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I was reading a short story in Asimov's July 2006 issue called "Imposible Dreams" by Tim Pratt. It is about and alternate diminsion where movies that we wish got made in our reality got made in another reality. One of the movies mentioned was Enders Game directed by none other that Ron Howard. Yeah, it scared me a little too!
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Peter Jackson needs to not do anything else... ever.
Personally, I'd prefer Spielberg for the job Myself. Or Perhaps him and Lucas, that would be awesome!
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You know, whenever I looked at a representation of intracellular bodies I wanted to shred the endoplasmic reticulum. Or maybe salt it and watch it turn inside out.
I always thought a movie with Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts would be fascinating. Possibly in a train wreck way, but you never know.
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quote:Originally posted by Reticulum: Personally, I'd prefer Spielberg for the job Myself. Or Perhaps him and Lucas, that would be awesome!
Actually, considering Lucas' recent shenanigans, I don't think he should ever be allowed to direct a movie.
In 20 or 30 years we'd get the Ender's Game Special Edition, then the Special Special Editions on HHHDD-DVD, and then he'd swear up and down that he'd never release the 'horrible' 2007 version of Ender's Game but then he'd use a crappy version of it to finally release it to the public, but we'd have to buy it with the special-special-re-edited special editions for $500 in 2037.
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quote:Originally posted by Dagonee: Peter Jackson needs to not do anything else until he makes The Hobbit, darnit.
The problem is two different studios have claim to The Hobbit. One has the rights to make an adaptation, but the other has the rights to distribute it. Frustrating, no?
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whoa whoa whOA! They are planning teh Hobbit!?
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Brett Ratner. After seeing his work on X-Men, obviously only he can bring the vast character development and sensitive storytelling we need for EG.
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quote:Originally posted by Joldo: Brett Ratner. After seeing his work on X-Men, obviously only he can bring the vast character development and sensitive storytelling we need for EG.
This is a joke, right?
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I would be so cool if Joss Whedon and Orson Scott Card worked out some sort of story trade-off -- Joss would direct Ender's Game and other OSC stories, and OSC would write some stories in the Firefly 'verse -- like Mal's life as a child genius on Shadow.
The world could not contain the awesome that that pairing could produce.
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quote:Originally posted by sarcasticmuppet: I would be so cool if Joss Whedon and Orson Scott Card worked out some sort of story trade-off -- Joss would direct Ender's Game and other OSC stories, and OSC would write some stories in the Firefly 'verse -- like Mal's life as a child genius on Shadow.
The world could not contain the awesome that that pairing could produce.
If Firefly were still a going concern it'd be cool to see some OSC-written scripts, and OSC-written Firefly comics could be fun, but I'd prefer to see something by him set in the story's present rather than at its roots.
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OSC's a little more conservative than I think the show was -- i can't imagine him ever condoning or even *thinking* of the "twixt mah nethers" line Posts: 3516 | Registered: Sep 2002
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Well, we don't actually know who was responsible for which parts of Lovelock. But pretty much every one of his books includes sexuality as part of the human experience. Also food, and occasionally even sleep.
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Somehow watching comical witty banter between Ender and Bean would ruin some of the magic of EG for me, I'd cross Joss out, though I think he'd do a better job than WP.
I can't echo Dag enough when I say I wish PJ were making The Hobbit next. But I hope that by the time Lovely Bones is done, New Line and Sony will have finally worked out their differences (I think they will before the decade is up), and the friggin movie can finally be made, before the two or three actors who need to be in it aren't available.
I think George Lucas directing EG wouldn't be horrible. You have to remember, he wouldn't be writing it, controlling distribution, or have any of the rights. I think he's a great director, great project manager, and a fantastic story conceptualizer, just a horrible writer in most cases. So long as OSC is writing the movie and has creative control, I'd be more than satisfied with Lucas directing it.
It'd be interesting to see what Richard Kelly would do with it (the guy who made Donnie Darko).
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Joss would make an interesting choice as long as he was NOT writing the script - his style is too fundamentally different from OSCs to tell the same story.
I'd like to see Kurosawa do it. I bet Miyazaki would do a faaaaantastic animated version.
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I think Miyazaki's version would be too stylized and have too many moments of silence for it work. His movies tend to have half the kind of dialogue you'd need to really push EG forward. He likes sweeping visuals punctuated by silence. Don't think that really works for Ender's character development.
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Joss would make an interesting choice as long as he was NOT writing the script - his style is too fundamentally different from OSCs to tell the same story.
I'd like to see Kurosawa do it. I bet Miyazaki would do a faaaaantastic animated version.
I can't agree more on the Tarantino sentiment. I mean, don't get me wrong - he's a good director. But this just... isn't his bag. I wouldn't like to see Bonso Madrid bleed out a rough gallon the first time Ender punched him. That just... wouldn't be right.
Now, Whedon is a good idea. I like that, in a geeky it'll-never-happen sort of way.
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quote:I think Miyazaki's version would be too stylized and have too many moments of silence for it work. His movies tend to have half the kind of dialogue you'd need to really push EG forward. He likes sweeping visuals punctuated by silence. Don't think that really works for Ender's character development.
I think that's precisely why I'd like Miyazaki's version so much. I'm not sure it would work so well as a standalone, but as a companion to the novel? YUM. OSC's writing is so verbose that to see it get translated into a denser medium would make me really happy.
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Joss would make an interesting choice as long as he was NOT writing the script - his style is too fundamentally different from OSCs to tell the same story.
I'd like to see Kurosawa do it. I bet Miyazaki would do a faaaaantastic animated version.
I can't agree more on the Tarantino sentiment. I mean, don't get me wrong - he's a good director. But this just... isn't his bag. I wouldn't like to see Bonso Madrid bleed out a rough gallon the first time Ender punched him. That just... wouldn't be right.
Now, Whedon is a good idea. I like that, in a geeky it'll-never-happen sort of way.
People also said Tarantino shouldn't be doing action when he did Kill Bill and that turned out great. I'm not saying he would be the best but just saying that this could be something new for him like Kill Bill was.
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quote:People also said Tarantino shouldn't be doing action when he did Kill Bill and that turned out great. I'm not saying he would be the best but just saying that this could be something new for him like Kill Bill was.
Yeah but remember that Kill Bill's 2nd half was actually way better than the first, and it had less than half of the action.
I say let Joss Whedon (Serenity/Firefly), Luc Besson (5th Element/Leon) or Bryan Singer (X-men/Usual Suspects) do it.
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I thought there was a director already in place. I haven't read most of this thread so fill me in on what I missed.
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: Graff: So we have a deal then right?
Bonzo: It appears so
Graff: Feel that twitch at the back of your neck?
Bonzo: yah
Graff: That's pride ****ing with you. **** PRIDE!
Bonzo: yes sir.
Graff: In the battle with Ender, your ass goes down. Say it.
Bonzo: In the battle with Ender, my ass goes down.
Graff: That's right little boy.
Nice. But wait, that means that Ender would actually lose and Bonzo would be on the run from Graff until they meet randomly and Bonzo hits Graff with his car. Then... you know, Graff and Zed.
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quote:People also said Tarantino shouldn't be doing action when he did Kill Bill and that turned out great. I'm not saying he would be the best but just saying that this could be something new for him like Kill Bill was.
Yeah but remember that Kill Bill's 2nd half was actually way better than the first, and it had less than half of the action.
I say let Joss Whedon (Serenity/Firefly), Luc Besson (5th Element/Leon) or Bryan Singer (X-men/Usual Suspects) do it.
I'll agree that Vol.2 was better than Vol.1 but still, you can't say that the fighting was bad in Vol.1. Listen, I'm just saying it would be cool to see what he could do with it. Plus its not like he possibly will since he's already got other movies to do.
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: Graff: So we have a deal then right?
Bonzo: It appears so
Graff: Feel that twitch at the back of your neck?
Bonzo: yah
Graff: That's pride ****ing with you. **** PRIDE!
Bonzo: yes sir.
Graff: In the battle with Ender, your ass goes down. Say it.
Bonzo: In the battle with Ender, my ass goes down.
Graff: That's right little boy.
Nice. But wait, that means that Ender would actually lose and Bonzo would be on the run from Graff until they meet randomly and Bonzo hits Graff with his car. Then... you know, Graff and Zed.
Ah, that's harsh. I don't mean that Tarantino is a bad director; he's definitely not. But I just doubt that he'd mesh well with the style of Ender's universe.
Oh well. Like you said, it's an unlikely event.
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Personally, if anyone were to direct Ender's Game, I'd like to see Alex Proyas direct it. Sure he did a sub-par job with I, Robot (in my personal opinion), but the premise of a troubled youthful soul becoming a tool of vengance is something he's done before (The Crow), and he can certainly pull off a sci-fi atmosphere without making it overly cheesy (Dark City, and to a degree I, Robot). I'm sure that he would request some scenes be done in a way that OSC might have a bit of trouble with, but I could certainly see him casting Keifer Sutherland in, well, pretty much any of the adult roles save Ender's Father.
If he were to do it though, one thing is for sure, he wouldn't make what I consider to be the classic sci-fi space mistake...having everything look clean. A spacecraft of any kind with recirculating air and that many people in close quarters (especially children) would NEVER look even REMOTELY clean. Even if it were spotless, there would still be a kind of permanent funk everyone would subconsciously know was there.
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Ah crap! I forgot Wolfgang P was already slated to direct it. I just read the "will suck" thread. I tend to disagree with the initiator of that particular thread's points. I do personally think that Wolfgang Petersen has made some of the worst movies in the past decade, on the other hand, one cannot make a horrible script a good film. A Perfect Storm, Troy, and Poisidon could simply never be good films, they're blockbusters. Air Force One was horrible in every conceivable way, but hey, everyone is allowed their mulligan.
The one thing you can say though, is that all of those movies made fantastic amounts of money and had a promotion machine behind them larger than the state of Texas. Wolfgang Petersen being slated for a film means that, at the very least, the studio REALLY wants it made and will give whatever resources they can to make it as good as humanly possible.
Also, Mr. Card is writing the script. While this doesn't guarantee that it will be a good movie, at least it will be a good script on which to base a movie.
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Is wolfgang petersen actually going to be the director?
Why would that be? If I were the creator of a masterwork of fiction like EG or say the Foundation series (and if I were alive) - I wouldn't let certain directors NEAR my property.
"Uwe Boll wants to direct my book into a film? Tell him to stick it. In fact I'll call him personally and tell him to stick it." "Paul WS Anderson? Don't call him back. DONT CALL HIM BACK." "Peter Jackson? Well... give him a call and tell him I'll consider it but warn him that if its as boring as King Kong was I'll gut him." "No, don't call Lucas back." "Besson? Hmm.. yeah that might work. Give him a call."
Seriously, wouldn't Mr. Card have some sort of say as to whether or not a known 'meh' director was going to be attached?
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I doubt OSC has a say at all. Once he sells them the rights to make a movie, they can pretty much make whatever movie they want. I'm just glad they were smart enough to give him a go at the script, and I hope they are smart enough to keep it.
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they can't pretty much make whatever movie they want because OSC spent over a decade fighting for restrictions in the rights he sold for the movie. if they could make whatever movie they wanted it would've been made in 95 and been worse than the Fantastic Four movie that saw the light of day for... A DAY, and dissapeared into bootlegland. So thank OSC for that.
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And thanks Aryei. I didn't know that. So how much influence do you think he has over the final product?
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OSC has written at length that he doesn't consider Peterson to be a 'meh' director. We don't know how much control OSC has in the selection of directors, but he seems very very pleased with Peterson. You get the impression that, if he *were* in control, Peterson is exactly one of the people he would have chosen. (And maybe he did, who knows?)
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Personally, I think that Spielberg should direct. He's the best movie maker, ever. Along with him and Lucas, they would make an excellent movie. Just like Indy, they could both do it. Then, you would have the best movie makers, along with the best SciFi, to make for the best movie ever!
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Spielberg really is the best movie maker. I mean, look at, War of the Worlds, Minority Report, Saving private Ryan, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, and Jaws for heaven's sake. All the very best movies are made by him. He's so stinkin good! Ender's Game directed by Spielberg would become a classic.
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*nods in agreement* And, since its by Spielberg, it would be a boxoffice success! This way, you would have a classic, and you would get to have more Ender Movies!
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quote:Originally posted by Julia: Spielberg really is the best movie maker. I mean, look at, War of the Worlds, Minority Report, Saving private Ryan, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, and Jaws for heaven's sake. All the very best movies are made by him. He's so stinkin good! Ender's Game directed by Spielberg would become a classic.
I don't get it. Are you making fun of Spielberg or are you serious. It's hard to distinguish sarcasm in this medium. I'm gonna go ahead and assume you were being sarcastic, as the only good movie on that list is Indiana Jones.
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