FacebookTwitter
Hatrack River Forum   
my profile login | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Hatrack River Forum » Active Forums » Books, Films, Food and Culture » Oops! Senators may have outed CIA operative

   
Author Topic: Oops! Senators may have outed CIA operative
Dagonee
Member
Member # 5818

 - posted      Profile for Dagonee           Edit/Delete Post 
Almost certainly it was an accident:

quote:
Senators may have blown the cover of a covert CIA officer yesterday.

During a hearing on John R. Bolton's nomination to be ambassador to the United Nations, Bolton and members of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee referred to the analyst as "Mr. Smith." They were discussing one of the officials involved in a dispute over what Democrats said was Bolton's inappropriate treatment of an intelligence analyst who disagreed with him.

"We referred to this other analyst at the CIA, whom I'll try and call Mr. Smith here," Bolton said at one point.

But the committee chairman, Richard G. Lugar (R-Ind.), and Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) mentioned a name that had not previously come up in public accounts of the intelligence flap.

In questioning Bolton, Kerry read from a transcript of closed-door interviews that committee staffers conducted with State Department officials before yesterday's hearing.

"Did Otto Reich share his belief that [the person in question] should be removed from his position? The answer is yes," Kerry said, characterizing one interview. "Did John Bolton share that view?" Kerry asked. Again, he said the answer was yes.

"As I said, I had lost confidence in Mr. Smith, and I conveyed that," Bolton replied. "I thought that was the honest thing to do."

It's not clear this is lefe threatening, since the person was an "analyst." But it seems to me that if you're trying to keep something secret, and you're going to talk about it in public, you would only bring the redacted version with you. It's hard to remember to do a substitution every time you see a word when you're reading aloud.

Dagonee

Posts: 26071 | Registered: Oct 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TMedina
Member
Member # 6649

 - posted      Profile for TMedina   Email TMedina         Edit/Delete Post 
And these are the people we trust to make decisions.

-Trevor

Posts: 5413 | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TomDavidson
Member
Member # 124

 - posted      Profile for TomDavidson   Email TomDavidson         Edit/Delete Post 
We're clearly going to need to create a Red Carpet Club for operatives whose cover has been blown by members of the government, for one reason or another.
Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Dagonee
Member
Member # 5818

 - posted      Profile for Dagonee           Edit/Delete Post 
It's not clear they wanted this person secret for security reasons or just to avoid naming someone incidental to the topic. If this was classified at all, then they're walking around the Senate into public hearings with classified, unredacted information - fairly frightening. If they were just trying to protect this person's privacy, then it's "mere" incompetence.

Dagonee

Posts: 26071 | Registered: Oct 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Kayla
Member
Member # 2403

 - posted      Profile for Kayla   Email Kayla         Edit/Delete Post 
I find that hard to believe.

quote:
March 14, 2003



THE AMERICAS

Why Can't the CIA Tell Us More About Hugo's Plotting?

By MARY ANASTASIA O'GRADY/Editor The Americas

Wall Street Journal

The U.S. national intelligence officer for Latin America, Fulton T. Armstrong was called to testify before the House's International Relations Committee on Feb. 27. The HIRC invitation asked for an overview of "political and economic trends in the Western Hemisphere." Mr. Armstrong declined, according to the committee, on the grounds that he did not want to speak in an open, unclassified format.

From the NIC website.

quote:
Fulton Armstrong
National Intelligence Officer for Latin America
Fulton T. Armstrong was appointed National Intelligence Officer for Latin America on 1 June 2000. Previously Mr. Armstrong served as Chief of Staff of the DCI Crime and Narcotics Center (CNC). Prior to that, he served two terms as a Director for Inter-American Affairs at the National Security Council (1995-97 and 1998-99) and as Deputy NIO for Latin America (1997-98).

Mr. Armstrong began his government career in 1980 as Legislative Assistant and Press Secretary to US Representative Jim Leach. In 1984-95, he served as analyst, political-economic officer, and manager specializing in Latin America in the both the intelligence and policy communities.

Prior to joining government, Mr. Armstrong worked four years as a reporter, editor, and translator in Taiwan. He earned his B.S. in Linguistics and Spanish at Georgetown University in 1976. He is fluent in Spanish and Mandarin Chinese.

I don't think it was a secret. Maybe it's just me.
Posts: 9871 | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Dagonee
Member
Member # 5818

 - posted      Profile for Dagonee           Edit/Delete Post 
Is Amrstrong the one who was named? I didn't see his name anywhere.

Like I said, the only thing clear is they were trying to keep his name out of it and failed. It's not clear why.

Posts: 26071 | Registered: Oct 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Kayla
Member
Member # 2403

 - posted      Profile for Kayla   Email Kayla         Edit/Delete Post 
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050412/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bolton_analyst_1

quote:
By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON - Mr. Smith came to Washington again Monday, as an alias for a Central Intelligence Agency officer who works covertly. Senators, however, may have blown his cover.



During questioning on John R. Bolton's nomination to be President Bush's ambassador to the United Nations, Bolton and members of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee referred to "Mr. Smith" as one official among several who were involved in a dispute over what Democrats asserted was Bolton's inappropriate treatment of an intelligence analyst who disagreed with him.

"We referred to this other analyst at the CIA, whom I'll try and call Mr. Smith here, I hope I can keep that straight," Bolton said at one point.

Committee Chairman Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., both mentioned a name, Fulton Armstrong, that had not previously come up in public accounts of the intelligence flap.

It is not clear whether Armstrong is the undercover officer, but an exchange between Kerry and Bolton suggests that he may be.

In questioning Bolton, Kerry read from a transcript of closed-door interviews that committee staffers conducted with State Department officials prior to Monday's hearing.

"Did Otto Reich share his belief that Fulton Armstrong should be removed from his position? The answer is yes," Kerry said, characterizing one interview. "Did John Bolton share that view?" Kerry said, and then said the answer again was yes.

"As I said, I had lost confidence in Mr. Smith, and I conveyed that," Bolton replied evenly. "I thought that was the honest thing to do."



[ April 12, 2005, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Kayla ]

Posts: 9871 | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Dagonee
Member
Member # 5818

 - posted      Profile for Dagonee           Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks. Yeah - seems like it's not a security issue.
Posts: 26071 | Registered: Oct 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Lyrhawn
Member
Member # 7039

 - posted      Profile for Lyrhawn   Email Lyrhawn         Edit/Delete Post 
Not on the scale of Robert Novack's outing of a CIA operative actually under cover.

Still, seems a little careless.

Posts: 21898 | Registered: Nov 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
1lobo1
Member
Member # 7762

 - posted      Profile for 1lobo1   Email 1lobo1         Edit/Delete Post 
Trust me, most Senators don't know what is going on until 10 minutes prior to a hearing...sure, they get a memo the night before, but who knows if they read them...when they receive the breifing memo, opening statement and questions, they are relying on their staff to have written up everything correctly.

Hearings are like scripted plays with some improv every now and then...

[ April 12, 2005, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: 1lobo1 ]

Posts: 54 | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
littlemissattitude
Member
Member # 4514

 - posted      Profile for littlemissattitude   Email littlemissattitude         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, that confirms it. The United States is being run by the Keystone Kops. Great.
Posts: 2454 | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

   Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | Hatrack River Home Page

Copyright © 2008 Hatrack River Enterprises Inc. All rights reserved.
Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited.


Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classic™ 6.7.2