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I'm actually kinda hoping they do clone a T-Rex. I'm curious to see which school of thought wins out on just how much of a predator the T-Rex actually was.
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But the danger! I'm just kidding. It could be really cool. It would be tons of tax payer's dollars though.
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Jay--nah, I don't think there's much debate as to the age of the fossil they extracted the tissue from. Sounds like although this one was unusually well preserved, they expect to be able to make similar extractions from quite a few fossils that have already been found.
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Yeah, it couldn’t be a younger fossil cause that wouldn’t fit into the evolution timeline would it?
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Like the founder of Jurassic Park started with miniature elephants? I still don't think that would work......
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I don't know of any evidence to support anything like that Jay--the article certainly doesn't discuss anything of the sort. It gives the fossil's ate at 68 million years. I expect that if it had been found in an unexpected strata or something that in and of itself would have been huge news, don't you?
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Okay, I was just looking at the enlarged picture of the tissue they managed to extract, and found myself musing about what it would taste like. I just squicked myself out.
In my defense, it does kind of look like fried food of some sort.
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Even in Jurassic Park they weren't 100% real, they were mixed with frog DNA. I'd highly doubt they could find enough intact DNA to create a viable sequence that could be cloned. They'd have to get real lucky. Even DNA found in frozen wooly mammoths, which are better preserved and for that matter more recent, aren't viable for cloning.
Still, it'd be cool to see. If they could clone one, I think they should, but I don't think it would tell us much about prehistoric dinosaur behavior, unless we did in fact create a Jurassic park type environment. I believe in the school of thought that depicts T-Rex's as scavangers though, rather than hunters.
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Well of course the article isn’t going to say anything about the possibility of its age not being in the millions of years. That would mess everything up. Yet the faith it takes for something to be so well preserved yet be millions of years old is beyond comprehension. A million years is long enough, but for it to be 68 million years old and still be preserved. GE need to look at this and get it into their freezers.
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quote:Still, it'd be cool to see. If they could clone one, I think they should, but I don't think it would tell us much about prehistoric dinosaur behavior, unless we did in fact create a Jurassic park type environment.
Indeed...and wouldn't that sort of thing be interesting for the whole nuture-vs.-nature thing?
And Jay, dude, just chill out and let us have our dinosaur fun. Posts: 4077 | Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:Well of course the article isn’t going to say anything about the possibility of its age not being in the millions of years. That would mess everything up.
Oh, of course not. Everyone knows that "science" is really just dedicated to fooling the masses and preserving the status quo.
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Noemon, don't you get it? The evolutionists are a psuedo-scientific cult, who ignore any and evidence in their mission to convert the world to their Satan-inspired dogma.
-Bok
EDIT: Dang, you all post too quicky, and yet I anticipated Jay's response pretty well!
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I’m excited about this find. Anything that shows a young Earth is always exciting to me. I’m all for dinosaur fun. Can’t wait for them to make Jurassic Park, but I think a more accurate one would be the Preflood Park. I’m all for science. I just like it to reflect what actually happened in the past. Not what someone wants to think happened so that we can remove God from everything in our lives.
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Yes, I know how much the Pope and the rest of the Catholic church hate God, not to mention those (various denominations of) Christian scientists who find the evidence overwhelmingly in favor of evolution.
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Jay...what if it turns out you're wrong, and the dating is accurate, and the earth is that old? People believe this because there's scientific evidence supporting it not because they want to "remove God from everything in our lives."
Just because you refuse to acknowledge science doesn't mean that the people who do have their heads in the sand--quite the opposite, since they're believing things for which there are empirical evidence.
I see your persecution complex is flaring up again. Let me get you some ointment for that! Posts: 4077 | Registered: Jun 2003
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Guys, in my experience there is really very little use in arguing with somebody with Jay's mindset on an issue like this. He's decided what he thinks is true, and nothing you say to him is going to sway him at all. Seriously, I wouldn't bother.
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Noemon, you're right, I know you're right...but sometimes, you scratch the itch, even when you know you shouldn't. Posts: 4077 | Registered: Jun 2003
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Pfft! Carbon "dating". I suppose that next you're going to tell me that we really made it to the moon!
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Well, gee….. Let’s see… If I wanted to help get religion out of society how would be the best way to go about it. Well, maybe it would be best to start with the foundation. Hit it from the start. Yeah, you’ll still have faithful good people who will believe in God and also say he used evolution over millions of years and that man came from apes instead of being created. But once the next generation comes along they’ll believe that God wasn’t really the Creator, so why belief in him? Sounds almost like what has happened. Sure there’s scientific theories supporting evolution. But there’s also lots of scientific theories for creation too. I don’t deny true science. But the interpretation of facts seems to be a topic of issue.
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Wait, scientists aren't out to destroy god? Damn, now I have to rethink all my previously held beliefs.
Jay - People who think like you care more about the existance of god than scientists do. They aren't trying to disprove god, they are trying to prove their theories right. The fact that you are so threatened by this speaks more to your problem with it than to science's problem with religion. Me thinks the Christian (or whatever you are) protests too much.
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I don't know about that. in each Jurassic Park movie the raptors get smarter. I expect in the next movie they'll be hacking computer systems to escape. I'm not sure I'm ready for a computer virus written by a raptor. Posts: 421 | Registered: Jan 2001
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quote: I’m excited about this find. Anything that shows a young Earth is always exciting to me. I’m all for dinosaur fun. Can’t wait for them to make Jurassic Park, but I think a more accurate one would be the Preflood Park. I’m all for science. I just like it to reflect what actually happened in the past. Not what someone wants to think happened so that we can remove God from everything in our lives.
Ooooh, so that's what happened, dinosaurs died out in the flood.
Well that makes sense, I mean dinosaurs would be hard to get into an ark, unlike animals like lions and tigers and bears (oh my).
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Looks like an uncooked buffalo wing. I can just see it now when they start cloning them, KFD will start up as a spin-off of KFC. Kentucky Fried Dinosaur.
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