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Well, I wonder if there is going to be anything Ender's Game the Movie. Though it is too early for Fresco to decide if there is going to be a sequal, or if they were making Ender's Shadow (even though i have heard rumors that EG and ES will be one movie) a movie. Or maybe even other books unrelated to the series. So the question is: If Ender's Game the Movie goes well and brings in alot of money, will books like Speaker for the Dead or Ender's shadow become movies?
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I don't know whether any of the other Ender books have been optioned as yet, but rest assured that if EG does well as a movie, they'll wanna follow it with something.
Studios now follow any moderately successful movie with a sequel. Sequel's have a built in audience, which makes them relatively low risk, as far as movies go.
I would imagine that the Shadow series would follow an EG movie. I don't think the speaker trilogy would make a good follow up, since I classify them as a totally different type of novel.
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I also agree that the ES series would make a better sequel to the EG movie. This would only work if they devoloped Bean well enough for people to want to see him again. Mr. Card is also thinking of making a pre Speaker book. I think this might make a good seguel as well.
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I think the Shadow books would make for an okay sequel, but only if enough characters were developed in the EG movie to support the plot.
I'm also holding out for the pre-Speaker book DW mentioned (currently titled Ender in Exile) because that has the potential to be a sequel to Ender's Game unlike either the Shadow books or the Speaker trilogy.
(Of course, it has virtually unlimited potential right now because it doesn't exist yet.)
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The reason I feel Ender in Exile would make a better sequel is because (if the movie is done well) people will want to see Ender again.
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Another problem with the Shadow series is that the first time I read them I was bored to death with all of the military and political maneuvering. All I wanted was the characters. I kept getting confused who was fighting whom, and where each person was, and why this country had an alliance with that one. I was twelve when I started them. If the Shadow books are made into a movie, they will either have to be simplified and clearly explained or risk losing some of the viewing audience.
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Yeah, definitely. If the Shadow books are made, they'll be vastly simplified for the nintendo generation that watches all the movies.
People will want to see Ender again, but that won't overcome the fact that it would be a totally different type of movie.
For some idea of what I'm talking about, browse some of the threads in the past few months on this forum regarding speaker and those books.
Here's the gist - People who love EG don't like the Speaker Trilogy. OSC had some really informative posts regarding why this is, but I'm too lazy to find them right now.
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I think the difference rises from the fact that EG is primarily sci-fi action and is kid-centered, while the Speaker trilogy is heavily laden with ideas, theories, concepts, etc., is adult-centered, and slower-paced than EG. Compare the battleroom EG sequences with the speculation on philotes in Xenocide, for instance.
I highly doubt that a movie based on the Speaker trilogy would attract the same audience as an EG game, regardless of whether Ender was in it or not. Movies don't have the same capabilities as books for letting the audience know the characters, they tend to focus on events instead.
I, personally, am hoping for a new Ender book written more in the spirit of EG and ES rather than the Speaker or Shadow trilogies. I know that is unlikely to happen, but OSC is very good at writing in different genres, and one could argue that the three types of books seen from the Enderverse so far could be three completely different genres.
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"I, personally, am hoping for a new Ender book written more in the spirit of EG and ES rather than the Speaker or Shadow trilogies."-CRash
I would also like another battle school book/movie. When reading online about the Ender movie it talked about starting off with the pre Enders caving under the presure in battle school. In Ender's Game Graff talks about one kid that killed himself in battle school. Maybe a prequel could be made using these plots(Just an Idea, be kind). Posts: 86 | Registered: Jun 2005
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In a thread similar to this, OSC explicitly stated there would be no Speaker film. To paraphrase, he stated that it would be in insanely boring and talky film, punctuated by scenes of extreme violence. Bummer.
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I'm sure people have asked this before, but seeing as I could get a nice paraphrased answer here...
Has he already ruled out writing about another kid in Battle School that's there when Ender is? Preferably someone older, like Dink. I remember OSC saying something about how the next Ender book, Shadow/Ender bridger, and Mazer book are going to be his last ones from the Enderverse. But hopefully I'm imagining this?
The years in Battle School was definatly my favorite part in the Ender/Shadow series. The Character development there was phenomenal.
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although I loved the Shadow series, I don't think that they would transfer well into movies simply because of the age of the actors... I would be very afraid that It would look something like SPY KIDS at the very best. (not that I dislike SPY KIDS, but it doesnt really match the same atmosphere as SHADOW books)
ON the other hand though, Kids in the battle school atmosphere should transfer over pretty well to the big screen... simply because even though they are brilliant, they are still vulnerable... not yet running the world. They are just playing games.
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Although what you say about them playing games is true, you forget that these are not your typical six year olds. They were launched into Battle School as geniuses, and I can't envision any of the characters of Ender's Game, even the normal ones, playing tag or any other games that innocent children play.
For the movie to be taken seriously, the children must be excellent actors able to sound... serious. Maintaining calm thought and body language usually not evident in children will be all but required, such as subtle glares, and I see Bonzo looking down his nose at everyone too.
After Ender's Game, I believe that Ender in Exile would follow if that movie contains appropriate action. However, nothing really seems to happen from the time when he finds the egg to when he becomes a speaker, certainly not any action sequences like Ender's Game contains.
Logically, the Shadow series will thus follow the Ender's Game movie, which will be coming out in August 2005. :wink:
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Okay watch Babylon 5, they have all that political maneuvering and aliances and stuff in it as well and its adds to the story. I'm in season 4 now
the thing about Ender in Exile is that doesn't it involve Achiles Jr.? You'ld have to have the entire shadow series down first before making it. I hope they have a good russian child actor for Vlad I can just imagine a young Walter Konig "Nuclear wessels!"
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Once they have the script they want to shoot from - and budget from - then there's three to six months of preproduction, three months of shooting, and six to twelve months of post production. Add to that complications from the director's and actors' schedules and the need to release the movie in May or June of whatever year it comes out, and you get an idea of scheduling complications. If they're in a rush, they'll spend more to get things done faster; if they know the director won't be available for some time, the project will sit there pleasantly until he's ready to take it seriously and work on it.
Really, scheduling is just too hard to even guess at right now. But a draft of the script by Benioff and Weiss is now being read by various key people.
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"the thing about Ender in Exile is that doesn't it involve Achiles Jr.? You'ld have to have the entire shadow series down first before making it."-Sid Meier
Archiles Jr. could just be a genius child that Ender meets. They do not have to say that he is bean's child. The book has not come out yet so we do not know the importants of his origin.
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I would think that the meeting between Ender and Bean's kid would be a pretty significant part of the plot.
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I dont doubt that the meeting of the 2 characters will be important, but i think that it might not be as important that he is bean's child. He could be a child with a disease that gives him a brilliant mind, but kills him at a young age. It is a stretch but the people in hollywood can figure something out.
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erm, I'm pretty sure a large part of that books plot is based upon what's down in the Shadow books, or at least until later on, maybe just maybe the book will keep that a secret BUT gives us enough hints that we figure it out anyways. *thinks*
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