I only stumbled across the news on a random blog. Just wanted to get the news out there more to people.
The wheel of time has always been on that "to read" list. I always told my self I was going to wait until it was done. Then I heard Jordan had been diagnosed with cancer and was prepareing a 2,000 page book to finish the series.
I guess I'll head out and buy that first book now.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
For what it's worth, I wouldn't have looked at that thread if Brinestone hadn't pointed it out to me.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I'm not trying to be a jerk -- I just thought that people in this thread might like to know that there's another thread discussing the same topic. Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
That wasn't really to you (and it definitely wasn't saying that you were a jerk). I was just sort of commenting on the fact that there have been several threads on this already—I guess I'm not the only one who didn't see "Rand" and immediately think it had something to do with Robert Jordan.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Let's play a free association game. What's the first thing that comes into your might when I say...
Rand?
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
McNally.
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
My first thought as well, actually.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Actually, I might've thought Ayn when I first saw it, but McNally is what popped into my head just now.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Yeah, I posted a new thread about it this morning and then stumbled on the other one almost immediately and went back and deleted mine. I've never read any of his works so I didn't get the reference, but I knew there were Jordan fans here, so...
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Does Rand McNally save the world?
Posted by Pegasus (Member # 10464) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Let's play a free association game. What's the first thing that comes into your might when I say...
Rand?
Yeoman Rand on Star Trek (TOS)
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Does Rand McNally save the world?
You could say they save the world in convenient map format.
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jon Boy:
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Does Rand McNally save the world?
You could say they save the world in convenient map format.
I shouldn't laugh out loud in a thread about someone's death, but that really got me.
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Let's play a free association game. What's the first thing that comes into your might when I say...
Rand?
A large, gentle, musclebound humanoid armadillo from Breath of Fire II, an RPG for the SNES made by Capcom.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
Ayn, because I have been thinking about reading Atlas Shrugged lately.
Posted by Christine (Member # 8594) on :
This is actually at least the third thread to spring up since the first. I started one and deleted it after I was shown the other, but quite frankly a thread about what might happen to Rand in the future didn't then and doesn't now make me think it's a thread about Robert Jordan dying. It may be just as well that we leave this alternate up for others who might otherwise miss this important and tragic news for the fantasy world.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
I'm glad I saw this thread, because I never would have looked at the other one as well. I assumed it was about Ayn Rand, having never read any of Robert Jordan's work, so the name "Rand" did not ring any other bells for me.
Maybe the creator of the original thread could edit the title?
Posted by anti_maven (Member # 9789) on :
I also thought of Ayn Rand, becasue I couldn't believ that someone would be writing about Ingersoll Rand, a manufacturer of slate saws...
Sad about Robert Jordan though - I will probably never read his books now. I hate unfinished stories...
Posted by Christine (Member # 8594) on :
quote:Originally posted by anti_maven: I also thought of Ayn Rand, becasue I couldn't believ that someone would be writing about Ingersoll Rand, a manufacturer of slate saws...
Sad about Robert Jordan though - I will probably never read his books now. I hate unfinished stories...
The story will be finished. It may not have quite the same voice/style, but it will contain the events Jordan meant it to contain and it will conclude the series. Before he died, Jordan told at least two people, including his wife and editor (the only editor for the entire series) all the details of the end. He also has extensive notes. It will be a shame that his spirit will not be fully present in the last book, but I remain confident that there will be a conclusion. Meanwhile, I still think the early books are well worth reading just for themselves. I was never as swept up in what would happen (the ending) as I was in the world and what was happening. The books were a pleasure to read and I will continue to recommend them.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
from ornery:
quote: posted September 17, 2007 10:50 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- from george r.r. martins blog.
"9:30pm: R.I.P. Robert Jordan The world of high fantasy is poorer today.
James Rigney, better known to fantasy readers as Robert Jordan, has passed away. Although he had been fighting amyloidosis for several years, the news of his death still came as a shock to many, including me. He was so optimistic and determined that you had to think that if anyone could beat the disease, it would be him.
Jim was a good and gracious man, a pleasure to share a platform or a pint with, and his contributions to modern fantasy were many. His huge, ambitious WHEEL OF TIME series helped to redefine the genre, and opened many doors for the writers who followed.
He was also unfailingly generous towards other fantasists, always ready to offer them support and encouragement. My own ICE & FIRE series might never have found its audience without the cover quote that Jim was so kind as to provide, back when A GAME OF THRONES was first published. I will always be grateful to him for that.
The last time I saw Jim was at an Archon in Collinsville, Illinois. It was before his final illness. He was the convention Guest of Honor and I was the Toastmaster, and I introduced him by telling the audience that actually we were the same person. It was a gag that Jim himself had suggested in the Green Room beforehand. While I was doing the intro, and claiming credit for all his books, he slowly entered, walked up silently behind me, and stood looming over me, glowering like Zeus. We got a great laugh.
I had some great dinners with Jim and his wife Harriet there in Collinsville as well. We talked about other writers, editors, publishers, all the stuff that writers always talk about... oh, and a little about our own series as well... and Jim and Harriet invited me to visit them if I ever made it down to Charleston. Sad to say, I never did.
RIP, Jim. You will be much missed."
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
I'm so sad. I just found this out TODAY. It's been more than two months since he passed away. :-( I was so hopeful that he really would be one of the lucky ones!
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
I feel like a jerk and a cad, but part of me went, "Maybe those people who keep popping up to go 'When the Wheel of Time comes to its triumphant conclusion, you plebians who dare to criticize The Great Work in your failure to comprehend its awesome grandeur will know your place!' will finally shut up."
A writer has died fairly young; may his work be remembered kindly, and mostly by people whose observations are more gracious.
Posted by Sergeant (Member # 8749) on :
GRR, how did I miss this news. I feel a bit bad that the first thought through my head is that I hope he had the rest of the story well laid out so that it can be finished.
The other two mega-series that I am reading are supposed to be winding up. Supposedly Terry Goodkind's new book is the last in that series and I'll read it when I get back to the states in a few weeks. And OSC says the next book of the Alvin Maker series will be the last even if it has to be 1000+ pages.
And I keep telling myself that I'm not starting a series until its finished but it never works out.
Sergeant
Edit to add: On second thought and after reading some other information it was very considerate and kind of him to sacrfice so much of his last period of life to giving us what he could for the last book.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
So how many books are there in all, including the yet-to-be-written one?
I have always said I would just wait until they were complete before I finished. I think I made it to Book 5 or 6. It just got too detailed, and there were too many spankings. But having invested all that time, I do want to finish the series.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Twelve, IIRC.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Good heavens. I may have to take back my statement above!
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
imo, 10 was better than 9, and 11 was better than 10.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
10 better than 9? Seriously? Honestly? 9, with all the stuff that happened in it, the real feel that the plot had finally moved (after the glacial path of daggers (8))? As opposed to 10, where nothing, seriously nothing, happened except for one Matt issue (and the rest being manuevering pieces into place for the final game). I'm honestly trying to think of what happened in 10? Matt and Egwene stuff (and the latter, like in the last 10 pages). As opposed to 9 with some monumental stuff going on and issues answered.
no comparison.
Posted by Tristan (Member # 1670) on :
And so it's decided who gets the honour of finishing the Wheel of Time...
An interesting interview. It sounds as if the guy is a fan. I'm looking forward to what he'll come up with.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
He's a fairly new author—his third book was just published this summer. OSC has spoken very highly of him, as have some other notable authors, I believe. I read his first book and found it fairly enjoyable but not terribly impressive overall. My wife quite enjoys his stuff, though. She actually knew him when she was a freshman, and she's read some of his unpublished stuff and loved that, too. I haven't read enough by him to have a real opinion, but the fact that Harriet herself chose him to finish the book makes me feel a little better.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I can say this....I have read two of his books and I loved them.
If he is writing the rest of the series I may have to buy them after all. Posted by pfresh85 (Member # 8085) on :
I haven't read any of his books, but they seem to get positive reviews. I look forward to the last book of the series. I trust he'll do good with it and follow Robert Jordan's vision for the end of this series.
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