. Good as he is, he isn't going to beat Chris if he doesn't do something with his look. But truth is, I love Taylor. He's just so different. He could stop the war whoops though. Once or twice is enough.
Predictions for the ones going tonight: Heather and Brenna, David and Sway.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Taylor is not cut out for this. He's from Birmingham (Hoover actually) so he's been getting a lot of press and my brother knows him from church, or something like that. He's incredibly uncomfortable with all the attention he's getting.
He does love to sing, though and that comes across. I don't see him making it to the finals, though.
I wasn't crazy about ANY of the guys last night. The girls didn't do as well as they did last week either. Second week jitters,maybe? Paris' performance of "Midnight Train to Georgia" is so far my favorite performance.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I haven't been following this season yet, and probably won't much until it gets to final 12.
But the guys here at work were sure talking about that Chris guy, who they think blows all others out of the water.
So I might have to tune in next week to see.
FG
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
A.I. is my guilty pleasure. I try not to admit to watching it to often.
Chris last night was hands down the best Rock performance the show has ever had. But of course until last year there haven't been many Rock people on the show.
Taylor is cool. He just seems to be having fun. Like he is laughing to himself: Man I can't believe I'm on this show.
It might just be me, but if Kevin had dark hair he should be playing Harry Potter.
The 16 year old girls are pretty good, especially for their age. Mandisa is my favorite, but none have consistently been great.
Posted by Celaeno (Member # 8562) on :
Speaking of American Idol...my mom thinks erosomniac should audition for it. I think this would be hilarious. We should all pressure him to do it.
But we might have to wait while he gives up Hatrack for Lent.
Posted by Soara (Member # 6729) on :
Prediction: finals are going to be Mandisa and Chris. I don't know which of them, but one of them. Mandisa is amazing and Paula was definately drunk tonight (thursday). Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
You know, Soara, I definitely agree with you about Paula!
I can't say any of the people who went home tonight surprised me. *shrug* This thread will get interesting when its between just the REALLY good people (Mandiza, Chris, Taylor, Paris etc). Now it's more or less predictable.
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
Who was sent home? I only saw them announce Brenna.
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
Just to let you know, there are 12 other threads about American Idol. I'm sure more fans will be posting here soon.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Brinestone, I win. I had 100% accurate prediction rate for who was leaving last night. THe only real surprise was seeing Kevin in the bottom three of the guys. I figured the 13 year old girl demographic would have kept him bouncing somewhere in the middle.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Not totally on topic...actually, not much on topic, but was anyone else annoyed at Paula for her comments to Mandisa? I know she meant it as a compliment, but... Anyway, her comment was "You have such a beautiful face."
Now, I know some people would go "How can that NOT be a compliment?!", but I have a friend who is absolutely gorgeous. She could be a model. A plus sized model. She struggles with her weight. She hears this compliment all the time. "You have such a beautiful face." Like that's all there is to her and that the rest of her is hideous.
I had never really thought about it, but I could see her point. People think they're being kind when they say this, but really, they're pointing out, "You know, if you lost XX lbs, you'd be gorgeous. As it is, you just have a pretty face. What a shame you let all that beauty go to waste for a few extra donuts." And maybe it's just me, but I don't hold to that. Not everyone is built like a stick. And even very heavy bodies can be attractive. The question is: are you healthy? are you happy? are you good?
I realize that a lot of this show is about image, not jsut vocals. I commented about that with re: to Elliot. But only a few of the girls are really truly thin. Most of them could stand to lose a few pounds (and it looks to me like Carrie Underwood has.) They're all gorgeous. Including Mandisa, and not just her face. She's a lovely woman with a gorgeous voice. Period. No need to qualify it.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Yes, I noticed, and was annoyed.
Paula also told another singer that she wished she could cut off her legs-from the knees down-and attach them to hers, because then she(Paula) would be perfect.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I totally caught the "face" comment also. I thought it was pretty close to rude. At least Simon said what he was thinking even if it was behind her back. What makes me like Mandisa even more than her singing is the way she told Simon how he hurt her, but she forgave him. It didn't seem like an act to me. To me that makes her extremely beautiful. What Paula should have said was she is a beautiful person period.
I've always suspected Paula had a few drinks or tokes, lines or pills of something before she went on the show. Last night totally confirmed it. So the question now is what is she on?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
My mom watches it.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I appreciated that Mandisa took it as a face-value compliment. She's a very graceful lady.
The whole thing about Ayla's legs was more than a little creepy too when it was all out of Paula's mouth. I got the impression that what she'd really meant to say was something like "...and I would kill to have legs like yours." not "I would like to kill you so I can have your legs." And the getup Paula was wearing! I kept thinking, well, nothing left to the imagination THERE.
I'd also wish she'd stop hitting Simon. I hate when petite women think it's okay to hit men. Even if they're being unbearably annoying.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
She could always just hit him harder... He's a bit rude at times.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
And what if Simon whacked Paula back, Syn?
I agree that the hitting is inappropriate.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Any thoughts about last night's performances?
My only real issue was Simon's coaching of the audience on who not to vote for. I felt sorry for Melissa, in that I think the producers of the show have made a concerted effort not to feature her. She wasn't featured on any of the pre-top24 episodes, so she didn't have any early momentum to help her out with the voters. Her performance last night wasn't that bad...I liked it up to the last riff that was just a mess. And then Kinnik, I felt sorry for in that all the other girls got a pre-performance interview with Ryan, but instead, right before her performance, he interviewed Katherine, who performed later. That was not only weird, but I think an unsubtle sabotage.
*shrug*
I can't imagine how those two won't be gone on Thursday. Which is okay because I don't think they're all that great. But let them fail on their own merits...no need to sandbag them.
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
In 4 years, look out for an Anne. I'm going on, Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Jeniwren:
I really felt the same about Simon's comments on Melissa. I can't say she's my favorite, but it's almost as if they want to get rid of her (and a few others) as quickly as possible.
Then why later all the extoling of Kelly? She's definitely good, and I'm not going to deny that, but Mandisa was phenomenal and he didn't tell her that she was better than last year's winner or Fantasia (And my conscience can't support a girl who pretends to not know what "sal-mon" is.)
I'm definitely going to pay attention to see if there is any 'intent' behind the comments tonight.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
You know, there has been an absolute dirth of Annes. The time'll be plenty ripe by the time you're old enough. And I'll vote for you. Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Well, if I try out, look for a Kristen:
My out-takes will be featured right next to William Hung Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
I was a little disapointed that no one threw something at Simon this year Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Kristen, I took some umbrance with Simon's effusion over Kellie, but thinking about it some more I recall he never said that he thought she was better than Carrie, just that he preferred her to Carrie. Which I think was totally honest. Last season he was pretty clear that he thought Carrie was bankable and would have a great recording career, but was a bit bored with her personally. Kellie does not have a Carrie quality voice, but she IS interesting in a more innocent Jessica Simpson sort of way. I admit that the whole minx/mink thing cracked me up.
That said, I don't see Kellie winning. I wonder if she'll be an upset early goner, ala Constantine.
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kristen: Well, if I try out, look for a Kristen:
My out-takes will be featured right next to William Hung
I got my friend to record herself dancing to "She Bangs" It was funny.
My math teacher was playing that song while I was walking in the hall, I peeked in and she was dancing. I laughed. She's about 31 (We think ) so she's really cool.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I want Chris and Mandisa to win. Chris is awesome and I think he's po... I love it when po folks get rich and famous.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I love Mandisa, she of "the pretty face."
The guys are much stronger this year, though. Thee are very few I don't like.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I wasn't as impressed with Chris tonight. I thought Gedeon, Kevin, and Bucky were awesome. I didn't get to hear Taylor sing, although I heard the judges after and apparently he did really well.
I also think the guys are much stronger than the girls this year.
Posted by sarcare (Member # 8736) on :
I though Elliot did really well, he has an amazing voice! Bucky was also awesome, though my room mate kept saying "Bucky, you're goin' home" during his song.
I didn't really like Kevin or Taylor last night, but my roommate voted for Taylor dozens of times. I like him, but not to win.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I loved Kevin's Starry, Starry Night. I thought it was just wonderful. It was, however, more of a Broadway performance, I think, than pop. If he's gone tonight, I really hope he pursues the stage more and pop less. And I hope he can act.
Last night was so HARD, because I really didn't think any of them truly tanked their performances. They were all good.
Who I wish was going to be in the bottom three tonight: Bucky, Gedeon and Kevin.
Who I think will be in the bottom three: Kevin, Will and Gedeon.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
I think it is going to be Kevin and Will going home. I just haven't seen any perfomances from them that made me find them memorable. I think Gedeon stands out much more and has done a better job with song choices. Bucky isn't for me but I can imagine that lots of people like him.
This week did very little to change my mind about who I liked. I thought the girls were a little flat but I still like Paris and Mandisa. The guys I thought were better. I really love Taylor and Chris.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I really love the type of music Kevin sings. It appeals to me so much more than most of the music the other guys sing. I was so bored during Elliot's song, for example, but apparently a lot of people love him.
I can't stand Will. He doesn't have a particularly good voice, he doesn't have good stage presence. He doesn't have anything really, except for a pretty face. I can't believe he's made it this far, and I really hope he goes home this week.
Posted by Roseauthor (Member # 148) on :
I admit it.. I watch AI. Although when Carrie underwood won, I was ready to scream and swear off AI for life! I didn't like her from start to finish she's much better when they can digitalize and fix her voice but she is terribly boring to watch.
This year I'm for Chris. Stage presence, sexy, and sings with passion. However, I love Taylor also because he's never boring, fun, and again, he can wail out a tune with such charismatic vigor.
Mandisa is the woman of the year! Stage presence is commanding attention-much like Fantasia did.
Simon is usually right on the money with his critiques so I don't know why people get so upset with him.
I can't stand Ryan or Paula. Paula does appear to be drugged or drunk more and more this year. (then again, I just don't really care for really NICE people.. they scare me into distrust)
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Ryan Seacrest is obnoxious.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
Did you see the rich girl get kicked off? That chick is not used to losing. I can see her point, though. I thought she'd have enough college dudes voting for her to keep her in until around May.
One thing I think Simon got wrong, though. He blamed her choice of song. I don't think that was nearly as bad as her choice of pants.
Just my opinion.
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
I missed that show, I was watching Fever Pitch. How'd Kevin and Will do?
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
It was the right thing to do to vote Ayla off tonight. She's been trying to decide between the finals in AI and basketball practice back at college where she has a scholarship. She would never have actually won, so I think it was merciful of people to vote her off now so she can devote all her time to basketball.
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
quote: Did you see the rich girl get kicked off?
Boy was that great! Stupid rich people, thinking they should get something for just being rich...and then being disappointed because the poor masses didn't vote you through! Boy did we show them...we sure did...Who cares if she has a good voice, or if she tried her best. Her dad is a politician, we shouldn't even have to feel bad for her, in fact, we have a moral obligation to mock her sadness and disappointment... Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
You know, the only reason Ayla got so emotional was that Ryan is no idiot. Most women will cry in the face of disappointment if you're sympathetic and caring when the news breaks. He did it on purpose, IMO to throw some emotion that none of the other ousted contestants had shown.
Overall, though, I'm really happy with how it turned out. Ayla would have been an early goner anyway. I feel like Melissa was really vindicated.
And I'm very happy Kevin is still in. I put him no higher than 8th, but I'm glad he's in the finals.
I'm hoping that Gedeon will go on to do gospel music. I'm betting he'll be phenomenal at it.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
See, that's why I can't watch the elimination episode. A. Everybody Hates Chris is on. B. I hate seeing them have to leave. It just breaks my heart.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Is it just me or was Bo Bice's performance totally lackluster?
If any of you watched last season, his acapella (sp?) gave me chills he was so good and tonight? I could hardly tell it was the same person.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
It was okay. I thought that his notes toward the last were a little sharp, but my ear isn't that good and I have only heard the song once or twice so I could be wrong. Not much is going to match his acapella performance last season. (I used to have that performance on MP3 and .MOV, but didn't have it on backup, so when my harddrive toasted two weeks ago it went bye bye. )
It was nice to see him, anyway, and I liked that Ryan actually talked with him. I liked Carrie's performance last week, but was disappointed that we didn't really hear anything from her, how her life has changed since winning, etc.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
"Is it just me or was Bo Bice's performance totally lackluster?"
I thought it was lackluster as well, but I love the Boster.
He has been very ill. I wonder if that might have been why.
As for Ayla, I couldn't stand her, and it had nothing to do with her wealth.
However, I would LOVE to watch her play basketball. She has a killer instinct which feels much more comfortable to watch when it is in a competitive, cutthroat game like basketball.
I just don't like people like Ayla, but I have a whole boatload of respect for them.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
quote:Originally posted by TheHumanTarget: Boy was that great! Stupid rich people, thinking they should get something for just being rich...and then being disappointed because the poor masses didn't vote you through! Boy did we show them...we sure did...Who cares if she has a good voice, or if she tried her best. Her dad is a politician, we shouldn't even have to feel bad for her, in fact, we have a moral obligation to mock her sadness and disappointment...
Wow, touchy much? I forgot I lived in an era where you can't describe people. Whether someone is tall or short, fat or thin, black or white, male or female, nice or mean, rich or poor, you'd better not use any of those adjectives to make clear who you're referring to, or it'll be automatically assumed that you hate them for being different.
So let me re-phrase my post:
Did you see that sentient entity get kicked off?
THT: What's wrong with being sentient? She should maybe be an inanimate object like his friends the rocks and dirt? Bleedin' anti-sentientite.
I guess I just can't win. right back atcha.
Posted by Little_Doctor (Member # 6635) on :
quote:Originally posted by Baron Samedi:
quote:Originally posted by TheHumanTarget: Boy was that great! Stupid rich people, thinking they should get something for just being rich...and then being disappointed because the poor masses didn't vote you through! Boy did we show them...we sure did...Who cares if she has a good voice, or if she tried her best. Her dad is a politician, we shouldn't even have to feel bad for her, in fact, we have a moral obligation to mock her sadness and disappointment...
Wow, touchy much? I forgot I lived in an era where you can't describe people. Whether someone is tall or short, fat or thin, black or white, male or female, nice or mean, rich or poor, you'd better not use any of those adjectives to make clear who you're referring to, or it'll be automatically assumed that you hate them for being different.
So let me re-phrase my post:
Did you see that sentient entity get kicked off?
THT: What's wrong with being sentient? She should maybe be an inanimate object like his friends the rocks and dirt? Bleedin' anti-sentientite.
I guess I just can't win. right back atcha.
Um...Baron...I think THT was being sarcastic. The " " usually implies that.
Posted by seven (Member # 5367) on :
quote:Originally posted by Little_Doctor:
quote:Originally posted by Baron Samedi:
quote:Originally posted by TheHumanTarget: Boy was that great! Stupid rich people, thinking they should get something for just being rich...and then being disappointed because the poor masses didn't vote you through! Boy did we show them...we sure did...Who cares if she has a good voice, or if she tried her best. Her dad is a politician, we shouldn't even have to feel bad for her, in fact, we have a moral obligation to mock her sadness and disappointment...
Wow, touchy much? I forgot I lived in an era where you can't describe people. Whether someone is tall or short, fat or thin, black or white, male or female, nice or mean, rich or poor, you'd better not use any of those adjectives to make clear who you're referring to, or it'll be automatically assumed that you hate them for being different.
So let me re-phrase my post:
Did you see that sentient entity get kicked off?
THT: What's wrong with being sentient? She should maybe be an inanimate object like his friends the rocks and dirt? Bleedin' anti-sentientite.
I guess I just can't win. right back atcha.
Um...Baron...I think THT was being sarcastic. The " " usually implies that.
Obviously. Baron caught the sarcasm and thats what made him think that THT was being touchy.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
Does anyone hate Kevin as much as I do? I HATE it when the show makes a big deal about how CUTE someone is, and how they look just like chicken little, and when paula makes some stupid remark about how he is the next sex symbol! They always do that to the dorky underdogs of the show, and because they did that to Kevin, (the worst guy on the show) he is going to hang in there way too long while GOOD singers are being voted off.
American Idol is turning into a popularity contest and its driving me crazy.
Posted by seven (Member # 5367) on :
I honestly Kevin has a decent voice, but his lisp and his cockiness drive me crazy. I wish it had been him rather than Will last week.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Julia,
I have noticed a definite pattern in choices, and "The Kevin" fits into the "dorky guy who should not make it as far as he does" slot. There was the -ithchy girl. There was one last year, anf the year before(I have happily forgotten their names) Now, we have girly-looking-yet manly rock star with long hair(Constantine, Ace), and tough rock star guy with long or no hair(Bo, and the guy this year)
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
I hadn't noticed that Ace is particularly "girly-looking". Huh. Although I think he needs to lose the beanies.
But, yes, Kevin needs to go. As soon as possible.
And lets just say I was a little distressed when it looked there for a minute like Bucky might be going Thursday night. So he doesn't have the world's smoothest, most trained voice. I still like him.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
You like bucky? why? He's a Bo Bice wanna-be, only uglier, stupider, with a worse voice. Over all he's just crusty. I think he needs to go take a shower for once.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Kevin's not so bad... he's a nice little cub.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
quote:Kevin's not so bad... he's a nice little cub.
you see, synesthesia, thats what im trying to say. American Idol is just a popularity contest. It doesn't matter how good your voice is, as long as you're cute.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
He's got a pretty good voice though. Not as good as some of these other folks though. He needs to grow up a bit more first I think.
But some of these women >.<
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
quote:Originally posted by Julia: American Idol is just a popularity contest.
Um, yes, that would sort of be the point of the show...
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
quote:Originally posted by Julia: You like bucky? why? He's a Bo Bice wanna-be, only uglier, stupider, with a worse voice. Over all he's just crusty. I think he needs to go take a shower for once.
Well, he seems like a genuine person, not like some prefab pop clone. As far as his voice goes, it may not be perfect, but it has character and is especially suited for country music, which I imagine is where he really wants to go with his music. Ugly? Well, I don't think so, but that's a subjective thing and I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, anyway. And I'm not sure what his intelligence has to do with anything, either, to be honest. But, hey, to each their own.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
ok. I suppose your right. I was being stupid and I'm sorry.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
Woh! and I just realized what i hypocrite I was being! I need a slap in the face!
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Okay, after last night, anyone here NOT think that Kevin is going tonight?
It's sad, but I laughed through his whole performance. He was so funny...that whole dance thing he was doing was uncannily like Bert's pidgeon dance from Sesame Street. I felt bad, and a bit guilty for being SO amused, but I was just dying watching him. If they ever do a live action version of Bert and Ernie using real people instead of muppets, Kevin should absolutely play Bert.
The really unfortunate part was that Kevin really does have a nice voice. I hope he goes into musical theater.
I liked the song Kellie sang. She was clearly uncomfortable with it, but I thought it was simple and pretty. I'd never heard it before, so that might have been part of it. No basis of comparison. The tarantula eyelashes comment made me laugh.
Favorite performances of the night: Chris and Bucky. I felt that both of them took the songs they got and really owned them.
addited: Oh, and I really liked Katherine's performance, but hated, really hated her dress. For a woman who was denying rumors last week that she was pregnant, she sure made a fashion choice to argue the denials.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Mandisa sang one of my favorite Stevie songs ever and did it so well. Chris was definitely the stand out though (and I always love what Paris does.)
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
The third dude did one of my favourite songs, Knocks me off my feet. Love that song Love it. But Chris and Mandisa and Taylor bought down the house.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
quote:It's sad, but I laughed through his whole performance. He was so funny...that whole dance thing he was doing was uncannily like Bert's pidgeon dance from Sesame Street. I felt bad, and a bit guilty for being SO amused, but I was just dying watching him. If they ever do a live action version of Bert and Ernie using real people instead of muppets, Kevin should absolutely play Bert.
Did you watch Jimmy Kimmel last night? He said, "so American Idol is more popular than ever and had thousands and thousands of applicants, and THIS MUPPET made the top 12?"
My gosh. The clip I saw of Kevin made me regret missing Idol last night, if only for the comic amusement of his routine. My bf didn't stop laughing for a full minute it was so unintentionally funny.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
No!! I don't watch Jimmy Kimmel. That's hysterical, and now I don't feel so bad getting that instant mental image.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
If Kevin is not voted off tonight, there is no justice in the world. I cannot believe he made it this far. I was so sad that Gedeon wasn't there to sing a Stevie Wonder song! He would have been wonderful! Instead we got to hear chicken little make a fool of himself. The self-proclaimed sex symbol singing about being a part time lover...it was all too much! He's 16 and looks like he's 12, for crying out loud!
My roommates and I are worried for Elliot. We really like him, but he doesn't seem very popular. My roommates spent most of the two hours after the show last night voting for him in hopes they could keep him from getting kicked off before Kevin. I sometimes wish we could just vote for the people we want to get kicked off...it would be much easier.
It's so fun to get into this show! This is my first season watching it, and it really is a blast. Posted by johnsonweed (Member # 8114) on :
I can't believe that Chicken Little is there and Gedeon is not.
Posted by Traveler (Member # 3615) on :
I think Kevin is actually developing an attitude problem. I wonder if he is actually believing this whole 'sex symbol' nonsense.
He had better be gone after tonight.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
I predict either Kevin or Elliott will go tonight.
The young girls might keep Kevin around longer, who knows. My kids all like Ace (cause he's cute) Taylor (cause he's from Birmingham) and Mandisa (because she can sing). I agree with what was posted earlier, by the way - there is lots of things about Mandisa that are beautiful besides just her face. I thought she looked fantastic last night.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Jenny, I think Elliot's problem is mostly image. He's got an amazing voice -- and what better endorsement can you get than having Stevie Wonder say "You should definitely pursue this as a professional career."? I think he was the most glowing about Elliot's talent of all 12. The problem is that Elliot looks like Uncle Fester. Not quite that bad, but close. I was really hoping that the stylists would be able to do something with him, and perhaps they will in the coming weeks.
I like what they did with Taylor. His hair looked much better last night. I love the grey and I hope the stylists aren't serious about dyeing it. It would be like dyeing Richard Gere or George Clooney's hair. Sacrilege.
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
I think Taylor kind of looks like George Clooney. Anybody else see that?
I agree about Elliot, which makes me sad. He's one of my very favorite guys (with Chris and sometimes Taylor).
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
"Instead we got to hear chicken little make a fool of himself."
I think he did OK. I think it is sad and pathetic that he has made it this far, only to be the (chicken) butt of so many jokes.
Did anyone else have an ad for the Chicken Little dvd? Egads. It made me feel so sad for him.
(he does look just like him. Oh, dear)
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
More like dying Dmitri Hvorostovsky's hair. He's so cool. Running around with white hair singing Baritone and being Russian. I like that guy. Elliot sang that song I love so much, didn't he? He had better not be voted off. There was this girl, she's cute, but... I thought Simon had ear plugs on. To me she sounded terrible!
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I bet Kevin will be a Anthony Michael Hall type, where he looks like a total geek as a teen, but will turn into quite the looker as he puts age and weight on. It's almost a shame he made it this far this season. He'd probably have done MUCH better in his early 20s with some more seasoning.
(Brinestone, I'm with you on the Taylor-George look similarity. It's in the chin more than anything else.)
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I don't see George. I see Michael McDonald in his earlier years, and I think he milks that a bit.
I love Taylor. He just makes me smile.
Eliiot does have a phenomenal voice.
Mandisa is still my pick, though. Man, does she have some moves. I don't think she'll win, but I want her to.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Kevin is safe. I am stunned. Just...wow.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
But.. well... A cub singing part-time lovers? No...
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
Wow, Kev's still in
I must admit, part of me is secretly rooting for him. And Taylor's too cool to be removed.
--j_k
Posted by gnixing (Member # 768) on :
I'm just disappointed Ace wasn't the one to go. Of the bottom three tonight - he was the worst. In my opinion, the guy can't sing.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Nah, those two girls were definitely worse. I can't stand watching Ace sing with the flipping of the hair and the strange gyrations, but he does have a more consistent voice than the two girls that were up there with him tonight. If he goes before Kevin, I'll lose all my faith in the american public.
I think we'll lose Lisa next week (or whatever her name is that was in the bottom 3 last night) and Kevin will be close behind. I don't think we'll hang onto him that long. Just long enough to shock everyone into NOT voting for him with a vengeance in about 2 weeks.
I love Mandisa, Katherine, Paris, Chris, Taylor and Elliot. I hope we start to lose the spares soon. Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
My "I love" list is exactly like yours, Narnia. Posted by Vamp96 (Member # 9030) on :
I was kinda bored this week. I guess Stevie Wonder's music is just not my thing. It was a bit fun seeing what the different contestents would do with that genre though.
Taylor's moves seemed to be less spastic this week. I like him since he's from Alabama. His grandmother threw a viewing party for him in Gulf Shores on Tuesday night. I hear she will be doing it again on Tuesday. I bet she is one proud granny.
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
I was stunned that Kevin was *safe* and NOT one of the bottom three.
I was less stunned that Melissa was the one to go. Here's hoping Kevin goes next week. I admit to some ulterior motive in this hope...we'll go to see the Idol tour this year, provided there's a performance close enough, and only the top 10 go on tour. I'm not sure I'd really like to see Kevin in concert.
It'll be interesting to see what genre they're doing next week.
Posted by seven (Member # 5367) on :
I'm really upset that Lisa was in the bottom three. She's been my favorite ever since we first saw her.
Posted by Vamp96 (Member # 9030) on :
seven, i was shocked about Lisa being in the bottom three too. She is really talented.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Even if her style isn't my favorite, Lisa is very talented and at the least, better than Kevin.
But it's just about that point where the good ones are going to be sent home as well as the weak ones.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
quote:If he goes before Kevin, I'll lose all my faith in the american public.
I could not agree more, Narnia. But I've felt that way every week since the top 24 started. Anytime someone else is kicked off, I think to myself that it should have been Kevin.
It almost seems to me like they're deliberately sabotaging Ace on the show. His performance Tuesday was better than several others, but since he was first (again) he was forgotten. And then when they lumped him together with Kevin in the recap yesterday, calling them both "the sex symbols", I right out yelled at the TV. I like Ace. He's not my favorite, but I feel a necessary bias toward him because he is from my home stake (Boulder, CO.). Yes, he was raised LDS. Don't know if he's still active though.
I cannot *believe* Kevin is still around! It's getting quite ridiculous. Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Ace was raised LDS? Wow, I didn't know that. Cool. No wonder he's so good looking.
I guess I start voting this week. Ace can't go next week. I don't mind losing Lisa, but by talent alone, she should make the top 6.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
We should all (hah, all 12 or so of us, but whatever) pick one talented person who might be in the bottom 3 to vote for next week in order to ensure Kevin, not Lisa or Ace, rightfully goes home.
After all, if he doesn't, he will be going on the Idol Tour.
Not like it matters too much. In a few weeks only the strongest shall remain...
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Provided that Ace has a good performance next week, I'm good with devoting my vote time to him. Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
I doubt Ace will go home next week, or even be in the bottom three. I think the fact that he was this week will shock people into remembering to vote for him.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
I sure hope so...the way everyone boo'd when it got announced would make it seem that way. There are about four of us in my apartment that vote like crazy every week for the ones we care about to hopefully make Kevin get kicked off...hasn't worked yet. First Gedeon got kicked off, and then Ace was in the bottom three. Doesn't seem like we really have done much good. We're not giving up though!
Posted by whiskysunrise (Member # 6819) on :
So, you can vote for more than one person, and you can vote more than once for anyone?
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
Yes, and yes. I've done both. (Am I really admitting to that? Yikes. ) In fact, after the Ace debacle last night, Ryan made some kind of comment about making sure you vote for all the contestants that you support.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
quote: Ace was raised LDS? Wow, I didn't know that. Cool. No wonder he's so good looking.
Ok jeniwren, you've got some 'splaining to do about that one... Posted by Roseauthor (Member # 148) on :
Am I the only one who thinks Bucky needs to GO!?!
After the Fantasia fiasco, I decided not to take my voting lightly. Vote for Chris, Taylor, (insert name here,) even if you just think they'll do fine without your vote.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Narnia, I'm firmly of the opinion that LDS young people are better looking than the average non-LDS young person. It's that clean-cut honest good living look.
Roseauthor, I'm surprised he's made it this far, but truth told, I think he's put in some very good performances given the limitations of his actual talent. He knows what kind of singer he is and he's sticking with what he's good at. This week's performance is a good example...he thoroughly countrified Superstition in a way that was true to the song but also true to his style. It was an excellent choice in what was for him a minefield of songs. He's playing the game very well.
I'm at a loss for why Kevin is still in it, though.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
I still maintain that Bucky has an interesting voice. It isn't beautiful, sure, but that sort of raspiness that comes through sometimes has a lot of character. And goodness knows, there's a good number of folks who have had great success in the music business who can't actually sing. I certainly don't think Bucky will survive through till the end of the competition, because he really is a country artist and doesn't have the versatility of some of the others in the competition. But for now, I think there are others who need to go before he does. Kevin and most of the women come to mind.
I really enjoyed Bucky's performance of "Superstition", anyway, although it owed a lot more to Stevie Ray Vaughan's version than to Stevie Wonder's original.
Otherwise, I think Taylor's voice is growing on me, although I think he needs to quit giggling like a little girl and lose some of the Joe Cocker twitches he has. I like Chris's voice as well, but there's something about him that irritates me that I can't quite identify. I was really impressed with Ace's performance of "Father Figure", but otherwise I think he's riding more on his looks than his actual talent. Of the women, Mandisa and Paris are the only ones who have impressed me at all as having any real talent.
Posted by Roseauthor (Member # 148) on :
Littlemiss: I agree with your choices for females. They are my favs also!
And I will concede that his rendition of Superstition was great.. but they screwed up his hair terribly. I think he would have fared better on CMT's talent search show. He would have had more of a venue for his style and talent.. (maybe I would have liked him more on CMT) and yes, I like country music. Buckey just seems a bit ignorant and I usually have issues with character more than anything in talent shows.
I don't like Kellie for the same reason. She acts like an idiot. She does have talent singing, but I don't think we need another Jessica Simpson in the arena. I'm hyper critical of character.
I like Kevin as a person. However, I think he needs to be on Broadway! He just seems like that would be his 'place' in life. He's a cute kid, fun however, his voice seems like it belongs in musicals rather than as an idol.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
quote:It isn't beautiful, sure, but that sort of raspiness that comes through sometimes has a lot of character.
Kurt Cobain, Louie Armstrong, Bob Dylan, etc.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kristen:
quote:It isn't beautiful, sure, but that sort of raspiness that comes through sometimes has a lot of character.
Kurt Cobain, Louie Armstrong, Bob Dylan, etc.
Exactly. Neil Young comes to mind, as well.
Roseauthor...I do agree with you that Bucky's hair was a disaster on Tuesday. Poor guy, getting compared to Jessica Simpson. Ouch. However, I tend to think that his manner shows not so much ignorance as shyness. I could be wrong, but I know people like that, who come off in social situations as not that bright but who are only very shy. And it isn't all that unusual for shy people to end up as performers.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
quote: I still maintain that Bucky has an interesting voice. It isn't beautiful, sure, but that sort of raspiness that comes through sometimes has a lot of character. And goodness knows, there's a good number of folks who have had great success in the music business who can't actually sing.
Yeah, and if Bucky can write music as well as Kurt Cobain, Neil Young or Tom Waits, he could probably do very well singing it himself. But if his vocal quality is his only musical talent, he'd better find another marketable skill pretty quickly.
Just my opinion.
[ March 18, 2006, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Baron Samedi ]
Posted by gnixing (Member # 768) on :
Seriously, if I heard Ace on the radio, I'd turn it off. People only are voting for him for the sex appeal.
Posted by estavares (Member # 7170) on :
Taylor needs to win this. Seriously. He's my hero.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
Anybody see it tonight? I'm surprised this isn't on the front page yet.
I've got a couple of thoughts.
First off, yes, Chris is a good singer. Yes, he knows who he is and refuses to comprimise. But (even though I may get stoned for saying this) I think he's taking it a bit too far. I mean, when his versions of Fuel, Stevie Wonder and Johnny Cash sound exactly the same, maybe a little compromise wouldn't kill him. I like him a song at a time, but I can't imagine I'd ever have enough will power to make it through an entire album of his identical sounding performances.
Has anyone noticed that the harder Lisa tries to get into a song, the more phony and disconnected she feels? Of course, she's kind of got my pet peeve this year. Namely, I hate it when people come out on stage and demand that the audience get up and start dancing. If you to a performance like Taylor had tonight, people will start grooving because they can't help it. But it seems like the performers who have to command their audience to stand up and clap are performers who know that the only way people are even going to pretend to be entertained by them is under duress.
Katherine is getting to be one of my favorites. I didn't like the arrangement of her song tonight as much as I usually do, but she's one of the few performers that makes the beginning of her songs work just as well at the big note at the end. Most people can't hit the low notes, and sound like they didn't even bother practicing the verses because they spent all week preparing for their final scream. But Katherine has a great range, and she always starts out really strong and builds from there. Over the last couple weeks I've realized that I wouldn't mind seeing her win the competition.
That's all I can think about from this week. Did anyone else see it?
[ March 22, 2006, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: Baron Samedi ]
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
I really like Catherine, too. I'm starting to get excited about the girls now. I didn't watch the girls when they were separated, so I was stuck on the guys for a while, but tonight I started noticing the female talent.
My favorite girls: 1. Mandisa--I think she's my very favorite, and I'd love for her to win. Didn't she look gorgeous tonight? 2. Paris--Of the young ones, I think she's the most believable, and her rendition of Fever was quite good tonight. 3. Catherine--She is just beautiful, and she's also talented.
My favorite boys: 1. Elliot--I think he's the most talented of the guys, and his only drawback is that he doesn't have the look. However, his looks have been improving every week. The consultants are doing a good job with him, I think. 2. Ace--He's got a bad rep because of his good looks, but I honestly think he's talented. His performance tonight was much improved, aside from his apparent nervousness (which is understandable, coming from the bottom three after being so popular at the outset). I think tonight's performance will be a confidence booster for him. 3. Chris--Sure his performances sound the same each week, but at least he knows what he's good at. And he's dang good at it. Plus he has the look, and I love the fact that he's a family guy.
Apparently I'm in the minority in not liking Taylor. He freaks me out. I think he's a spaz.
Oh, and of course, Chicken Little was terrible as ever...why is he still on the show?? Posted by Roseauthor (Member # 148) on :
Taylor is still my favorite because he's not a fake or pretender. He is what he is.
Chris: still strong in his skill and I would like to see a ballad or something a little more diverse.
Kellie sucked as usual and I think it showed when she screwed up Patsy Cline! (I love Cline! and that was absolutely horrible!)
Cath is getting better.. agreed .. growing on me!
I thought Kevin was awesome this time! Great choice! Great performance.
Mandisa.. well.. she's always great.. professional.. she should have never needed AI! Reminds me a lot of Fantasia! She ownes!
the rest just sucked tonight! Including ACE! He was off key, not convincing, and .. to be honest, I've dated guys who sang better and had better performance on the stage!
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
Chris reminds me of a guy I used to work with. When I started at this job, I was talking to one of my co-workers about music. He told me that he loved music and had a ton of CDs. "Cool", I thought, since I also love music and we get to listen to some in the background while we work. So I opened up his CD notebook and had a look around. I saw Paul Oakenfold, Paul Van Dyk, DJ Micro, Tiesto, Sasha & Digweed, Armin Van Buuren, George Acosta... He had at least 100 CDs and every single one was an identical sounding DJ in the exact same genre of trance-techno.
Now I've got nothing serious against trance. The occasional album, if done well, can be quite enjoyable. But of all the brilliant music that has been made over the course of the past millenium, I couldn't believe the microscopic little corner of the world he'd found for himself. So I told him that before I quit working with him, I'd expand his horizons a little bit.
Between putting stuff on at work and loaning him some CDs from my collection, I gradually tried to open his mind. I tried some of the greatest albums of all time, Kind of Blue, Sgt. Pepper, Who's Next, Innervisions, The Joshua Tree, etc. No dice. So I went a little closer to his comfort level. I tried him on Moby, Morcheeba, The Chemical Brothers, DJ Shadow, Prodigy, Propellerheads. He didn't mind it, but he wasn't ever going to listen to it again. Finally I even tried Orbital, slightly different sounding than the club DJs, but one of the classic and genre-defining trance albums from the early '90s. It was too old for him. So finally I gave up and let him stick to his incredibly specific comfort level.
Chris reminds me of that. I get the feeling that every CD he owns, or isn't embarassed to own, is by people that occupy the exact same sub-sub-subgenre of music. And while it's not my favorite genre, there's nothing inherently wrong with it. I just can't wrap my head around someone who's so willing to forsake all the mind-blowing musical diversity that exists and spend their entire life listening to Fuel, Staind and Nickelback.
It's like someone who refuses to go to Hawaii, Tokyo or Athens because they saw Bryce Canyon first and they won't leave the park.
Posted by Vamp96 (Member # 9030) on :
I think Paris gave my favorite performance last night.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
I missed Paris performing Fever??? Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I got addicted last week. I watched the second season of Idol but was able to get over it, the next two years were too busy. Last week I was at a family friend's house for spring break and forced to watch it, now I'm stuck.
I'm so glad large portions of hatrack don't like Kevin, I usually like geeky guys, but he bothers me. My favorites are Ace and Paris. I missed Mandisa last night, but I'm sure she was fabulous. I would like Kellie if she just sang and didn't talk about the pickles on the signs.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
Sigh. I've got a feeling that Bucky is probably going to be the one to go tonight. I don't think he did as bad a job as Simon seems to think he did, and his actual physical performance was my favorite that he's done so far. But he seemed nervous and it showed in his voice.
Of course who wouldn't be nervous, having to follow that wonderful performance by Mandisa. It did me good to hear Simon call her performance sexy after his nasty comments earlier about her weight.
In other observations...I hated Chris's performance. Ace was good. Taylor continues to grow on me, but I still have trouble watching his twitches. I'm still not that thrilled about any of the women except for Mandisa and Paris - the rest of them are all just sort of bland. And I don't care if Kevin's vocal was marginally better this week. He still needs to go.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I don't think Bucky's going. I think it's Lisa. She's an amazing talent, but she definitely showed her age last night in the pre and post performance interviewing. And I thought she would have been better off with a cleaner look. I didn't like the outfit she chose. But then, I think she's sort of like Kevin, in that her primary gift is not for pop, but for musical theater.
Kevin was better last night, and he made a smart move, I think, by losing the smart alec kid routine. And the silly sex-symbol gimmick. He played it innocent and a little backward, which I think fits with who he really is. I think he's sticking around like Scott Savol did last year. I could NOT figure out how he lasted so long last year, but when I saw him on stage during the Idol Tour, it became more obvious. He actually had quite a lot more stage presence than translated through the camera. I have to wonder a little if there's some of that for Kevin. No way to tell, but it looks like I'll be seeing him on stage later this year to find out. *shrug*
Mandisa gave the performance of the season, IMO. Simon's comments were right on target -- it was sexy, loved it. I also loved Katherine's performance. Beautiful dress, beautiful look overall.
I didn't like Taylor's performance on the first viewing, but watched again this morning while eating breakfast and changed my mind. It was just fun. Not my favorite of his, but it was good.
But, I'll say that my favorite performance was Chris's take on Walk the Line. It was different. I liked it mostly because his genre doesn't do anything for me, yet his rendition stayed with me and I was still hearing it this morning in the shower. He made the song his own, with meaning for his particular situation as a husband away from his family. I really liked it.
So, my bottom three tonight: Lisa, Elliot, and Bucky. With Lisa leaving.
Posted by seven (Member # 5367) on :
I'm a little disappointed at how many people support Paris so much. She's cute, and she's got a good voice, but they all do. She's nothing special. She deserves to be on the show, but she shouldn't win.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Mandisa was absolutely incredible. If her performance was not the first one, I don't think there would be a question in anyone's mind that she blew every single one of the others away.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
Favorite: Paris, Katherine, Mandisa
Least favorite: Kevin, Bucky, Lisa. Bucky needs to go.
I wish people didn't think Ace was cute cause I really don't like him. Can't stand gayish vain boys.
Oh, and Paris IS something special. She's amazing. Especially in a compitition against Bucky, Kevin, and Pickler
[ March 22, 2006, 07:35 PM: Message edited by: Julia ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Good-bye, Kevin.
I must say that his farewell speech was the most classy I have ever heard from a contestant. I will miss the little guy(who is bigger than Seacrest).
However, I think the voting has gone the way it should so far, the first time I have thought that.
Mandisa is so far outside of the group that to me she is a clear winner already. I doubt she will win, though.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I don't know when I've ever been so glad to be wrong.
I didn't realize that Kevin was bigger than Ryan until tonight. He's bigger than he looks. I am looking forward to seeing what he looks like when he's 25.
I wonder what the theme will be next week? I liked the 50's theme...wasn't so enamored of the Stevie Wonder theme.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
It's 21st century music, they said it at the end of the episode.
I'm not sure I'll watch (it'll be on against Gilmore girls!).
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I was kind of sad to see Kevin go, since last week probably was his best performance, but we all knew he would be leaving sooner rather than later.
I'll have to say this week was one of the better shows for most of the contestants. Barry Manilow must really be a good coach. It was interesting watching him teach them how to arrange the songs.
Bucky needs to leave next. I agree Ace is getting by on looks. I know Elliot can sing, but for some reason I just don’t like him, doesn’t seem to feel the music. The opposite of Taylor who sings pretty well, but really gets by on his personality. Mandisa was awesome this week again and she really did look great.
Chris should be able to pick something right up his alley this week. Lots of alternative rock to choose from in the 21st century. It will be interesting to see how Taylor will do with something modern.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Carver, could Elliot not being able to feel the music be because he is deaf in one ear? I like him, but he's not my absolute favorite. Ace is (for the guys) and that likely could be the looks thing, but maybe not just that. I also really like Chris.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I don't think it has to do with his hearing. He obviously can hear well enough or he wouldn't be able to sing so well. I think he seems a little mechanical, not nearly as bad as the basketball girl was though. Needs more soul.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
quote:Originally posted by SC Carver: Chris should be able to pick something right up his alley this week. Lots of alternative rock to choose from in the 21st century.
Not necessarily. Unless I misheard, the theme next week will be the Top Ten of the 21st century. Which seems to imply ten specific songs, for the ten contestants who are left in the competition, and not a lot of choice to be made. I could be wrong, but that's what it sounded like to me. Anyway, I think Chris needs to be shoved out of his comfort zone so we can see exactly how he copes with that. And, yes, I think it will be interesting to see how Taylor copes with something modern.
Yeah. As much as I like Bucky, he's going to need to up his game or he won't be there much longer. I'm not sure that next week's theme will help him out a lot. But, I'm still of the opinion that they need to weed some of the women out of there. With the exception of those I named earlier (Mandisa and Paris), there just doesn't seem to be any there there among the female contestants. Too bad that Pink's "Stupid Girls" probably isn't one of the top ten of the 21st century - I'd like to see one of the women see if they can tackle that one and give it a credible reading.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I think top 10's of the 21st century would mean any song that was on the top 10 list during the 21st century. So you probably could see Pink's song, although I don't know if anyone will pick it.
They have been trying to shove Chris out of his comfort zone the past two weeks and he just rewrites the songs in his style. It take a totally different type of talent to be able to sucessfully do that.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
quote:Originally posted by SC Carver: They have been trying to shove Chris out of his comfort zone the past two weeks and he just rewrites the songs in his style. It take a totally different type of talent to be able to sucessfully do that.
Yes, but it does raise a question: Is he putting the songs in a style consistent with the music he likes because he is so good at it, or is he doing so because he doesn't have the range to do anything else? Not that it isn't a valid tactic; others have done the same thing, this season and in seasons past. But it seems like he isn't getting called on it in the same way and to the same degree others are.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
He probably doesn't have that much of a range, but there have been plenty of singers who have had nice careers without much variety. Eddie Vedder, comes to mind. Of course he could write good songs.
I don't think Chris is getting called on it because he is doing such a good job of changing them up to fit his style. Unlike say Constantine last year who tried but wasn't as good, in my opinion.
Posted by MandyM (Member # 8375) on :
Admittedly I have not read the rest of this thread (so don't flame me if you all love him) but I am SO glad that Kevin was kicked off last night. He was horrible and every week I just couldn't figure out why they loved him so much. Ugh!
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
My whole apartment screamed in glee when he got kicked off. I was beginning to think there was no justice in the world.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I suspect that the only reason Kevin was not off last week was that the fine fans of votefortheworst.com were using dialidol.com, which I understand was not working this week due to a cease and desist order from Fox. Interesting articles on dialidol.com. I guess the guy got tired of dialing by hand so he invented a computer based speed dialer. Then he made it available to other Idol fans...while recording the number of busy signals encountered in voting. One article I read said that at least 13,000 votes came from dialidol. The cease and desist comes in because the guy then used the busy signal stats to post a best-guess prediction for who got the least number of votes. In some cases, his database was right on...but last week was dead wrong: Elliott got the least number of busy signal answers.
Whatever the reason, I think that kind of hightechness (and contrariness in the case of votefortheworst.com, who are now backing Kellie Pickler -- a move that makes little sense to me when Bucky is still in the game) takes the fun out of it. I started voting this week and found that busy signals were common in the first few minutes of voting, but half an hour later, I got through with every call I placed.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
eww...I don't like Kellie Pickler. I think that votefortheworst.com is funny, even if it's rather infuriating.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
My opinion of the Idol contestants haven't really changed (Mandisa, Chris, Taylor, and Paris are strong favorites), but I was excited to recognize so many of their songs from this week.
Also, I'm not a major fan of Barry Manilow, but I was really impressed with his thoughtful advice for the contestants. Perhaps this is my classical music training bias, but I usually assume pop music icons don't have the technical knowledge behind their talent (as many don't even write their lyrics!). He seemed to really know what he was doing.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
EDIT: This was snarky and I regretted posting it almost at once. Sorry!
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
I just read an article on Chris' performance last week. I guess there's a bit of a stir caused by the fact that the version of the Johnny Cash song he did wasn't his own, but a note-for-note copy of Live's cover of the same song.
So I guess the thing that makes Chris remarkable isn't so much that he's true to his vision and refuses to compromise as that he has a huge and homogenous CD collection with some conveniently diverse cover songs.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
Anyone see this tonight?
I wasn't that impressed really with any of them. Most of the people in that competition need to maybe read this thread. If they can't sing original songs, the least they can do to show some talent is do versions of songs that don't sound exactly like the original.
I thought it was funny that Chris had his little dialogue about the Live cover from last week like he'd been crediting them all along. And I liked how Simon finally called him on sounding the exact same every week. Simon was fairly dead-on tonight in general, IMHO.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Is it just me, or is Katharine really not that good? Sure she's cute, but I didn't like her performance at all. She did these voice things. But the usual people tore down the house.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I liked Taylor the best by far tonight. I wasn't crazy about his song, but his voice is just so good and soulful.
Syn: Well, she did a Christina Ag song, and no offense if you like Xtina, but I don't think she's exactly a paragon of vocal ability. Katharine seems to adapt her voice to what she's singing--for better or for worse.
And yes Baron, wasn't impressed either. Just because it was current music didn't mean it was "pick your favorite song" night and I think most of the contestants missed that.
Posted by MandyM (Member # 8375) on :
I thought everyone but Taylor generally stank tonight. Maybe it was a tribute to the departed Kevin Covais?
I was a Katharine fan early on but I didn't like her this week. I also don't like Christina so maybe that is part of it. I thought Bucky was better this week but he still should be in the bottom three. Ace is my vote to get the boot.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I thought Katharine was better this week then I've ever seen her. She usually looks and acts so incredibly fake that I can't stand her. Tonight it was like she was actually being herself.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
It really was sad how unimpressive everyone's performances were tonight. I predict the bottom three will be Ace, Lisa, and Bucky. I think Lisa should be the one kicked off this week though...she wasn't even singing in tune for most of her song tonight! It was painful to listen to.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I'll have to agree that the show was rather unimpressive last night. Most if not all of the performances were very forgettable. I think everyone did songs they really liked rather than songs they could do a good job singing.
Ace was terrible, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the boot, but it will probably be Lisa , or Bucky. Of course being from SC I had no problem understanding Bucky, and I thought that was how country singers were supposed to sound.
I totally agreed with Simon about Paris . She looked like a little girl trying to act like an adult. Beyonce exudes sex appeal and I am sorry to say Paris doesn't. She needs to stick to the fun stuff and stay away from sexy.
I disagreed with Simon on Mandesa . I had no problem with the song choice. I don't think it was self indulgent, I think her fans will have enjoyed it.
I was disappointed with Chris both with his performance last night and to find out that wasn't his arrangement on "Walk the line" last week. He has done much better than last night. But I disagree that he needs to change is style. If he was girl who could nail the “diva” style each week no one would complain, but since he is doing rock they say he needs to do something else. I think he could do something a little slower or less hard one week to show some range, but he should stick with the rock.
Taylor is my favorite and I enjoyed his song last night. I friend gave me a copy of his CD. I guess it was a self release from before he was on the show. I have been totally enjoying it, too bad it is only 8 songs. It not something that is going to blow your socks off, but it is a great laid back CD to listen to while enjoying your favorite beverage. He obviously has studied a lot of music and all his different Blues, Jazz and Rock influences come through. I can’t wait to see what he will do with some time in the studio and good producers. If he is the one playing the guitar on the CD he is very good. I wonder if one of the reason's Simon keeps saying this is a singing competition is because they won't him play while he sings. It looks like Taylor keeps wanting to pull out his harmonica and play, but he is not supposed to.
Posted by Vamp96 (Member # 9030) on :
I agree...the performances were pretty lame last night. I hope its better next week. I think Lisa will get the boot tonight. I really hope Paris stops the skanky dancing..ugh.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Lisa was awful last night, so I'll be very surprised if she isn't gone tonight. It's too bad, really, because I think in another three years or so, she could win AI. 'Course, she won't need it then, I'm sure. She should stick to Broadway.
I didn't mind Mandisa's song choice, but like Simon said, I did think it was a bit indulgent. That said, she (and Chris) can afford some self indulgence. I don't like that song...it's a frequent feature on the playlists of one of the radio stations I listen to, and I have been known to change it when that song comes on. Worse, though, was that Mandisa didn't sing it particularly well. It was like she was so enthused about singing her kind of music that she was pushed her voice too hard. I hated Chris's performance. It was terrible.
I didn't quite know what to do with Ace last night. I like that song and didn't think he did it poorly. But I wasn't wowed.
Taylor was kept my attention, but the song was new to me, so I don't know if he did it well or not. I liked it. Didn't knock my socks off, but I liked that he stood in one spot and just sang. I really liked Katharine's performance. I thought she looked great, best fashion choice she's made yet, and I thought she sounded excellent. I think Christina A has an incredible voice, though I don't have any of her albums...I do think that her songs are not easy to sing. And I think Katharine did the song well. I was wowed.
I also really liked Paris's energy. She was fun. It didn't seem sexy to me, just high energy. Sexy is Mandisa's performance last week. This was just fun.
The one that really wowed me, though, was Elliot. It was his best performance yet, I thought. By far. Much more personality and he looked a lot less like Uncle Fester than he usually does. He got my Best Performance of the Night award.
Last but not least, Bucky is the one who got my votes. It was a very good song choice and I thought it showed off his smokey voice very well. I like Tim McGraw and that song and from the openning notes, I actually liked Bucky's voice for that song better. It was very authentic.
Overall, though, it was a lackluster night of generally very strange song choices. I liked 50's night much better.
My bottom three: Lisa, Ace and Bucky. With Lisa leaving.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Was it just me or did Paula seem remarkably cogent last night?
Not only could I understand every word she said, but she actually offered constructive criticism that made sense. This is the Paula I loved from first season. I hope she stays (although the slurring is kind of funny sometimes).
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
That's hilarious! My fiance was like, "What's different about Paula tonight? There's something different." She was sober!
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
quote:Was it just me or did Paula seem remarkably cogent last night?
Her comment about Bucky's diction was spot on-- but then after that, she babbled so much about the 'funky white boy,' I had to assume she hit the bottle again.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Remember her "You'll have to tell me how you got that" remark to Ace? >_< And then she seemed so surprised and innocent when Simon called her on it.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Yes, Jon Boy, I remember.
Puhleeeze, Paula...
For me, it was Simon saying, "Come on you dumb idiot, don't you remember all the trouble you got into over this last year???"
And that Ryan Seacrest drives me mad!
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
??? Katharine over Bucky in the final three???
My mind cannot comprehend how this happened.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
Never underestimate the popularity of Country. Country fans picked the winnerlast year. Just think, when Bucky goes that means Kelly gets more votes.
Also never underestimate the number of 10-14 girls voting. That is the only reason I can think that Ace wasn't in the bottom two. He can't sing.
I know Katharine can sing, but she just doesn't do it for me. She just seems boring. I guess a lot of other people agreed with me.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
She's cute, but I really didn't like all those voice things she did...
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
I'm not sure what you mean by "voice things." The thing about Katharine is that, unlike many of the other contestants, she has a highly trained voice. She's not "natural talent." She's studied voice her whole life, and she sings like it. She's very reserved, but she can do things with her voice that no one else can. I think the "voice things" she does is just her way of showing that she's capable of more than one sound.
I do agree that she's bland personality-wise, but I also think she deserves to make it to the final four.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
So who did they get rid of?
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
Lisa, of course.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Bye bye Lisa. The big surprise was Katharine being the second lowest votes, but I am sure she won't be in any danger next week. Ace will continue to bounce at the bottom until he goes, which may very well be next week with the theme being country.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Chris Daughtry does. I'm actually really looking forward to next week...I'm one of those who loves country and felt all along last year that Carrie should win. But I don't think either of the country singers this year are good enough. There isn't anybody in the lineup now whose album I'd buy, at least at this point.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Ace looked like he was in pain during his entire performance last night, he really needs to make some changes.... It's good to get rid of Lisa. I think Bucky is next, followed by ...
And here is where it gets difficult. After Lisa and Bucky, we've gotten rid of the weak (though sometimes really great) voices. In two weeks we start hacking into the people who actually could have singing careers.
My picks? We'll have to see. Unless Ace does something really really impressive, I think he'll be the first of that group to go. Kellie hasn't been impressing me much either. I like Katherine so much more...but Katherine needs to pull out all the stops too in order to stay OUT of the hotseat. It'll be interesting.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
I like Katherine, too. I think she'll be safe at least a couple more weeks now that everyone knows how easy it is for your favorites to fall to the bottom in votes.
What is with the country fans having so much pull anyway?? I don't know that many country fans myself. *sigh* Oh well. What can you do?
I'm really worried for Ace. He hasn't bounced back from his first bout in the bottom three. It completely shot his nerves. You can see the fear in his face almost constantly. Unless he's amazing next week, he's actually my prediction of who will be next to go. Bucky and Kellie are pretty safe if the theme's country.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I wouldn't say Bucky is safe if the theme is country, people will see that yes others are doing better than he is in his genre.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
So far, I feel that the voting is matching wht should happen. I hope that continues. In that case, my Mandisa gal would win for sure!
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I agree with Breyer.
My boyfriend pointed out that when singers who simply have gorgeous voices like Mandisa, Katharine, Paris, Elliot and my man Taylor sing country and do it decently enough (especially cause so many have the accent!) it will really undermine Kellie and Bucky and contrast against them.
Um, no offense country fans, but I hope it works.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I actually think Kellie can sing, and would make a decent country star (I didn't watch last year so I don't know too much about carrie underwood) but when she isn't singing I want to scream at her.
Bucky has average talent and very little sex appeal (in my oppinion).
Posted by estavares (Member # 7170) on :
Did anyone notice how they stagelight Mandisa?
They often shine a spot, leaving her in shadow from the waist down to hide her, uh, delightfully Rubenesque features. I thought it was nice, actually, so she could be judged by her voice and not her, um, additional assets.
GO TAYLOR!
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
So far tonight, I was disappointed in Paris' performance. She usually nails thing and is enjoyable to listen to but tonight, I almost had to change the channel.
(I'm sad that we tuned in late and missed Taylor. Hooray for Chris in branching out though!)
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Sweet: Taylor was good as always and Chris did pretty decent.
Wow, I thought Bucky did really really well.
I have NO idea who will be going home tomorrow. Ace? Hopefully not Katharine. I like her.
Posted by Landy Braine (Member # 9014) on :
I Love Taylor...he's original, funny, CUTE-- but he just stood there tonight and gave a really bland performance. I think the judges making fun of his dancing, coupled wtih the positive feedback he got last week for standing in one spot, has made him a little shy. I hope the REAL Taylor comes back next week.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Katharine was actually pretty good today... Better than last week.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Oh well umm Ace was my favorite of the night(I actually had a few tears but it's already been a weepy day, don't ask). I actually wouldn't be surprised if Taylor goes home, though I don't really want that. At this point they're all pretty good. I didn't like Bucky's performance at all, but I'm pretty sure many others did.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
I thought Ace did very well tonight, but in my mind he seems the most logical candidate to go home. A website we looked at after the show predicted it would be Mandisa, but that's too far-fetched (and totally depressing!). I like Ace, and I think his talent gets overlooked because he's categorized as a pretty boy who is riding on his appearance. Plus, he's been letting his nerves control his preformance for the past couple weeks. This week was SO much better. Hmm...it will be interesting to see the bottom three tomorrow. Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I might be biased...I almost always turn to a different station when Tonight I'm Gonna To Cry comes on the radio, but I really didn't like Ace's performance, except for the falsetto riff at the end. That was brilliant. The rest of it, though, was extremely nasal. It brought whining into a song that is barely tolerable as Keith Urban sings it...definitely not an improvement.
I was very happy with Paris's performance, but probably more because I had kinda picked out my 'Fantasy Idol' songs for many of the contestants, and for Paris, I'd pretty much figured any Leann Rimes song would be good. She chose well and did that song well. It helped that the song was released by two different artists when it came out, both of whom did it with significant differences. It was clear that Paris modelled on Rimes rather than Yearwood. A good choice, IMO.
My biggest disappointment was in Taylor, who looked like he was hating every minute up on stage. His usual effusive love of the music was damped down to a forced I'm-going-to-get-through-this sort of thing. It did not help that I'd chosen Blake Shelton's Nobody But Me for Taylor (which I would still LOVE to hear him do) and he picked a way lamer song.
I'd picked out a Sara Evans song for Kellie, and ended up much happier with what she actually picked. Fancy was a perfect song choice and she did it really, really well. Definitely one of her best performances.
I wanted Chris to do a Kenny Roger's song (any of them) out of a perverse sense of humor. I had no idea KR was going to be coaching this week. I liked what he did, though it was virtually unrecognizable. I liked the change of pace very much, especially as it showed he really can sing.
Mandisa's arrangement was terrible, but I think it's more because the band kept it country rather than morphing the country song to more of a R&B feel. Mandisa can't sing country...wrong accent and it's clearly a style she doesn't get. I was impressed, though, in that she managed to sing a Shania Twain song creditably. Better than creditably, really, as it made me want to hear the song rearranged R&B to better suit Mandisa's style. I think rearranged, she would have slayed all the competition singing that song. (Last season, Randy saddled a Shania Twain song on Carrie Underwood during Judge's Choice and it was predictably awful. Shania has a very distinctive voice that rings in the lower register, and Carrie had consistently shown she had trouble in that range. I consider it a huge risk to pick a Shania song at all.)
Katharine was the one that really surprised me. I've never heard the song she sang, but it was definitely country yet true to her style, and was very sexy. I don't think she has anything to worry about. I start voting about half an hour to 45 minutes after the phones open, and her line was busy every time I tried. Every other line I tried was wide open.
Bucky was very good (MUCH better enunciation), but I figure next week is his last week.
I figure Ace is going tonight, and that there will be some surprises in the bottom three.
edited for abuse of an apostrophe.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I just don't like Ace. Although I thought he did better than he has in a while. I can't stand when he does the falsetto thing, he is just as bad at that, as the rest of his singing. I don't know why Randy thinks it's so good.
Over all the only one on the show that surprised me was Chris. I was impressed with his song. I'm not a fan of country so it was hard for me to tell on some of the songs. Taylor definately had an off week. Hopefully he'll be back in form next week.
I really don't know who will go this week. As the worst get eliminated it gets harder to tell who's out. The 3 weakest contestants, Bucky, Kelly and Ace all had better weeks. Of Course is Kelly and Bucky didn't do good this week, when were they? I wouldn't be surprised to see some different people in the bottom 3 this week. Maybe Elliot, Mandisa or Taylor. I hope Ace or Bucky goes.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I'll wager it will be a guy voted off this week, just because they seem to like to keep the guy/girl number balance going as long as possible.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I found it to be THE dullest American Idol ever.
Posted by MandyM (Member # 8375) on :
I was surprised at Ace's performance as well but I still think he is the weakest performer in the bunch. There are just better singers this year. I think the worst performance of the night was Elliot, who I usually like just fine. He looked like a deer in teh headlights and kinda sang like one too. My favorite was Bucky amazingly enough. I don't usually like him but I liked his song choice and his voice did sound better.
Bottom three prediction: Ace, Elliot, and either Paris or Mandisa, both of whom I love (they just can't pick Bucky and Kellie in their own genre!)
Going home: Ace
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
The other night I came up with my prediction for who's getting voted off when. I'm going to record it here so my memory doesn't conviently forget my predictions when I'm wrong In order:
Ace, Bucky, Elliot, Katharine, Paris, Taylor *cry*, Mandisa, Kelli, Chris.
Why? In short, Ace and Bucky are the weakest vocally, Elliot is the weakest in terms of performance. I don't think Katharine can keep making consistently good song choices; same with Paris. The vocal fans (eg. lovers of Elliot/Kath/Paris) will switch to Mandisa, country to Kelli, and the rest will go with Chris as he's a safer bet and better performer than Taylor. The final 3 I'm less sure of, but I really think we underestimate the amount of Kelli fans.
Oh, www.dialidol.com predicts that Mandisa and Elliott, by a large margin, will be getting voted off/bottom 3.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Anyone think that next week's theme of Queen songs has got to be the silliest of any they've chosen so far? Yep, anything by Queen. We needed another take on Bohemian Rhapsody on AI? Should be veeeery interesting.
Posted by MandyM (Member # 8375) on :
That is a weird theme. I don't even know that many popular Queen songs. Maybe they are about to release a greatest hits or something and they need the younger generation to know who they are more.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Wow, Queen! Really?
I think that will be really cool.
I have always loved Queen. They have some neat songs that were never made popular, though I am sure they were more popular in England.
I would laugh my very own fat behind off if Mandisa sang "Fat-bottomed Girls." I think she has the sense of humor for it, and and certainly the voice to pull off any of those songs.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Queen is pretty popular with teens and college students right now (at least my friends). Now I"m trying to pick a Queen song for each of them. Fat Bottomed Girls would be good for Mandisa, and someone has to do Bicycle Race, but I'm not sure who.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
The Queen theme was on Idol News on their website. Prince is rumored to be featured on one of the upcoming episodes too.
Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
Believe it or not, Fat Bottomed Girls translates quite well to a country/bluegrass song, so even the country people could do that.
--ApostleRadio
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Ahhhhh! Just spilled red wine on the new keyboard!
That said, the more I think about it, the better I like the Queen theme.
AR, I could totally hear FBG as a blugrass song! Have you heard Del McCoury do Richard Thmposon's Vincent Black Lightning? it is a trip!
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
quote:I found it to be THE dullest American Idol ever.
I totally agree with you. I don't like country in the first place, and almost everyone did a slower more ballad-like song...I was SO BORED.
I'm anxious to find out who's leaving! *bites nails*
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Am I the only one who thinks that Bucky has pretty consistently sucked? His voice always sounds forced; it makes my throat hurt just hearing it. He seems to think that putting stress on whatever he's singing is the same as putting emotion into it. And he's been told three times in two weeks to improve his enunciation. I hope he goes home soon.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I agree, Jon Boy. I find Simon's assessments to be spot on, and I don;t even think he is all that rude anymore(comparatively!) Also, I am finding the voting to go as it should. So far. I think the Queen theme will be really interesting. Some of theor songs are rock operas, some are, as Apostle Radio said,countyesque, some are hard rock, some are even heavy metal. I think it will be all about the song choice next week.
As for country music, I like some of it. I agreed with Simon that the song choices were horrendous. There is such a HUGE range to "country music," unless they said it could only be a specific category. I was generally disappointed. Not one performance was remarkable.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
Ditto!! I don't like Bucky at all!
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Jon Boy: I definitely agree. Last night, Bucky did well but it was country-themed. He actually enunciated, for once. With everything else, he is either hopeless or just plain silly.
Queen is OK, but 8 of their songs could get annoying (or funny, we shall see). I liked the decade-themed weeks because most of the singers were able to pick songs which they felt comfortable with. I guess Queen disadvantages everyone?
Elizabeth: I know little about country and you seem to be a fan. How do Kelli and Bucky hold up in the genre?
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I'm not a country fan but I've heard enough of it, and I'll say I didn't think Kellie was bad, but I couldn't stand Bucky, actually I thought he was worse than normal.
And I don't think Queen will put everyone at a disadvantage, I think it'll show how they can do cover's, which the Stevie Wonder night did, but his music is more in one area than Queen's.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Kristen: I am a "country" fan in the broadest terms. We went through this on the country music thread. I ten not to like most of the modern country. I like the Willie Nelson kind of country, the Kenny Rogers kind. The glitzy new stuff is not so much my thing. I missed Kelli, but I thought Bucky sounded "at home"
breyercic, Queen's music is very diverse, in a weird way. Unless you have heard the songs on their abums, it would be hard to believe.
I love them.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I've listened to one album at a friend's house, and know most of the famous stuff by heart.
Also I pretty much like the same type of country as Liz, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, a few others. Actually let's just go with I like music from the 60s and 70s, that's the easiest discription.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
You know, for all everyone hates Kelli because she's ditzy. She's probably my favorite because she's ditzy. She just says whatever comes into her head and doesn't care what she sounds like, she's just herself.
I think a lot of people think that the only reason a girl acts ditzy is because she thinks people will like her better for it. Leaving aside the fact that that's obviously not true, sometimes it's just fun to say whatever you want and not worry about impressing other people.
I totally relate to Kelli.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
And not just because I predicted her to stay to the finals! I really enjoyed her singing.
But www.dialidol.com did get it right.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I really thought it would be the group with Ace and then Katherine would go home.
Mandisa wow.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOT HER!
SEE! That's the very reason why I don't like WATCHING the eliminations. She's one of my favourites... arrrrrrrrrrrg! Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Oh, dear. Glad I was watching Lost. Still, in a way, she is too good for American Idol. I know that sounds like a copout, but...
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I agree Liz, she's a different kind of star. She'll still make it.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Wasn't it so sad that she (and the others) had to sing their losing song for the final time?
With Mandisa, I especially noticed it. She should have gone out with one of her 'diva' songs, on a high note (literally har har).
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Wow, I expected her to win.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I expected her to be top 5. Are any of you voting? I never voted for her, figuring I didn't need to.
She'll do well in any case. She got her start and is nationally known now. She could record a gospel album immediately and sell decently.
Posted by dab (Member # 7847) on :
well, now that Mandisa is gone I think that Katherine will go to at least final 3... she is the best vocalist left in the competition, so unless she blows it she should steal nearly all of Mandisa's votes. Next week I predict Bucky will go... Queen songs are hard to sing lightly which is when he sounds good... but when he has to sing out he always goes sharp... I think it will take a lot to keep him in this next week. -dab
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
So depressing! But I agree with all that Mandisa has a great career ahead of her anyway.
I love Catherine! I swear I like her more each week. She is quickly becoming one of my favorites. It really surprised me that Ace wasn't in the bottom three, though. I'm glad he's still around, but I wonder how much longer he'll last.
And I disagree about Kellie. I really think she's not all that talented. I can hardly handle listening to her voice (granted I don't like country, but there are plenty of country singers that I can tolerate). Plus, did anyone else notice her freaky eyebrow aerobics on Tuesday? *shudder*
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
I can't stand Ace, but I must admit that he has one of the most fitting voices to attempt a Queen song.
He may actually do a good job on a song like "Somebody to Love" or "Killer Queen".
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Mandisa already has a lot of success. She tours with some big Christian group that does speakings and conferences - maybe it's Beth Moore? Not sure, but at any rate, she was already a professional performer before this and she'll continue to do well.
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
blacwolve writes:
"You know, for all everyone hates Kelli because she's ditzy. She's probably my favorite because she's ditzy. She just says whatever comes into her head and doesn't care what she sounds like, she's just herself."
My wife believes that this isn't really herself or rather that it's part of her personality, but that doing this is a calculate, perhaps even coached, effort on her part.
-------- Mandisa has already had a lot of success and will continue to do well, but this also means that we won't be able to see her on national broadcast TV anymore.
Not that I have cause to complain. I don't watch it every week (and I certainly skipped last Tuesday's show -- country ain't my thing) and I think the only time I even attempted to vote was one time for Fantasia, but I didn't get through on the first try and lost interest and quit.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
There is a sacred steel band called The Campbell Brothers. I could see Mandisa doing music like theirs, which is sort of gospel-rock. http://www.campbellbrothers.com/
The woman(a cousin to the brothers) has a strong voice like Mandisa's, and her joy shines through the same way.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
quote:Originally posted by Zalmoxis: blacwolve writes:
My wife believes that this isn't really herself or rather that it's part of her personality, but that doing this is a calculate, perhaps even coached, effort on her part.
I hear this all the time, about me, about friends of mine. I don't really believe it's any more true for Kelli than it is for us.
Posted by Soara (Member # 6729) on :
It won't be the same without Mandisa. Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
It wont.. What if Taylor and Christ ar next? *Weep*
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
I could do without Chris and Ace. Neither have impressed me in the last 2 weeks or so.
I was AMAZED that Paris was in the bottom 3 this week. I think Elliot or Bucky are next to go unless someone else just sounds really really bad doing Queen.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Did you notice how Paris just skipped back to the 'safe' people without even hugging or giving supportive looks to Mandisa or Elliot? I'm not saying she's a bad person--just sometimes acts her age
Syn: Taylor can't go! Don't even bring up the possibility. Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Maybe I don't really like Kellie because she acts too much like me Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
As long as they keep Katherine McPhee, I'll continue to be happy.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
So, since there are evidently Queen fans on Hatrack, what songs would you choose for the remaining 8? What do you want to hear them sing?
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
quote: So, since there are evidently Queen fans on Hatrack, what songs would you choose for the remaining 8? What do you want to hear them sing?
Ace sing "Killer Queen" or "Somebody to Love" Katherine - "Save Me" Taylor - "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" Elliot - "Pressure" Bucky - "We Will Rock You" Kellie - "Play The Game" Paris - "Don't Stop Me Now" Chris - "We Are The Champions"
Posted by lem (Member # 6914) on :
The highlight of American Idol, that is not meant to be, would have been if Mandisa did not get voted off and sang "Flat Bottom Girls."
I think she could have pulled it off flawlessly and non-offensively, and EVERYONE would have loved it.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I still want someone to do Bicycle Race.
Posted by lem (Member # 6914) on :
Ahh crapola...I just looked up the lyrics and it is "Fat" bottom girls. I always thought it was "flat." *mumbles off by himself* Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
From listening to the snippets on Amazon.com...I'm not a Queen fan, so that's the best I can do:
Bucky: I Want It All Paris: Don't Stop Me Now Ace: Somebody to Love Chris: Stone Cold Crazy Taylor: Killer Queen Kellie: The Show Must Go On Katherine: Who Wants To Live Forever Elliott: You're My Best Friend
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Here's a list of the ones that "people my age" know, meaning what might be more popular in the 16-21 bracket which Idol has several of.
Bohemian Rhapsody We Will rock You We Are the Champions Fat Bottomed Girls and Bicycle Race (ok maybe that's just me)
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I thought Fat Bottomed Girls was Cake...
Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
Unless you have a Cake cover of Fat Bottomed Girls, I think that is blasphemy against Cake. Just think about the ranges! John (however you spell his last name) is a Bass, while Freddy Mercury is a ridiculous Tenor. It's just not logical.
--ApostleRadio
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I certainly don't know enough about either group to know what ranges the lead singers are...
I just recall being told it was Cake. And I mean, wasn't Queen gay? Or am I just totally confused? I think I'll look them up on Wikipedia.
Edit: I just read about Queen on Wikipedia (the CAKE article is tiny). Someone just told me they were gay, and I assume whoever told me just assumed that because the lead singer died of AIDs. Which makes me rather angry, actually. Now I'm going to go to a friend's apartment and listen to some Queen and CAKE songs.
[ April 08, 2006, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: blacwolve ]
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I don't think that's the only reason, as I've heard more than once that several people (other than Freddie Mercury) in Queen were gay. And I'm sure i've had this discussion with your brother. Probably after some discussion of Bicycle Race.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I really want Taylor to do "Fat Bottom Girls. I think it would fit his style and would like to see him do it.
I hope no one does "Bohemian Rhapsody" I think that song has been way over played.
I figure one of the country duo will do "crazy little thing called love."
Maybe Chris could bring something new to "We will rock you" /"we are the champions"
Elliot could do a decent "you're my best friend"
I bet Bucky does "Another one bites the dust"
I have no idea what Paris will do, but one of the girls will do "someone to love"
Anyway it should be a more interesting show than last weeks. If not then the show should be heading for a down turn in the ratings. At least the past two years they have figured out they need to incorporate different kinds of music or the show really will hurt.
I believe it was common knowledge that Feddie Mercury was at least Bi-sexual, I can't speak for the rest of the band. I imagine they don't care what we think.
[ April 08, 2006, 11:28 PM: Message edited by: SC Carver ]
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Well...I'm disappointed in their song choices, but I guess it'll still be entertaining...
Choosing Bohemian Rhapsody would be a mistake for any of them, and I doubt the country girl can pull it off.
--ApostleRadio
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Shortening Bohemian Rhapsody really worries me, beyond who is doing it.
Also no one is doing We Are The Champions! What?
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Oh man, I didn't want *anyone* to do Bohemian Rhapsody, and the person who's doing it is nutso. They can't possibly do as good a job as Constantine did last year. He owned it, IMO. It was one of my favorites from last season.
Thanks for that link, HumanTarget! I didn't know they were releasing song choices prior to performance.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I don't know about Chris's choice, If you pick an unknown song then you have to really grab everyone's attention. They will loose interest real fast if they don't know the song.
Something tells me this may be the last week for Kelli with that song choice.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
quote:Originally posted by TheHumanTarget: Well...I'm disappointed in their song choices, but I guess it'll still be entertaining...
Kellie is, what, wanting to go home this week? No good can come of that choice at all.
On the other hand, I'm thinking that Bucky probably chose well. Of all of Queen's songs that I know, that's the one I think he can do best at. Anyway, I'm glad someone is doing that one.
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
I stand by my original picks. Those are the songs they should have sung. These song choices are just...bleh...
Posted by dab (Member # 7847) on :
i take back my earlier prediction about bucky... ACE sucked and is going home.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I thought Elliot did the best performance tonight.
In general, though, I thought it was boring. I am thinking I am just "over" American Idol.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I'm on my way to vote for Ace.
I really couldn't stand Taylor's performance at all. Ack.
Kellie surprised me.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
I hated Ace's perfomance and loved Taylor's. To each his own I guess.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Does anyone have the numbers, apparently I didn't write it down.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
I thought Taylor took it tonight. Absolutely awesome. Most of the rest were pretty unimpressive.
I felt bad for Kellie. It seemed like everyone was out to sabotage her. The hair, makeup and wardrobe people covered over everything that was cute and unique about her and made her look like a skanky white trash meth-head. The band didn't sound very good, and whoever was mixing the sound must be playing the boards by sense of smell. She'd have sounded better singing unamplified on the tarmac at Heathrow. I have no idea whether she did a good job tonight, but if she gets booted she'd better be ready to slash some tires in the parking lot after the show is over.
And was it just me, or did those dudes from Queen win the A-Hole of the Year award?
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Breyer: Bucky 1, Ace 2, Kelli 3, Chris 4, Katharine 5, Taylor 6, Elliot 7, Paris 8 (I think).
Elizabeth: It has not been up to par lately! I agree. I think it is because they are working with bands and not decades. Less freedom of choice.
Baron:
I actually liked Ace's performance. Bucky was forgetable. Kelli was just plain awful, I almost felt bad for her. Chris was OK. Katharine was terrible. Taylor was amazing! Elliot was great. Paris was really good as well.
Oh and Ryan's quip about one of them being drunk tonight? *cough cough Paula* Hilarious.
Even though we all know how *wonderful* I am at guessing, here is my bottom 3 predictions (haven't looked at dialidol.com yet):
Katharine, Bucky, and Ace. Good-bye to: Katharine or Bucky.
Posted by Soara (Member # 6729) on :
quote: And was it just me, or did those dudes from Queen win the A-Hole of the Year award?
Yes, they did.
"No, no, I'm not doing that arrangement, not on my song!"
Posted by gnixing (Member # 768) on :
I thought Kellie was awesome tonight. Makeup and everything, it was perfect for that song. In fact, starting with Kellie, the rest of the night was great. Bucky and Ace were the only ones that sucked. I didn't like the song Chris did, but he did it well.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
Whatever Paris was wearing...
I think it's one of the ugliest things I've ever seen in my life. I'm still trying to burn it from my mind. How could anyone possibly think that was a good idea?
Posted by gnixing (Member # 768) on :
That's the only thing I didn't like about Paris's performance this week - her appearance.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I'm not speaking of anything else as it was correct last week and I don't want to spoil anything in any way, but to those who look: I don't think their performances were the worst, but I can see why there is no reason to be inspired to vote for them.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I really liked last night's show, definitely moreso than the past couple of weeks.
Quick impressions:
Bucky was far better than I thought he would be. I don't know the song that well, so I don't have any basis of comparison, but I thought his diction was good and he was entertaining.
Ace really surprised me. He was better than he's been in weeks, especially with a very different arrangement than we're used to hearing. I really liked it the first time I saw his performance, and again this morning when I pulled it up on DVR. I was wowed the first time, and confirmed it on second viewing. Maybe it's the increase in confidence level. He just seemed more comfortable.
Kellie was also surprising. I mean, I thought it was suicide, but it was really pretty good. I think what I got most out of it was for the first time, I actually do think she's got a better voice than Carrie. I've heard other people say that, but didn't agree until last night. I kinda compare the performance against Carrie's performance last season of that Joan Jett song. Where Carrie struggles on low notes, Kellie rolls right through them, smooth as silk. I liked her jacket, but thought the jeans needed to be boot cut. The boots were just silly but would have looked good with long boot cut jeans.
Chris...lord, I *hated* Chris's performance. I agree 100% with what Simon said, but would go further to say that it was self-absorbed, not self indulgent. Like the audience really doesn't matter anymore. It would have been fine if this is the only week he'd done something like this, but it's not. For the first time, I'm really hoping he goes home this week.
Elliot was amazing. I didn't love it the first time I watched it...largely because I kept thinking throughout that I wish it were Mandisa singing the song. Which wasn't really fair to Elliot. Listening again this morning over breakfast, I think he was the best of the night, by far. I think he's really worked on his look, too. I thought he had more personality than he's had in previous weeks.
Katharine was another I didn't love the first time I saw her performance. But I really liked it on the second viewing. I was left wondering how she'd do on a Sarah Brightman song. Didn't love the outfit, but didn't hate it either.
Taylor was entertaining. Made me smile. I wasn't wowed like with Ace's performance, probably because expectations of Taylor are far higher.
And last, Paris. Her outfit was awful. But it showed she is, above all, a performer. The whole thing. She doesn't just have a fab voice...she takes her short, slightly pudgy material to work with and pounds it out to fit whatever she's singing.
So I have no actual predictions for this week, but am hoping that Chris is the one going home.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I've thought about it, and I think Chris should have done "Another One Bites The Dust" He wasn't bad, but his song wasn't very good, though I'd say the reason Queen doesn't do is because it was the last album before Freddie died.
I watched it again too, and I still don't like Taylor's performance, it was like Elvis doing Queen.
Ace wasn't that good, I admit it, but I still voted for him because I don't want him off the show. And I can understand why the guys from Queen wouldn't want him altering their song in the way he was about to, he wanted "a military feeling" to it, huh?
I didn't see Constantine do Bohemian Rhapsody but that's a hard song, and Kellie picking it was brave. I thought it was ok, but lacked something probably because the song was cut into pieces.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I meant to put this in my earlier post, but forgot: Am I the only one who thinks the band is being mixed much too loud sometimes? I hate when I can't hear the performer because the band is being mixed so loudly.
Breyer, I think that's the thing that bugged me the most about Chris's performance. Not that it was too hard or alternative, but that he could have picked a recognizable song and brought that flavor to it and chose not to. He's off doing his own thing, picking a song no one except a real Queen fan is likely to have ever heard. I find that very irritating...like he couldn't care any less about whether I, not into alt or hard rock or Queen, am at all entertained. If anything, I am disliking his genre of music more, not less, and to me, that bespeaks a certain level of failure on his part as an entertainer.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
jeniwren, are you a Queen fan? Your take on the show was very...positive. Compared to how I felt about it at least.
I thought everyone was pretty mediocre and only about 5 of them picked a good song for their voices. (Taylor, Elliot, Paris, Katherine, and Bucky.) The rest of them were not pleasant, and a few of them were embarrassingly bad. Kellie and Ace made me cringe especially, and not because they didn't sing ok, but because the songs sounded so ridiculous being sung by them.
Simon was right about Chris. I think Chris was not only on the wrong song last night, but also really flat, not resonant, and unpleasant to watch and listen to. What's UP with all the eyeliner?
My picks for the bottom 3 this week are Ace, Kellie, and ... Taylor? Like I said, they were all relatively mediocre.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Narnia, nope, I'm not a Queen fan. Shows, doesn't it? I'd heard a number of the songs before, but don't have any great love of any of them, except maybe the one from Highlander.
I've been reading some of the reviews of last night's performances, and it appears I'm definitely in the minority opinion on Ace's performance. Oh well. I was entertained.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
quote:I watched it again too, and I still don't like Taylor's performance, it was like Elvis doing Queen.
My boyfriend said the exact same thing, but he loved the performance!
Right now, I'm pretty apathetic about who wins. Taylor is a character, but I'm not unequivocally 'Soul Patrol'. Last year, I was 100% Bo Bice from the start and the first season (I didn't watch 2 and 3) I was 100% Kelly from the first time I saw her.
EDIT: Jeniwren, I liked Ace too! I thought it was better than Queen (but there's my bias).
And I found out that the song Katharine switched to was the one Mandisa had picked out. Interesting...but I couldn't see it working for Mandisa either.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
I thought Kellie was atrocious. I cringed through her entire performance, and not just because she looked like a member of Kiss minus the face paint. However, I think Ace was the worst last night. Simon's "We Will Rock You to Sleep" comment was pretty accurate, I felt. He just doesn't have the voice for a song like that.
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
quote: Jeniwren, I liked Ace too! I thought it was better than Queen (but there's my bias).
How in the world could you think this? Have you heard the original? Ace butchered a classic and should be sent home tonight for his blasphemy.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I didn't know that Mandisa had originally selected Who Wants To Live Forever, though in retrospect, I could see her attraction to it. She probably would have done it justice.
Sorry THT....it was different from the original enough that I liked what he did with it. Yeah, it's not the primal bass beater Queen did, but I thought it showed more of Ace's creativity than we've previously seen. It was a groovin' rock rather than a bodyslammin' rock. I liked it. Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
quote: It was a groovin' rock rather than a bodyslammin' rock
That's just the thing about his rendition, it was a groovin styled song that ignored the meaning of the lyrics...it's not supposed to be poppy it's supposed to be powerful and angry.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
THT: Hehe, yes I have heard the original, but do realize that it has permanent connotations of me being bored at sports games and pep rallies.
I also just don't like Mercury's voice.
However, if Ace goes home, I'm not going to be surprised or disappointed. I assume a lot of bonifed Queen fans like you probably felt the same so you may get your wish.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
quote:I also just don't like Mercury's voice.
Then there's no hope for you. *dies* ( )
I found it highly amusing that the actual guys from Queen couldn't really say many positive things about the singers. I love how they flat out refused to perform Rock you the way Ace suggested and I love how they described Kellie as 'brave' and Katherine as 'bouncy.' Not exactly good recommendations. The only person who received bonafide love from them was Paris....and she's been my favorite since the auditions, so I was happy.
I wish Katherine had been in better voice last night. Simon was dead on when he said "You almost had a moment" because the song really was perfect for her. She just sounded tired and didn't soar where she was supposed to soar. I hope she still gets lots of votes because she's my 2nd favorite. (Elliot is slowly wending his way into my 3rd favorite slot now that Mandisa is gone. I was pleasantly surprised by him last night.)
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Narnia, I got the impression that the guys from Queen had to be reined in so they would be as positive as they were. It actually looked painful for them as they were trying to think of something to say for Ace's intro. They had compliments for Taylor as well, if I remember right. But you're right, they had lovin' for Paris.
I agree with you about Katherine as well...as she was hitting the money notes, it sounded more like yelling. But aside from those brief moments, it was lovely, especially the beginning. I am starting to think she could be a contender... but right now, I'm thinking the best she'll do is third.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I hope not. I just don't dig that Celine/Barbara screamy screechy stuff. Give me warm and soulful, man. That's the sort of singing I dig. None of that wailing and stuff. Bleah. Taylor is so cool. He's my boy. And Chris was not so bad, but not bring down the HOWSE good... Elliot is smooth. I like Smooth. Paris is energic and rather cute. But I couldn't vote because the numbers were busy so I just voted for one person Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Yeah they liked Taylor, and he went and switched songs.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
I am a Queen fan, but I agree with jeniwren's opinion of Ace's performance. I thought it was daring, interesting, and actually quite enjoyable. I don't quite understand all the harsh reviews, and it bothers me how much pull the judges' opinions have. I thought Kelly's performance, on the other hand, was almost unbearable. To each his own, I suppose.
My prediction: Bottom three will be Ace, Bucky, and Elliot, with *hopefully* Bucky going home.
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
Kelly seems... really nervous? edgy? jumpy? I'm not sure what word describes it.
--j_k
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I can't run my comp dvd right now to watch the rest of Scarface, but I don't think Ace's voice is powerful enough to sing this song...
But he is rather cute... In a scruggy rock star kinda way.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Who was voted off? It's been over half an hour, but I didn't watch it.
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
Spoilers for those of you who haven't seen it yet...(thanks Kristen)
Bucky, which I am so glad about.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Ok, me too.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Those of y'all from the West Coast, don't read any further....
Breyer: Bucky, Elliott, and Ace were in the bottom 3 and Bucky got voted off. It's too bad because I was beginning to like him, but then again, it was inevitable.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
I was surprised to see Bucky go. I was not a fan at all for a bunch of weeks but the last few I actually enjoyed. I thought that Ace was a sure thing to go. Not surprised by the bottom three though and I didn't think Bucky would last that much longer. Did anyone hear what the theme is for next week?
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
So if Queen wouldn't allow any variations from the album versions of their songs to be sung last night, how in the heck did the producers ever get permission to do that cheesy "Up With People" medley at the beginning of the show?
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by hansenj: My prediction: Bottom three will be Ace, Bucky, and Elliot, with *hopefully* Bucky going home.
Our prayers have been answered! Seriously, I've been waiting for Bucky to go home for weeks now.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Theresa: Great American Songbook. Finally, a theme I am excited about!
Also, I may be good with languages and accents, but I don't think I have understood a single word Bucky has said the entire fifth season.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
Thanks Kristen! Lots of possibilities for the contestants to choose from next week then. I'll be interested to see if the top few get shaken up a bit in the coming weeks.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I think that's a just result. He made it farther than I would have thought possible.
I'll be very surprised if Ace survives another week.
Anyone else think the show was about half an hour too long? Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
Yeah, well. I didn't have any trouble understanding Bucky. And I'm sorry he's gone. I don't think he should have made it that much farther in the competition, but Ace did much worse than he did last night, so Simon was right...it should have been Ace gone tonight.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
This is the first time I've been right on in my prediction. I have to admit, though, that I half expected "Ace Young" to come out of Ryan's mouth when he annouced who was going home. I'm so glad Bucky left before Ace. He may not last another week, but he made it pretty dang far considering his weaker performances and the way the judges have been treating him.
quote:Anyone else think the show was about half an hour too long? [Smile]
*raises hand* What, was FOX at a loss for material today? We didn't even get to see a performance by Queen!
Posted by Landy Braine (Member # 9014) on :
Ace should have been gone before the top 12...I've been over him and his "stare lovingly into your eyes" look for some time now. I'll miss Bucky.
Posted by dab (Member # 7847) on :
yeah... although bucky is hit and miss, he is fun. When Ace sings I cant decide if i want to puke or fall asleep from boredom. good news is that unless somebody else blows it, he will be gone next week because with "great american songbook" he is sure to pick a snoozer. I think that the peter brady looking kid that got kicked off before top 12 should have been in Aces spot all along.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
Ace should have gone a long time ago, but he and Bucky are definately the worst so either one leaving is good.
I have to admit the show the last few weeks has been rather boring. This top 12 showed so much promise. It was a good mix of styles. A true hard rocker, a couple of country people, a couple diva's and Taylor, a really fun throw back to Joe Cocker. Hell I even looked forward to seeing Kevin even if it was just for a good laugh. But as the weeks have gone by no one has stepped up to show any true superstar quality. I think this is why Simon has been giving less and less feedback. There isn’t much to say. No one is truly blowing it out. Chris and Mandisa had a couple of performances where you thought wow that was really great, I like to here them do the entire song, but they both had bad and boring weeks. And the good ones were a few weeks ago.
Chris had lots of potenial and will probably do fine once he gets back in a band, but he keeps picking bad songs. He is trying soo hard to maintain his intergity that he has missed some really good oportunities to blow everyone away. (this week and the week with songs from this decade) . If Chris had done “We Will Rock You” or “We are the Champions” everyone would have been talking about what a great job he had done. I wonder how they get to pick the songs. Is it first one to claim a song gets it or is there some order? Maybe Ace had first choice and Chris didn’t have the chance to do “We will rock you”. Taylor was going to do “We are the champions” and changed his mind.
Taylor was a bit like Queen doing Elvis, but I aways thought that was what that song was anyway. Freddies tribute to Elvis.
Posted by opiejudy (Member # 9301) on :
I like Ace, no one really stands out for me this year, I havent even voted. I always miss the results show because of Veronica MArs anyway.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
But now Veronica Mars is on Tuesday, so no more conflict. Of course, now it conflicts with House, which I was just getting to like, but in terms of ratings it's a heck of a lot better than being opposite American Idol.
Of course, I'm not going to start watching the results show anyway, because honestly, why do they need a whole hour for the results anyway? All I want to know is who left, not a whole lot of filler.
Am I the only person who can't stand Elliot? He has a good voice, but he has like, negative stage presence. This guy as a pop star? You have to be kidding me.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
The last several weeks the results show was a half hour and had very little filler, I didn't watch last night.
I don't think Elliot should win, but he's not that bad.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
The completely shameless Ford product placements are the worst, though.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
I'm sad Bucky went because it's showing me that people are starting to vote for who they've already decided on instead of voting for the best performances of the week. Bucky's wasn't close to being in one of the bottom 3 performances this week. (I actually voted for both he and Elliot!) It's all subjective I suppose, but I was starting to like him too.
Please deliver us from Ace and Kellie SOON!
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Speaking of Kellie, I'm really starting to wonder if she's playing up her dumbness. Up until the other night I assumed she simply was that dumb, but her "I don't have an accent!" comment really made me wonder. There are a lot of people who think that they have no accent, but Southerners (or rather, Southerners who have strong accents as she does) generally aren't among them.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I figured she was kidding. Kellie strikes me as one with a forward, silly sense of humor. I think she genuinely likes Simon and enjoys teasing him.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
quote:The completely shameless Ford product placements are the worst, though.
Then I suppose you are, by now, completely immune to the giant red coke cups the 3 of them constantly sip out of? But seriously, if you think about it, I think the product placement extends further than that with the 'performer of the week'. Recall that they all have cds coming out in the immediate future--this isn't merely the band/singer's generosity prompting them to volunteer to be on Idol.
Narnia: Your point about Bucky makes me wonder. Yes, I agree his performance was FAR from the worst, but on the other hand, Mandisa was the strongest singer for all the weeks but 2, and still got voted off Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kristen: Then I suppose you are, by now, completely immune to the giant red coke cups the 3 of them constantly sip out of? But seriously, if you think about it, I think the product placement extends further than that with the 'performer of the week'. Recall that they all have cds coming out in the immediate future--this isn't merely the band/singer's generosity prompting them to volunteer to be on Idol.
The giant red Coke cups are a little less in-your-face than the Ford music videos. If the contestants were all singing and dancing around giant Coke cups or around other people's forthcoming albums, then I'd be more annoyed at those, too.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Jon Boy: The commericals are more than a tad irritating (and not particularly cute) but, to me, the Cokes are particularly insiduous BECAUSE they are less obvious and more subliminal.
I guess I just like my daily dose of product placement to be where I can see it. Doesn't mean I like it, but what can ya do? Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Is it bad for me to think that Rod Stewart doesn't have the sort of voice I like for American Standards? But he does sound like he likes singing them though... I'm just fixated on Billie, Ella, Nat.
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
I have to say that Chris did an amazing job. I don't usually watch, but it was incredible. Plus, I love that song, so it just made me happy. Yay!
Edit: I said "amazing" twice. I don't like redundancy, redundancy.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Chris was fantastic. Katherine was better than normal. Paris was herself. The rest were so so.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Loved Taylor, Chris was cool, Elliot too, didn't much like Katherine, Kelly was... meh. Paris was just great...
Posted by sarcare (Member # 8736) on :
I really didn't like Kellie or Ace, they were both very bad. Chris and Katherine were very good as was Paris.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
LOVED the theme. Loved all the songs. I do agree Syn, I can't imagine Rod singing that sort of music.
My run-down:
Chris: Excellent job. Showed off his voice. Paris: I love that kind of music and I thought she did a phenomenal job. Taylor: Great voice and I do like his antics. Enjoyable performance. Elliott: At this point I was like wow, every week should be an American Standards Week! Kelli: And then I was brought back to reality. To her credit, she didn't pretend she did a good job. Ace: Nowhere near the others, but better than Kelli. Katharine: She was my personal favorite in terms of performance.
Going home: Ace Bottom Three: Ace...no idea, Elliott?
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
I thought Ace's performance was his best in several weeks (which ain't saying much), but I think he'll still be in the bottom three. I think Kellie's going home. She was right—she butchered it.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
I think that Kellie was the worst performer but I think previous likeability will keep her in. My guess is Ace is going home and that Kellie and Elliot will join him in the bottom three. I personally loved Katharine and Taylor this week. I also thought Chris did a good job choosing something different and still sounding good. I don't really get into Elliot personality wise but he sounded ok. I missed Paris. Didn't like Kellie and Ace.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
quote:My guess is Ace is going home and that Kellie and Elliot will join him in the bottom three.
This is exactly what I was going to say. Although, if I had it my way, Kellie would be the one leaving.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
Oh, and I couldn't STAND Ace's ponytail!!!!! (Is that enough exclamation points to emphasize how much I was repulsed by it? )
*vomit*
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
I also think Ace, Elliott, and Kellie will be in the bottom three. However, I think it's Kellie who will be going home.
On the other hand, this was the first week I've really liked one of Chris's performances, Katherine was good, but I still don't much like her, and Taylor was fine once he got into his song.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Theresa: We are pretty much of the same opinion!
Jon Boy and Hansen: I agree with your assessments 100%, but I fear that Kelli is actually likeable enough and has had enough success in the past that she will make it through to next week. I hope you're right: I have nothing against her, I just prefer other singers and genres.
www.dialidol.com predicts a clear loser this week. I don't feel that it is impossible, although their bottom 3-4 surprises me.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
You know, I've heard all the judges be quite harsh before, but Kelly's performance last night was the first time I'd ever heard Ryan admit that someone sucked it up.
"Well, you nailed it in rehersal."
Ouch!
Also, I guess I'm in the minority, but I didn't think Chris' performance was as legendary as most people. It certainly wasn't bad (in that there weren't any obvious flaws in pitch or timing), but other than the novelty of hearing him sing a ballad I can't think of a single thing that elevated it from the level of boring, mediocre and unimpressive. If he'd sang like that in his first audition, I have a hard time believing he'd have even made it to Hollywood.
Nevertheless, as a whole this was a much, much much (did I say much?) better week for everyone than the last couple. Relatively good show for all of them.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Chris was the best white boy I've heard sing that song.
Ace's ponytail thing reminded me of John Travolta in I think Pulp Fiction *I haven't actually seen it).
Posted by Kent (Member # 7850) on :
I miss Mandisa so much right now. I truly hope Ace or Kelli go home tonight.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
What impressed me about Chris' performance was that it showed that he actually has quite a good voice and can vary his style. If I randomly turned on American Idol and saw him sing last night, I probably wouldn't find it compelling. But, knowing Chris' background, it was really interesting to watch.
Also, if Paris said that her first album would be mostly in the style of last night, I wouldn't vote for anyone else.
Ace's ponytailed look reminded me of my ex-boyfriend. Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I thought last night was so good. It was a pleasure to watch and I went to bed smiling thinking about it.
My two Wows of the night were the bread to the sandwich, Chris and Katharine. Through Chris's performance, my attention was fixed and the song seemed much too short. I thought "Ahh, here's the man who sang to his children when they were babies." Sentimental, yes, but lovely. It was almost as good as Bo Bice's acapella performance last season. That same sort of wow factor on a smaller scale.
Paris kept that positive vibe going doing what she's best at. I would buy an album of her singing that sort of music.
I was a little afraid about 30 seconds into Taylor's performance because it was just...well, it was good, it just didn't have much punch, and after Chris and Paris, he was boring by comparison. Then the last half of the song, it was like he went "you didn't think this was it, did you?" and pulled out all the stops. I loved it.
Elliot shouldn't have bored me, but he did. I think Simon was right...that the night was going to come down to personality. And I don't think he showed enough of it there. Of course he sounded great, but so did everyone else up til that point. I liked his fashion choice. The jeans with the tuxedo top was funky chic.
Kellie knew she was awful the moment she finished singing and went to stand on her mark. She got votes for knowing it was bad and admiting as much. I didn't actually think it was awful, but Lord it was boring. And halfway through, she seemed to forget the melody. I thought briefly that it was almost like someone else had picked her song and she didn't know what to do with it at all.
Figuring that Ace had almost no chance to survive this week, I really didn't expect a lot out of his performance. His hair was very distracting. I kept trying to see if it was a bun or a ponytail. It looked like a bun, which was really bugging me. I only remember one section of the song he sang, and it was very impressive...he slipped from falsetto into his normal range like melted butter. I liked that part a lot. But the hair thing was so distracting that I really don't know how well he sang other than that moment. I still think he has no chance. The others are all so much better (with the possible exception of Kellie, who will IMO continue on in the contest for other reasons than singing ability) that he is fully outshown.
And lastly, Katharine. Holy smokes woman. I thought she was really smart to have a selection of songs to choose from when she saw Rod Stewart. I think she would have done almost anything in this theme well, but the performance she gave was wonderful. Polished. Lovely.
My bottom three: Kellie, Elliot and Ace, with Ace saying goodbye.
Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :
Taylor's performance was awesome. I remember it starting off slow, but I sensed that "nah, this is goin' somewhere. He's just playing with us."
Good times.
Posted by dab (Member # 7847) on :
my bottom 3... Ace, Paris and Kellie... although paris was good... she had IMO the best song of the night... and it was just ok for me.... If you noticed... Kathrine brought the same song in for her "selections" and the snippit that they showed of that was much better than Paris... I hate to say it, but i was a little glad that Kellie screwed it up... because although I dont want to see her go yet... I also dont want her to make it to the final 3, and I think that she probably will because of her fanbase... but if she keeps messing things up then maybe she wont... I sort of feel the same way about Taylor... he is fun but I just dont think his voice is that good.
Is it just me or does Rod Stewart look an awful lot like Barry Mannilow.
my hope for booting order... Ace (he was ok last night, but elliot (better voice than some, but dull performer) taylor (would you really listen to his CD? I wouldn't unless his songs were as good as somebody like Bare Naked Ladies) kellie (there are better country singers, i like her but shes not the best Paris (she has started to annoy me alot, but im sure she will make a FANTASTIC album under the right guidence) Chris (his style is not my favorite so I didnt originally have him this high... but he has "brought it" for nearly every performance and for this he gets credit. Winner Katherine... She has show a few week moments when a song was not exactly right for her... but when she is on, SHE IS ON. I would definately buy her CD as long as the songs were good.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
It isn't just you Dab, they look alike and are now doing similar music. And Clay Aiken sometimes looks like a younger version of both.
Oh here's a pic of both Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Well I wasn't surprised, about who left but the rest of the bottom three was surprising. Ace left, Paris and Chris were in the bottom three. And it appeared likely that Taylor had the most votes.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
My fiance was just saying how he thought that had brought back Barry Mannilow again because he mistoke Rod Stewart for him.
I was shocked when Ace went to the opposite group as Kellie and Elliot. I thought for sure that was shaping up to be the bottom three. I am happy to see Ace go but not thrilled to find out that even a bad perfomance from Kellie doesn't seem to hurt her at all. I don't care for her that much at all.
I wonder exactly what they mean by the love songs theme if it will be all classical stuff or a wide range of love songs both old and new.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Yeah I'm not sure, at first I figured it'd be all Andrea Bocelli, and I was convinced they'd all need a quick ride home, ouch. But now I think it might be all love songs, and there are more options.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
Was that actually the bottom three or did Ryan just say the other three were safe? Anyway they eliminated the right one. I just find it hard to beleive Kelli wasn't in the bottom three. Maybe she got all of the Bucky votes.
After complaining that the last few weeks were boring, I'll have to say this week was really good.
Love Taylor, can't wait for his album. If I were him I would have refused to pick a side.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
What exactly are the greatest love songs? My boyfriend suggested "Stardust". I really can't think of any others. Some motown classics? Frank Sinatra?
Bocelli is the first artist I'm genuinely excited to see perform.
No surprises on the results (even though Kelli SHOULD have been in the bottom 3), and, once again, Dialidol was right on the mark.
Posted by enochville (Member # 8815) on :
As far as Kelli being in the top 3 even though she screwed up royally, I think it is because she is pretty and cute. Beauty and cuteness can take you a long way in a popularity contest like this. Some people may think that is sexist or just wrong, but I think it is just reality.
Posted by Soara (Member # 6729) on :
Ace is gone! Finally! Also, it was really mean for them to make Taylor choose which group he thought was the bottom three. It could easily have been either group, and it puts him in a really bad situation.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
Every time i looked at ace's face I wanted to wretch. he looked like a pervert
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Julia, I hate to even dignify your post with a response, but am going to anyway.
If you don't like the guy, fine, but speculating that he's a 'pervert' makes you look like the rest of the monkeys out there who think that having a computer hooked to the internet makes them capable of effective communication. Fortunately, very few of those monkeys dwell in Hatrack, and I for one like it that way.
If you'd like to post such intelligent analysis to those who can truly appreciate them, you might try the boards on www.americanidol.com. Posted by lem (Member # 6914) on :
quote: Also, it was really mean for them to make Taylor choose which group he thought was the bottom three. It could easily have been either group, and it puts him in a really bad situation.
I was thinking the exact same thing. However, I think that Taylor handled it with a lot of class. I now hope he wins.
Posted by Soara (Member # 6729) on :
Oh I hope he wins too.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I realize lots of people like him, but I'd have no intrest at all in a Taylor album. He doesn't really exhibit any style to speak of, it might be better if I couldn't see him though because I'm very visual about my music, and he isn't really my type, in any way. I would buy Chris or Paris's albums and probably Katherine's. I guess this could be an age and taste thing though. But I'm 20 and love Simon and Garfunkle (I was raised on AC/DC though).
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
Jeniwren:
Perhaps I should appologize for being one of the disgusting monkeys-for-people that in your opinion pollute the system. I only spoke the simple truth. When I saw Ace I actually gagged a little he bothered me so much. And, being the insecure 15 year old girl that I am, being called a monkey that thinks that having a computer hooked to the internet makes me capable of effective communication, does nothing for my self esteem. Thanks though.
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
Pervert: n : a person whose behavior deviates from what is acceptable especially in sexual behavior (dictionary.com)
Pervert sounds like a very strong thing to say about someone, unless you know they have some sort of deviant behavior. It's a word that shouldn't be used lightly because it maligns his character. OTOH, you didn't say he was a pervert, just that he looked like a pervert. I find that's an interesting description since I don't know what Ace looks like and I don't know what perverts look like.
Oh, well. I guess I don't have an opinion other than to ask you to think carefully before using words that have the potential to malign character, particularly as relates to sexual behavior.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
I will from now on I promise. I am an exagerater and not too careful with my word choice, so, sorry.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
exaggerator
google toolbar is my friend
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
If Kellie doesn't leave this week I'll quit watching. That song means too much to me.
No one was amazing this week, Elliot and Chris were both good, Paris oversang, the others missed something.
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
I agree breyerchic. Kellie was terrible...again.
Posted by dab (Member # 7847) on :
bye bye kellie, Paula smokes crack! Taylor was really bad this week too. top 3 chris, elliot, and katherine. middle is paris, and bottom 2 were taylor and kellie.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
I don't know if we can count Kellie out yet. That comment she made about looking for a boyfriend... she sure knows how to work her audience.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
I think Kellie will be in the bottom three, but I don't think we'll be lucky enough to see her go just yet. I think it will be Paris to leave. I really enjoyed Katharine's performance, and I was quite disappointed with the judges' reactions to it. I liked it better than the Whitney Houston version...but I guess I'm not really a big Whitney Houston fan.
My Bottom Three: Kellie Paris Katharine ...with Paris leaving
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I thought Paris and Katherine were the best, Taylor was ok, and everyone else was boring.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
I was really bored with this week all around. I liked Kellie the least but the way things have been going I won't be surprised if she sticks around. I liked Katharine too. I think the judges might have done her in though. She is always in a precarious position in the competition it seems. I expect Paris to be the other person in the bottom three just because her performance wasn't that memorable for me.
Overall, I just wasn't inspired by any of them. Chris was the only performance I found interesting but not really because it was great. Just because it was different.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
quote:And, being the insecure 15 year old girl that I am, being called a monkey that thinks that having a computer hooked to the internet makes me capable of effective communication, does nothing for my self esteem. Thanks though.
Please don't play the 'I'm just a teenager' card here. We have a lot of very wellspoken teens here that have more than earned general Hatrack respect. You've posted here less than 30 times. You're a stranger still.
Theaca had good advice, and I hope you'll take it.
*****
I'm with everyone else on last night...very yawnsville. But I was a little tentative about the theme anyway.
I thought Kat's performance was lovely, so the judges were, I thought, overly harsh. And went way long in their criticism.
I'm sorry, but while Elliot's performance was really good, I just can't get into him. He's looking less and less like Uncle Fester, though. My only wish for him is that he would *sit up* when he's over chatting with Ryan. Bad posture looks terrible on TV.
Oh Kellie. That was just...awful. And your hair...yikes!
Paris was really good, except for the 40's Blues lilt she put into it. That was peculiar. But man, that girl can sing. I do wonder, though, if teens can really go far in AI anymore. There was Diana DeGarmo, sure, but I don't know that that could happen again. The lack of experience really works against them.
I loved Taylor. Regardless of what the judges said, I think the key thing they missed was that he already has a strong female fanbase, and that the performance was intimate and deeply romantic. It was like a 2 minute chickflick.
The only thing I liked about Chris's performance was his jacket. That was a great jacket. Otherwise, I was totally baffled by the I love it effusion from the judges. It was big Ick to me.
My bottom three: Eliot, Kellie, and Chris. Kellie deserves to go after the past two weeks.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Dialidol has Kellie and Paris at the bottom, with Paris leaving.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Katharine: I actually thought she did a great job. It wasn't her best night, but it was certainly far from what they judges said. Why were they so harsh? It seemed to come out of left field.
Elliot: He was my favorite of the night. Great vocals.
Kelli: Just awful. She did nothing to redeem herself from last week.
Taylor: Good, but not excellent. When he's not into a song, you can really tell.
Paris: I like her voice, but that entire song was loud and out of tune. I cringed throughout half of it. Why did the judges rave about her?
Chris: I thought he did a great (but slightly boring) job.
Bottom Three: Paris, Chris, and Katharine (until Kellie is in the bottom three, I have no faith in America's ability to vote based on talent)
Going home: If it is anyone other than Paris, I will be shocked.
Was it just me or were the judges really weird last night? I thought Randy was bordering on mean for half the show.
Posted by estavares (Member # 7170) on :
The judges were on one last night; Randy was a crouch, Paula was drunk and Simon was ready to bust some lips for the way he was treated––if he wasn't being booed by the audience, cut off by the transition music or slapped down by a raving Paula, the poor guy couldn't do what he does best––offer the only real, honest, helpful guidance on the show.
This group is a weird one, because there's no clear front-runner and all of them are pretty bland. At the same time, I'd go see this group in person because A) Katherine is hot and B) Taylor is a hoot. He's the kind of guy I'd love to hang with.
My thought? Either Kelli or Elliott's gone, even though Elliot has a knack for tough vocals. He's just too goofy.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Oh my goodness, Simon just apologized to Katharine for judging her so harsly. Randy agreed.
Wow. Classy of them.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by estavares: . . . Paula was drunk . . .
This isn't very notable. However, it is notable that she seemed even drunker than usual.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Sorry to be so posty, but this results show merits it:
Good-bye Kellie!
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
whoa.
... did they cut her off?
--j_k
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
yeah
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
It's about time.
I wonder why she didn't sing at the end. Was it because she didn't want to go out on such a low note?
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Or because the show was over, that's my guess, they were going overtime.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
I was happily surprised with the results show. It seems like this year has a lot more ambiguity over who the frontrunners are. It should make for an interesting last few weeks.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
Yeah, I think they just ran out of time...it was just as well, though, I didn't really want to hear her song again.
It's amazing! America agreed with me this week! The top two (Chris and Katharine) would be my picks to be the final two at this point. Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Did they say what next week's theme is? I missed the first five minutes and then was distracted the rest of the time.
The results were surprisingly just this week. Kellie deserved to go.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
I'm worried about Paris though. I'm not ready for her to get the boot. But I really like the rest of them, so I guess it's crunch time now. I'm so proud that Eliot is still in the running. Good for him! Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I didn't hear the theme so I looked ath the website, here's what they said
quote: Now, Tuesday at 8/7c the Final 5 will be performing two songs each – one from the year they were born and any song from this week’s Top 10 Billboard Charts. Then, come back for the results Wednesday 9/8c.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I know I'm probably insane. But does anyone else think Simon is the hottest guy on the show?
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
You are insane, and I have strange tastes, but I agree.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I watched my first episode of this show last week.
I love Paris. She's beautiful, and she has the most amazing voice. I don't know why people don't like her. Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Katharina: I agree, I love Paris' voice. She can act kind of immature and showy (she is, after all, seventeen) and I think that may turn off some viewers who vote based on personalty.
Also, I can honestly say that at this point I think all of them deserve to be where they are and I would be happy if any of them won. They are all so talented. I really hope their tour comes to Chicago at a convenient time this summer.
That being said, I'm still a Taylor fan.
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
MSNBC is doing a vote where you have to rank the five idols. This is the results I got after I voted. I thought it was interesting. I was surprised at Katharine's strong shown but happy because I am really starting to like her more. I thought it was interesting that Elliot didn't make the top three in any position. I assume that means his votes were just completely spread out. That makes sense to me. I think he is a good singer but he bores me so I can see him anywhere from the top three to last. It looks like Paris might be in for a rough week next week.
3. Third best 1. Taylor Hicks ( 28% ) 2. Katharine McPhee ( 19% ) 3. Chris Daughtry ( 14% )
4. Fourth best 1. Paris Bennett ( 22% ) 2. Taylor Hicks ( 19% ) 3. Katharine McPhee ( 13% )
5. Fifth best 1. Paris Bennett ( 33% ) 2. Taylor Hicks ( 12% ) 3. Katharine McPhee ( 8% )
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Interesting that Elliot didn't make *any* of the top three choices for first, second, third, fourth OR fifth.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I'm surprised at how many people think Chris will win.
Also, Taylor got strong showing in almost every category!
Yeah, poor Paris. I shall be voting for her next week assuming she doesn't do that Beyonce thing again.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
I'm going to vote for Paris and Elliot like a mad woman next week. One of them is bound to go, but I just don't want them to. Honestly, I'd like to see Chris go next. I don't think he should win and IMO, he's been the least consistent of the 5 now standing.
Posted by Roseauthor (Member # 148) on :
Kellie was the primary reason we quit watching AI religiously. I couldn't stand the fact that a talentless dingbat could last soooo dern long!
I think judging needs to change! 30% judges and 70% voters. This might balance things out.
Next week will be more enjoyable for me now that Kellie is finally gone!
And Paula needs someone to do an intervention! She's getting to a point of being obnoxious now.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
That MSNBC page also has something about how all the American Idol winners so far (from past seasons) have been from the South.
I had never even thought about/realized that!
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I looked at the billboard top ten list, I don't know any of the songs, and only one of the groups (red hot chili peppers).
Posted by dab (Member # 7847) on :
so whos going home tommorow? 95% it will be paris or eliot, but I couldnt say which... I would say 60-40 eliot goes home. what are your thoughts? I was worried about Katherine after the first song, but her 2nd song will pull her through... It was so wierd, but I actually really loved it.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Damn I forgot to vote! I don't want Taylor to go home! Or Elliot.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Syn: I tried voting for Taylor, but both lines were busy, so I assume he was doing fine.
My opinion: Please never have the "Year They Were Born" theme again.
Elliott: I thought he sounded lovely in both of his songs, but Simon is right--they were bland and might not have even oomph to carry him to the next rounds.
Paris: The first song was bad and the second was a bad Mary J. Blige imitation. I love the texture and sound of Paris' voice, but I don't think she would make an album I would like and I think her fans are beginning to realize that.
Chris: The first song was amazing. The second was average, but he did lose his voice.
Katharine: I thought she did better than Elliott and Paris, but worse than Chris with the first song, and the second song was great. I also felt like her personality shone threw last night, which could pick up some of the Kellie voters.
Taylor: "Play that funky music white boy"? But I loved the Beatles cover.
Going home: Paris Bottom Two: Elliott
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
I think Katharine might win, if only because nobody seems to dislike her.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
How did Taylor get away with a Beatles tune last night? Weird. Katherine's second song knocked me out. I loved it!!
It really is song choices that are making this talented group look really mediocre. I wish they'd have a week when someone with years of experience would pick a song for each of them. That would be great.
I'm afraid it's Paris this week. Makes me sad, but her inexperience shows with her song choices. I'm glad she's got so long to go. I'll buy her album when she gets a record deal...and I have no doubt she'll get a record deal. I'm proud that Eliot has made it so far. He's played it safe and sounded delightful and velvety every time. My prediction:
This week: Paris Next week: Eliot Week 3: Taylor Week 4: Katherine Chris wins.
What I really want to happen:
This week: Chris (He has pitch problems on every song I've heard him sing. I'm not convinced.) Next week: Taylor Week 3: Eliot Week 4: Paris Katherine wins
I really think that's a good breakdown of the raw talent we're dealing with, and the consistency with which they've all performed. I'm not dumb enough to think I'll get what I want. I think it's going to be more like my first prediction.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narnia: How did Taylor get away with a Beatles tune last night?
The only thing I can figure is that someone did a cover of "Something" that came out the year he was born (since that was the criteria for song selection this week). Other than that, who knows?
I really would like to see Taylor or Elliot win at this point. I don't like Chris just on general pricniples, and I don't like either of the women enough to want them to win - although I do like Paris's voice.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
No it wasn't about the year he was born, it was about what's on the bilboard charts this week. And I think it was on Let It Be Naked or a George Harrison memory album, I don't really have the time to look on all the charts to figure out how Something is there.
I'd like to see Paris go tonight, Taylor next week, Elliot the next, then Katherine and Chris are a tossup for me. His first performance was amazing and her second was.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narnia: How did Taylor get away with a Beatles tune last night? Weird.
They let them choose something from any Billboard top 10 they could find this week. Taylor apparently did some serious digging and found this.
Incidentally, I'm glad he did. I liked his first song, but I was absolutely blown away by the second one. Of course, it helps that it's one of the best songs ever to begin with. But Taylor did an absolutely brilliant performance. He was able to show his own personality and make it unique without squashing the brilliance of the original. It was an excellent example of how a cover song should be done. Of all the years I've watched this show and all the performers I've admired, that was the first song I'd actually literally be willing to pay money for. He's been kind of struggling for a few weeks, but that performance redeemed him 100% in my book.
Katherine's second song was awesome too. I wouldn't buy that one, but I loved watching it. It's a good thing, too... she had a real Kelly Pickler moment on her first song. But if I were a record exec, I'd be tempted to sign her just on the strength of her second song. The last two songs were the best of the night (and of most other nights) in my opinion.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
oh wow, just 1. I bought 1 four years ago. I liked the song most of the way then near the end he did something that bothered me. Maybe I care too much about the Harrison Beatles songs.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
Well, he did have to edit it for time, which forced an awkward ending. But if he had time to let the song breathe and did it the same way it'd be perfect.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Maybe. Maybe I'm just not a fan (though that was my favorite performance of his ever).
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Dial Idol has Paris in last spot, but, surprisingly, Katharine in the bottom two as well and within the margin of error to be in last.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I saw that, it seems weird that Katherine is down there. I'd much rather Paris left, and I like Paris.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Oh, I'll be really sad if Katherine goes this week. Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I don't think she will, but I didn't think Mandisa would either.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kristen: Dial Idol has Paris in last spot, but, surprisingly, Katharine in the bottom two as well and within the margin of error to be in last.
I was going to mention that, but I thought it might deserve a
*********SPOILER ALERT**************
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I was kind of distracted last night while watching, so I don't think I had much of a strong impression of anyone, except the following:
I loved Chris's first song. He did it so well it reminded me why I thought he might win in the first place. I'd forgotten.
I loved both of Taylor's performances. They both made me laugh out loud. I think his concerts would just be pure fun, even if the music isn't what you normally listen to.
I admired Paris's guts for doing Prince, and liked the performance fine, but it didn't make me stand up and go 'THAT is an American Idol.'. She really should stick with the jazz standards. She makes me love that style of music.
Didn't love Kat's first performance, but loved her second song. I've never heard it before, but the song was great for her, and the way she performed it was WOW. I loved it.
Elliot is so good...but I just don't get excited about him at all. Oh well.
For me, I'd like to see the remainder of the season go:
This week:Paris Next:Elliot After that:Chris and then I don't care who wins, Katherine or Taylor. Either would make me happy.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Baron: Interesting point. Do we want a spoiler alert for dialidol postings or is that just part of the guessing game? I personally would check it anyway so I don't mind.
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
I agree with jeniwren except that I think it will be between Chris and Katherine (even though I much prefer Taylor to the type of music Chris sings.)
The problem that I see with Taylor is that he is a better live performer IMO and I don't see myself buying one of his records to listen to. I'd go see him perform somewhere in a heart beat. Also, if AI were about likeability alone, I'd choose Taylor as he is my personal fav.
I think Chris and Katherine have the best chances to really have a successful recording career and if I have to choose, I'd probably pick Katherine. She is young enough but not too young, she's attractive and has a great voice. A complete package.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Chris demonstrated last night that he couldn't possibly handle a 90 minute concert (even with some breaks) singing the way he sings. I guess he'd have to build up callouses on his vocal folds (which most rock singers have done actually.)
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Bye bye princess P.
She'll still get contracts.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Absolutely. She's an awfully gifted performer. Her only difficulty in the contest was her age, I think. If she does a jazz standards album, I'll buy it.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
I'll buy pretty much anything she does on a good label, meaning anything she does with the help of some good producers and mentors. I know it'll be good.
I was pretty sure she was going, but I'm sad that it's taken the predictable turn. I don't see Eliot making another week and I just love love LOVE his voice. So much more than Taylor's. Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Wait, who got elimanated? Not paris... She's really good Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Yeah, Paris.
And I agree with Narnia, I like Elliot.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
*groan*
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
She'll still sell albums.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Elvis Night wasn't as bad as I thought.
My opinions (which will be brief as I have 2 minutes of battery power left):
Taylor: Solid for him, but I'm not sure it will rouse voters on the fence about him. Elliott: Loved the first song, thought the second was wrong for his voice. Chris: Loved the first song, hated the second. Katharine: Really a rough night for her.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I'm not sure who I want to leave, or who I think will leave. I"d like it to be Taylor leaving, but I'm pretty sure America isn't going to do that.
Elvis oozes masculinity (I had this convo with my mom last week when we saw Bye Bye Birdie), it's very hard for a girl to sing him, and honestly Katherine did a better job than any of the other girls this season would have done, with the possible exception of Mandisa.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
No Taylor leaving. I like him.
I forgot to vote again. I tried, but it was busy. Katharine keeps doing those Celine Diony inflections. I hate that... Why can't folks sing subtle instead of screaming through a frigging ballad? Drives me nuts... No one wants to be scared out of their wits by capital lettered singing.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I wanted Kat to go head to head with Taylor at the last, but if anyone deserved to go on this week, it was Elliot. He got my votes tonight. And it was busy more often than not. So I wonder.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Mandisa would have nailed Elvis.
So to speak.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
I voted like crazy for Elliot just cause I like him a lot. I'm terribly afraid for Katherine though, and I do think it was rather unfair to have Elvis night when there was only one girl in the mix.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
quote:No one wants to be scared out of their wits by capital lettered singing.
I voted for Taylor like crazy, but it was busy all night, which is most likely a good sign.
I really think Katherine is going home, which is sad because she's talented and Elvis week was difficult for her, but Chris, Elliot, and Taylor are amazingly talented too. I agreed with Randy's initial statement that a boy will win and I still do.
(Also, I would be kinda surprised if one of the two people dial idol predicted to go home got the lowest votes)
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
Anyone on the East Coast catch it tonight, I missed it and am dying to know...
edit...my husband (who is away on business) just called and he told me who is gone...can't believe it!
[ May 10, 2006, 09:51 PM: Message edited by: sweetbaboo ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
He couldn't believe it, either! I think someone was knocked down a peg tonight.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Aww! I wanted to see Chris at least in the final episode.
I really don't like Taylor, and it's becoming apparent the rest of America does.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I was shocked. I literally had my hand over my mouth until the show finished. Dial Idol predicted he'd be in the bottom 2, but I NEVER suspected he would go home. I really was rooting for him to make it to the finals.
Also, do we know next week's theme?
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
*growls* *wanted Katharine to be gone instead of Chris* The US is out of their MIND.
Posted by Soara (Member # 6729) on :
Chris is the real American Idol....
Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
Wow, that was a bit of a shocker. I really did not expect him to go. I figured it would be Katharine or Elliot. I guess I just don't get the Elliot thing. I know the judges love him but I never am excited to see his performances. It has nothing to do with his singing. I just never smile when I see him. I don't have this urge to want him to succeed like I did with the others. I have been a Taylor fan for a long time and I really am intrigued by Katharine even if she didn't blow me away this week so I guess that I would be happy with that finale. Overall, this season I have liked a lot of the singers but just haven't had one stand out for me that I rooted for week after week as I did for Kelly Clarkson and Clay Aiken. I think I also saw a phenomenal singer in Fantasia it just wasn't my type of music. Last season I was luke warm on everyone. I am impressed though by the variety of talent that has succeeded in the AI format.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
"Chris is the real American Idol...."
Nah, Mandisa was the real talent. I didn't really care much after she was voted off.
Katharine should have gone, based on last night;s performance, but Chris really was the strongest of those left.
Whoever wins now will not be "big" like some of the others, but will sort of fade away like poor Fantasia. Just my prediction.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Also, I think Chris WILL make it big, and will be better off not being in the top two. In many ways, it stifles a person;s career as much as it enhances it. Chris can go do his alt rock thing, and he willdo well with the publicity.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
I'm in the club that doesn't get the obsession with Taylor. Everyone else just seems to adore him! I wanted Chris and Katharine to be in the finals...so much for that! Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
quote:I think someone was knocked down a peg tonight
And is it wrong that I get a little bit of joy out of that? Chris always seemed cocky and obnoxious. As a singer he had the performance appeal, but was never consistent and usually very flat. He oversings, thrashing his voice. If he does make it big, he might last 2 or 3 years as a touring act before he ruins his instrument. Or, I suppose he could change his style and hope people like the fact that he sounds like Steven Tyler. My 2 cents.
That said, I'm surprised he was voted off as well, just because the trend has been to like him no matter what he does wrong. I have a funny feeling that Taylor might just win this thing, which will be rather subversive and unprecedented. It also makes me think that Idol has shifted to an older demographic (or at least the voters are a bit older than they've been). I think that's cool and I'm interested to see how it affects the next seasons. If I watch.
I don't know, I'm invested in this particular group for some reason. I haven't watched another season of AI since the first season and I may never watch another one. I really liked this group of people and it's been fun to see them as friends and performers.
Posted by Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy (Member # 9384) on :
quote:That said, I'm surprised he was voted off as well, just because the trend has been to like him no matter what he does wrong. I have a funny feeling that Taylor might just win this thing, which will be rather subversive and unprecedented.
I have to admit that a large part of the reason I want Taylor to win is that Simon dissed him quite severely in his audition.
I do think he's the best performer left, but I'd be more likely to buy a CD by Chris than anyone else in the top 12.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Anyone else think that the way Ryan told Chris he was leaving was even worse than his usual dramatic Wednesday Night torture?
Everyone thinks he's going to drag it out, instead, just as we're catching our breath for who the bottom two are, he just blurts out "Chris, you're going home." No preamble, no dragging it out.
I'm looking forward to seeing Chris's exit interview. He looked pretty shocked to be going home, and truth is, I have to hope it was a squeaker, because Kat deserved to be the one to go. I like to think she just barely edged him out.
I'm now kinda hoping the finals will be Elliot and Taylor. I don't love Elliot (not my type of music), but I read this article: http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27265646.shtml and came to the conclusion that the author is right as long as Elliot's performances continue to impress. He's allowed the stylists to really work him over...growing his hair longer and wearing those big chunky ties has given him a more funky, hip look than I would have thought possible, given his early Uncle Fester looks. Moreover, he comes across as a genuinely nice person who is just doing his thing. As with Melissa McGhee, only more subtly, I have to think that the producers of AI have been working against Elliot all along. And his determination to excel has kept him in far longer than they wanted or expected.
Elliot has really grown through the competition. I wonder what he will be as he continues to hone his craft. I appreciate that when the pressure is on, he brings it. Kat is crumpling under the pressure, which is unfortunate. Would that she had Paris's moxie.
All of that said, if Taylor doesn't win it by a landslide, I'll be shocked.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I am probably way off but here are my predictions:
If Taylor sails through to the finals, which is highly likely as he will probably gain a lot of Chris voters, that will leave the decision between Elliot and Katharine, which will depend on performance.
If Elliot, wins, the finals will be legitimately interesting because they both have great voices, different styles, and huge adoring fan bases. And I do agree that Elliot has been downplayed--he is certainly an underdog, but Americans LOVE rooting for the little guy.
If Katherine wins, I think a good number of Elliot voters will go to Taylor to see a guy win, or because they like the male voice, and because Katharine's overall performance in the show has been more inconsistent and Taylor will easily win, especially if he varies between calm and smooth.
Also, did any of you visit Vote for the Worst? There is a HUGE article detailing precisely how Kellie Pickler is a complete liar and fake. An interestng read if you have the urge to procrastinate as much as I do.
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
Somehow I figured that Elvis was going to be good for Taylor, bad for Kat. I'm surprised it was Chris, but betting that it's going to be Kat next week.
--j_k
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
I really thought it would be Kat and Chris in the final.
katherine can easily win now if she doesn't sing as badly as she did last week.
She fits the traditional Idol winner mold. So the people who vote, will vote for her. I don't see either Elliot or Taylor being able to beat her in head to head competition unless she blows it.
Of course Taylor hasn't been in the bottom yet.
I heard a rumor that Fuel has already offered Chris the role as lead singer. the rumour says Fuel's singer is quiting and going to rehab.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
I would have rather seen Katherine go last night, but it's fine with me that Chris is gone instead. I don't know - there was just something about his attitude that was beginning to bother me, like he felt entitled or something.
I'd like to see a Taylor/Elliot final. That way, I'd be fine with it whoever wins.
Something else - and this is a bit of a rant. I keep hearing people (not so much here, but on tv and stuff) calling Elliot "funny looking" - I just heard one commentator on MSNBC call him that a few minutes ago, in fact. Okay, maybe he isn't the most classically handsome man in the world. But, you know, it isn't like he's ugly or anything. Not saying this because his looks do anything for me, either, because they don't - he isn't really my type at all. Maybe it's just that I've about had it up to here with this media obsession with "beauty", male and female, and the attempted marginalization of anyone who doesn't fit the look that the media has decided is "attractive". End rant.
Posted by Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy (Member # 9384) on :
quote: I heard a rumor that Fuel has already offered Chris the role as lead singer. the rumour says Fuel's singer is quiting and going to rehab.
That would be a great fit. I'd be surprised if it happened though.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
quote:I heard a rumor that Fuel has already offered Chris the role as lead singer. The rumor says Fuel's singer is quitting and going to rehab.
I've read this all over, and it seems to be verified by many people: Ryan Seacrest, Randy Johnson, the television show Extra, and so forth. I don't know if these sources are legit, but I've heard it from enough places that I'm starting to think it might be based in truth.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
quote:Originally posted by littlemissattitude: Something else - and this is a bit of a rant. I keep hearing people (not so much here, but on tv and stuff) calling Elliot "funny looking" - I just heard one commentator on MSNBC call him that a few minutes ago, in fact. Okay, maybe he isn't the most classically handsome man in the world. But, you know, it isn't like he's ugly or anything. Not saying this because his looks do anything for me, either, because they don't - he isn't really my type at all. Maybe it's just that I've about had it up to here with this media obsession with "beauty", male and female, and the attempted marginalization of anyone who doesn't fit the look that the media has decided is "attractive". End rant.
Well, he is a little funny looking.
Am I the only one who thinks he looks just like Mr. Tumnus, the Faun from Chronicles of Narnia.
Sorry I couldn't help it, I aggree with the whole media trying to make everyone fit into a certain mold of what's attractive thing.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Elliot did sing the best cover of Knocks me off the Feet EVER though.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Well, CNN Confirmed that Fuel has offered Chris the job. He just hasn't decided if that is the direction he wants to go yet.
FG
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Legally, he can't sign anything until the Idol tour is over this summer. This is the part where the contestants start to say "Damn American Idol!!" Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Is is just me, or does it seem like the judges are trying to sabotage Katherine? I thought her last number was dynamite (much more listenable than TAYLOR'S!!) and they torpedoed her again. It's like they want her to be the next to go for sure.
I'm not sure who should go next, I know it will probably be Katherine or Elliot, but I'm digging all three. I just don't think Taylor is as good as the judges say he is. He can do no wrong in their eyes and it bugs.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I missed half of it because I was at the vet with the dog, but from the one song I saw of Elliot, and two of the other two, I think he's probably the one to go. I didn't like Katherine's "somewhere over the rainbow" Taylor did ok on "you are so beautiful" but that is one of my favorite songs ever.
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narnia: Is is just me, or does it seem like the judges are trying to sabotage Katherine?
That's interesting...I thought it seemed like Simon, especially, was trying to promote Katherine last night. And he came right out and told Elliot that he would be gone come tonight. And I imagine he will be, but I really wish it would be Katherine instead. I just don't think she's that good.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I agree with littlemissattitude. Both Coatesie and I felt that the judges were trying to promote Katherine. Not like Elliot did spectacular, but he was about at the same level as Katherine and they received wildly different responses.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
quote: didn't like Katherine's "somewhere over the rainbow"
Really? I thought it was so pretty it gave me goosebumps. It was vulnerable and simple, which is why I liked it so much. It made her other two songs sound overly decorated.
Did anyone else think that Clive Davis's song choices were a little weak this year? I hate the song Open Arms. It was overplayed in my teen years and for me has become the ultimate overly sappy love song. I appreciated parts of Taylor's Dancing in the Dark but I thought it illustrated that Taylor is no Bruce Springsteen.
Mostly it was a good episode, but the highlight for me was Over the Rainbow.
I can't guess who is going. Just not Taylor.
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
I completely agree with you jeniwren.
I can't imagine what tonight will bring.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Well, jeniwren, neither can dialidol.
Katherine and Elliot are pretty much tied. It's going to be a tense results show, that's for sure.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I am just so bored by all three. I am still ticked about Mandisa, I guess.
Katharine's song(Rainbow-hate it anyway) the best song ever sung on Idol? Good Heavens, Simon, did you have some of Paula's juice?
Ah, well, the only good thing was this:
Me to my daughter: That Katherine reminds me of someone. Not someone famous, someone I know.
My daughter: Your tall friend who came to Rhythm and Roots with us. (Myr)
Yup, that was it!
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
She'd be better if she'd STOP WITH THE DARN CELINE DION vocal things! I mean it! It annoys me. That woman strains her voice and lacks subtlety. She's not singing a darn rock and roll song crying with misery and pain BUT LOVE SONGS. So she must screach and scream and I hate it. But, at least she sang this one song that prince wrote really well. Katharine was best when singing subtle and soft and not trying to get all loud and screamy. Not every song requires that!
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
I agree with you too Synthesia, I was thinking of Katherine as more Mariah Carey in terms of trying to hit every single note in her range--argh! However, I did think Rainbow was the best I've heard her sing yet (other than the Black Horse and Cherry Tree song)
Posted by Soara (Member # 6729) on :
Taylor was wonderful with Dancing in the Dark, it really suited him.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Who got voted off?
Posted by Coccinelle (Member # 5832) on :
Elliot
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
awww, actually I would have said that for any of them.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Was anyone else surprised that Taylor's (likely the highest percentage) was so close to the other two? I was.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
This has been the oddest season. It started out with so much talent and we end with Taylor and Katherine. Not that they're not talented, but I just don't think they're up there with Mandisa, Paris, or even *gulp* Chris. Katherine has been a favorite of mine all along, but I just don't think she's been consistent enough to deserve a spot in the top two.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Oh, don't hate me, but I have to do this: Katharine There's an "a" in the middle, not an "e".
I want her to win so there's another Katharine out there. Posted by theresa51282 (Member # 8037) on :
I was surprised that they were so close in totals too. I really thought Taylor was a sure thing and that Katharine and Elliot would be battling it out. It all comes down to now where Elliot's votes go. I think this is going to be closer than it seems. I wouldn't be surprised if Elliot voters are a bit hostile towards Taylor as he seems to get by on a lot of personality and Elliot's biggest downfall was not having a lot of spunk. I think this one will be closer than I originally anticipated.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Kat, how could we hate you for being a Katharine with an A? It's far more alluring with an A, after all...just as it is far more alluring with a K than with a C. Pity me for being a plain old (and ubiquitous) Jennifer.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: Oh, don't hate me, but I have to do this: Katharine There's an "a" in the middle, not an "e".
I want her to win so there's another Katharine out there.
Ha ha! I noticed I had written it both ways, and thought, well, I'll leave it that way. One is a typo, the other is the correct spelling. If your name has an "e," choose the one with an "e" as the correct one.
Jeepers, Kat, of COURSE the one spelled with an "e" was the typo!
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
I haven't been able to get through with voting for weeks. And I tried for 2 hours. Makes me wonder since the percentages are so close that it's a matter of luck: what Katharine fans got through and what Elliot fans didn't.
I have been rooting for Taylor since his audition, so this would be the third season (out of 3 I've watched) where I have predicted someone in the finals from the beginning of the season.
And where was Ah-nold? Everybody else got a governor!
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Kristen, I'm betting that you can keep trying to vote well after your alotted two hours. I usually don't start voting until about half an hour to an hour after the show ends (I'm on the west coast) and generally get through about 60% of the time. Try it anyway and see if it works to try after your two hours are over. Being as you're on central time (aren't you?), you may have a few more hours if you don't mind staying up that late.
That's just a guess, though. I've not thought of trying to vote while the show is still on. I have company on Tuesday nights, and watch on DVR after they leave (which is just about when the show is over).
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
Jeni: I did! My last attempt was at 12:45am. Maybe I am just unlucky, alas.
Posted by Julia (Member # 9244) on :
anyone else feel like they are controlling the show with their every wish and whim? I don't even have to vote anymore. It's crazy.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
I heard Simon in an interview today say Taylor would win because he's from the south, and the south will get behind him and catapult him to victory.
Isn't it kinda funny that three Birmingham area natives have been in the finals? Ruben, Bo, and Taylor. I was born and have spent most my life in Bham and never considered it really a hotbed of musical talent. Weird.
Posted by Krankykat (Member # 2410) on :
Sweet Home Alabama... but those guys were from Florida.
[ May 19, 2006, 11:02 PM: Message edited by: Krankykat ]
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
Seeing all the finalists again made it glaringly obvious to me that Taylor should not have won. Ah well.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Really? Who do you think should have won, Brinestone?
I only caught bits and peices last night. It looked like a better finale than last year's, which felt over-inflated with a bunch of stuff that wasn't remotely entertaining. The parts I caught were mostly entertaining, including the silly awards. Though I thought the duet with Meatloaf and Katharine was just strange. It illustrated to me that she really needs to do musical theater, not pop.
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
quote:I'm such a Taylor (grey hair) fan. Anyone who plays a blues harmonica rendition at his audition is cool by me.
My first post in the thread (besides the header). I am totally pleased with the outcome of this season, although Taylor's single is just awful. Once he actually releases a cd in which he has input, I am going to buy it though.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
As far as Taylor winning, I'm ok with that. He was consitently good. I'm not a fan of the soul style, but he has lots of talent and there wasn't a week when he didn't do well. He put everything on the line and danced like a maniac every time. He's a real showman (though I don't much like his dancing either. ) and I have to admire and respect him. He will sell albums, and concert tickets. He'll be a success and that's the whole point.
While I'm completely loyal to Katharine (cause I think she's great), I think it was clear that she should not have been in the final two. Yikes!! If there were to be a girl in the final two I might have picked....Mandisa. Paris. Even Lisa knocked my socks off last night. She has a lovely talent and all three of those ladies are equal to or better than Kat. Paris and Mandisa are much more comfortable on stage....anyway, blah blah.
quote:Though I thought the duet with Meatloaf and Katharine was just strange. It illustrated to me that she really needs to do musical theater, not pop.
It illustrated to me that Meatloaf shouldn't be singing anymore at ALL! He can't carry a tune in a bucket in his old age and they left Katharine singing the harmony part with him on a lousy, flat, lousy melody. There was nothing Kat could do to make herself look good during that duet. Poor thing.
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
"Sooooouuuuuuuuul Patroooooooooooool!"? Am I thhe only one who thought of Braveheart?
I was surprised-- it actually held my attention for two hours.
--j_k
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
On a related note, Narnia, I much preferred Elliott's rendition of "One" to Mary J. Blige's.
Posted by SC Carver (Member # 8173) on :
Thought both of them missed the introversion of Bono's version. And as a huge U2 fan I couldn't stand it, but I thought most of the duets sucked.
I thought Talyor and Katherine both showed they desevered to be in the finals. They both seems much more "on" when singing than the others.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I'm happy Taylor won. I like him. But I really hate medleys.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
SC, What it made me think was, "what a poor showing for American Idol this year." I love Taylor, but I tend to agree with Simon that he basically a good bar singer. I was disappointed by Mandisa, my heroine of the season. All in all, I was bored this year.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
*pain* *agony*
I watched the 2007 Seattle try-outs last night
*pain* *agony*
Tell me when it is down to the top 24 of something, and maybe I can stand to watch it again. I hate seeing people embarrass themselves.
FG
(I didn't find a new thread for 2007, so my apologies is there is one)
Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :
The Top 24 is scheduled to get underway on February 20th.
I'm enjoying it so far, even the cringe-worthy bits. (There was a point in the final performance last night where I was looking at the screen from between my fingers, it was so bad, but I was simultaneously thanking the producers for letting it stretch on. There is a sublime quality to the truly awful.)
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I feel rather band for the people who go up there open their mouths and sound like they are tormenting cats. Especially that one dude singing Unchained Melody or something, causing me to yell OH NO, NOT THAT SONG! NO!
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
I just realized that I never answered jeniwren last year. I think Chris or Katharine should have won.
Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :
Everyone around me says watch this show in the early stages, because it's so funny. Granted, people making fools of themselves is amusing for a few minutes, but is it really necessary to have 4 hours of it in one week?
I watched on Wednesday, and I've watched a couple of these early episodes from past years as well, and I've noticed a sharp decline in the amount of singers who are good enough to make it actually getting any air time. I think they should have more of a 50/50 split between the good and the bad, as they have in past years.
Also, what a scam this whole thing is. I remember an episode from one or two years ago where they showed that they have a pre-screening process for who actually gets in to audition. Obviously they're allowing bad singers in for the entertainment value, but then you get the judges moaning about how they're so sick of these people auditioning. Like hell they are. It's all calculated, but I guess the producers know what they're doing, as so many people seem to enjoy it. Myself, I can't watch more than half an episode a year of these early stages.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
I thought the Seattle auditions were more entertaining than the ones from Minneapolis. I was cringing at those...but maybe it's because I live here and feel it's a fair sampling of the weirder side of our region. It didn't make me cringe because I have known too many people just like them. I especially liked the software engineer from Utah...you just can't write a character to be as purely geeky as that guy. I bet he's a great programmer.
I also thought that Simon, Randy and Paula were much kinder to the Seattle auditioners than the ones in Minn. I thought they were especially kind to the seriously attractive-challenged mom and daughter twin set. And that girl from Snohomish who needed to lose 100lbs and the pink body suit...that was just weird. They were much nicer to them. It's one thing to see people embarrass themselves...it's another to see them taunted cruelly. I found the Minn auditions more unwatchable for that.
I think it's funny that Seattle was ranked one of the most fit cities in the country because it sure didn't show in the American Idol auditions.
Ruth, I liked Taylor, but in retrospect, I think Chris should have won. I got Taylor's CD for Christmas and still haven't listened to it...which probably says something.
Posted by Morta (Member # 10100) on :
It does seem like they are making an effort to only show the bad. I do like to see the gems among the others though. I absolutely love the kid with the big, floppy hair (sorry I don't remember his name, to much hotness last night, I think) and his sister. They were both adorable and sang really well.
Posted by Geraine (Member # 9913) on :
When I watched the brother and sister whos father is from India audition, American Dreamz popped into mind. They reminded me so much of Omar's two cousins. The sister was hot (Dont tell my wife I said that)
(For those of you that havent seem American Dreamz, its a satire of American Idol, in which Omar, a muslim contestant, is recruited to make it to the finals and then blow himself and the president up. Its quite a funny film, although Im glad I just rented it)
Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :
Quoth Fitz:
quote:I watched on Wednesday, and I've watched a couple of these early episodes from past years as well, and I've noticed a sharp decline in the amount of singers who are good enough to make it actually getting any air time. I think they should have more of a 50/50 split between the good and the bad, as they have in past years.
They work with what they've got. I've been watching it since the first episode, and the number of singers put through in Minneapolis and Seattle this time around was below average. I'm hoping the good singers show up in their later stops.
With that said, there has never been anything close to a 50/50 split between the good and the bad. I think you may be romanticizing the past a bit. The first phase of Idol has always been all about the trainwrecks, with the occasional good one left in to spice things up.
Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :
Well, like I said, I speak from the somewhat limited perspective of only watching a couple episodes a year. My recall (not romanticizing, I don't think I care enough about the show to go that far) is that I saw a lot more good singers in the past. You're right, it was probably never 50/50. After I stopped watching yesterday, I periodically flipped back, and not once did I happen upon anything other than an embarrassment. Maybe, as you say, it's mostly a case of a lack of talent in those cities this year.
Posted by Perplexity'sDaughter (Member # 9668) on :
I'm not really a big fan of American Idol;last season I tuned in-literally- just in time to watch them announce the winner and that was it.
I do like to watch the auditions though. I hate to admit it, but my favorite part is watching the horrible singers. Does that make me evil?
Eh, anywho, they're showing the auditions from Memphis next week and I'm pretty excited, since I might see someone I know;Memphis is a 30 minute drive from where I live.
Posted by Seatarsprayan (Member # 7634) on :
I never watched American Idol before, but I watched most of So You Think You Can Dance, so I thought I'd give it a try.
I hated it. I felt bad for all those crazy people they make fun of, and Randy was needlessly cruel, much worse than Simon. I was expecting Simon to be worse after all I heard.
I missed the early auditions for SYTYCD season 1, and I didn't like a lot of the ones from season 2, but this seemed much, much, much worse. Much more mean.
I won't say it wasn't fascinating, because it was, in a sociological sense, but it wasn't entertainment. I set Tivo to just record Tuesday instead of setting a season pass, so I didn't record Wednesday's show. I was actually glad about that.
I'll check in again when they go to Hollywood. Sadism isn't fun for me, and that's not just what it is but what they're *trying* to do.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I really got into season 2 and season 4, but not the other seasons of Idol.
Definately I think SOME of the bad acts are "plants" -- these people either aren't for real, or wouldn't make it through the pre-screening process, and the fact that they are putting them on for air time is just stupid. The "amish" guy was most likely a network plant.
That said, I also really like the brother/sister, that both made it. But it makes me sad that they will be competing against each other; they seem so close and I hope the competition doesn't sour their sibling closeness. They should just go off on their own as a duo.
FG
Posted by Lupus (Member # 6516) on :
I've never really thought Simon was all that mean. He is blunt...but sometimes people need that. If people start arguing back, then he can get nasty...but many times Simon says what many people think, but are to nice to say.
As for the auditions, the prescreeners generally only let through those who are very good or those who are very bad. And lets face it, there are more truly terrible singers than there are really great ones. I've knew a couple of people who tried out who were pretty good singers (but not amazing) who did not make it to see the judges.
Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :
quote:Originally posted by Farmgirl: Definately I think SOME of the bad acts are "plants" -- these people either aren't for real, or wouldn't make it through the pre-screening process, and the fact that they are putting them on for air time is just stupid. The "amish" guy was most likely a network plant.
A pleasant notion, perhaps, but I have more faith in the human capacity for self-delusion and depths of awfulness. One of the more notorious season 2 rejects sometimes sings at a local karaoke place, and I can assure you that he's quite real. There's no need for network plants when people are lining up to help.
(There is a known case of a radio station sending somebody in as a stunt, in season 3. Simon voiced his suspicions at the time and turned out to be right. No indication of collusion, though.)
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I'm with Farmgirl. I think they are plants. There are probably a lot more mediocre people than anything else.
Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :
The other problem with the "plant" theory is that one needs to assume that the inevitable followup articles in local papers are in on the conspiracy.
quote:Originally posted by Farmgirl: The "amish" guy was most likely a network plant.
There's an interview with him from a local morning show here; currently it's the second post down. (He's not actually Amish, though it's his nickname and he identifies with the lifestyle.) It's entertaining; I'd go listen.
...and of course there are more mediocre people than anybody else. As Lupus said, there's never been any secret made of the fact that the pre-screeners select the very best and the very worst to bring before the judges from the thousands of people who show up in each city. Mediocrity isn't nearly as much fun to watch.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Wow - thanks for the links Shmuel.
So do some people really know how bad they are and are just wanting their "15 minutes of fame" anyway?
FG
Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :
quote:Originally posted by Farmgirl: So do some people really know how bad they are and are just wanting their "15 minutes of fame" anyway?
This would not surprise me. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Yes, FG. In fact, I think it is more likely than the plant theory, but then that just makes the American Idol people look really dumb in my eyes.
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