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In the Ender/Shadow Series, you describe a marriage between a Mormon and a non-Mormon. Are such marriages technically allowed in the LDS Church today, or did the Wiggins break the rules, seeing as they were a closet Mormon and closet Catholic?
I mean, of course, marriages in which neither partner converts.
Also, on a completly irrelevent not, is John-Paul Wiggin Roman Catholic or Polish National Catholic? I am guessing the former.
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Members of the LDS church are encouraged to not only get married legally (for time), but also get married in the LDS temple for eternity. You can only enter the LDS temple if you are a member in good standing, so it's impossible for anyone but a Mormon to get married in the LDS temple.
But many people do get married outside of the temple, or outside of the faith. While there may be some social backlash from this, that's it. Being married to someone who is not a member in no way restricts that member from full fellowship in the church.
To sum up, it's not encouraged, but there are no penalties for doing so.
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I dated many non-members and once fell in love with a non-member. But as we got to talking about the idea of raising a family together, religion became an impotrant topic. He was devout Catholic and I am LDS. And I also dreamt of being married in the temple which would have not been possible with a non-member. We went our separate ways in respect of the future children God may bless us with. We did not wish to cause confusion with 2 devout faiths. I ended up getting married in the temple to a wonderful man who shares my views and beliefs and our children will not have to deal with the confusion that many children have when being raised in mixed faiths.
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A point: the family Mrs. Wiggin came from was devout, but First Meetings describes some alienation between her and her family, and possibly her faith. So she herself may believe but not be "active".
I have to wonder what the LDS church would do in the face of world-wide population controls; we are taught that we must obey the law of the land, but we are also taught that we should try to overturn unrighteous (to our eyes) laws. Through legal channels, of course. Would the church excommunicate members who were caught having extra children, as they do those who practice polygamy? Or would they tacitly respect their decision, deciding that government punitive measures were enough?
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The church takes each issue one at a time. And with population control ... the church did discourage birth control (not forbid) for a time, but included the caveat: Couples should consider their financial means and the health of the mother. In other words, it was up to us, and here are the things we should consider. Polygamy, on the other hand, ALWAYS had the requirement that the consent of church leadership was needed before polygamous marriages could be entered into (not always enforced, but very much intended); so when the Church withdrew that permission, polygamy became an act of rebellion and defiance against the authority of the church. Family size would not be quite the same situation, at least under present Church teachings.
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quote: Polygamy, on the other hand, ALWAYS had the requirement that the consent of church leadership was needed before polygamous marriages could be entered into
Polygamy is the one thing that hurts my faith the most in J. Smith. It's always in the back of my mind that many men would do anything for multiple mates--is it possible a man would undertake such a large work in order to have lots o' women?
--But at the same time alot of good things have come from the book.
Personally, I would love multiple wives , but realize it wouldn't make sense in modern times with our current laws. Sigh...
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I can't even imagine being in a polygamous marriage. My mind is wired to put one human above all others in my life, and never more than one. I even have difficulty allowing that one person *and* God in my life, causing all sorts of problems for me.
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quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: *waits for quid to jump in and tell of the love of her life*
Sorry for my delay... I don't always come over to this side of the forum, and I just saw the thread now.
Yep, I'm LDS, and not only did I not marry in the temple, I didn't marry another LDS. Instead, I married a Muslim man who I met over the internet two months before I flew halfway around the world to meet him in person for the first time and then married him 8 hours later.
Whew!
Okay, that's the standard abbreviated answer. The more detailed answer includes details like how bizarrely compatible Fahim and I are, how well we get along, and the fact that, 2 1/2 years later (yeah, yeah, not long, I know) we're still going great.
Fahim goes to mosque every Friday, he fasts during Ramadan (and the extra 6 optional days at the end just after Eid), and prays five times a day facing Mecca. He's a good little Muslim boy. And I go to church on Sunday and do all the things I need to do in order to be a good little Mormon girl. We're both strong in our respective faiths.
Marrying outside of the church, while I wouldn't recommend it as a goal for an LDS person, isn't the end of the world or the end of religious belief and faith. Sometimes, it can even be exactly what God wants.
But then, we also believe in personal revelation.
Just one LDS person's experience in marrying outside the faith.
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Ironically, in Sri Lanka, where we live, Fahim can have up to four wives. I can, quite legally, be in a polygamous marriage. Of course, Fahim ain't gonna do it - he's too lazy to be able to handle more than one wife...
Marriage laws here are dependant on the husband's religion. According to Islamic law, men can have up to four wives, so legally it can happen here. Fahim's uncle has two wives, so yes, it does happen.
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