So, being from Hawaii, I get a lot of crap about the most famous Hawaiian word in the history of ever. It seems like we have a nice mix of peeps on these boards, so I thought I'd ask the question. Jokes are welcome but I'd also like some serious answers.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Um, I thought it meant both hello and goodbye. Is there something I'm missing?
And welcome! Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
"How are you", "I miss you", "I hope you're feeling well", and lastly "with all my love to you".
Those are the ones I've heard them used as most. But there are many applications for it.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
So it's kind of like the "kree" of Hawaii?
The Jaffa would love it there.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Except "kree!" is more of a "hey you!" "pay attention" type of thing.
Posted by Demonstrocity (Member # 9579) on :
"Give us back the `aina"
"Bu for guv"
And last, but not least...
"If can, can. If no can, no can."
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
Nice to see you Drew.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I meant the comparison as more of a "look at the versatility of this word!" type of thing.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Ah! Yes, of course. Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Okay, speaking in Klingon is bad enough, but Jaffa? Oi. I'm such a geek. :cries:
Posted by Eduardo St. Elmo (Member # 9566) on :
Aloha. That's what they say on Hawaii, of course. It means both 'hello' and 'goodbye'. Which just goes to show if you spend enough time in the sun you don't know whether you're coming or going...
Also, it starts off one of my favourite songs: Why Don't They Come Back To Dunoon? - The Humblebums.
(edited for spelling)
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by quidscribis: Okay, speaking in Klingon is bad enough, but Jaffa? Oi. I'm such a geek. :cries:
What Klingon do you know?
Other than "Petock" and "Qa'plah" I don't know any at all.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
What, the sentiment isn't enough?
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
I, um, might have read some of the courses on learning Klingon at the Klingon Language Institute.
tlhIngan Hol jIghoj!
I've always understood Aloha to mean "hello," "goodbye," and "love." In fact, the Hawaiian version of "Jesus Loves Me" sung in my grandmother's church (she lives on Oahu) uses aloha for love.
Oh, and while "kree" is multipurpose like "aloha," I'm pretty sure those first primes aren't telling the other Jaffa how much they love them.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Oh, and while "kree" is multipurpose like "aloha," I'm pretty sure those first primes aren't telling the other Jaffa how much they love them.
*desperately tries to stifle laughter so as not to wake the kinder*
I've been known to shout "Kree!" When my daughter starts to run across the parking lot and I need her attention... I'm afraid she's going to grow up thinking it's a real word...
As for "aloha", I've heard it as "hello", "goodbye" (more like "so long" than a formal goodbye), a benediction of peace and love the way some people use "shalom", and, strangely, "it's all cool, we're good".
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
quote:Oh, and while "kree" is multipurpose like "aloha," I'm pretty sure those first primes aren't telling the other Jaffa how much they love them.
*doesn't bother to stifle laughter* Lovely!
quote:I've been known to shout "Kree!" When my daughter starts to run across the parking lot and I need her attention... I'm afraid she's going to grow up thinking it's a real word...
What, it isn't a real word?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: What Klingon do you know?
Other than "Petock" and "Qa'plah" I don't know any at all.
Kreplach! P'chah!
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I heart this thread
Tante, I'm not sure Klingon means the same thing in Hebrew.
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Klingon, Hebrew--Talk about a dangerous Mohel
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
Heh...that would make for an interesting new rite of ascension. "You're going to do WHAT with that bat'leth?!"
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Actually I thought Aloha meant, "Here, take these cheap smelly flowers and give me all your money you silly pale tourist."
Face it, those Hawaians are so cheap, they only use half the alphabet, forcing their words to do double or triple duty. Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
*shakes head* *laughs* *smirks* *laughs some more*
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dan_raven: Actually I thought Aloha meant, "Here, take these cheap smelly flowers and give me all your money you silly pale tourist."
Face it, those Hawaians are so cheap, they only use half the alphabet, forcing their words to do double or triple duty.
Hey, as long as you silly pale tourists keep ponying up the money, why not?! It costs a lot of money to support the verdant and sun-splashed dreams of many.
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
We use "spread the aloha" when talking about the spread of infectious disease...
We're weird, but we have a lot of aloha.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
It means I get to dump a bunch of 1 point tiles on someone else's H.
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
Wow, a maui babe. I gots family in Kahului.
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
I live upcountry and work in Wailuku. Kahului is too hot and crowded for me.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:What does the word "Aloha" mean to you?
It meanst that they expect me to say "Aloha" back. They are usually disappointed.
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:What does the word "Aloha" mean to you?
It meanst that they expect me to say "Aloha" back. They are usually disappointed.
No, we're not disappointed. We just know you have no aloha is all. Not everyone does.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
They always look disappointed. Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dagonee: It means I get to dump a bunch of 1 point tiles on someone else's H.
Dag, you a Scrabble junkie too? If you're looking for a place to play, the Internet Scrabble Club is pretty neat. That's where I hang out. ISC. I'm Dakoit on there. I'm not as obsessive now as I used to be, therefore I'm not as good, but I still love to play.
I personally assosciate "Aloha" with the sun. So if you say "Aloha" to me I start looking for the sunburn.
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
wow, went to college with some upcountryers!
and mr_poteiro_head, you don't need to say "Aloha" back, but at least tip them for trying .
Posted by Celaeno (Member # 8562) on :
I associate "aloha" with some person saying how mainlanders have no aloha spirit. Usually I disagree with this person and tell them to suck it up. I'll take the mainland attitude over the fake nice, okay-let's-hug-and-kiss-on-the-cheek one the prevails at home.
(Or it could just be that I have personal space issues and don't understand the need to hug and kiss people every time you run into them.)
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:you don't need to say "Aloha" back, but at least tip them for trying [Wink] .
Trying do what?
Oh, and "mr_porteiro_head" is much too long to type out every time you want to address me. Feel free to call me Porteiro. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Celaeno: I associate "aloha" with some person saying how mainlanders have no aloha spirit. Usually I disagree with this person and tell them to suck it up. I'll take the mainland attitude over the fake nice, okay-let's-hug-and-kiss-on-the-cheek one the prevails at home.
(Or it could just be that I have personal space issues and don't understand the need to hug and kiss people every time you run into them.)
If that's what aloha means, then I definitely don't have any.
:shudder:
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:Originally posted by Celaeno: I associate "aloha" with some person saying how mainlanders have no aloha spirit. Usually I disagree with this person and tell them to suck it up. I'll take the mainland attitude over the fake nice, okay-let's-hug-and-kiss-on-the-cheek one the prevails at home.
(Or it could just be that I have personal space issues and don't understand the need to hug and kiss people every time you run into them.)
If that's what aloha means, then I definitely don't have any.
:shudder:
It's still better than infectious diarrhea, which is what it sometimes means at work.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:It's still better than infectious diarrhea, which is what it sometimes means at work.
I have so little aloha that I actually had to think about which I would find worse -- infectious diarreah or being kissed and hugged every time I saw people.
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
One can lead to the other, but not the other way around.
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
quote:Originally posted by Celaeno: I associate "aloha" with some person saying how mainlanders have no aloha spirit. Usually I disagree with this person and tell them to suck it up. I'll take the mainland attitude over the fake nice, okay-let's-hug-and-kiss-on-the-cheek one the prevails at home.
(Or it could just be that I have personal space issues and don't understand the need to hug and kiss people every time you run into them.)
Man, I really miss that actually. Especially in Japan, personal contact is pretty much not done here. I understand that it's a cultural thing, but it's really nice.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Man, I really miss that actually. Especially in Japan, personal contact is pretty much not done here. I understand that it's a cultural thing, but it's really nice.
I think this is one of those issues where 99% of the time people prefer what they grew up with.
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
Yes, Porteiro. Here in Brazil (at least in Rio) people like personal contact very much.
How did you feel about that when you were here in Brazil for your mission, Porter?
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
It took me a little while to get used to the hugging and kissing here, but I like it now. I went to Idaho in June and ran into a woman I used to know about an hour after I got off the plane (we had stopped for lunch in Layton, UT). Without even thinking about it, I hugged her. I think I scared her to death, but it didn't even occur to me at the time that it might be unusual to her.
Now it kind of creeps me out when I go to church on the mainland and no one hugs me or says aloha.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Sauron -- yeah, I didn't like that.
I am not very casually physically affectionate with even my wife, and when people too physiclly affectionate with me, I feel as though they are presuming an intimacy with me that they do not have.
Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
So I guess ... "Aloha" means "hello", and "goodbye", and some sort of unspecifically identified "spirit of the islands" involving love and acceptance and laid-back-ness (or possibly, "infectious disease").
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
Wow, not bad Jenna, we're making progress here. Alright.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote: No, we're not disappointed. We just know you have no aloha is all. Not everyone does.
Considering what you said earlier about STDs, isn't this a very good thing?
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: I am not very casually physically affectionate with even my wife, and when people too physiclly affectionate with me, I feel as though they are presuming an intimacy with me that they do not have.
I can definitely see your point on that one. The only way I can think of to describe it would be to say that it's a very human feeling. Very warm and affectionate. Of course, that's not necessarily the intent of the embrace, but that's how I'd conceptualize the feeling. I am a very casually affectionate person, and I do believe that it's a product of the way I grew up.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:The only way I can think of to describe it would be to say that it's a very human feeling. Very warm and affectionate.
I believe I am human, but I am not warm and affectionate.
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
I believe you are human too. I also believe you probably grew up in a society that taught you to withold your affection and "be a man". But I could be wrong.
Posted by Celaeno (Member # 8562) on :
The same for me, mph.
If I'm affectionate with you, then you are ridiculously special.
edited to add: What about me then, Kaminari? I grew up in Waipio Gentry, and I'm female. My parents are actually pretty affectionate and my siblings definitely are. I'm the odd one out. Explain me.
Some people just don't like being affectionate. While it certainly has something to do with upbringing, that can't be even close to all of it.
Posted by cmc (Member # 9549) on :
For one who's never been to Hawaii, Aloha means...
A way to say hello and mean it and a way to say good-bye without. It means sun-shining and sand filled beaches with the promises of sights you've never dreamed imaginable. It means cheap smelly flowers wound together into a wreath of relaxation. It means a refuge from the cheap smelly crap seen everyday. It means a way to say hello and mean it and a way to say good-bye without.
Like I said, I’ve never been to Hawaii but that’s what Aloha means to me.
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
Ok. That's great. That's the kind of thing I was looking for. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
If I lived on a tropical island in the middle of the Pacific, I'd be full of the aloha spirit too.
Spend a winter in Michigan, you'll gain an appreciation for spirits of another kind entirely.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:I also believe you probably grew up in a society that taught you to withold your affection and "be a man".
Yeah, you're wrong.
I was brought up by parents who are not very physically affectionate, but I was never taught that it was bad, weak, or womanish.
Posted by cmc (Member # 9549) on :
No problem, kaminari.
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
quote:Originally posted by cmc: For one who's never been to Hawaii, Aloha means... It means cheap smelly flowers wound together into a wreath of relaxation.
Yep, you've never been to Hawaii. Nothing's cheap here.
Posted by cmc (Member # 9549) on :
Cheap meaning doesn't cost many 'dollars'? I hope that's what you mean as I didn't intend to slight anyone with 'cheap'. I was just playing on the words thrown out before... : )
Posted by kaminari (Member # 9622) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:I also believe you probably grew up in a society that taught you to withold your affection and "be a man".
Yeah, you're wrong.
I was brought up by parents who are not very physically affectionate, but I was never taught that it was bad, weak, or womanish.
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