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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Except if you're, y'know, a student.
 
Posted by Shawshank (Member # 8453) on :
 
Another reason why I don't like Clinton.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
And if the demographic skewed the other way, you don't think who was for and who against would change in a heartbeat?
 
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
2 more days.

I'm about to stop answering the phone or the doorbell, because I'm tired of telling people who I'm caucusing for. Or refusing to commit.

The funny one was a groups of students making the rounds of the neighborhood trying to get people to caucus for Ron Paul. I'm not sure how our house number got on their list, since we're both registered Democrat, but they looked kind of befuddled and took back their literature when I said we'd be at the other caucus.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Excellent, excellent article on student voting. I can't say I'm surprised that Clinton or Dodd or anyone who isn't Obama would say that, afterall they want to win, but it's sad that they'd try and disenfranchise perfectly legitimate votes like that.

I think the 'Iowa first' rhetoric is also PRECISELY why Iowa's status as the first voting state needs to go the way of the Dodo. Only Iowa residents get that kind of voice and attention paid to their issues? What about out of state students going to school in Iowa? They have issues too! I hope this story gets onto the major networks so we can shed some light on this.
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
I have to agree that college students should vote where they are from, and not where they are going to school. That is, unless they legally become residents in the college towns and renounce all rights given to citizenship of where they were from. Dual citizenship is too easily a mark for fraud.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
Bull. If 90% of your time is spent there, you should have a vote, and the law allows it.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Occasional:
I have to agree that college students should vote where they are from, and not where they are going to school. That is, unless they legally become residents in the college towns and renounce all rights given to citizenship of where they were from.

Oh, please. If I move to NY for two years, regardless of whether I change over my driver's license or do anything else, I have the right to re-register to vote there (and then re-register in California when I move back two years later).

Besides, the rules for residency in any given state (there's no such animal as "citizenship" of a given state) may vary from that of other states.

You are only allowed to be registered in one state at a time. But that state can be any state in which you currently maintain a legal residence. And college students who choose to register in their college's state meet that criteria.

Moreover, it is only fair that college students be allowed to vote for laws that will almost certainly affect them -- often disproportionately to "locals."
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
Also, for local elections, college students are going to know a lot more about the politicians and issues in the state of their school. Are you saying they should have to research their home state's candidates and turn in absentee ballots for those elections too?
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
I'm with Rivka on this one. It's ridiculous that they are trying to disenfranchise college students attending school in Iowa.
 
Posted by Launchywiggin (Member # 9116) on :
 
quote:
In 2004, after several students at the College of William & Mary ran for city council in Williamsburg, Virginia, the local register declared four students did not live in town and could not run for office or vote there.
2 of my friends were part of the students at W&M who tried to become more involved with the local politics in Williamsburg. They faced stark opposition, because the only people that live there are hard-nosed old people that resent the college for all its young people.

It turns out that it really was just a stunt for a poly sci class, but when mtv and the national news got a hold of it, they didn't back down.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Occasional:
I have to agree that college students should vote where they are from, and not where they are going to school. That is, unless they legally become residents in the college towns and renounce all rights given to citizenship of where they were from. Dual citizenship is too easily a mark for fraud.

What, so students should have to fly across country to their hometowns if they want to vote?
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
In many states absentee ballots would be an option, but your point stands.
 


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