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Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
 
I'm so delighted by the choices in swimwear this summer! I'm looking at a long-sleeved "rash guard" top and what looks like boy trunks for my little girl. She has very fair skin and it would keep her from getting burnt so easily.

For myself, I like shorts and a tank-type top. Or a cute little skirty thing with pants underneath. So many choices to flatter so many figures! And at last things that don't plunge down the front or hike so far up that you have to shave your personal areas! And you can still get itsy-bitsy bikinis if you want to. But you are not slave to only a few styles any more.

Hooray!
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Hmmph! Still not modest enough for me. I wouldn't mind something like this, though.
 
Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
 
I'm fond of showing a little leg, but not my crotch - which seems to be what most swimsuits in the past would highlight. I'd have to shave and fret about it. I would usually end up wrapping up in a towel or pareo. But now I can wear a cute skirt or comfy shorts in the water. Yay!

And as for tops, well... not being luxuriously endowed (except when I'm nursing), I look better in a close-to-the-neck tank. Makes me look curvier.

Tante, I'm sure you can find something to suit your taste on the internet. You'd be surprised what's out there.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
I always wear long skirts, well below the knee, long sleeves, below the elbow, high neckline, above the collarbone. Oh, and I keep my hair covered.

Also, I can't stand the sunshine, so add a parasol to that outfit. Quite a look, isn't it?

Of course, those rules of modesty only apply when there are men present. If it is a women's only swimming pool, then I can skinny-dip for all I care.

Well, maybe not skinny-dip. But my full and womanly curviness needn't be obscured.
 
Posted by martha (Member # 141) on :
 
I bought a matching set of underpants and bra which look like they're made of swimsuit fabric. Nobody's the wiser.

I'm really the kind of person who's way too self-conscious to wear a bikini... but as long as I'm going to wear a swimsuit (as opposed to swimming in my pajamas, which I have done), I might as well bare my belly too -- it'll take people's attention away from my hairy legs, which are what I'm most self-conscious about. And no, I'm not gonna shave. I didn't even shave for my wedding, so why would I shave to go swimming?
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
I bought a smiwsuit that looks very much like this one. It's in two pieces, but it has a "sport" look I really like.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
*giggles* There are some very modest suits available, indeed...
 
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
 
martha, I'm curious...if you're self-conscious about having hairy legs, why not shave? I pretty much only shave for swimming or if they're going to be exposed by what I'm wearing. Otherwise, I don't bother.
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
I don't know about Martha, but I don't shave because the hair grow back bigger... So I remove them instead. Ouch. Especially the armpits hair.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
*giggles* There are some very modest suits available, indeed...

That is pretty close to what I'd like to wear to swim. All I'd need is a skirt to go over it. And if it had weights sewn into the hem to keep it from floating up, that would be even better. I might even be able to go to the beach in an outfit like that, as long as I slathered on the SPF 45, carried a parasol, and didn't stay out too long.
 
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
 
Tante, I hope you're not thinking that swimming is the target activity here. Because weighted garments and swimming sound like a great recipe for adventures in drowning. [Smile]
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I need a new swimsuit. [Frown]

I hate swimsuit shopping. It always reminds me of the areas of my body with which I'm dissatisfied.

-pH
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
jeni, I'm thinking of little weights, just enough to keep the skirt from billowing up around my bosom. I'm not thinking of donning cement overshoes.
 
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
 
quote:
I don't know about Martha, but I don't shave because the hair grow back bigger
That's actually an illusion, Anna.

Its odd though, that casual observation seems to contradict this in regards to speed of growth.

For instance, the hair on my legs hasn't appeared to gain any length in the last 5 years or so. So my apparent leg hair growth rate is: 0.0 inches per week.

If I were to shave it, however, the hair would probably take a few weeks to grow back. So perhaps 0.3 inches per week.

I think perhaps what's happening is that my leg hair is still growing at its normal speed, but that it falls out after a certain amount of time/length.

[Dont Know]
 
Posted by Sergeant (Member # 8749) on :
 
Well,

I'd like one of these to swim in. That way only your head and hands get wet and you can stay warm in 50 degree water. Of course I prefer to do all of my swimming at 45 feet below the surface [Smile]

Sergeant
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
I wasn't speaking about the speed of growth but about the thickness of the hair.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I don't think it actually grows back thicker...I think maybe when you first start shaving, if you're young, it hasn't all grown in yet, so it SEEMS like it's growing back thicker.

Because if it perpetually grows back thicker, then I should look like a yeti.

-pH
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
Hmm, sorry Xavier I hadn't read all the page - it talks about thickness too. But then self-observation contradicts it, if we speak about me at least. Remove hair from my armpits hurts like hell and I sure woudl'nt do it if I hadn't noticed the hair grow back less thick.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
Body Hair is insulation for your skin. It grows slower in warm climates and faster in cold. Also if it's reached the point where growing longer doesn't actually help the thermoregulation, I believe it stops, in many cases.

Your armpits are sensitive to cold and sweat, the hair actually helps the process of wicking the sweat away from the skin. And your head always loses the most body heat, probably partially why it never stops growing there.

AJ
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
quote:
And your head always loses the most body heat
I had heard that too. Actually I heard that was why you should never put a baby who has a fever on his belly to sleep.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I'm pretty sure my leg hair has started growing more and more slowly.

*checks leg unshaven since Sunday night* Yup. That used to be next-day stubble.

-pH
 
Posted by Rico (Member # 7533) on :
 
I totally need to get myself one of these. [ROFL]
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
Tante, weights don't sound like a good idea to me, but what about a skirt with velcro that attatched to the pants?
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
Or snaps?
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
I found one place that sells "jumper" type swimsuits that go over a "rash-guard" type top and bottom; you could use the "jumper" part over the one I linked to earlier.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sergeant:
I'd like one of these to swim in.

quote:
Telescoping torso, crotch strap and suspenders
Telescoping crotch strap? Huh? That's got to be interesting to see.

Is that your telescoping crotch strap, or are you just glad to see me?
 
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
quote:
And your head always loses the most body heat
This is a myth. Its based on a very old study, which made some very faulty measurements. You do not loose significantly more heat through your head than you do through other parts of your body unless of course your head is uncovered and the rest of your body is well insulated.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
It is based on how much heat a person loses in the winter when their head isn't covered. How much a hat helps suprises most people, because they had no idea how poorly hair insulates. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
No Kwea, I teach a heat transfer class and I've looked into the history of this one. There is a prevailing wisdom that gets passed on in boy scout training and hiking handbooks that you loose 60% of your body heat through your head. The basic idea is that you will be warming putting on a hat than you will putting on a sweater. This idea was based on a very old and very bad study.

While its true that if your head is uncovered and the rest of your body is well insulated, you will loose most of your body heat through your head. It isn't really any worse to have your head uncovered than it is to have any other body part uncovered.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Rabbit:
I teach a heat transfer class

Ooh! Would you be my study partner?
(waggles eyebrows suggestively)
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
But dousing my head in cold water helps to cool me off as much as dousing the rest of me in cold water. [Dont Know]
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
quid, when you can't do that, try running cold water on your wrists. It has to do with circulation, and it really works!
 
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
 
Hey Jenny, do you have a link to these modest swimsuits? I'm no good at google, and I couldn't find them in the very short time I tried. I'd love to see them!
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Yeah, kq, tried it. It doesn't. [Frown] But we're also talking about me who's 10 degrees warmer than the rest of the population in the middle of northern Alberta winters who, at -20, doesn't bother wearing a winter coat cuz she's too warm and now is living in a tropical country and has hot flashes that last for days at a time.

On another note, I learned that I have a phosphorous deficiency. Go figure.
 
Posted by martha (Member # 141) on :
 
jeniwren, you asked why I don't just shave, since I'm self-conscious about my legs.

I used to shave, and I was at least as self-conscious about my legs then. I have a birthmark that goes all the way from my right hip to my right toes and looks faintly like a rash (it's also accompanied by varicose veins). Also, I've never liked the shape of my legs -- chunky, with very big calfs. So my rationale is, people look at my legs (in summer when I wear shorts) and think, "Martha's legs are ugly because they're so hairy," instead of, "What is wrong with Martha's right leg, and is it contagious?"

Also, my hair grows back really fast. When I used to shave, I'd shave in the morning and by mid-afternoon my legs would be stubbly... and I couldn't shave every day because my legs would get raw. And I couldn't swim in the ocean after shaving because the salt hurt. And think of all the time I've saved in the 10 years since I stopped!

And now I think my hairy legs are sexy. Doesn't matter what other people think (except my husband, and he agrees with me).
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Hey, you're absolutely right on that score - it only matters what you (and to a lesser degree, your husband) think.

Fahim doesn't care if I shave or wear makeup or let my white hair grow out. It matters not one whit to him. I shave - occasionally - for me and me only. In this country, shaving legs is not common and most women here have, oh, a heckuvalot more hair on their legs than I've ever seen on any white person ever, even if they were dark Italians. Forests, people! Entire shrubberies!
 
Posted by martha (Member # 141) on :
 
Tante!

quote:
Is that your telescoping crotch strap, or are you just glad to see me?
quote:
(waggles eyebrows suggestively)
You wear skirts and head coverings for modesty, and yet you make such lewd jokes! [No No] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Uhm, thanks for bringing that up, martha. I wondered the same thing, but was too scared to ask! [Eek!]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
I'm religious, but irreverent. The rabbi would definitely not approve, I'm afraid. What can I say, I'm a baaaaaad girl!

(chastise me?)
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
quote:
I think perhaps what's happening is that my leg hair is still growing at its normal speed, but that it falls out after a certain amount of time/length.
I always thought it had to do with the life-length of the hair. For example, eyelashes and eyebrows. Ever growing at the same rate as any other hair on your body, but only lives a few weeks, so falls out before it gets very long. I don't know if this is true or not.
 
Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
 
I've been looking at landsend.com. There's a great range of suits. I wouldn't call them modest in Tante's sense, but they certainly cover more than most suits I've seen in the past and they look good.
 
Posted by Sergeant (Member # 8749) on :
 
quote:
Is that your telescoping crotch strap, or are you just glad to see me?

I think it was supposed to be the telescoping torso, and seperatly the crotch strap and suspenders (not telescoping) [Smile]

I have seen some Drysuits that have a zipper so guys can go pee without removing the upper portion of the dry suit (Takes a lot of work). The gals are out of luck on this count though.

My wife's drysuit zips across the back so someone has to zip it up or unzip it when she needs out. Fairly inconvinent.

Sergeant
 
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
 
Thanks, Jenny! [Smile] I'm getting married this summer, and going to a beach (either in Thailand or Hawaii) for my honeymoon, so I want a very cute but modest swimsuit. I'm LDS, so I need a modest one-piece, but I don't need to go as far as Tante's standards.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
I wear a skirted sport tankini from Land's End. (Well, when I'm not pregnant.) I love it. And despite being a "tankini", it covers like a one-piece-- the only difference is I can go to the bathroom and such more easily.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
How many swimsuit places are there anymore that sell the pieces separately? I don't think Land's End does...

I'm different sizes. Mostly because I'm super self-conscious about my lower parts, so I buy a little bigger so the suit doesn't pinch and make me bulge out a lot. For the same reason, I also like the ones that tie on the sides. Then I can maybe get away with not buying different sizes.

-pH
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
I can go to the bathroom and such more easily.

My sister taught me this trick when we were girls. Instead of wiggling in and out of the wet bathing suit, just pull the entire crotch part way to one side. Because bathing suit stuff is stretchy, this works fine.
Also, if you are wearing a leotard or bodysuit, you can use this method, instead of stripping down to pee.
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
Wearing a snap crotch bodysuit with fake fingernails is not good. No the moving it to one side wasn't going to work.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
The tankinis that cover like a one-piece--except more modest. Yeah. I love those. [Smile]

I love not having to take off my whole bathing suit to go potty. ^_^
 
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
You know, I don't think I'd ever heard the word "modest" used to mean "covers more skin" until Hatrack. It's just not a usage I'm familiar with.
 
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
 
That's the term I've always seen camps use for clothing rules.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Have you heard it in regards to style of dress, though?
 
Posted by Artemisia Tridentata (Member # 8746) on :
 
[QUOTE]How many swimsuit places are there anymore that sell the pieces separately? I don't think Land's End does.../QUOTE] Yes they still do. But, through the catalogue. I don't know if their "deal" with Sears covers swimware. And in my "only as an observer" opinion,(yes even old guys still notice) they are as attractive as any "modest" suits on the market.
 
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
bev -- yes, but the way I've heard it used was more "not fancy" than "not revealing." So, for example, a simple sundress would be more "modest" than a long-sleeved, high-necked, floor length evening gown covered in sequins. Even though it doesn't cover as much.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
How about refering to clothes as "decent?" (Meaning not too revealing.)
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
Well, I don't need "modest." [Wink] A swimsuit is an excuse to walk around in public in my underwear!

-pH
 
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
Hmmm . . . nope. I have heard clothes refered to as "indecent," but I don't think I've ever heard it the other way.
 
Posted by Rien (Member # 1941) on :
 
It lists it as an informal meaning on dictionary.com:

Informal. Properly or modestly dressed


I've heard it on movies "go make yourself decent", but I unfortunatly can't think of a specific movie at the moment.

With the word modest I've only heard it mean simple or plain outside of church.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I always think of when there's a movie or something and a guy knocks on a girl's door and asks, "Are you decent?" Meaning...are you dressed?

That's what I think of when I think of "decent." Clothed.

-pH
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
Just for the record, the "covers more skin" definition of "modest" is one I was familiar with before joining Hatrack. [Smile] Dunno how I picked it up and dkw didn't.
 
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
Maybe you violated it more often?
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
It is interesting the differences in lexicon. I know that LDS tend to have their own, so I don't always know what will sound strange to someone. I figure in any culture where being "clothed enough" is valued, there will be a term for it. "Covers more skin" is a bit of a mouthful.

For example, when I nurse a baby, I have to get a bit of skin into his mouth that isn't publicly shown in most cultures. Do I feel comfortable breastfeeding in public? And if I do, how much should I cover up? If I am going to cover up some so as to not make others (or myself) uncomfortable, what would you call the motivations behind that? Modesty? Decency? Is there another word?
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
Wish me luck. I'm about to go swimsuit shopping.

I shall return horribly dissatisfied with my body!

-pH
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Celebrate your womanly curviness!
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Anna:

I bought a smiwsuit that looks very much like this one. It's in two pieces, but it has a "sport" look I really like.

I think "sporty" swimsuits look good on most women because they suggest strength and confidence, but not this one in my opinion. It's so revealing that it seems to be trying too hard to be sexy, which is a turnoff for me.
 
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
 
[Grumble] We are trying to plan our vacation, and I know I will need a bathing suit.

WHY oh WHY after you have a baby can you weigh the same as before you got pregnant but still have a hateful pocket of belly fat?

space opera
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I still want this. But I'm not sure I can pull it off. Either red/black or black/white.

But I have a Victoria's Secret credit card...it calls to me.

-pH
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
Maybe you lost muscle due to lack of physical activity while pregnant? (If you hadn't you would now weigh more?)

But yeah, my aunt had her third and final child six years ago and she still has a pot belly, though she's slim everywhere else.
 
Posted by Celaeno (Member # 8562) on :
 
Ooh, pH, I vote red/black.

I'd buy VS swimsuits, but I have a weirdly sized body, so I need to try things on first.
 
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
 
I want to go swimming this summer, but to do so, I would need to find a swimsuit that covers the tiger-stripe stretch marks on my belly, breasts, thighs, and butt (covering breasts and butt isn't hard, but thighs is going to be a doozy).

I'm considering a one-piece with board shorts or something, but I'm worried I'll look funny considering I'm still pretty slim and pretty young.

*sigh*
 
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
 
Ooh! Newport News has some very affodable, very pretty modest suits. I am in love with this one and this one and this one in particular.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
I love the sporty look of some of the Ohana suits, but that may be more coverage than you're looking for. Very sleek, though. I really like the Kilauea.

Edited to add: oh, and that last one you linked is so gorgeous!
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
I want to have a swimsuit like the ones from the beginning of the XX century!!!!

SOOO COOOOL! [Big Grin]

(and maybe I'll even get myself one of those special cabins to swim "decently", out of men's sight. No more feeling embarassed about my imperfect body! [Big Grin] )
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
quote:
I want to go swimming this summer, but to do so, I would need to find a swimsuit that covers the tiger-stripe stretch marks on my belly, breasts, thighs, and butt (covering breasts and butt isn't hard, but thighs is going to be a doozy).

I'm considering a one-piece with board shorts or something, but I'm worried I'll look funny considering I'm still pretty slim and pretty young.

Almost every girl I know does the board shorts. They usually do the bikini top, but honestly, I don't think I'd even notice the difference.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by oolung:
I want to have a swimsuit like the ones from the beginning of the XX century!!!!

SOOO COOOOL! [Big Grin]

(and maybe I'll even get myself one of those special cabins to swim "decently", out of men's sight. No more feeling embarassed about my imperfect body! [Big Grin] )

*eyebrow raised

I am afraid I am missing your point, oolung, and I'm sure that I would regret that. What exactly is it you are trying to say?
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
...
that was just a general... hmmm... well, I'm just in a funny mood right now, so I may well be writing nonsense. [Blushing] I'm afraid my post wasn't as deep as to try and find a deeper meaning in it...
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Celaeno:
Ooh, pH, I vote red/black.

I'd buy VS swimsuits, but I have a weirdly sized body, so I need to try things on first.

Do you think the red would be better? I kind of thought so. I thought the black might emphasize how freakishly pale I am.

But at the same time, the black might make it look like I'm freakishly pale on purpose. Which would be good.

I like the hotpants better than the regular bottoms. The regular bottoms always look funny on me unless they're the kind that tie on the sides. And then those sometimes come untied. [Eek!]

-pH
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by oolung:
...
that was just a general... hmmm... well, I'm just in a funny mood right now, so I may well be writing nonsense. [Blushing] I'm afraid my post wasn't as deep as to try and find a deeper meaning in it...

*smile

I was wondering if you were pointing out how sometimes we forget that customs needn't be set in stone, or perhaps commenting on the excessive focus on "perfection" as a bodily ideal. I didn't mean to make you blush! (But I was putting on my benign-yet-vaguely-scary priggish-old-missy face, just in case you were making fun of my desire to hide all my, er, glories, as it were. [Wink] )

Those would be good points for discussion, too. I think the issue of scars and the body is a very underrated way to approach issues of self-esteem, identity, and the gaze of the Other -- especially as it relates to women. Couldn't tell if you were going there or not.

Ahem. Excuse me whilst I adjust my bloomers here. You know, a young lad did come up to me in the store the other day and tell me I was absolutely beautiful, and he asked if I was married. My husband thinks it was the braided up hair and lack of makeup, combined with chic-chic clogs and prim, disapproving set to my lips. You know how hot that look is. Poor fella couldn't help himself. [Big Grin]

-----------

Edited to add: pH, I think you would look hot in either, but especially so in the red. Sets off pale skin magnificently, and the color comes with a built-in touch of just a little swagger. Great color for the coming season.

Sincerely,
The Claw
 
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
 
pH, I love the red and black. I think it would look awesome on a pale person.

Anna, I love the sporty one you linked to. I bet you look fabulous in it!

I bought a bathing suit by catalog this year, and the great advantage is that I didn't have to go try it on. Luckily it fits, too. [Smile] I'm going to start swimming for my cardio, I think.
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
quote:
I always think of when there's a movie or something and a guy knocks on a girl's door and asks, "Are you decent?" Meaning...are you dressed?
Marsha Mason: "Are you decent?"

Richard Dreyfuss: "Yes."

Marsha Mason (opens door) "(Gasp!) I thought you said you were decent!"

Richard Dreyfuss: "I am a decent person. I also happen to be naked."

(Neil Simon's The Goodbye Girl)
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
Should I start a thread on modest swimsuits for men? Oh for a pair of 1970's style triple knit trunks.
 
Posted by Will B (Member # 7931) on :
 
Then again, maybe the snark has a point, with

...its fondness for bathing-machines,
Which it constantly carries about,
And believes that they add to the beauty of scenes---
A sentiment open to doubt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathing_machine
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
A friend of mine is a beautician, and she tells me that having hair waxed or plucked damages some of the follicles and causes them to stop growing hair, so if you want less hair, waxing is better than shaving.

Also, from a man's perspective, boy cut suit bottoms are sexy [Wink]
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I used to wax, but it gives me a horrible rash, even if I put special cream on my skin afterwards. And by the time the rash is gone, it would be time to wax again. So I can't enjoy my waxedness. [Frown]

I also have to be very careful with hair removal creams, which half the time don't remove all the hair and the other half the time also give me a rash...

-pH
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
What about the little machines that remove your hair, like this one? I use one, it hurts the first time you use it but after a few times you get used to it.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I've never tried that! Does it work better/longer than shaving?

I've always been tempted by those little bikini trimmer things that are supposed to keep you from getting all irritated there. That looks really bad with a swimsuit.

-pH
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Anna, those are torture devices! [Angst]

By raise of hands, who remembers the Epilady . . . and the percentage that were returned once people discovered what using one FELT like? *raises hands*
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
It honestly hurts less and less with time. But yes, it hurts a lot the first time. I like it because I don't have to use it that often and it stays nice longer than if you shave.
 
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
 
After reading the topic, I was curious about the various styles of swimsuit out there (Isabel, my future wife, also has body issues, because of her physical disabilities and medical procedures - I call her 'overconcious', but you know women...hehehe). I found many pages about something called " Brazilian Swimsuit". I was astonished to discover (Yup...I didn't knew) that there is a whole style of swimsuits bearing my country's name. Of course, they're some of the most scant swimsuits out there. Why, o why that must always be the case? "Brazilian woman" - someone shows a semi-naked girl tanning on the beach. "Brazilian vacation - come enjoy yourself in Brazil" - lots of semi-naked girls, usually showing their behinds very closely to the camera... and it goes on, and on.
And our federal government wants to take measures to "discourage sexual-oriented tourism in Brazil". Duh. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by ctm (Member # 6525) on :
 
Brazilian swimsuits!? Be pretty hard to swim in some of those. They should be called lying-on-the-beach suits. Or lounging-by-the-pool suits. Or attracting-sleazy-guys suits.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
More shocking than the Brazilian swimsuit is the Brazilian wax job that you need to pull it off.
 
Posted by Shmuel (Member # 7586) on :
 
quote:
What about the little machines that remove your hair, like this one?
I tried one of those for a bit and ended up returning it to Amazon. It's by far the most painful and least satisfactory hair-removal method I've tried; it's like -- well, it is -- having a machine ruthlessly yank out each individual hair with a pair of tweezers. Except for the ones it misses, so you have to keep applying it. Waxing is both faster and less painful, getting an entire section over with in one swift yank.

But then my body hair is probably coarser and more prolific than what you're dealing with.
 
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
 
Brazilian...wax-job?
Ok...I searched and I'm freaked...it have its own place at
Wikipedia!

Or, as another page puts it (and I...tend to agree):
"A cult of pain has swept the Western World over the last few years. It's led by women in white coats waving hot spatulas of wax unsettlingly close to those bits your mother might not have told you about."
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
But the Brazillian still leaves a little bit of hair. Apparently, having it ALL gone is becoming increasingly popular.

Just having my EYEBROWS waxed makes me bruise and get a rash. I'd hate to see what it would look like if I had THAT done.

-pH
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
Oh, yuck! I would never go that far, if only for modesty, and it sure has to hurt a lot! I only remove the hair so that there's none out of my underwear and sometimes I trim the others.
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
quote:
It's so revealing that it seems to be trying too hard to be sexy
Not by French standarts. If I wear it on a beach I can be sure there are a lot of other women wearing far most revealing swimsuits.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I used to know a girl who would pluck it out with tweezers. All of it. [Eek!]

-pH
 
Posted by Kristen (Member # 9200) on :
 
Brinestone:

quote:
I'm considering a one-piece with board shorts or something, but I'm worried I'll look funny considering I'm still pretty slim and pretty young.
How about a sarong? There are many pretty ones and they have the advantage of covering as much of your thighs as you want. A lot of them are water-proof as well.

PH: You wax yourself? [Eek!]

I didn't know being pale was considered good. That is nice to know. My legs are so pale that you can see blue veins in ordinary light so I have been avoiding skirts so far.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I TRIED to wax myself a few times. Not "there," but on my legs and stuff. And either it doesn't get all the hair, or I get a rash. [Frown]

I think if you're going to be pale, you just have to be confident about it. I wear ridiculously short skirts all the time, and I'm very, very pale. Of course, my hair is also dyed red. At any rate. Maybe it depends on the shades of your skin. According to my makeup counter people, I'm more of a yellow/orange kind of color. Either way, I'm pale, and I get bitchy when people tell me I should get a tan, if for no other reason than that I don't want to get skin cancer or age prematurely.

-pH
 
Posted by Space Opera (Member # 6504) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Omega M.:


But yeah, my aunt had her third and final child six years ago and she still has a pot belly, though she's slim everywhere else.

*screams* Did you understand you were saying this to someone who is 6 months post-partum with her third child?

[Razz]

space opera
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Brinestone:

Ooh! Newport News has some very affodable, very pretty modest suits. I am in love with this one and this one and this one in particular.

They all look nice but I like the first one best. The beaded flower suggests a bit of outrageousness since you don't see many suits with beads, but it blends in with the main color enough not to draw attention to itself.

The second one looks rather ordinary to me, and the third one looks too much like a real dress look sensible swimming in.
 
Posted by ctm (Member # 6525) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Space Opera:
quote:
Originally posted by Omega M.:


But yeah, my aunt had her third and final child six years ago and she still has a pot belly, though she's slim everywhere else.

*screams* Did you understand you were saying this to someone who is 6 months post-partum with her third child?

[Razz]

space opera

I was mentioning to a friend that Newport News lets you shop for swimsuits by your body type and she wondered if one of the types was "gave birth to three children".
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
After reading this thread, I shopped for suit online. Then I spent the $80 on yarn instead.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I just purchased the Victoria's Secret suit in cranberry and black. [Smile] It will be here on Monday!

Although the customer service guy on the phone was....a guy. So it was kind of weird to order from him.

-pH
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pH:
I just purchased the Victoria's Secret suit in cranberry and black. [Smile] It will be here on Monday!

Although the customer service guy on the phone was....a guy. So it was kind of weird to order from him.

-pH

Yeah. A man who does the customer service for Victoria's Secret has women calling him all day and night describing their underwear. I can understand how this kind of job would have appeal, but I might find it creepy to describe my underwear to a stranger on the phone.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
ClaudiaTheresa, well, at least I can be proud of being able to trigger such deep thoughts, if not thinking them myself [Wink] But seriously, I think you've got a point there. And I often resent the way media made everybody know how a 'perfect body' should look, while we all know perfectly well that 'perfection' is a thing that's hard to find, so almost everyone has SOME misgivings as to the way they look and YET we follow the fashion and wear skimpy costumes even though we don't feel completely comfortable in them. (but then, what choice do we have?) And we treat stretch marks or additional fat as if it was some monstruosity, while it's a perfectly normal thing and it's rather unusual when you DON'T have anything of the kind...

Now you've got me all wound up... [Smile]

(And the thing that made me blush was your raised eyebrow: very scary, even when you just read about it [Smile] I prefer when you write about smiling)
 
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
 
After thinking about things and reading and discussing the question, I've just about decided that the societal concept of "modesty" (which almost always seems to apply to females only) is largely oppressive.

It's totally contingent on time and place for context, and the best thing of all is if your particular time and place has extremely free standards of modesty, so that you can personally dress in a way that's comfortable, cool, and allows free movement, but is still considered modest in your culture.

All of us who feel we should dress modestly, are nevertheless grateful for the fact that in our culture today, we can show our ankles and wrists and faces and still be thought modest. We pity the women of yesteryear, and of other societies, who must cover up so much that normal jobs become impossible, playground activities for girls are severely curtailed, and basically it's not easy to carry on an ordinary human life.

So, on serious consideration, I've decided all such standards are a bunch of hooey (to quote a dear friend from another thread [Wink] ). Wear what you feel comfortable wearing, and don't worry about it. If that's nothing but your skin, then you might get arrested (like that carpenter guy), but you won't get any flak from me about it. [Smile]

[ May 04, 2006, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: Tatiana ]
 


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