Now with magic tattoos instead of paintings.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
No spoilers: Thumbs up or down?
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
I didn't actually pay attention.
And this is from a guy who bought the first season dvds as soon as they came out, and watched religiously through the first few seasons...
Um... Sylar was rather funny? It seemed somewhat better written?
Peter used his power in a more fun way?
Hiro did as Hiro does?
Matt was angsting about junk again?
The blonde chick is still around, as shown at the end of last season, after being killed, like, a dozen times?
Claire was kinda pointless as usual?
Bennet continues his loss of first season coolness?
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
Okay. Sounds worth at least trying to watch.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
Sorry, Heroes. I ain't falling for you again.
Thrice bitten, finally shy.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
I'm fine with watching it for popcorn fun if nothing else, unless/until it reaches a point where even that is worthless. (although... last year I watched with my roommate and we made fun of it together. Now I'm living at home where it looks like we won't be able to watch it live, and watching it by myself on Hulu doesn't lend itself as well to ridicule.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
VAGUE SPOILERS, SORT OF...
Actually the quality of the writing DID seem a little better than last season. I only caught part of last night, about the last hour or so, and I was interested. Peter wasn't an idiot, and actually used his powers in an interesting way, the new characters weren't one dimensional, in fact they were somewhat interesting. The Sylar and Matt stuff was interesting too.
In all, I wasn't planning on watching at all this season, but this first episode has me at least hopeful.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
I refuse to watch unless someone who has seen at least 13 episodes tells me it is worth it.
My love is not unconditional!
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
quote: The blonde chick is still around, as shown at the end of last season, after being killed, like, a dozen times?
Claire's power was apperantly inspired by Ali Larter personnally, the woman cannot be removed from the show. And if anyone else remembers the duscussion that Strauss had with the doctor responsible there were three Larter clones tossed out into the world, she has one more life left. The carnival represents a story that they hadnt attempted yet, sure The Company was run by specials but in malevolent way with no empathy towards the younger versions of themselves, whereas the carnival is by and for specials specifically. What exactly they have at stake is still unknown and just what theyre willing to do to achieve those goals as well mysterious, but it adds a new prism to the heroes world.
Im unsure of the college girl, Ive seen her work before but this character seems a bit thin, and seeing as shes directly linked to the Claire story I hope this changes.
As far as HRG is concerned.... HRG is not human and he does not know fear. But I have no idea who this Noah Bennet is, and I dont like him.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
The first Ali Larter clone already died (she was Jessica, Nikki's sister).
I think so, anyway.
I actually appreciated her more as the pseudo bad guy she became at the end of last season. I doubt they'll kill her off now but I wouldn't be upset if she remained as the villainess in this season and then gets killed off at the end.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I keep getting a NULL pop up when I try to watch it at NBC.com
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I see its because Americans suck and dont let streaming video work outside of the states.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Raymond Arnold: The first Ali Larter clone already died (she was Jessica, Nikki's sister).
No, Jessica died young and became Niki's split personality. This is the third of the triplets, Tracy.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
I assumed Jessica, Nikki and Tracy were the three triplets, and Jessica and Nikki lived together and Tracy went somewhere else for some reason.
Anyways, I just tried watching this. I got about halfway through... and just couldn't bring myself to care. There actually were several pieces of it I thought were pretty good when taken in isolation, but it all felt like I'd seen it before.
There were a few isolated incidents of good/fun acting (I like Claire's "I told the truth. Ish.") that reminded me of first season, but they weren't enough.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Wait. I thought there was a Barbara. There isn't a third sister floating out there?
That never made any sense to me. Okay. There are genetically engineered triplets - Niki, Tracy and Barbara. They are all adopted and Niki ends up in a random family where her non-biological sister, Jessica, is so identical to her in every way that even she can't tell them apart in the mirror? Then Jessica dies (we know she was real, we saw her grave) and Niki takes on her personality.
It makes no sense.
Why couldn't they just make them quads?
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Really? That's what they're really going with?
That's... even stupider than the darned triplets thing, and that's saying something.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
Ah crap, are Castle, House, Heroes, and The Big Bang Theory all airing on the same day of the week this season?
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
Eh. They've intrigued me enough to keep watching for now, but just barely. Interesting to see Bagwell from Prison Break (don't know the actor's name), and I'm curious to see what happens with Hiro.
Tracy's character just might be interesting this time around.
Oh, and Peter seems to have possibly sprouted a few brain cells which is a nice change. That combined with his now limited power could make him the compelling character he's had the potential to be from the beginning.
Posted by Christine (Member # 8594) on :
I will not be fooled again!
The only way I'll watch season 5 is if someone tells me that Hiro gets his powers back -- minus the nose bleeds. He was the only character worth watching and they messed with him.
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Um... he did actually go back in time this week.
But he's having trouble again, of course. As normal.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
Honestly, Hiro is the shows biggest problem. There's a reason they keep messing with him - it is not physically possible for him to be intelligent and powerful and for there to be a compelling storyline. Period. Either he has to act like an idiot or he has to be continuously gimped.
Granted, they keep doing BOTH, so... yeah.
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Hmm. Possibly if they had an evil time traveler who was smarter than him go back there and actually physically prevent him from changing the present, and in fact causing the present problems in the process, it might be interesting...
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
Actually, that's a pretty good idea. I didn't finish the episode, but I got up to a point where some guy did seem to be visiting Hiro in the past. I'm not sure if that was along those lines or not.
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Yeah, I'm not sure what was up with that either.
However, if you have Hiro and an evil time traveler battling throughout history, you could have some interesting events without changing the present.
Hiro essentially preventing the villains from winning, but being unable to win himself, because they match each other. It'd be good for a season-long adventure, but if that was the case, the gimmick would only work a single season.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
Well yeah. The challenge with Hiro is coming up with a different contrived scenario each time to at least keep the variety up. (3.0 tried "turn him into a 10 year old child" which was just about the dumbest end of the spectrum I anticipate them trying.)
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Indeed.
He's got a power that really is too strong for its own good.
I know they stressed it from the beginning, but with its use from time to time it becomes less clear that, well, this power, the time travel part at least, needs to be not just incredibly hard to use, but something that has huge disadvantages always.
You don't go to the time you want unless you try really hard, and then you can't get back easily. It's hard to aim properly, which has been shown and all, but it needs to be stressed.
"I can't go back in time to just change something from yesterday. Because I can't accurately control it, and perhaps I won't be able to even stay there long enough to do any good."
Kind of like in season one. Like when he went back in time to save that girl, and then totally failed, and kind of had to come back the long way because he couldn't go back to the present easily.
Second season's "I want to stick around and fix things" isn't a good enough excuse, except that when he went back to the present, he wasn't able to go back to the exact same time he intended, and thus missed a ton. But going back to try to fix it was far easier than it should have been.
Third season... well, did he even have much difficulty then, other than lame excuses? They could have easily stuck with "it's really hard, and when you go back in time you will NOT go precisely where you intended!"
Heck, Future Hiro from first season spent YEARS trying to figure out how to fix things. Five years, and then going back he still had difficulty. That level of difficulty, where Hiro has to spend an entire season trying to figure out WHAT to change in the first place, and the threat isn't even whether he succeeds once he goes, but whether he can find out what to change in the first place?
That might be helpful.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
But... little Hiro was so cute!
The storyline did kind of suck, though, even if Hiro's mom was one of the best characters I'd seen on the show in a while.
Anyone else missing Worf as President?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Hiro's nosebleeds arent bad if he can get an injection from blood from claire.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
Okay, I finished watching it and I like it better now, so long as I pretend that Hiro (and probably Claire) don't exist.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I'm wondering if the Hiro we saw in the first season, the one who wore black, had a sword, came from the future, and spoke excellent English with no accent will ever appear again, or if he's been destroyed by subsequent meddlings with the time line. We know that he existed in many different time lines, up to the point where Ando zapped him with his magic red lightning stuff.
At this point, I'd be okay with current Hiro being magically replaced by future Hiro that we thought was a badass.
Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
Yes please. Have Hiro mess with the past and accidentally erase himself from the timeline to be replaced by the badass Hiro.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: I'm wondering if the Hiro we saw in the first season, the one who wore black, had a sword, came from the future, and spoke excellent English with no accent will ever appear again, or if he's been destroyed by subsequent meddlings with the time line. We know that he existed in many different time lines, up to the point where Ando zapped him with his magic red lightning stuff.
At this point, I'd be okay with current Hiro being magically replaced by future Hiro that we thought was a badass.
Nono the Hiro Ando zapped was our Hiro just with a sword.
Posted by Christine (Member # 8594) on :
Yeah, they already got there before me. There have been many very powerful and reasonably intelligent superheroes in books and movies....even compelling ones. The trick is to give them a challenge that lives up to their abilities, not to dumb them down and give them random nose bleeds.
But I think the biggest weakness with Heroes all along has been that there are too many heroes with wildly different levels of ability that have never come together in any meaningful way. They are still each on their own petty journeys. I thought last season they would try to build toward X-men, but it didn't happen.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I think the problem with X-Men in our discussion of Heroes is that the X-Men seemed to be able to take a lot more punishment than the average person and still come out relatively unscathed, whereas in Heroes, you have to break bones and bleed. Furthermore, they had aliens, sentinels, and a host of other baddies that the X-Men could use for powers fodder, but it's also human on human in Heroes.
We need some sentinels to mow down. Or those robo-soldiers from Genosha.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
Inherent problem with that is this little thing called the "special effects budget." That said, I think they're heading in a good direction for this season, setting up the Carnival as a host of various superhumans who will at least temporarily play the roll of villain.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
did the girl claire was rumored to be having a schoolgirl lesbian relationship this season die already or is that the other girl?
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
I was assuming the other girl (ironically I had heard nothing of the rumors but was getting that sort of vibe from them anyway). So far I'm trying to decide whether the remaining girl is incredibly creepy or not. She's all gung ho about solving the murder, but somehow I get the impression she might have been the one to kill the over-achiever-girl, in a weird effort to get closer to Claire.
I only really got that impression during the scene when she came into Claire's room and sat on the other girl's bed (moving in on the territory). Since then... I'm not sure. But something about her just strikes me as off. (Could just be mediocre acting).
I actually WANT to like the new girl (she's funny and cute in a nerdy way) but something just creeps me out.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I'm praying she becomes a Yandere, they're awesome AWESOME characters, see Yuno for details.
...okay, that seems more creepy and annoying than awesome to me, but to each his own.
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Indeed.
Though of course, deeply creepy characters have their place.
Not that I suppose the incessant tvtropes links, however.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
Sylar is deeply creepy but in a way I love. The new girl is borderline creepy in a way I do not. (Right now she's not that bad, she either needs to become creepy in a cooler way or less creepy, IMO)
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
The girl-on girl rumor started at Comic-Con, during the Heroes QnA and people are asking whatsername why she was up there and Panatierre fielded the question mostly and well... I dont think the girl is all that good at un-scripted statements and the crowd took thier own assumption as to what she meant by "Claire's finnally got a good friend, a really special friend for once" I wouldnt be complaining if they did get together. Atleast it would be one way to explain why whatsername is so lurky.
Posted by Geraine (Member # 9913) on :
MY thoughts on the first episode:
Claire: Useless character. The problem is they cant get rid of her because she is immortal. Good game on that one
Bennett: Almost gets drowned, gets sliced up, and is divorced from his wife. Sounds like the writers hate him.
Denko: The one character I HOPED would come back and have some sort of power is now gone forever.
Matt: Love that he is back with his family, but way too much tripping out. I could have lived with half that much "Fight Club" esque dialog.
Nathan: The premier had the perfect amount. Not a ton, but just enough.
Hiro: As long as he uses his powers to go back and save Charlie, I'm cool with it.
Robert Kneppers character/carnival posse: I like them. I don't think they are evil, just doing what they feel is right for survival or the world.
Angela Petrelli: She annoyed me in this episode, because she seemed desperate. In the past seasons she never seemed that desperate.
Sylar: Less Fight Club, more Head slicing please.
Baby Matt Parkman: Cute kid
Water Boy: Made me want to watch Encino Man for some strange reason.
Peter: Finally he is being written well again. I really hope he is everntually able to absorb more than one at a time and raise his power level to OVER 9000! (I couldn't resist)
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
the new guy at the carnival did he have 2 powers?
Posted by Unmaker (Member # 1641) on :
Can we just kill everyone but the carnies off and have a new show centered around them? Everything else about this program sucks. My kids and I continue watching it just to make jokes about how stupidly convoluted it's gotten.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by Unmaker: Can we just kill everyone but the carnies off and have a new show centered around them? Everything else about this program sucks. My kids and I continue watching it just to make jokes about how stupidly convoluted it's gotten.
Your Mileage may Vary.
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Why on God's green earth did you capitalize mileage and vary in that sentence?
Or right. It's capitalized on tvtropes. Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by 0Megabyte: Why on God's green earth did you capitalize mileage and vary in that sentence?
Or right. It's capitalized on tvtropes.
Boom Headshot.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: Sorry, Heroes. I ain't falling for you again.
Thrice bitten, finally shy.
I stopped watching in the middle of last (or was it the season before last -- I forget) when i realized after watching an episode that not only did I no longer know who was on whose side, but that I didn't even care.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
I think the second half of season 3 (i.e. volume 4) was pretty decent all around. I think if Hiro would just either grow up or die the show as a whole would be able to improve dramatically.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: Sorry, Heroes. I ain't falling for you again.
Thrice bitten, finally shy.
I stopped watching in the middle of last (or was it the season before last -- I forget) when i realized after watching an episode that not only did I no longer know who was on whose side, but that I didn't even care.
That's exactly what happened to me.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
It sorta happened to me, except that instead of stopping watching it period I just started watching for comedic value. That hinges on watching it with a particular quality of people though.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
when'll the new episode be up! Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Raymond Arnold: It sorta happened to me, except that instead of stopping watching it period I just started watching for comedic value.
I can't even do that anymore. I don't know. The show just started feeling like too much of a drag and you could just feel the characters painfully revert to two-dimensionalism.
I just want to sit back, watch these threads, and have the series pass on with what dignity it has left.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
I'm enjoying it.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa: I'm enjoying it.
Well, yeah. You said these exact same words for second season as well.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I very much wanted Heroes to be a good show. Season 2 was pretty bad though, and I think I abandoned ship halfway through it.
Sad to see it hasn't gotten any better.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
Well if initial reviews are any indication, the new season appears better written than the previous seasons. caveat: so far, etc etc
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Aside from Lisa you guys suck, c'mon melodramatic much? If a show upsets you don't watch it, if you have nothing better to do watch it.
The season finale pissed me off with the ultimate audience sucker punch of coconut superpowers but I'm glad to see what appears to be a solid story coming together, it was very impressive.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: If a show upsets you don't watch it...
The season finale pissed me off with the ultimate audience sucker punch of coconut superpowers but I'm glad to see what appears to be a solid story coming together, it was very impressive.
So it upset you... and you've continued to watch it?
People are allowed to be mad at a show for sucking. If they get invested in the characters and series and feel like it's falling apart, it can be really frustrating.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
they're acting like their dog died or something or that they just got slapped or something jeez.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
You've never had a show you really care about suddenly start sucking in a slow, agonizing way that keeps giving you false hope then dashing it against the rocks, to an extent that made you genuinely upset?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Pokemon?
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Just saw episode two, Parkman is currently my favorite character for things I hate to see happen to people. And creepy girl is slightly less creepy, so thats good.
Sometimes I think Tom Kring didnt expect the show to last this long, that he thought the show would have joined the pile of cancelations that NBC already has plenty of, and maybe thats why so many characters are (or were) so powerful. Claire cant die, but shes a wuss who can only protect herself with a taser, IF she has the drop on you. Peter was the most powerful of all and he couldnt think his way out of a paper bag. Hiro could have gone back in time and told his father about every last thing and solved so many problems by nipping them in the bud with years of deliberation before they even happen. And Sylar, aside from his continual off again on again power situation his mania is actually enough for me to understand why he isnt overlord of the entire world.
And it seems like Micah is stuck in the webcomics, what a waste of an awesome power.
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
quote:You've never had a show you really care about suddenly start sucking in a slow, agonizing way that keeps giving you false hope then dashing it against the rocks, to an extent that made you genuinely upset?
The X-Files anyone?
What Heroes needs is actual change. For them to grow and form proper, long-term connections with each other. The characters have remained in the same groups they were in to start with. Peter & Angela, Matt & Janice, Claire & Noah, Hiro & Ando. Just as it was in Episode 1.
Very few of them have real relationships with one another outside of their original groupings. Mohinder & Matt or Peter & Claire seemed to be becoming real friends once upon a time, but that's all gone now. When Claire has a problem, she doesn't ring Hiro, because they're still basically strangers. If Peter died, Matt wouldn't grieve.
It's hard to care about what happens to the characters, because they don't care about each other. When something happens to them, it doesn't have much impact.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
When the heck does the new bloody episode appear on NBC!? Claire finally kisses a girl this episode! Feed me NBC feed me!!
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
...finally?
We've been anticipating this?
Sigh.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I do find that the writing and visuals for this seasons ARE significantly improved from last season, however girl on girl action is hot and that takes priority if done right.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
ITS GOVERNOR SHERIDAN! (actor for Captain/President Sheridan from babylon 5 again!)
Damnit, turns out that was originally a season preview.
[ October 06, 2009, 05:08 AM: Message edited by: Blayne Bradley ]
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vadon:
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: If a show upsets you don't watch it...
The season finale pissed me off with the ultimate audience sucker punch of coconut superpowers but I'm glad to see what appears to be a solid story coming together, it was very impressive.
So it upset you... and you've continued to watch it?
People are allowed to be mad at a show for sucking. If they get invested in the characters and series and feel like it's falling apart, it can be really frustrating.
But dude, the characters have never been all that deep. It's a fun show, with some cool powers and some action. If you're looking for Firefly or Dollhouse, you're going to be disappointed. If you honestly thought the characters were utterly compelling and are only now being disappointed, then you're probably living in another dimension and won't see this post.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I do not understand how anyone continued to watch Heroes after the last episode of the first season, during which every audience member was given the giant, NBC finger.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
And how exactly were we all given the giant NBC finger? I must have missed that.
It's amazing how some people take entertainment so personally.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I just feel like they copped out on a "real" ending in favor of continuing the series, which violated the build-up in the previous episodes. I can understand why they did it ($$$$) but that doesn't mean I'm going to trust them to entertain me again.
And I'm assuming that your "some people" refers to me, so I'll come right out and say that I do take entertainment personally. That's because so much of it succeeds by directing the emotions of the viewer/reader/whatever, and if I feel my emotions are directed some place unexpected and unappreciated, I have every right to be upset and to choose not to watch/read anymore.
Besides, entertainment is such a broad category. Think of all the movies whose plots revolve around making the audience absolutely miserable, only to save them with a happy ending. What if the happy ending falls short, and you're left feeling miserable? I've seen too many poorly-made movies and read too many terrible books that did exactly that, and I took it seriously. It's like paying for a roller coaster ride that goes up and up and up, and then makes you get off before it coasts back down. You're left with a lot of unresolved tension that is very physical, and it's not healthy, and it's not enjoyable.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Who needs to watch the episode when i can simply loop this forever?
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
that looks way more awkward than sexy to me, although that probably makes it significantly more realistic.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by Raymond Arnold: that looks way more awkward than sexy to me, although that probably makes it significantly more realistic.
And thus more sexy! Porn is like 99% fake this at least does a much better job at seeming real even though duh being actors also fake.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
So the carnies are officially evil, and will probably be slaughtered by new Sylar, his original power has already started and the hunger is only so far away. The kiss wasnt as surprising as it was funny, but I still dont like lurky-girl.
It would be pretty funny if this is how Sylar turns into season 3 future Gabriel, all boy scout and emotional after they want him to kill and misuse his powers.
Posted by Avatar300 (Member # 5108) on :
I pretty much changed the channel everytime there was a scene without Peter or Gabriel/Sylar. The Claire scenes are just so boring.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Yeah but its important to the carnival story-line, and the carnival is obviously the culmination tie-in. So soon in the season and its already so obvious..... but atleast we get to watch Parkman go crazy.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I liked the music-sonic power scenes as very visually compelling and for a while misleading in a good way, as I was like "ah well, its cool even if her power has no combat potential... BOOM! Oh..."
The Claire scenes even if they arent exciting are at least solidly well written and tie in with everything else furthering season 1's assertion of the connections between the different actors. Also its solid character development and girl on girl action is hot.
The Sylar scenes of course, steal the spotlight but somethings deserve to be stolen.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Oh and the Hogwarts Carnival thing? Totally cool.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
Hmm. Not sure whether I like Gretchen being only normal awkward instead of creepy awkward. Normal awkward means I feel obligated to like or at least feel sorry for her, which is difficult because she's so painful to watch.
I did like the psychologist woman (partly because I liked her previously in Pushing Daisies). I hope she remains in the show for a while before being put on a bus.
quote:It would be pretty funny if this is how Sylar turns into season 3 future Gabriel, all boy scout and emotional after they want him to kill and misuse his powers.
At this point I have no faith in the writers ability to maintain any coherence or connection between previous "future" scenes and current events.
[ October 14, 2009, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: Raymond Arnold ]
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
If you follow all the online comics and everything that you'll know that the future (in the Heroes universe) is always changing, and interaction with the future will always change the coming events to ensure that what was seen is not the outcome. Season 3 "good" Gabriel probably still thought he was a Petrelli, and had an epiphany letting him bury his own power that was causing the madness. I think now that he doesnt view himself as a monster and has already shown a basic human morallity and fear, he has a chance to be good Gabriel, but what would we do without Sylar?
I also enjoyed the psychologist, Im not familiar with her work previously but she conveyed alot emotion and has a very pretty accent.
Does anyone else care that Mohinder is gone?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I do, I hope he comes back.
Right now I think we're heading straight to the first future but with some differences.
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
Okay, definitely NOT a fan of T-Bag doing narrative...
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
But hes Irish! Irish is cool!
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
Or, you know. Would be cool if he were Irish.
What is it with this show and horrible Irish accents? His is still better than that Caitlin girl, though.
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
I'm not a fan of the narration, period. I think it's an all around terrible device used by way too many shows. Occasionally there's a show that uses it effectively for a few episodes, but most of the time it's just reiterating information that either you already know or doesn't matter much at all, trying to make something feel deeper than it really is.
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
Best show with heavy narration: Burn Notice
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
True.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
new episode, very tragic more evidence to Samuals anti villain nature.
And poor Mat. And Good job Sylar please don't kick the dog!
And yay! More Les Yay! Its gradually building up!
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I found this little gem
quote:# Rescued From The Scrappy Heap: Volume Five is trying its hardest to do this for everyone. (And it seems to be succeeding for several characters so far.)
"# Running Gag: Killing Nathan in each Season Finale
* Oh my God you killed Nathan! You bastards! "
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
MARLE TO OUR CHRONO!
OH MY GOD I AM SO NERDED OUT RIGHT NOW THIS IS AWESOME WHY AM I YELLING!?
Shoutout to Chrono Trigger!
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Woah did whats his name kill who I think he killed!?
Posted by Geraine (Member # 9913) on :
So Hiro saved Charlie but didn't save Charlie because T-Bag the D-Bag trapped her somewhere.
I understand that a lot of fans wanted Charlie to return and for Hiro to save her, and they effectively did that without needing the actress to return for a recurring role. (She is on Glee)
On a side note, was I the only one that was yelling at Bennett not to cheat on his wife? I've come to respect his character a lot over the past few years, and that would have forever tainted my opinion of him.
It was also good to see Isaac and Eden again. I really wish Eden hadn't died, she was one of my favorite characters in season 1.
The only thing that still bugs me about the show is from Season 2, when Caitlyn gets trapped in the future. Peter says he will come back for her, but it is never mentioned again. I know her accent was annoying, but I would like some closure.
And I am ecstatic that Sendhil (Suresh) will be back next episode. I was beginning to wonder what happened to him!
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Mohinder? I like Mohinder too but I'm surprised hes the Scrappy to most people.
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
I liked Mohinder a lot until he randomly became a psychotic cold blooded murdering bugman. After that, the actor seemed to get (understandably) depressed and started phoning in his lines. I'd be glad to see him in passing, but I think TPTB ruined that character pretty completely.
As for Bennett, the power of that character was that he was so evil most of the time, but such a white knight for his family. It would be horrible if they retconned that element of his character.
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