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James Schindler
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I was thinking about what an Ender's Game video game would look like? I would love to buy it if it ever came out but i was wondering about what people thought of making one and what it would look like?

I was thinking about it looking similar to Team Fortress 2 with a combination with the talk features and groupings like World of Warcraft Raid Parties which were originally 40 members. It would have teamspeak like most new online games.

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I don't know, I kind of doubt OSC would let the rights go for cheap. Since Ender's Game isn't as popular as LOTR or Harry Potter, success is not necessarily guaranteed, and only a developer who was also an ardent fan of EG would be willing to pay that kind of money, otherwise. So, it probably won't happen anytime soon, is my guess.
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Given the role that video games play in the book, it's hard to imagine an "Ender's Game" video game being anything other than deeply creepy.

Unless someone came up with a good way of modeling the "freezing" of various limbs, I think the zero-g battle rooms are out. The space-based war against the Buggers would be hard to do in a way that wouldn't be derivative of other games. And... I don't think I want to play The Giant's Drink.

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"Given the role that video games play in the book, it's hard to imagine an "Ender's Game" video game being anything other than deeply creepy."

I believe the most recent Donkey Kong Country has the "character walks up to console and plays video game" concept. It was a little rough in practice, but not totally without its enjoyable aspects.

I do think, in general, it would be hard to convert all the major elements of the whole book to a game. Maybe just the Battle Room, or just the Bugger war, or just those 2 elements.

Maybe playing Ender running from Peter? [Smile]

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How about a "Peter and the Squirrel" game? It could be like a computerized version of Operation.

Or a game where you play a spirit-broken Ender back on earth. No one's ever made a really good raft building simulator before, that I'm aware of.

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They were talking about a battle room simulator a few years back, but I seriously doubt that this will happen.

The battle room in the novel focuses on teamwork and group tactics, while multiplayer gaming is infested with infantile dipnoses who run forward without thinking and shoot teammates.

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I think the only way an Ender's Game video game will get made is if it's based off the movie. And the movie would have to be successful.

Here's how I'd see the format. The battle school halls would be the 'main menu,' where you can walk around and access different modes of play. The main mode would be the battle room, where maybe there'd be tournaments and such. And then there would be some 'lesser' modes, like the fantasy game. And then maybe by going to the barracks or something, you could play story mode, which would follow the plot of the book/movie. And then by getting far enough in story mode you'll be able to unlock the ability to go to Eros, and play the flight 'simulators.' And by getting so far in certain modes, you could unlock other characters to play as, maybe scenes from the movie, etc.

Something like that. I was thinking alone the lines of the Spider-man 2 game, where you could do races, do jobs for the Daily Bugle, go on pizza deliveries, etc. Yeah...

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I'd love to see how a good developer would approach gameplay elements from the Battle Room.

With all the 0G freedom, and restrictions, it would be a game like no other. I might make one myself if the movie doesn't get made at the time it was announced.

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James Schindler
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl Conrad Coreander:
I think the only way an Ender's Game video game will get made is if it's based off the movie. And the movie would have to be successful.

Here's how I'd see the format. The battle school halls would be the 'main menu,' where you can walk around and access different modes of play. The main mode would be the battle room, where maybe there'd be tournaments and such. And then there would be some 'lesser' modes, like the fantasy game. And then maybe by going to the barracks or something, you could play story mode, which would follow the plot of the book/movie. And then by getting far enough in story mode you'll be able to unlock the ability to go to Eros, and play the flight 'simulators.' And by getting so far in certain modes, you could unlock other characters to play as, maybe scenes from the movie, etc.

Something like that. I was thinking alone the lines of the Spider-man 2 game, where you could do races, do jobs for the Daily Bugle, go on pizza deliveries, etc. Yeah...

That is a really good idea for a 1 player version of it, I never really thought about it like that. It sounds like what they did in Perfect Dark for the N64. And for the person that mentioned those online players that just run in, you should play team fortress 2, especially on the ranked servers. about 80% of the people have microphones on while playing and those who dont listen about how to attack and what type of class the team needs. They also have entire movies online of tournaments where you follow a certain person and here everything the team says.
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James Schindler
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O i forgot to mention that i believe that the movie has been dropped because nothing has been mentioned about casting on any website since 2006 and they said that it would come out sometime in 2008
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Nah. Think about it. Anyone remember NiGHTS? The Battle school could be like that.

Done well, an Ender game could be the best thing ever. Done not-so-well, it would make us all very, very sad.

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quote:
Originally posted by Carl Conrad Coreander:
I think the only way an Ender's Game video game will get made is if it's based off the movie. And the movie would have to be successful.

And we all know how great games based off movie licenses are...
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Thread should be retitled "Why does everyone think of an Enders Game Video Game?"
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I actually think it could be pulled off, of course, anything can be pulled off, just depends how much it's gonna cost and how much time it's gonna take.

The main problem would be varying the game to where if you had read the book it wouldnt be all... this is easy.

If it was a game it would be roleplaying, atleast i think it would be roleplaying. As roleplaying games go, it wouldnt be traditional.

Traditional RPG: (many of these apply mainly to final fantasy games and games made by square enix)
The setting changes alot, making the game fast paced in a way.
Few games inside of the game, it's all centered on one point: continue the story.
Only a few charachters that matter, usually no more than 10.
A battle system consisting of weapons, and random encounters most of the time, and then bosses.

What a video game centered on Enders game would be:
A continuous setting only changing twice, unless they combined enders game and enders shadow together, which i think it would screw things up.
It would not all be centered upon one thing, theres the mind game, the different games in the mind game, the battleroom, the arcade room, and then there would be the practice sessions, which i think enders freetime practices would be what a traditional RPG would call, "training". Therefore, you would increase your stats as the story went on, but you could help increase your stats by doing freetime practices, etc.
It might be made as one of the video games that is centered upon a certain aspect. In this case it would be the storyline doesnt continue until you win a certain battle in the battleroom. I've never seen a video game that i think has pulled this off, so i wouldnt recommend it.
Unlike a traditional battle system, it would be centered upon the battleroom, and later, ender commanding the fleets. You would have to be able to control multiple people in the battleroom, because if you only controlled ender, then when you got frozen, the game would be really, really boring. OR, you could be from and upper point of veiw, just commanding the battle, but this would not appeal to many people, this may be how it would be prefered, because i believe that OSC would rather have kids reading the book than playing the game (if it ever is made).

Personally, i'd rather no video game based on the book, than a crappy video game based on the book.

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James Schindler
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I completely agree with your last statement. One game i know off hand that you cannot continue the story mode without winning a battle is Battlefront 2, if you do not win, you can not continue.

I think that you should be able to change between controlling the battle and actually fighting in it. In grand turismo 4 you can change from being the driver, to being the drivers informant saying if they push it and so on. If this would happen in a game like this it may become very similar to the warcraft games

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So like Star Fox Command, you tell your units where to go and when they crash into an enemy you control them?
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James Schindler
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I was thinking for a battle, before the battle you chose to control individuals or the army as a whole. Like you can chose it to be a first person shooter or a third person strategy game but that is an interesting idea, i personally has never played star fox command so i dont know what the play was like
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James Schindler
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not all video game tie ins are bad, look at all the star wars games!
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Yes, there are some really good Star Wars games out there.

I hope that by the time an Ender's Game video game starts production, I'll be able to be a part of it. I'm considering a career in game design if my writing ambitions don't come to bear fruit.

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**Negative Nancy Warning**

Bad idea. I have yet to see a FPS or other game where a player can accurately control something in zero G using a keyboard or a console controller.

As cool a concept as the battleroom is, I don't think it translates to a video game unless players can control their characters well. Also, I wouldn't tie it with enders game at all. Laser guns that dont kill, and kids instead of men shooting them probably won't sell well.

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Hmm... Perhaps I could try my hand at making a 2D demo of how a Battle Room simulator would look and feel? Seems to me like it would have an easier-to-handle control scheme if I made it 2D.
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quote:
Originally posted by TrapperKeeper:
**Negative Nancy Warning**

Bad idea. I have yet to see a FPS or other game where a player can accurately control something in zero G using a keyboard or a console controller.

^ Play Crysis in the alien ship. q and e to rotate left and right with thrusters, wasd standard and mouse. Works amazingly well.

Though it would be ridiculously difficult to simulate/let the user control wall rebounds and such.


I'm afraid that unless Crytek or someone who actually makes QUALITY games is givien charge, spirit, and a complete lack of intervention from others they could turn EG into a good game. If not, it will end up like every other subpar, rushed, clumsy, incomplete, buggy, generally crap movie based game.

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The thing about Ender's Game is that the people who read it really CARE about it. Any game developer would WANT to make the game good. I don't know anyone who I recommended the book to who didn't become a dedicated fan.
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Yeah - I wouldn't mind seeing a battle room sim if they uses Crysis's engine - that worked great.
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My first post on this subject just got eaten, and I don't feel like writing it over. So instead, here's a link.
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And if you like reading about it, here's yet another link
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