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Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Gah, I feel like such a sissy, calling for help. But it's 12:31 PM of the day my paper is due, which I've been working on all day, and I can't find it. It's saved. Oh, it's saved. I made sure of it. The problem is that I, the colossal idiot that I am, saved it to the same place I downloaded it off of an attachment from my email account. And I can't find it. At all. For the life of me. When I download another copy and see where it tries to save it, it's in a place I can't get to (C>Docs and Settings>Owner>Local Settings>some other mumbo jumbo. But I can't get to Local Settings).

I'm working in Paralells on a Mac, in OpenOffice (my printer only works through windows, and I'm too cheap to buy Word). If anyone could help me ... please please help me.

Edit: I should say I Opened it in the place it was at from my computer (Temporary Internet Files?) and saved it there. Is it gone? If it is, let me know that too so I can start writing.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Doesn't the Mac have a Find function?
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Yuiop. But it's not Finding it for me.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
I'm not sure I understand. The filepath looks like a Windows filepath, but you're working on a Mac? Am I missing something?
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Weird.

Sorry, you need a Mac person.
 
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
 
Not only does it have a find function, but Spotlight can search on content inside documents, not just the name.

However, this doesn't help when you're running a windows virtual machine - I don't think you can use native Mac search on documents inside a Parallels Windows environment.
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
I'm running Windows on my Mac. I'm word processing on Windows (through Paralells Desktop which allows me to run the Windows OS in a window on my Mac desktop. Nifty, I know) so I can use my printer.
 
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
 
OK, but did you receive the email in the Windows side or the Mac side - and when saving, have you setup Parallels to share a save directory with the MacOS?
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
I recieved it on the Windows side and I don't think I saved a share directory. However, I did just manage to access Local Settings from Finder on my Mac and the results were not good. I couldn't find it. If I can't find it in Temporary Internet Files, which is where it tells me it's saving the other ones I open, is it a reasonable guess that I've lost it? Because I'd like to start rewriting as soon as possible if that's the case.
 
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
 
If you're saving to the same location as the attachment was stored, there's a good chance it's in the temp directory, which is usually excluded by search tools. It's probably not gone, but you're going to need to be able to get to the temporary directory.

On a windows system that would be at c:\documents and settings\<username>\Local Settings\Temp

Local Settings is a hidden directory, but you should still be able to get into it by typing the path in. Alternatively, if you can get a windows explorer window open, go to Tools | Folder Options, then select the View tab, and select the bubble next to "Show hidden files and folders" to make the Local Settings folder become visible.

If it's not in temp or temporary internet files, then it may be gone.
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
So it would be in Temp, not Temporary Internet Files? Because it says my Temp folder is empty.
 
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
 
Depends on the app. If a further download has shown temporary internet files, then that's probably the place, but in doing so you probably overwrote the version you saved.
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
I hate myself. Thanks anyways. It's going to be a lonnggg night.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
Also, why can't you just download it again and specify where to save the file from your e-mail (or wherever you're downloading from)?
 
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
 
Also, what printer are you using that it can't work on a Mac?
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Ah, because I spent the entire afternoon and evening working on the one that I had downloaded, without ever saving it to a real spot, or uploading it back to my email account. That's what I was trying to do when I realized *poof*, it was gone. Oh well. It was a crappy paper anyways.
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Its a Deskjet 4160. Maybe it'll work on a Mac. I've tried and it hasn't, but I have put zero effort into figuring out why. Though you can be assured that after this debable there will be no more of this. This is why I got a Mac, so I would have to deal with this crap. Ok, now I really need to get to writing. Thanks a lot for your help [Smile] . G'night.
 
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
 
There's no reason why it shouldn't - although HP printers don't have a great rep with Mac users, I can't see on a brief search any widespread issues with that model.

Not that it would've saved you from this problem - it's just as easy to overwrite a document on a Mac.

But hey, it should be trivial to sort out and Neo Office runs just fine on Mac.
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Well, I just finished rewriting. I daresay this paper is heckuvalot better than my other one, though that may be because I am seriously sleep deprived right now and just glad to have this over with. Now, to get through school tomorrow... caffeine anyone?
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
Don't ever go more than an hour without saving to a location that you know how to get to. A half-hour would really be better.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
I didn't see this in time to help, but I get this call quite a bit here at work. The thing is, the user themselves can't just "browse" to that OLK** folder under temp in Explorer because it won't let them see it, even if view hidden files are turned on. You have to actually type in the path in a web browser window URL line to see that hidden sub-folder (and you can copy the path from a registry key.)

For me, here at work, when someone calls me with having "saved" a file in their temp from Outlook, I can map a drive to their C: drive from my machine and then find it remotely from there, and move it to where they can find it. But it isn't visible on their own search.

This link shows where to look in your registry to find that particular temp file where e-mail stores temp attachments.
 
Posted by Raventhief (Member # 9002) on :
 
Isn't there a Recent Documents type deal in Open Office? Like File>Open Recent or some such?
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Another trick is to open a file in the same program (doesn't matter what file) and then do a "save as" and see if it'll try to save to the very last directory you saved to.
 
Posted by cmc (Member # 9549) on :
 
Dr Strangelove... Do you want me to call mac with the handy-dandy mac helper thinger and ask them how to find it??? It's not a stupid paper if you spent that long working on it - that'd be like calling yourself stupid and I don't believe that. You could compare the 'first draft' with the 'second draft' and pull anything you like out of it. Let me know...
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
It was due today at 11:00, so I just rewrote the whole thing before I went to bed last night. It was only 2000 words. Saturday I wrote a 5000 word one in about 5 hours, so it wasn't too hard. The only problem was that I'd already returned my books, so I was forced to just use online article sources.

In case you're curious, it was about the epidemics in Mexico during the 16th century and how that influenced and was influenced by the myth of the noble savage. :-)

Thanks everyone though. Ya'll might just get me to keep my word about spending more time on Hatrack [Wink] .


Edit: And I just checked the TurnItIn.com digital receipt ... 2%. How's that for not plagiarizing. [Sleep]
 


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