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Well, I picked up the Ender's series about a month ago and loved it. Many nights spent awake due to it!
Anyway, I am new and just wanted to ask what next book you recommend. I picked up Empire but hated it, since it is infused with political ideology--some of which I agree with and some of which I don't--and the characters seem WAY more close-minded than Ender ever was. Plus, as a Christian refugee from Lebanon I believe that killing and the such is portrayed way to lightly in this book. The loss of a human life is the loss of countless memories, emotions, and other such valuable items. This book makes human life seem like trash, which is so unlike Ender's Game I nearly cried.
Ender was open-minded and tolerant.
Anyway,sorry for the rant, but I am looking for a good next-series book. Should I read Ender's Shadow and read up on all the Bean books. Need suggestions.
P.S.--Other than Empire, I love OSC. (If anyone was wondering I support Bush also. I hate how we got into Iraq but we must stay in since *gasp* all human life is equal and if we pull out thousands if not millions will die. I also am less religious than a rock, and though I believe there may be a God somewhere, I am also very tolerant of all religions and am still Christian because I believe in Jesus' moral and liberal ideology that was at a time of strict conservativeness...ironic ).
Anyway, sorry for my rant that is nearly completely off topic. I just need a good OSC book to read and am getting desperate because his writing is unparalleled.
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Maps in a Mirror is my first recommendation. After that--ANY of them.
Welcome to Hatrack. A lot of people had problems with Empire, (including me), but the general consensus was that it shouldn't be discussed on this particular forum. I think people's view of Empire will change when the other books come out.
Also--I just read War of Gifts and rekindled my love for Ender. Truly the greatest character of all time.
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Personally, I think the Homecomming series is the best. It starts with "A Memory of Earth". If you loved Ender, you'll love Nafai!
Next, I like the "Women of Genesis" series. It starts with (obviously) Sarah. However, I'm not sure how well this series goes over with guys.
Maps in a Mirror is good, but it's a collection of short stories. Many of OSC's short stories are... well... a little on the dark and twisted side. I know that the first collection I read "A Changed Man" was definitely an eye oppener. Lost boys, particularly the short story version, is chilling.
I would go with another novel next. "A Memory of Earth" if you want a series, or "Enchantment" if you want a stand alone.
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I wasn't too fond of the Homecoming series personally - but to each his own.
Start digging through some of the short stories would be my suggestion - and if you like the ones dealing with Alvin - continue to the Alvin Maker series.
Other than that, I'd recommend Pastwatch or the Worthing Saga.
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Yeah- Maps in a Mirror is quite dark- think "A Thousand Deaths", "Kingsmeat", and "An Unaccompanied Sonata". The last two were always truly disturbing to me.
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"Maps in a Mirror" is an excellent series of short stories that cover the history of Card's career. But as mentioned, they are dark.
If we want to start with the Ender Series and proceed from there, I would suggest now reading the Shadow series to the end (four books). Then come back and finish the next three books in the Ender Series. All eight books are excellent.
The first of the Shadow Series parallels the 'Enders Game' book but is told from the perspective of the character Bean. The next three books start immediately after the Bugger war and follow Bean through the next few year of his life.
Bean's story while heroic and endearing is also tragic from beginning to end. It will break your heart but in a good way.
The continuation of the Ender's Game story (three additional books) take place 3,000 years in the future. Ender and his sister Valentine have spent most of their lives in near-lightspeed space flight. The time dialation of travel at that speed has allowed them to remain very young while the rest of the world has aged, as I said, 3,000 years.
There is an intermediate book that is really a combination of short stories called 'First Meetings'. It has the story of Ender's Father as a young boy. The story of Ender's parents meeting. The story of how Ender first meets the entity Jane, which will make more sense when you have read the rest of the Ender series. Plus, the original 'Ender's Game' story that appeared as a short story in a magazine in 1978 (roughly). An excellent book for fans who want to know more.
Finally, the recently published 'War of Gifts' which is really a novella, a long short story about one incident that took place while Ender was at Battle School.
Now, once you have completed this task (11 books), you can start moving into non-Ender related stories by Card.
Also keep in mind that there are two new Ender/Bean related books in the planning stage, though to my knowledge, no planned publication date has been set.
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Welcome to Hatrack, HelicioNOD! My vote is for Seventh Son. If you like that, continue the Alvin Maker series. You won't be disappointed.
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quote:Originally posted by BlueWizard: "Maps in a Mirror" is an excellent series of short stories that cover the history of Card's career. But as mentioned, they are dark.
If we want to start with the Ender Series and proceed from there, I would suggest now reading the Shadow series to the end (four books). Then come back and finish the next three books in the Ender Series. All eight books are excellent.
The first of the Shadow Series parallels the 'Enders Game' book but is told from the perspective of the character Bean. The next three books start immediately after the Bugger war and follow Bean through the next few year of his life.
Bean's story while heroic and endearing is also tragic from beginning to end. It will break your heart but in a good way.
The continuation of the Ender's Game story (three additional books) take place 3,000 years in the future. Ender and his sister Valentine have spent most of their lives in near-lightspeed space flight. The time dialation of travel at that speed has allowed them to remain very young while the rest of the world has aged, as I said, 3,000 years.
There is an intermediate book that is really a combination of short stories called 'First Meetings'. It has the story of Ender's Father as a young boy. The story of Ender's parents meeting. The story of how Ender first meets the entity Jane, which will make more sense when you have read the rest of the Ender series. Plus, the original 'Ender's Game' story that appeared as a short story in a magazine in 1978 (roughly). An excellent book for fans who want to know more.
Finally, the recently published 'War of Gifts' which is really a novella, a long short story about one incident that took place while Ender was at Battle School.
Now, once you have completed this task (11 books), you can start moving into non-Ender related stories by Card.
Also keep in mind that there are two new Ender/Bean related books in the planning stage, though to my knowledge, no planned publication date has been set.
That should keep you busy for a while.
Steve/BlueWizard
Wow thanks man
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