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Enderwillsaveusall
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Ok just finished Journeyman Alvin and well i dont no what to say.

It was kind of different from the first 3.

I mean i enjoyed it, the trial and Verily and everything but it just wasnt the same.

Was it because they were published so far apart from eachother?

I dont no what it is but i just cant put my finger on it.

Can anyone explain.

Also im starting Heartfire can anyone tell me if its going to be like Journeyman Alvin? or will it return to the old style of the first 3

[ July 15, 2004, 02:31 AM: Message edited by: Enderwillsaveusall ]

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Nope. It never goes back. There is a distinct difference in...well, I can't put my finger on it. Style? Maybe. Storytelling? I'm not sure.

Anyway, it never goes back to the way that the first three felt. I haven't read Crystal City yet, but I did read the sample chapters...and it didn't seem to be veering from it's course.

I'm not a writer in any sense of the word, nor am I a literary critic. I just judge based on the feelings and thoughts I have while reading...and I must say that in my humble and uneducated opinion, the first three of the Alvin books were 3 of the best books that OSC has EVER written. There is a difference in the next ones. IanO explains it really well in this thread. And the subsequent discussion is also really enlightening and intelligent.

So ignore what I just wrote, and go read that. [Big Grin]

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Back when Alvin Journeyman first came out, I posted a thread -- and it was my first thread on this forum, even before this forum was in fact this forum -- expressing my displeasure. In particular, I objected to the change in voice, the poorly written legal scenes, and the fact that the story now seemed driven by the allegory instead of the characters; people seemed to behaving in ways demanded by the story that Card planned to tell, instead of in ways that seemed natural for the characters he had already established.

A surprising number of people agreed with me, especially after Hearfire came out and suffered from the same problems. It's always a bad sign when the most interesting parts of your book deal with the hero's nemesis (Calvin). Crystal City's a considerable improvement, though.

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Prentice was 1989. Journeyman was 1995. So for starters you are looking at a six year gap. I wonder too if Card's idealism didn't take a battering when his party actually gained power, but little changed. Not that I am admitting that the books are deeply flawed or anything. [Wink]

I am also not familiar with the chronology of events in his personal life that may have consumed some of his edge. I am willing to concede that the edge is lessened, but I don't think that's a bad thing. Well, I see Lost Boys came in that gap. I just feel like some of these threads fail to acknowledge that this is a person we are talking about and not a prized racehorse. I guess I feel strongly enough about this to copy it to the other thread.

P.S. I don't want to delve into the personal life of OSC, about when he dropped out of grad school etc. ad nauseum I see every book as a gift, as the hatrack forum is itself a gift.

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