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Razputin
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http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20577069,00.html

A couple big names, at least.

Harrison Ford (Colonel Hyrum Graff)
Sir Ben Kingsley (Mazer Rackham)

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Thanks for the link! I'm curious what OSC thinks about these casting choices. There's a statement on the help desk page stating, "all the announced cast so far are good actors in OSC's opinion." But I can't help wondering how he feels, finally seeing his work transformed into a visual reality with these faces...must be weird.
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I'm hoping that the little blurbs about who the people are is not completely accurate. The Bean description is the one that first comes to mind - Yes, by the end of it they were friends, but Ender is not to Bean what Dink or Petra were to Ender.
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Very interesting to see that they've got a female playing Major Anderson. Should definitely make the Anderspon-Graff dynamic different, though.
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Female Major Anderson?
I hoped that Ford will play Rackham.

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[Smile]

I just want to say, they could be puppets for all I care. Thank you Hollywood for finding a way to make this project palatable to Mr. Card, I have been waiting for this for 15 years.

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OMG Harrison Ford for Graff?

Also I really liked their choice for Bean.

I'm excited...

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I was surprised who came up after Fly Molo:

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20483133_20548946,00.html?stitched

I mean...I knew they'd have to make some changes in the screenplay, but this is too much.

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Haha, I looked up the IMDB and there is a kid whose real name is Nonso, I did a double take and had to make sure they hadn't changed Bonzo's name.
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quote:
Originally posted by scifibum:
I was surprised who came up after Fly Molo:

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20483133_20548946,00.html?stitched

I mean...I knew they'd have to make some changes in the screenplay, but this is too much.

LMAOOOO [ROFL]

OMG LINCOLN WAS PUT ON A SPACESHIP AND SENT THROUGH TIME BY RELATIVITY TO SAVE US IN OUR BATTLE AGAINST THE ALIENS.

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It's pretty hard to read Card's review of Hunger Games without reading between the lines and thinking that the director of Ender's Game has given him the shaft and is going to butcher the book:

http://greensboro.rhinotimes.com/Articles-Columns-c-2012-04-04-211530.112113-Hunger-Expectations-16-Gallons-Per-Flush.html

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scifibum
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Wow. The bitterness comes through loud and clear.
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oh gee.. that makes me kinda sad.
I hope the script isn't that bad.

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I think you're reading something into it that isn't there. All indications from cast and crew are that there is major respect for the original EG book, and that there has been insightful communication with OSC on the project. The filmmakers - and many of the actors - are very clearly fans of the book, and OSC has gone on record saying that he feels they 'get it'.
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I hope so. It would surely have been an odd way for him to vent about something like that, but on the other hand it sure sounds like he's fired up about that topic.
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Even so, it could be based on past experiences, rather than current ones.
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How can OSC talk so much about how the movie was a good representation of the book and then go on to say he never read the book?
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quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
How can OSC talk so much about how the movie was a good representation of the book and then go on to say he never read the book?

was thinking the same thing.

made it all sound even more like a personal rant rather than a real review.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pepek:


made it all sound even more like a personal rant rather than a real review.

Which is why I stopped reading most of his reviews a long time ago!
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quote:
Originally posted by BryanP:
I hope so. It would surely have been an odd way for him to vent about something like that, but on the other hand it sure sounds like he's fired up about that topic.

I've heard Mr. Card talk about the perils and benefits of having an author on set long before Hunger Games was released. I'm sure he mentioned it in regards to the Harry Potter movies.
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I had the same question when reading it. Perhaps other members of his family read it and told him what was an wasn't changed in the movie from the books. Still, his authoritative voice doesn't jive with the revelation that he never read them.
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One thing I don't quite understand about an Ender's Game movie: Much of the book is based on inner dialogue, and the thoughts of the characters. How does that translate into a movie? Endless voiceovers?
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Which is pretty much what OSC has stated in the past is difficult about making an Ender's Game movie. When he was working on a script he mentioned using Ender's Shadow to provide more voice to the story.
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K. Well, I hope that this movie turns out well, and even be worth watching for those who read Ender's Game.
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The inner dialogue issue comes up a lot when trying to turn a book into a screenplay. It can change the whole experience of the story.

The way i've decided to look at it is this: it's a movie that's based on a screenplay that's based on a book.

Orson had a vision, and now he has given someone else permission to show us their take on Ender's story.

I'm not going to go into it expecting to see the book.

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This discussion reminds me of the Abyss. Both the book and the movie are good, and in different ways, but when read/watched together they complete each other as no book nor movie can do by itself.

And it really is a question of the strengths and weaknesses of the particular medium. A movie conveys emotion (through acting and music), visuals, and has immediate impact that books can rarely can, and books have a depth of understanding, detail and characters which are nearly impossible in a movie.

A good movie/book combo work together hand and glove to give the audience/reader a more complete experience of the work they depict.

For EG the movie to be a good movie, there will have to be changes from the book, and I have no doubt that some people will be very dissatisfied that there -any- changes, regardless if they are good or bad.

I hope EG the movie doesn't try and be EG the book, as EG the book is already here and wonderful. I hope EG the movie is a good movie, which helps complete the experience that EG and ES started by providing what a book can never have.

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Personally, I would prefer it to be a parallel story to EG, like Ender's Shadow; that way they wouldn't have to change anything (personally, I always found Dink Meeker interesting). Unfortunately, it's probably too late for that, now that the movie's title has been revealed. Despite that, my irrational hopes will continue.
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The difference is that the novelization of Abyss was BASED ON the movie. It's an entirely different situation than going in the other direction.
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IIRC, that's not true...the movie and book were made at the same time...not the movie then the book...the actors got to read it so they knew the back story, and the book would reflect the final cut of the movie.

Yes, EG won't be the same kind of thing as the Abyss.

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Now you've got me curious. I just went to look for my copy, to read the fore and afterword. Couldn't find it, though.
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quote:
Card wrote the novel based on the screenplay and discussions with Cameron. He wrote back stories for Bud Brigman, Lindsey Brigman and Hiram Coffey as a means not only of helping the actors define their roles, but also to justify some of their behavior and mannerisms in the film.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Abyss_*Orson_Scott_Card_novel**

(Won't let me make it an url because there is a paranthasis in the addy for some odd reason)

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Wait...it auto linked for me? Is that a new feature?

http://www.testingtesting123.com/

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El JT de Spang
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Yeah, that tracks with my memory. And doesn't in the least affect the point that I was making, which is that making a movie from a novel is an entirely different process than the other way around.
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I'm glad we agree so thoroughly.
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PeterWolf-- OSC said somewhere that it's kind of a combination of ES and EG.

I'm so excited for the movie!

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quote:
PeterWolf-- OSC said somewhere that it's kind of a combination of ES and EG.
When he was writing the script. Gavin Hood (also the director) is getting the script writing credit but hopefully got some good ideas from OSC's script.
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