This is topic My group's newest music video!!! (3 million hits and rising + CBS, NBC and CNN) in forum Books, Films, Food and Culture at Hatrack River Forum.
we all can't stop clicking the refresh button checking for views...(I think it takes time for youtube to refresh the view count).
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
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AHHHHH
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
It's hard to be famous. Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
Wonderful. Very nice! =)
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
Sooo funny!! I'm sending this to all my Jewish friends. Great job.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
The Jerusalem Post and a bunch of local papers want to do a story on us!!!
We're now at 70,000 hits!!!
This is insanity.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Post the links when they're published if they're online. I'd be interested in reading them. I'd buy your album but I don't do iTunes. You guys on Amazon?
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
That was fantastic. Well done.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: Post the links when they're published if they're online. I'd be interested in reading them. I'd buy your album but I don't do iTunes. You guys on Amazon?
Yup. Will do. (Thanks!)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: The Jerusalem Post and a bunch of local papers want to do a story on us!!!
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Fun stuff Armoth!! It was enjoyable enough to listen to several times. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a Hanukkah classic.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
You'll be there soon enough with a Huffpo mention -- you just went viral. Mazel tov! Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Rounding from the sevens isn't rounding up that much is it? Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
If you search candlelight on youtube and look at the viewcount in results it gives you a more accurate count. It takes longer to update in the actual vid.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Weird. You'd think caching would be the other way around. Anyway, it's over that on the video itself now too. And the huffpo piece has been retweeted almost 500 times already.
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
It's Hammer time!
Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
Congratulations!
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Congrats! My most viewed youtube video is a Michael Jackson cover, and it has 70,000 views after almost two years, I think.
So well done!
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
What a fun video! Very well made.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
My co-worker enjoyed it very much. (Also the "If Men Played Cards as Women Do"-type sketch from the same YouTube uploader.)
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
Alright. It's official. You've gone viral, at least according to my book.
I'm sitting in the grad student computer lab, which is usually a sacred place of peace and quiet, when I hear the faint sound of music coming through headphones. I turn to glare at the offender and lo and behold, it's someone watching your music video.
Small world.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
FB'ed.
By the way, I'm loling at the latke spatula.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
You're over 200,000 now!! Wooo!!!
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
This morning, I counted 6 different facebook friends that posted it on other friends' walls. None of them found out about it from me. Congrats man, it's famous. Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
You guys should definitely go up against New Directions and Vocal Adrenaline.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Great articles. I'm so excited for you guys!
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
I'm interviewed in the jpost article.
A little bit of news:
Sunday morning we will be appearing on CBS 2 new york (the local news channel for the tri-state area) later in the week we will be appearing on CNN and NBC.
If anyone can figure out how to delay Fordham law finals, let me know.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TREMENDOUS SUPPORT!!!!
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
That's awesome! Let us know, if you can, when and where we should go to watch you as you light up the news circuit!
It's amazing how fast these things snowball. I wonder if you'll hit the talk show circuit next. This seems like the kind of thing that Ellen would really like.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
This is very cool, Armoth. Congratulations!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: If anyone can figure out how to delay Fordham law finals, let me know.
1) Find an old DeLorean. 2) Find Doc Brown. 3) Profit!
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
I'm curious where else you initially "seeded" this. When you first posted here and I clicked the link, there were about 200 hits.
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
Dude, I love it!
May I suggest a collaboration with my favorite Jewish artist, MC Paul Barman? Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
Great video. Gonna add it to my facebook. I'm going to have the chorus stuck in my head for the rest of the night.
Straight No Chaser got their break with a youtube Christmas spoof. Now they've got a bunch of albums and get played in retail stores.
Can't wait to break out the "we knew them when..." stories.
Posted by LargeTuna (Member # 10512) on :
I worked at a Jewish Summer camp as a CIT, and our cheer we made up (for fun) was partially to the theme of Dynamite.
They've all been going crazy over this on facebook and how amazing this is!
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
I'll have the chorus stuck in my head because my children have been singing the chorus all night. Thanks.
And congrats on becoming a sensation!
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I just find it ironic that you go to a Catholic law school.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I can top that.
My rabbi TEACHES at a Catholic law school. Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Yeah. Yeshiva University has medical and law schools, but they are more like Jew-friendly (holidays and such). My experience at Fordham hasn't been very Catholic.
Tom - We sent it around to every Jewish music blog we knew - once it built up among Jews, and going viral on that level, we started sending it out to anyone and everyone. I have a friend who has a friend who works at Huffington Post.
JPost randomly contacted us, we didn't speak with them.
But today, the calls came in from NBC, CBS, CNN, NYPost, etc.
This is utter craziness. Thanks everyone for being so awesome! The best part of this is friends/family who are going through this with all of us. You don't know how much it means to me that I show up on hatrack and see a maccabeats thread. Blew my mind.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
HuffPo is unquestionably what took it viral. (I said as much at the time, neh?)
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Awesome Armoth!
(Also now I can't get the chorus out of my head.)
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
It's up over 450,000 this morning. Quite a night for Maccabeats. At this rate, how long will it take to beat the video you are parodying.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Now over 500,000 and rising.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
The video they're parodying is up around 3 million (definitely reachable). The song that both those videos are based on is up on the 50 million range (not so much).
Great video Armoth, I've watched it a few times, and passed it along to my family who also loves it.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:The video they're parodying is up around 3 million (definitely reachable).
I wonder how many hits the Mike Tompkins video is getting because of the Maccabeats video. I can't be the only one who hadn't seen it and probably never would have had it not been for the Maccabeats.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
For those of you in the tri-state area, check out CBS2 at around 5:40
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Rabbit: I can't be the only one who hadn't seen it and probably never would have had it not been for the Maccabeats.
You're not!
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: For those of you in the tri-state area, check out CBS2 at around 5:40
I'm guessing you don't mean Illinois, Wisconsin and Indiana, right?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Thanks for everything guys. Emotionally and physically exhausted right now...
Going to NBC tomorrow morning
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Direct link! Much better.
How did tonight's concert go?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
It went great. Insanity. We performed Candlelight live and was awesome. Off to NBC!!! Wish me luck!
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Good luck!
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
And now the guy I share my office with just pulled up CNN.com and evidently you're on the front page. So now I'm listening to it. Again. :-)
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
And here is the clip from the Today Show this morning.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Your youtube video has over 850,000 hits now. If this keeps up through the remaining days of Hanukkah, you should pass the video you are parodying.
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
Mazel Tov!
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
*tongue in cheek* Well, I guess Jews really do control the media. Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
You need to totally plug Hatrack.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Originally posted by JanitorBlade: CNN's coverage.
Mazel Tov!
Why, do you suppose, they never mention "Light One Candle", in litany of Hanukkah songs? Perhaps it would interfere with their point that decent Hanukkah songs didn't exist until the past few years.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Probably because "Light One Candle" isn't a very good song, and moreover is only obliquely about Hanukkah.
Posted by ambyr (Member # 7616) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Probably because "Light One Candle" isn't a very good song, and moreover is only obliquely about Hanukkah.
It has "Maccabee children" in the opening line; how much more direct of a connection do you want?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
They're otherwise pretty much irrelevant to the lyrics. In fact, the song hints pretty strongly that no one else has to suffer like the Maccabee children did, because the great peacemaker has since come; I'm pretty sure that comes close to mocking the point of the holiday.
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
This song is way, way too catchy.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:They're otherwise pretty much irrelevant to the lyrics. In fact, the song hints pretty strongly that no one else has to suffer like the Maccabee children did, because the great peacemaker has since come; I'm pretty sure that comes close to mocking the point of the holiday.
Either you don't know the words to the song or you have grossly misunderstood them. There is nothing in the song about how no one else needs to suffer because the great peacemaker has come. In fact, it says just the opposite in several places. The lyrics were written by a Jew and the message is on maintaining a personal obligation to create peace and justice. While the song does ask for "The wisdom to know when the peace makers time is at hand", the context makes it pretty clear that "peace maker" means "us". Here is a link to the lyrics.
Key phrases include:
quote:Light one candle for those who are suffering The Pain we learned so long ago
quote:What's the commitment to those who have died? We cry out "they've not died in vain," We have come this far, always believing That justice will somehow prevail; This is the burden and This is the promise, This is why we will not fail!
If the song isn't to your taste, fine, but don't make claims about the lyrics unless you've actually bothered to find out what they are.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Probably because "Light One Candle" isn't a very good song, and moreover is only obliquely about Hanukkah.
Since the article went on and on about bad "obliquely Hanukkah songs like "I have a little dreidel", I don't see how this offers an explanation.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
There are many good Chanukah songs.
They're just in Hebrew or Yiddish.
The average English-only speaker is not aware of "Light One Candle", Rabbit.
[ December 03, 2010, 02:15 PM: Message edited by: rivka ]
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
You guys were on the main page of CNN when I checked it today. Congrats!
Posted by Godric 2.0 (Member # 11443) on :
Wow. Great song, and really well made video. Good job!
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: The average English-only speaker is not aware of "Light One Candle", Rabbit.
Really?? By "not aware" you must mean "not aware its about Hanukkah" not "never heard it". It's the only Hanukkah song I've ever heard played in public places. In places I've lived, its been part of the standard Holiday muzak, the token nod to the fact that Christmas isn't the only "Holiday" people celebrate.
I never heard "I have a little dreihdel" until this past week.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
IME (and this does come up in conversation regularly this time of year, both IRL and all the various places I am and have been online), people know the dreidel song, the Sandler song, and have a vague notion that there are some others but don't know any of them.
I have NEVER heard "Light One Candle" played on the radio or in the mall, although I did learn it in school as a child. It was one of the two English Chanukah songs we learned. Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
I guess this is just one more evidence of how out of touch I am with pop culture.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I just did an informal poll here in the office: I was the only one of sixteen people who'd heard "Light One Candle" at all, and that was only because I'd sung it once at a holiday event twenty years ago.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Tom, one assumes (hopes?) you had heard it prior to singing it, neh? Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I just listened to "Light One Candle," never heard it before. Sounded nice, though not particularly special, and I'll probably never hear it again.
We learned a couple Hanukkah songs when I was in elementary school, but I can't really remember them now. I always liked Hava Nagilah, it's catchy, but I don't think it's a holiday song.
It's really too bad there aren't more Jewish holiday songs. I know Jewish religious music can be beautiful, I've heard a lot of cantor music that blows my socks off, and moves me on a level, even though I have no idea what's being said, that 99% of Christmas music doesn't. I also wonder if there isn't something to be said for the benefits of not going mainstream/commercial like Christmas has. On the one hand, it has total commercial dominance over Hanukkah, but, it's also become a cheap, vapid plaything for corporations.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: It's really too bad there aren't more Jewish holiday songs.
You realize now, of course, that I'm going to pester you for translations on all these now?
Edit to add: I like the first song in this video. I tried to find longer versions of it, assuming it's supposed to have a longer version, but there aren't any good ones. Sounds like a Russian/Eastern European folk song too, which might be part of what I like it so much.
[ December 03, 2010, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: Lyrhawn ]
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
Yes, I went to a Jewish Orthodox high school and we only knew of the Dreidel song and the Adam Sandler song.
I think you guys should be really proud of yourself.
Portraying the ancient practice in a friendly manner is from my perspective what might be termed (using Orthodox Jewish terminology) a "kidush to the Lord;" the exact phrase you likely know but I'd rather not write online.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Lyr, that's Yimei haChanukah, and I think it's actually Israeli, not European. That link has (a loose) translation and transliteration (and an American singing ).
It also has an English version, but I rather prefer the Hebrew.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Cool thanks!
I prefer the Hebrew as well (and a non-American singing!). Sounds kind of awkward in English.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
The Hebrew version is definitely the original.
(And the link has a bunch more Chanukah songs, most with translation and transliteration.)
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: It's really too bad there aren't more Jewish holiday songs.
So, I heard a rumor you'll also be performing on Chelsea Lately...?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
You guys should aim to get onto the Colbert Report.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Can someone spell out for me phenenically the hebrew you say in that song? Niscadolh Ayashem?
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
Nes gadol, nes gadol Nes gadol hayah sham
From the lyrics page.
Posted by Shawshank (Member # 8453) on :
The vid's actual page has listed over 1,000,000 now! Good job!
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
Wow, amazing!
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
I went to an open skate night here at Cornell, and your song was on the speakers as part of the music mix. Wow, man. Congrats!
Posted by Shawshank (Member # 8453) on :
Also one of my old high school teachers just posted this on facebook.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
OVER 9000!!!!!
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Armoth is now officially too famous and busy to update his thread title. Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
Over 1.3 million. I finally watched, very catchy. And Armoth is cute Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
At my kids' school on Friday, the whole school sang Candlelight during their Kabbalat Shabbat. And when I came home Friday afternoon from work, my kids were singing the song.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Sorry, last post for the night - but this one is too amazing not to post...
No apologies, no restrictions. Keep posting the good news!
Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
You have some real fans here: ImAMother. Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
Just wondering, did I miss where Armoth explained the significance of the astronaut? I watched the Matisyahu cover (awesome, btw!) and that video had an astronaut as well.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Elsewhere (including the link CT supplied above) it said that member of the group is from Houston.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by CT: You have some real fans here: ImAMother.
That was hilarious reading. We better protect Armoth, he's far too eligible now. Some shiksa might steal him away from us!
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
I saw that comment and its what prompted my question. It seemed like a good answer but I wasn't sure if it was the real one or just a guess.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Shanna, it's hard to find the coverage from before the new video, but there was an article last year (two years ago?) that talked about where each of the members was from, and I do think one was from Houston.
And it would be the local Heights paper that answered my question: yes, that IS Ft. Tryon Park!
[ December 05, 2010, 01:52 AM: Message edited by: rivka ]
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by CT: You have some real fans here: ImAMother.
That was hilarious reading. We better protect Armoth, he's far too eligible now. Some shiksa might steal him away from us!
1) That forum is full of religious, Jewish, women. 2) Armoth is hardly likely to date a non-Jew.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Also, the rest of these folks may be impressed that you met Mattisyahu.
I think it's incredibly cool you got a call from Rabbi Sacks! Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shanna: I saw that comment and its what prompted my question. It seemed like a good answer but I wasn't sure if it was the real one or just a guess.
yup. That's pretty much the reason. Not an Ilan Ramon reference, although if people want to read that in, they're free to do that
Noey Jacobson is indeed from Houston
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by CT: You have some real fans here: ImAMother.
That was hilarious reading. We better protect Armoth, he's far too eligible now. Some shiksa might steal him away from us!
1) That forum is full of religious, Jewish, women. 2) Armoth is hardly likely to date a non-Jew.
Truth.
I appreciate it though!!!
I can't seem to stay asleep...I have to be up at 5AM to head out to CBS...too jittery.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by CT: You have some real fans here: ImAMother.
You read imamother?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I suspect she found the thread via Google.
Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
I am up on all hip things.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
<snicker> I honestly never thought of imamother as "hip".
Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
Lisa, I am being tongue-in-cheek, although I am sure they are delightful posters.
Yes, it was Google.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
There are about 142,000 hits for candlelight maccabeats on Google. That's pretty darn impressive.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
BTW CT, the site is not I'm A Mother (although that is the implied pun). It's Ima Mother -- Ima (pronounced ee-mah) is Hebrew for "mother".
Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
hah!
And me a longterm poster. How did I miss that? Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
It's on Yahoo's front page news feed today. :-D
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Now you've made me register onto Colbert Nation....
If you do go on the Report/Daily Show please be sure to plug Hatrack and hint something along the lines that it would be really great if Orson wrote Shadows In Flight sometime this century Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: I'm just trying to figure out how to leverage all of this into meeting Orson Scott Card
There's an obvious solution to this. The problem, as I see it, is that OSC has pretty much given up signing tours. He almost never does signings anymore outside his home state or ones directly adjacent. (See this month's list, for instance.)
So what you need is Maccabeats fans in NC who want to bring y'all out for some event in NC that coincides with an OSC signing.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Any idea as to why? I'ld have thought he would've been constantly going to ComicCon's at the very least and I've been hoping he'ld visit montreal for years.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
You know what's crazy?
4 years ago, OSC wrote about a group called "Straight No Chaser" that pretty much inspired me to commit as much as I did to my acapella group. SNC became really popular with a famous Christmas medley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8). It's insane to be here 4 years later...
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
quote:Any idea as to why?
Have you been to a book signing? It seems like something that would get really boring, really fast. Since Card has done hundreds of them, I can't imagine they're still fun to him. Maybe his reasons are totally different, but that would be my thought.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I think he actually enjoys the signings themselves (although they are exhausting). The traveling all over takes time and energy away from his family and his writing, and he told his publisher several years back he wasn't going to do it anymore.
It makes me sad that he doesn't do signings in L.A. anymore (it used to be one of the usual stops almost every tour), but I can completely understand the choice.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by CT: You have some real fans here: ImAMother.
That was hilarious reading. We better protect Armoth, he's far too eligible now. Some shiksa might steal him away from us!
1) That forum is full of religious, Jewish, women. 2) Armoth is hardly likely to date a non-Jew.
I had misconceptions. I was told a long time ago that a Shiksa is just Yiddish for female, but your post has since sent to wikipedia where I learned that it means a female gentile woman, or a nonobservant Jewish female.
Now my joke isn't as funny. Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Dude! I just saw your vid on Yahoo home page, congratulations.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Thanks
We'll be on CBS's Early Show tomorrow at 8:30am
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
(Post Removed by Janitor Blade)
That was a tasteless statement AOS, please knock it off.
[ December 05, 2010, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: JanitorBlade ]
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
@ AoS
Figures you'd come into this thread just to spread your poison.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: BTW CT, the site is not I'm A Mother (although that is the implied pun). It's Ima Mother -- Ima (pronounced ee-mah) is Hebrew for "mother".
It's actually a matter of taste, as I understand it. Someone I know on the group once asked, and was told that it was originally intended to be ImAMother, but a lot of women call it ImaMother. Is that not the case?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*shrug*
I'm not a member, and so I only know second-hand. But I have several IRL friends who are regular posters, and this is what they told me.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
SNC is great, and I love their shows. We were going to see them in Orlando, but we weren't able due to a death in the family.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Great performance, the song has really grown on me a lot even after something like 20 listens.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Very nice.
*suppresses comments about people taking LoAs from school*
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
haha, Uri hated medical school. I'm glad he's leaving to do something he is passionate about. A bit jealous, in fact.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
The youtube comments continue to amaze me.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: haha, Uri hated medical school.
Nonetheless. Finishing would serve him better, long run.
Of course, I wish him well, regardless.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
I think that may be my favorite article so far.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
really? how come? it was my least-favorite interview to do.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
1) Didn't perpetuate the notion that there is "no good Chanukah music". 2) Actually talked about what Chanukah is about. 3) Gave context and background. This one is big for me, and something most articles these days fail to do. This article did a great job of it.
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
Watching the CBS performance now. DVRed the whole show and am fast-forwarding to the good parts.
Great performance and great interview. So well-spoken and genuine.
Posted by Minerva (Member # 2991) on :
I'm curious if you've sold a lot of CDs/iTunes songs.
I love the video, we went to a Shlock Rock concert motzi Shabbos and everyone was talking about it.
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
Our local NBC news station just included this video in the program!
So cool!
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I wonder, do you make money every time a news station plays the clip?
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I'm confused by the blooper reel. At no point do we see Armoth checking Hatrack.
Posted by CT (Member # 8342) on :
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by PSI Teleport: I'm confused by the blooper reel. At no point do we see Armoth checking Hatrack.
LOL. Next time.
I'm not sure about payment for when it's played but I do think we're getting an appearance fee.
I watched Sing-Off last night. You were missed.
Posted by dem (Member # 2512) on :
Just thought I would add that I am using the video, along with a trivia question about the Menorah, for my line-up at the end of each class’s trip to the technology lab (1st-5th grade). They love it! Of course, some of them are adamant that it is a total rip off of 'Dynamite'.
The veterans were expecting SNC-12 Days, as I have played that each of the last 3 years. They will get that next week, but great to have a song that all the kids like that hits home to about 15% of our population.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Now that you and your friends are viral, you have been insulted by a meme. Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by dem: Just thought I would add that I am using the video, along with a trivia question about the Menorah, for my line-up at the end of each class’s trip to the technology lab (1st-5th grade). They love it! Of course, some of them are adamant that it is a total rip off of 'Dynamite'.
Doesn't count as a ripoff if credit is given.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by AchillesHeel: Now that you and your friends are viral, you have been insulted by a meme.
I don't think so. That's just based on the original Dynamite.
But it inspired me, so here's my ode to trolls:
Cyberblight by Lisa Liel
I’ll tell a tale tale tale tale Of cyberspace's biggest fail fail fail fail When a talkback's getting stale stale stale stale I take the comments off the rail rail rail rail Yeah, yeah,
I'll yammer on and on and on Until all sanity is gone Yeah-eah
I like to troll the internet sometimes Saying ayy ohh I'm an a**hole Just posting "First!" can make me feel so fine And I never Shut my pie hole
I say it's photoshopped I say that he's a fag I say that I hate Jews I say she's on the rag
And when I get thrown off Because I'm such a pain I make a sock puppet And I shout "First!" again
I like to troll troll troll troll Getting reactions is my goal goal - goal goal I irritate you to your soul soul soul soul 'Cause I have no constructive role role role role Yeah, yeah,
I don't care how inane I sound You'll never stop me comin' round Yeah-eah
I like to troll the internet sometimes Saying ayy ohh I'm an a**hole Being obnoxious makes me feel so fine And I never Shut my pie hole
I say the movie blows I say that he can't act I say their voices suck I tell you that's a fact
And when you disagree It's you that I'll attack And if you get me banned You know that I'll be back
It's a great temptation To tell me just shut up and go away But it's that frustration That makes it worth my while just to stay
'Cause taunting you Is all that I came here to do (Don't feed the troll Don't feed the troll) When you acknowledge that I'm there It shows me that you really care care care care care care...
[bridge]
I say it's photoshopped I say that he's a fag I say that I hate Jews I say she's on the rag
And when you disagree It's you that I'll attack And if you get me banned You know that I'll be back...
[ December 07, 2010, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: Lisa ]
Posted by dem (Member # 2512) on :
I know it isn't a ripoff...just thought it was funny to have 2nd graders jumping all over it. They know that they are not allowed to copy someone else's work, so this is a hard distinction for them to get.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Teaching moment! Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:Originally posted by JonHecht: I wonder, do you make money every time a news station plays the clip?
Nope. Even if there was money to be made from such a play (which there isn't when it's an internet video), the money would go to the writers and publishers.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang:
quote:Originally posted by JonHecht: I wonder, do you make money every time a news station plays the clip?
Nope. Even if there was money to be made from such a play (which there isn't when it's an internet video), the money would go to the writers and publishers.
But Armoth is the writer. At least he wrote the lyrics. I have no idea who would be considered the publisher.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Co-wrote the lyrics.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
He's not the original writer. Parody can be (and likely would be) given a derivative work copyright in this case. So Armoth would be a writer, along with the original writer(s). Either they or their publishing companies would likely hold the publishing. But since I doubt he registered the copyright or registered the work with a PRO before it blew up he's not going to get paid. And since the vast majority of the exposure if from youtube, he wouldn't have anyway.
In any case, it doesn't change my answer: the performers don't make money when a video is played on TV from the internet. If there's money to be made, it goes where I said it did.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
quote:(which there isn't when it's an internet video)
If they only show a clip, then there's no money to be made, but it has nothing to do with it being an internet video -- it's because using a clip in a news program is square cut fair use. For the full video, legally there needs to be a license involved (unless it is fair use -- but it wouldn't be for a typical news program). As an internet video, they only gave permission to the places they uploaded to to distribute it, plus whatever other permissions were in the ToS. Unless they allowed in those terms the sorts of massive redistribution by another source (in this case, a television broadcast), there needs to be a license for that.
quote:the money would go to the writers and publishers.
Also, this is not the default legal state, just the typical contractual arrangement in the music business. Since I doubt there's such a set of contracts governing the production of the music video, anyone contributing creatively to the process (which is, presumably, everyone in the video, and probably a few other people) has at least some share of the copyright, and were any royalties accrued, would be due a share.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Your song inspired me to make Latkes the other night. I did not try to flip them in the air, though. I use a cast iron skillet and my wrist's not strong enough to flip stuff from it. The Latkes were particularly tasty with tamarind chutney.
[ December 07, 2010, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: The Rabbit ]
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:Originally posted by fugu13:
quote:the money would go to the writers and publishers.
Also, this is not the default legal state, just the typical contractual arrangement in the music business. Since I doubt there's such a set of contracts governing the production of the music video, anyone contributing creatively to the process (which is, presumably, everyone in the video, and probably a few other people) has at least some share of the copyright, and were any royalties accrued, would be due a share.
That's interesting. Can you source that, or point me in the direction where I can do some reading on my own. My knowledge of copyright with regards to video is pretty secondhand, and since I plan to do a music video or two in the future I'd definitely like to read up a bit.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
I copyrighted the lyrics along with David Block, my co-author. We registered in ASCAP and will be getting royalties from radio-stations and the like who are playing our song.
That's pretty funny. The linked female blogger was also quite amusing.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Doesn't YouTube have pay accounts where they put up ads for videos with high view rates, and then pay the person posting the video?
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
They have what they call partner accounts, and the account owner gets paid a portion of the revenue from the ads on their videos. But they get no control over the ads.
And, last I heard, to have any hope of getting accepted into their partner account you need about 5000 subscribers and a lot of original content.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: I copyrighted the lyrics along with David Block, my co-author. We registered in ASCAP and will be getting royalties from radio-stations and the like who are playing our song.
Nice! I'm ASCAP, as well.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa: I watched Sing-Off last night. You were missed.
We tried out for this. They really liked us. They couldn't get over the Orthodox thing - and kept asking us what it was like, not touching girls.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
That's kinda creepy.
And damn, I missed the show last night. Maybe it's On Demand.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
What is it like, not touching girls?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
It's not fun. Probably why we get married so young.
Posted by adenam (Member # 11902) on :
I wonder where that guy got his proposal idea from?
Look who he has as backup!
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
quote:That's interesting. Can you source that, or point me in the direction where I can do some reading on my own. My knowledge of copyright with regards to video is pretty secondhand, and since I plan to do a music video or two in the future I'd definitely like to read up a bit.
There's nothing particularly special about video copyright vs anything else. Copyright in a work is always, always, always owned by the people who created it, unless it is transferred under certain specific conditions: either work for hire (which has a very specific, narrow meaning), or a contract. Here's the relevant bit of US law: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap2.html
Some important quotations:
quote:(a) Initial Ownership. — Copyright in a work protected under this title vests initially in the author or authors of the work. The authors of a joint work are coowners of copyright in the work.
quote:(c) Contributions to Collective Works. — Copyright in each separate contribution to a collective work is distinct from copyright in the collective work as a whole, and vests initially in the author of the contribution. In the absence of an express transfer of the copyright or of any rights under it, the owner of copyright in the collective work is presumed to have acquired only the privilege of reproducing and distributing the contribution as part of that particular collective work, any revision of that collective work, and any later collective work in the same series.
Now, there are some legally established clearinghouses (that interact with the mandatory licensing requirements unique to music) for rights typically associated with music and the like, that are intended to make it easier to secure rights and ensure payments, but any rights holder is legally able to obtain payments.
quote:(2) For licenses granted under section 106(6), other than statutory licenses, such as for performances by interactive services or performances that exceed the sound recording performance complement —
(A) copyright owners of sound recordings affected by this section may designate common agents to act on their behalf to grant licenses and receive and remit royalty payments: Provided, That each copyright owner shall establish the royalty rates and material license terms and conditions unilaterally, that is, not in agreement, combination, or concert with other copyright owners of sound recordings
Note key words such as "may" and "unilaterally". This doesn't apply for their video, of course, but it does apply to the audio track treated separately. Now, many uses fall under the "statutory licenses" section above, but playing on a news broadcast wouldn't. In the case of a statutorily licensed playing, the payments are split up in a funny way, but the first split goes to the rights holders (who are, as related in the first quotation, whoever created the work or had the rights transferred to them):
quote:(A) 50 percent of the receipts shall be paid to the copyright owner of the exclusive right under section 106(6) of this title to publicly perform a sound recording by means of a digital audio transmission.
That's only for sound recordings, note. Video copyright is just basic copyright, pretty much. Even sound recording copyright does not have much resemblance to what a lot of people in music and music recording think it is -- I've met a recording professor from IU who did not know that the performance right was nothing but a sub-right of copyright!
Posted by Shawshank (Member # 8453) on :
That's pretty awesome still. Nothing like having a musical proposal uploaded to youtube.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Canceled so I could "study" for finals.
Those would be the finals you have this week, neh? How are those going?
First one is tomorrow. The other two are on Monday and Tues of next week. I feel pretty prepared for the one tomorrow. I haven't started studying for the ones on Monday and Tues of next week. My friends have all been really kind in giving me their outlines.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Good luck!
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Off to CNN... (Tune in at 7:50)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I go to a small, private Christian university, and one of my professors showed us in our 600 level theology class your video describing it as his "new favorite Hannukah song." He said he's listened to it about three times a day since it went viral.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
I didn't think it was interesting. I think they are wrong. Our song isn't just about generic latke-flipping, we mention the important themes of channuka, and even a return to Torah learning.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Off to CNN... (Tune in at 7:50)
I watched. I actually thought John King and the other guy, whoever he was, were rude. They had you on, didn't really explain what the fuss was about, talked about football over you while you sang, and then at the very end sort of tacked on a question or two.
I thought the best interviews with you really played up the fact that 1. This phenomenon is great for Jews because of the excitement it causes, and the fun it brings to the holiday. 2. The song is actually educational, it tells a story of the holiday. 3. The personal story about you guys, the things you're studying, and the whirlwind out-of-nowhere aspect.
They barely introduced you, talked over you, and then asked you questions as an afterthought when they fool finished pretend break dancing.
On the other hand, you guys sounded great! It's amazing that you guys can manage to sound so great while singing in what looked like a pretty cold outdoor location.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Yeah, I've been pretty impressed by the live versions of the song. But, then, I'm a freak for A Capella. (Still have all my old Rockapella cassettes. )
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
I didn't think it was interesting. I think they are wrong. Our song isn't just about generic latke-flipping, we mention the important themes of channuka, and even a return to Torah learning.
That's what I love about it. Other than the sound and the performance, I mean. The fact that it's a Hanukkah song that actually mentions the war with the Greeks. Honestly, I can't think of a single other Hanukkah song that does that. And you managed it without it sounding bellicose, which I certainly never could have done.
You should be justifiably proud of what you've done, Armoth. I can't think of a single Hanukkah in my lifetime where there's been such incredible pirsumei nisa. Maybe ever, really.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I didn't think it was interesting. I think they are wrong. Our song isn't just about generic latke-flipping, we mention the important themes of channuka, and even a return to Torah learning.
I didn't say I agreed with it.
I don't. In fact, I had an interesting conversation about it with the person who pointed it out to me. I rather think the blogger has it completely backwards. (Actually, having since read some of his other blog posts, I think he has many things backwards.)
I still found it interesting.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Thanks. It WAS cold, and we can't understand why the various stations think it's so great to have us singing out in the cold...
Believe it or not, but out of all 4 live tv stations we did, (the 5th is WPIX tomorrow morning, but whatever), CNN was the least professional. They didn't really communicate well with one another, or with us, and they planned for that segment to be a lot shorter than it was. What you didn't see behind the camera was the camera man signaling the bald guy to go much longer on the segment, which is why I got interviewed, and why Uri was brought in and then out.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: They barely introduced you, talked over you, and then asked you questions as an afterthought when they fool finished pretend break dancing.
Ugh. Totally agree with Lyr on this.
They were incredibly lame.
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Thanks. It WAS cold, and we can't understand why the various stations think it's so great to have us singing out in the cold...
And early in the morning or well after dark, too! *shiver* Man, I'm cold just watching the CNN snippet.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Thanks Lisa. Means a lot. Really.
Rivka - sorry. Getting defensive. Although reaction to the video and song have been OVERWHELMINGLY positive, there have been people who manage to hate on it.
It bothers me tremendously, because I feel like if they knew us, as individuals, they would know we are sincere in our Judaism. But, of course, when you're dealing with 2.3 million people, you're bound to bother someone...
Thanks for all the positive comments guys. Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
I feel bad for the rest of the group. My coat is warmer than theirs...
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Thanks. It WAS cold, and we can't understand why the various stations think it's so great to have us singing out in the cold...
Believe it or not, but out of all 4 live tv stations we did, (the 5th is WPIX tomorrow morning, but whatever), CNN was the least professional. They didn't really communicate well with one another, or with us, and they planned for that segment to be a lot shorter than it was. What you didn't see behind the camera was the camera man signaling the bald guy to go much longer on the segment, which is why I got interviewed, and why Uri was brought in and then out.
Maybe the poor planning explains the really weird vamping they were doing, and the poor explanations they gave.
Any word yet on Jay Leno?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Leno is booking us either for later this month (I doubt) or for next year (::shrug:
I heard a rumor that the person who is in charge of booking @ Colbert doesn't likes us...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Rivka - sorry. Getting defensive.
Understandable. Sorry, I was hit-and-run posting -- I should have waited until I had time to comment.
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Although reaction to the video and song have been OVERWHELMINGLY positive, there have been people who manage to hate on it.
Yeah, I know. I thought this was interesting because it was at least nuanced. Most of the other negative reactions I have seen were anything but.
I keep telling myself to STOP reading the YouTube comments -- I know better.
Instead, I should brag to another person at work that "I know one of those guys"! Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Leno is booking us either for later this month (I doubt) or for next year (::shrug:
I heard a rumor that the person who is in charge of booking @ Colbert doesn't likes us...
This seems like the kind of thing that Colbert (I mean Stephen himself) would really love.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: I heard a rumor that the person who is in charge of booking @ Colbert doesn't likes us...
You don't happen to have a name for this rumored individual? I have a cousin who used to be a booker who still has some connections, I think.
[ December 08, 2010, 12:35 AM: Message edited by: rivka ]
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
You know you'd think with Jews controlling the media and everything, an Orthodox Jewish singing group wouldn't have any trouble getting on any show they wanted. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Dancing babies! (My favorite was actually the one he labels #3.)
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
You mean Baby Rowan? Little kid had some moves.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
No, that's his #1. I liked the kid in the highchair best.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Oh the head bobber. He was cute too. And he really wanted that spoon!
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Thanks. It WAS cold, and we can't understand why the various stations think it's so great to have us singing out in the cold...
The last on-air I did was in Sacramento. Our call time was 6am, and we played at 7am. After having four hours of sleep and setting up in the cold, it was not the ideal time to play. I definitely sounded exactly as I would've expected, and I'm the only one singing when I play.
And yes, stop reading youtube comments. Nothing good can come from it. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: And yes, stop reading youtube comments. Nothing good can come from it.
I know, I know!
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
This will dramatically improve your quality of life. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I already have that extension.
I keep clicking "show". Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Also, the 2.5 million mark has been passed.
The Mike Tompkins version has about 3.2 -- I expect y'all will catch him by the time Chanukah is over (i.e., Thursday evening).
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
quote:I can't think of a single Hanukkah in my lifetime where there's been such incredible pirsumei nisa. Maybe ever, really.
QFT
quote:
Rivka - sorry. Getting defensive. Although reaction to the video and song have been OVERWHELMINGLY positive, there have been people who manage to hate on it.
YouTube people can be quite mean; thick skin is key.
People can say whatever about your work - ultimately, it doesn't matter as long as you are OK with it.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: I already have that extension.
I keep clicking "show".
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Good for you guys. I am really excited for you!
I DO have one question for you though....where are the Hatrack shoutouts?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
One of us is interviewing for a radio station in Utah at 4:15. I feel like it would be the perfect place for a hatrack shoutout, unfortunately, Uri might be doing the interview.
Re: youtube comments. It isn't so much youtube as it is bloggers in the Jewish world. I mean that it that world, response has been positive, but there are certain people who are anti.
Yerachmiel Begun (The head of the Miami Boys Choir, a big established choir in Jewish music) used to love us. Now, he sent an email to all the major Jewish blogs as for them to take down our video because he watched Taio Cruz's dynamite and it sickened him, and he is upset that we are penetrating Jewish culture with evil disgusting values.
I find it absurd that he didn't think about the fact that our video is perfectly clean, but then again, he attached the Taio Cruz video to SHOW all the Jewish bloggers how pornagraphic the original video was...so...yay logic...
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Armoth: What station are they interviewing on? Please please say it's X96.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
It's unfortunate that some Jews are being so irrationally negative but probably not surprising. Given that there is controversy among Jewish groups over how much secular culture is acceptable and that your group is more liberal (if that's the correct term) in this respect than many, it's sort of expected that some people are going to hate on you.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Rabbit: It's unfortunate that some Jews are being so irrationally negative but probably not surprising. Given that there is controversy among Jewish groups over how much secular culture is acceptable and that your group is more liberal (if that's the correct term) in this respect than many, it's sort of expected that some people are going to hate on you.
Not to mention trees catch more wind than grass. Don't let the grassy folk get you down Armoth. Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Don't know if someone already posted this, but you made the Smart B**s Trashy Books site last week:
You must read the comments. There are women wanting to adopt you guys, and some saying they wish they were 21, and others saying they want to take you home and feed you. And, because it's SBTB, they are also trying to figure out what "flip the latkes" can be a euphemism for! Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Best moment EVER:
Last night we were on the way to dinner after CNN and this dude from Atlanta RECOGNIZES us on the street and was like: OMG ARE YOU GUYS THE MACCABEATS?!?!?! YOU YOU'RE THE LATKA FLIPPER!!!! CAN I TAKE A PICTURE?!?!?!
We were MORE excited than he was that we got recognized.
Armoth, if you had not realized before now that the JO blogosphere is horribly toxic (and even the few exceptions like Hirhurim and c-c get enough comments from the other "name" bloggers that I find reading them easier to avoid), I guess you have now.
It's depressing. Very.
But how cool of you guys to do an impromptu performance like that! Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
Armoth, I have a friend who interns with the Daily Show. I have no idea what kind of pull she has, if any (intern and all that), but I can ask her to do what she can if that's something you're interested in. I know Hanukkah is just about over, and it won't be quite so topical soon, but let me know your thoughts.
Posted by adenam (Member # 11902) on :
The link's not working for me.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
works fine from here.
Posted by adenam (Member # 11902) on :
what's it called? I'll just search for it.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
"Maccabeats - chance meeting on the street"
Posted by adenam (Member # 11902) on :
Thanks
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by Strider: Armoth, I have a friend who interns with the Daily Show. I have no idea what kind of pull she has, if any (intern and all that), but I can ask her to do what she can if that's something you're interested in. I know Hanukkah is just about over, and it won't be quite so topical soon, but let me know your thoughts.
Um, totally! Anything you can do would be great!!!
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: But how cool of you guys to do an impromptu performance like that!
We're pretty giddy as a group now...
We were at dinner and some girl had a birthday and waiters came out to sing happy birthday and we kinda took over - 10 of us sang happy birthday in full harmony...It was really really fun.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I have never ever wished I lived in NYC before.
Even the year I did.
I really still don't. (The cold winters would probably kill me -- possibly literally.) But y'know, a quick transporter trip over for an evening. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
You guys are adorable and fun to watch! Good job!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Hah! My oldest (in 11th grade at a local JO HS) just told me that the Chanukah skit put on at her school yesterday included a rendition of Candlelight. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Rivka, we're going to be in CA in March.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Yay! Concert?
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
CA is big. Where in CA?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
LA. Unless other communities want to bring us in...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Papa Moose: CA is big. Where in CA?
Heh. I thought about pointing that out, but odds were they're coming where the religious Jews are. Highest concentrations are L.A. Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
I don't think they'd have much of an audience around Santa Cruz, for example.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
You never know. There's a Chabad there, after all.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Very cool, Armoth! I think it is great how excited you guys still are, despite how tired you must me of that one song.
You really made that guys day. Maybe his entire Hanukkah. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I'm not sure which is funnier, that the various choices about when to translate conceptually and when word-by-word seem to consistently go with the longer option in almost every case, or that "ay-ho" and "ay ay ay" were the best she could get to translating those bits.
Overall, a pretty good translation, though.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
I'm not sure which is funnier, that the various choices about when to translate conceptually and when word-by-word seem to consistently go with the longer option in almost every case, or that "ay-ho" and "ay ay ay" were the best she could get to translating those bits.
Overall, a pretty good translation, though.
בשביל שמונה ימי הנס?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Ugh. We just prank called by a guy offering us to do the bar mitzvah of his son and open for Justin Bieber. Apparently Michelle Obama was gonna be in attendance...we were jumping up and down, checking out Bieber's rider...until we realized...way too good to be true.
In retrospect, he did confuse his kid's name Troy or Kyle, secret service, riders...pier 60...kinda dangerous...
here is his number, we googled it, see what you find: 216-785-9324
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Lisa, I did say overall.
Looks like a popular jerk. Sadly, I expect he won't be the last.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Armoth: Ugh. We just prank called by a guy offering us to do the bar mitzvah of his son and open for Justin Bieber. Apparently Michelle Obama was gonna be in attendance...we were jumping up and down, checking out Bieber's rider...until we realized...way too good to be true.
In retrospect, he did confuse his kid's name Troy or Kyle, secret service, riders...pier 60...kinda dangerous...
here is his number, we googled it, see what you find: 216-785-9324
Hey, but Lakewood. Sure, it's a different Lakewood, but still.
Posted by lem (Member # 6914) on :
3 million and rising. Congratz. BTW, my 6 year old son has showed it to all his friends. He also read the lyrics with me so he could understand the song.
I know very little about Jewish Holidays, and so this prompted some wiki-study and discussion. Very cool!
Our family is a big fan.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Ours, too. My daughter keeps singing, "I put my candles in my hair sometimes..."
Prompted wiki-study and fire safety discussions!
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
My 13 year old asked a lot of questions the other day about Hanukkah, so we discussed it and I showed her your video. Nice teaching tool, and fun to watch!
She then asked why you were not on the Sing Off, because it is her favorite show right now. Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
You know I was worried for a minute there after first watching that it wouldn't sound as well without the music in the background but after seeing the street performance and similar I am glad and relieved to say you sound just as well or better.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Thanks Blayne. (and everybody else)
The song is actually acapella. There is no music in the background. All those sounds were made with our voices. (sometimes in the live performances you can hear Ari, the redhead who sings "and the great menora" do the synth.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I am now highly confused, I coulda swore there was music in the OP video!
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: I am now highly confused, I coulda swore there was music in the OP video!
That's the cool thing. All those sounds you thought were instruments were actually being made by mouths.
Here is how it's done. If you watch through the end of the song, he shows you a little of what he's doing.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
But there IS still some audio editing?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Yes
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ace of Spades: (Post Removed by Janitor Blade)
That was a tasteless statement AOS, please knock it off.
It wasn't tastelss. It was true. Can anyone here seriously deny it?
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
Considering the last post in this thread was almost a year ago, can anyone here but you even remember what was said?
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
I'm not the one who deleted it.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Yeah, I don't think that's his point.
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
I know what his point is. My point is that it's "Janitor Blade"'s fault that my post is not there to be read anymore.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
No, it's yours. (post edited by JB). JB doesn't just delete things for fun, you know. I'd take HIS word over yours, and I don't doubt it deserved deleting.
[ November 01, 2011, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: JanitorBlade ]
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Oh man...I wanna know what he said...
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
Ace of Spades: I honestly can't recall what your post said anymore, but I stand by my decision to remove it.
Kwea: Please don't insult other posters.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
quote:It wasn't tastelss. It was true. Can anyone here seriously deny it?
A better question: why on Earth should anybody who isn't you or JB care about what your post from nearly a year ago said, given that you decided to complain about it after all this time?
Shocking speculation: it involved Lisa, Judaism, Israel, or some blend of the three and was deemed offensive enough to warrant removal. I don't know where I come up with something crazy like that.
But that's just guessing-I don't actually know. Another good question: why should anyone believe you're doing anything but spitefully stirring up trouble by complaining about a post moderation nearly a year after the fact?
Sheesh.
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
When one person is treated unjustly, especially by someone in authority, other people should care.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
I wasn't asking about the abstract, I was asking about this particular case. 'Care about injustice!' is a suitably vague, grandiose statement that no one can argue against it-you don't even have to prove the elements within it (which, notably, you haven't).
Another thing: when one person, known for screwing with the community at large and individuals within it, does something that smacks of manipulation, people should suspect manipulation.
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: 'Care about injustice!' is a suitably vague, grandiose statement that ...
...doesn't appear anywhere in my post.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dobbie: When one person is treated unjustly, especially by someone in authority, other people should care.
Do you have any evidence AOS's post did not violate the TOS? Or that my removing it was too harsh a response?
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
quote:doesn't appear anywhere in my post.
Yes it is-you gave an example of injustice (according to you), and said everyone should care about it because it was an injustice.
Really, Dobbie.
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
Nothing in that post was: 1.knowingly false 2.inaccurate 3.abusive 4.vulgar 5.harassing 6.obscene 7.profane 8.sexually oriented 9.threatening 10.invasive of a person's privacy or 11.violative of any law.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
BB's a tyrant, you're a martyr. Bad BB! Poor unfortunate AoS, who doesn't have a history of inflammatory, insulting posts at all. I don't know why anyone would doubt you.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Ace of Spades: Your post was abusive, mean, and intentionally so.
Posted by ricree101 (Member # 7749) on :
I still don't quite get the almost year old necro complaint. Was he banned for a while or something?
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
No, he was not.
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
On the plus side, every time I see this thread title I think of the Maccabeats and how awesome their latest video is. So the thread necromancy, like necromancy in the real world, wasn't all bad!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dan_Frank: necromancy in the real world
'Scuse me?
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
What? Does... does that not happen?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
O_o
*backs away slowly*
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
Abusive of whom?
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
ace of spades and dobbie are some straight talk cops and they're gonna bring some order back to this town, justice for little girls, calahannnn, etc
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dan_Frank: On the plus side, every time I see this thread title I think of the Maccabeats and how awesome their latest video is. So the thread necromancy, like necromancy in the real world, wasn't all bad!
aw shucks.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Hey! Stop that right now, you two! We're talking about what a lazy, hypocritical jerk BB is and emphasizing the martyrdom of Dobbie and Ace of Spades! Stay on topic.
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
But they're aaawesooooommee!!!! And adorable.
Posted by Jeorge (Member # 11524) on :
Candlelight is almost up to 6 million on youtube!
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: Hey! Stop that right now, you two! We're talking about what a lazy, hypocritical jerk BB is and emphasizing the martyrdom of Dobbie and Ace of Spades! Stay on topic.
Lazy and hypocritical, no. High-handed and obstinant, yes.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Oh, man, I haven't snort-laughed out loud for a forum gag in awhile! 'Obstinant' is really subjective, but 'high-handed'? Can you point to anything, anywhere, that would characterize either him or his moderation as high-handed? I think if you asked around, you'd be-amazing!-completely alone there.
But then it's not like you're being honest in the first place, hence the gag!
Posted by vegimo (Member # 12618) on :
Re-post it. See what happens.
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: Hey! Stop that right now, you two! We're talking about what a lazy, hypocritical jerk BB is and emphasizing the martyrdom of Dobbie and Ace of Spades! Stay on topic.
Lazy and hypocritical, no. High-handed and obstinant, yes.
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
He was nice enough not to edit your post to correct your spelling of "obstinate," which a more high-handed moderator might have done. Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
That would be pedantic.
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
High-handedly pedantic!
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
Or pedantically high-handed...
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
There was a post that was deleted from another thread on February 23, that may have been construed as abusive.
This one, no way.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
And your word on whether or not your own posts are infractions is good enough...why?
Posted by Jeorge (Member # 11524) on :
Armoth - my wife and I were talking about your videos recently (since this thread came back out of obscurity!) and we were wondering something...
I think I read somewhere (either in this thread or one of the linked articles) that Maccabeats was a university music group...does that mean that the group has yearly turnover as one class graduates and another comes in?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
We originated as a university group. Currently, you have to be a student or an alumnus of Yeshiva University to join. We've taken on new members every year, except for this one (because, at this point, no one is leaving...)
Since the Maccabeats did well, two other acapella groups have sprung up at Yeshiva University, so we feel like we've passed on the torch.
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: And your word on whether or not your own posts are infractions is good enough...why?
Because.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
That's about as good a reason as anything you say!
(This is fun-whine some more, AoS! )
Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: Oh, man, I haven't snort-laughed out loud for a forum gag in awhile! 'Obstinant' is really subjective, but 'high-handed'? Can you point to anything, anywhere, that would characterize either him or his moderation as high-handed? I think if you asked around, you'd be-amazing!-completely alone there.
But then it's not like you're being honest in the first place, hence the gag!
I am being "honest". My post was in no way inappropriate and it should not have been deleted.
Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
Armoth: Just to let you know, I think someone is mining your YouTube subscribees - I've been invited to be friends with two Jewish channels on YouTube. They are SalomonSaysVideo and LoriAlmostLiveVideo. The only connection I can figure is that I'm subscribed to the Maccabeats.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
Thanks - How does one deal with that?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Considering those are probably (from the names) Aish videos, I vote for "be honored". Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
If I had a YouTube channel, I would contact the people using my list and ask them nicely to stop.
I guess I (as the invitee) could contact them and let them know that not everyone who subscribes to the Maccabeats is Jewish ...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by CaySedai: and let them know that not everyone who subscribes to the Maccabeats is Jewish ...
I am certain they know this.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
lol - i just got a friend request.
It's not new to us. The second our video did very well, other Jewish groups that wanted the same viral quality have been hounding us. Every new Jewish thing gets posted on our facebook wall (which I promptly delete). And they even post their videos in comments in our videos.
It's now a popular way to advertise your video as: "Maccabeats are old news - this is better"
or "Better than Maccabeats!!!"
Which...i find hurtful...cuz, u know, i'm not a brand. I'm a person.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Would it really be better if the tagline was "Better than Armoth, who's totally a person!"?
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
You know what I'm saying. There are real people behind this stuff, and you hurt their feelings when you divorce their brand from their personhood.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
You are absolutely right. Nonetheless, you would be well advised to try not to take this sort of thing so personally.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
I'm not taking it SO personally. It's just a unique perspective that I'm sharing with friends.
Posted by Pluto the Plutonian (Member # 12828) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: Hey! Stop that right now, you two! We're talking about what a lazy, hypocritical jerk BB is and emphasizing the martyrdom of Dobbie and Ace of Spades! Stay on topic.
So, still no resolution?
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Funny timing, I meant to look this thread up.
I had no idea the Maccabeats were on Spotify! It was suggested to me today. Got to relisten to a lot of old favorites.
I also thought of you guys because the Sing-Off just started again, and I'm sad you never made it onto the show.
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
Man how did I miss this thread for so long? The video is great! Great job on it, Armoth. I can't believe you have 9 million views. That's crazy!
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Pluto the Plutonian:
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: Hey! Stop that right now, you two! We're talking about what a lazy, hypocritical jerk BB is and emphasizing the martyrdom of Dobbie and Ace of Spades! Stay on topic.
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