You are having a life saving surgery performed by a graduate from the best school in the world for medicine. You also know that this school practices affirmative action in the following: whites and Asians get preferential entrance, blacks are neutral, and Hispanics are actively discriminated against - they have to be far above average to get in.
You choose your doctor based on race alone. Which race do you choose?
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Hispanic, since we know that all Hispanic graduates of this school are good. This of course assumes I believe the school's entrance criteria are really measuring skill.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I don't care about their entrance criteria. I'm looking for the honors degrees.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
AHAH! The answer is Jewish!
It was a Jewish joke right?
:ducks tomatoes:
Posted by Seatarsprayan (Member # 7634) on :
quote:You choose your doctor based on race alone.
*I* don't.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
I don't care what race my doctor is, as long as he/she is "one of the good ones."
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
Asian!
hee hee hee...
Posted by Speed (Member # 5162) on :
quote:Originally posted by Phanto: whites and Asians get preferential entrance, blacks are neutral, and Hispanics are actively discriminated against - they have to be far above average to get in.
I've got to go with an Asian or a Hispanic. I've got significantly more faith in any race important enough to be capitalized.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
How is this an analogy?
Posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick (Member # 9302) on :
Where's the Arabs? Do they count as Asians?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Here's a confounding factor: under the new ethnicity rules used by high schools and colleges, "Hispanic" is a "culture or ethnicity" that is tracked independently of race. This means that you can be a Hispanic Pacific Islander, or a Hispanic half-Asian, half-Black.
Posted by Starsnuffer (Member # 8116) on :
Assuming we take the affirmative action to say that the any hispanic who gets in despite being actively discriminated against is clearly that much better than everyone else I'd go for the Hispanic.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick: Where's the Arabs? Do they count as Asians?
You'd have to have seen the movie In Bruges to get this reference but...
"The BLACKS!"
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Here's a confounding factor: under the new ethnicity rules used by high schools and colleges, "Hispanic" is a "culture or ethnicity" that is tracked independently of race. This means that you can be a Hispanic Pacific Islander, or a Hispanic half-Asian, half-Black.
Under some definitions I am Hispanic because I grew up speaking the language. I forgot it when I was 5, and relearned it in my 20's but still.
Posted by dantesparadigm (Member # 8756) on :
I think the lesson here is: be yourself.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Here's a confounding factor: under the new ethnicity rules used by high schools and colleges, "Hispanic" is a "culture or ethnicity" that is tracked independently of race. This means that you can be a Hispanic Pacific Islander, or a Hispanic half-Asian, half-Black.
Yeah. One of the dumber things Congress has come up with. Which is saying something. Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:Originally posted by pooka: How is this an analogy?
That's my question as well.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
I think Phanto meant hypothetical. =P
By the way, I have no answer, as I really don't care about their race. I like Tom's first answer. I want my doctor to have performed well in school as well as having active experience in the operation or procedure, I don't care about their entrance criteria to school.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
Do you know what they call the guy who got straight Cs in medical school?
Doctor.
I want the guy who has the most experience performing my procedure successfully. Regardless of his race or his schooling.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: You'd have to have seen the movie In Bruges to get this reference but...
"The BLACKS!"
I've seen it but I don't remember when the reference came up... I guess I'll have to see it again, not that I mind. Posted by Jhai (Member # 5633) on :
I was hoping this would be a discussion of the use of analogies in rhetoric or argumentation.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by MightyCow: Do you know what they call the guy who got straight Cs in medical school?
Doctor.
Doubtful, actually.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
I just figured that we would find out what the opening post is an analogy *to* after a few people had already stated their opinions.
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: I don't care about their entrance criteria. I'm looking for the honors degrees.
Same.
--j_k
Posted by Starsnuffer (Member # 8116) on :
Why would anyone say they don't care about race... The opening post implies that in this instance race is directly associated with the quality of the doctor. To say you don't think race is important here is like saying you don't think the quality of your doctor is important, or, alternatively, that you don't think the affirmative action was implying that people of differential skill levels were being doctors based on race.
Posted by Christine (Member # 8594) on :
It's all well and good to try to not care about race but the fact is that in this particular analogy, we know exactly one thing about our choice of doctors: The preferential treatment offered to them based on race. We don't know what grades they made in medical school. We don't know how skilled they are with a scalpel. We don't know their religions.
I like to go with my best odds. Given these limitations, that means a Hispanic doctor.
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