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Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
The full "Squirrel!" scene...
 
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
I actually wasn't that impressed, but historically I haven't been that impressed by Pixar stuff pre-actually-watching-the-movie. I'm sure it'll be good, it's just a matter of is it "Cars" good or "Wall-E" good.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
is there a canadian hulu, i find loading my proxy program annoying.
 
Posted by Earendil18 (Member # 3180) on :
 
I liked it. They captured what I think the dog is saying in his head. The repetitive, short memory span nature of speech == lols. [Smile]
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
Hulu does not work for Canadian residents, sorry.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
Hulu does not work for Canadian residents, sorry.

Correction: it does not work for canadian residents without proxies.
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
Didn't Blayne already mention the bit about proxies? [Smile]
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
I think this is going to be the best animated movie in a while. Monsters was good, but a bit too blah among the good parts.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
This movie looks good.

BTW Raymond, is Cars good > Wall-E good, in your opinion? I'd pretty much put those at a tie, I think.

Toy Story, Monsters Inc, and The Incredibles set the the gold standard, I think.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Monsters, Inc. > Wall-E > The Incredibles > Toy Story 2 > Finding Nemo > Toy Story > Cars > A Bug's Life
 
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
Most Pixar Films are of pretty uniform high quality. Cars, Finding Nemo and A Bug's Life are my least favorite. Not because anything about them is "bad" per se, but they just didn't accomplish anything that hasn't been accomplished better elsewhere.

Apart from those, the two that really stand out for me are

A) the original Toy Story. While later films have outclassed it, it accomplished more for its time than the others did for theirs.

B) Wall-E. While most Pixar films have innovative concepts, Wall-E is the first one in a while that I felt was innovative beyond the ways that Pixar is normally innovative. It addressed several complex issues in a way that kids could appreciate yet still made adults think. Also, the quality of its animation is phenomenal. While the overall production has flaws, I think it's animation is going to be remembered as some of the best animation in the world for a long time.
 
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
I should note that I can't help but rank movies as a "critic" as opposed to someone who just likes movies. In terms of raw enjoyment, I think I liked them all almost equally except for Nemo, Cars and Bug's Life.
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
As for Toy Story, I think it's a rare case where the sequel eclipses the original in terms of quality. Toy Story 2 was not only better animated, but it dared to go in an edgier direction. A mis-matched buddy flick is one thing. Making peace with the inevitability of death? Far more interesting to me.

(And Finding Nemo makes me cry every darn time I watch it. I'm sentimental, okay?)

Edit: Stray "had" removed.

[ May 05, 2009, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: Puffy Treat ]
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
Monsters, Inc. > Wall-E > The Incredibles > Toy Story 2 > Finding Nemo > Toy Story > Cars > A Bug's Life

Ratatouille doesn't even get a spot? [Frown]
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
I haven't seen it, so no. [Smile]
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
Nighthawk is Tom? I had no idea. [Smile]
 
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
I do think Toy Story 2 did some neat things. It was "better" in every way than the original, but the amount of innovation that Pixar required to go from their earlier shorts to Toy Story was not nearly as much as was required to go from Toy Story to Toy Story 2.
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
So, you're confirming that Toy Story 2 required more innovation? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
No, because innovation is measured by how far something is improved beyond whatever the status quo was before.
 
Posted by Earendil18 (Member # 3180) on :
 
Incredibles > Finding Nemo > Ratatouille > Toy Story 2 > Wall-E > Bugs life > Toy Story > Monsters Inc.

The graphing of these movies might as well be a horizontal line though. [Wink]
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Raymond Arnold:
I do think Toy Story 2 did some neat things. It was "better" in every way than the original, but the amount of innovation that Pixar required to go from their earlier shorts to Toy Story was not nearly as much as was required to go from Toy Story to Toy Story 2.

The reason I asked is, you worded it like you think Toy Story 2 -was- a greater improvement. [Smile]
 
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
Oh, crap. Right then. [Smile]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I wasn't all that impressed with Ratatouille, but I'll add it in. [Smile]

Monsters, Inc. > Wall-E > The Incredibles > Toy Story 2 > Finding Nemo > Toy Story > Cars > Ratatouille > A Bug's Life
 


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