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Eduardo_Sauron
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Hi, people. I'm very interested in the subject of religion. Since Hatrack is the first international forum I'm in, I figured it would be a great place to know about others' religions. It does not matter if it is not an established on, like the Catholic or Baptist Church. I just wanted to know what people believe and why.
So...if you like the idea, let's discover how diverse are religions, here in Hatrack.
Oh, yes...later (when I come back from work), I can talk about my own case. [Smile]

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Everyone here is Mormon, and you will be too, as soon as our agent gets to you.
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[Laugh]

Mormonism is defintly over represented on this board, but certainly there's a very wide variety of faiths on this board. Me? I'm Mormon too (one of those [Roll Eyes] [Wink] [Big Grin] )

[EDIT: Don't pay attention to those people who tell you I spelled "Mormon" as "Momron", as you can tell I clearly didn't. [Roll Eyes] [Embarrassed] [Embarrassed] ]

Hobbes [Smile]

[ October 28, 2003, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]

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Robespierre
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There is no god but no god, and no one is no god's prophet.
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Sopwith
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And there are none so blind, as those who will not see...
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Robespierre
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Thats an odd religion Sopwith!
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Sopwith
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Only a response to your double negatives post of before. Now that one left me scratching my head in puzzlement...
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Momron? Are you creating your own sect, Hobbes?
As for me, I'm agnostic.

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Noemon
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It's a typo RRR. He meant "Moron".
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Robespierre
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quote:
Only a response to your double negatives post of before. Now that one left me scratching my head in puzzlement...
This is a gross understatement. There are at least 4 negatives in that initial sentence.
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Actually, there are precisely four negatives, and they're paired together into double negatives.
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Jacare Sorridente
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UofUlawguy was right- there are only two basic religious groups here: the Mormons and those who have not yet been assimilated. Don't try to fight it Eduardo. Resistance is futile.
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Nice to see you here, Jacare Sorridente. Do you know how I say "Espírita (Kardecista)" in english? It's a shame, but I really forgot.

Thanks in advance. [Smile]

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Momron - wasn't that the bad guy in Thundercats? Is that who Hobbes is worshipping these days?
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Eduardo_Sauron
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The bad guy in Thundercats was Mum-Ra.

Hey, Hobbes, there is an organized cult? Are you a priest? Did you capture Lion and the other Thundercats already?

(Just Kidding) [Wink]

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Well I am king of the cats, the lions kept sleeping on the job so us tigers snatched the role. [Evil Laugh]

Hobbes [Smile]

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Jacare Sorridente
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Eduardo- it is actually just a direct translation: Espiritismo Kardecista is called Kardeckian spiritualism.

Here is a link I found:
http://www.fst.org/believe.htm

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Thanks, Jacare! Well...so, I can say I'm a Kardeckian spiritualist (como "eu sou Espírita Kardecista" em portuguęs), right?

Oh, yes...I'm curious...are you a brazilian guy living abroad or are you an American who lived here for a long time (or took the pains to learn the beautiful but complex language there is portuguese)?

And...why "Jacare Sorridente"?

[Smile]

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As my name implies I too am Mormon. And yes I am also quite maniacal... in fact I doubt you'll meet a mormon who isn't.
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Jacare Sorridente
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Thanks, Jacare! Well...so, I can say I'm a Kardeckian spiritualist (como "eu sou Espírita Kardecista" em portuguęs), right?
Right... I think. It seems that some places make an issue of the difference between "spiritist" and "spiritualist". I am not sure what the difference is myself. Also, I know that in Brazil there are a number of different sects of spiritualism including ones that mix in African elements such as candomble and umbanda. I don't know whether these sects are "spiritist" or "spiritualist".

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Oh, yes...I'm curious...are you a brazilian guy living abroad or are you an American who lived here for a long time (or took the pains to learn the beautiful but complex language there is portuguese)?
I am an American. I lived in Brazil for two years while I was serving a mission for the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons). I enjoy speaking and reading Portuguese so I have done what I can to develop my language skills. I also ended up married to a Brazilian so of course I keep up my speaking skills.

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And...why "Jacare Sorridente"?
No real reason. I just wanted to choose a pseudonym that reflects something of who I am, so I chose a Portuguese name since much of who I am is related to things Brazilian; I chose Jacare because it is an animal capable of defending itself and I chose Sorridente because I generally try to be friendly.
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I’m a liberal protestant with Eastern Orthodox tendencies. Theologically I’m a Tillichian Wesleyan, ecclesiologically I lean toward the Anglican, and denominationally I’m a United Methodist. [Big Grin]
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I posted the basics of my beliefs Here.

It was a landmark some time ago. I think for my next land mark, I'll do more.

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Eduardo_Sauron
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I guess I would be "kardeckian spiritist", then. I didn't realize there were the words "spiritist" and "spiritualist", in english (in portuguese, we have "espírita" and "espiritualista". In this case, we use the first. Spiritualists are new age types, I guess).

Here in Brazil we have many "spiritist" sects, most of them derived from african traditions, as Umbanda and Candomblé (some people call those 'macumba').
Kardeckian spiritism is european in origin. The founder was a frenchman called Alan Kardec.
Basically, we believe in Jesus and the bible, but we also believe that we reincarnate many times in this (and others) world(s) to better ourselves trough time.
We do not have priests, but sensitive people who can "talk to dead people" who have not, yet, reincarnated (sometimes souls get lost, for a time, and we must help them, or 'enlightened souls' are allowed to teach a little, before reincarnate again).
There are much more, of course.

Hope you won't find this too weird and we can all still be friends. [Smile]

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(You're lucky that you have a way to keep up your Portuguese Jacare. [Frown] I feel mine slipping away all the time.)

Same goes for me Eduardo. I spent 19 months no estado lindo de SP [Smile] as a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This makes me a Momron too. (that one's for you Hobbes.) [Big Grin]

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Eduardo_Sauron
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Narnia, guess it makes you an honorary "paulista", hehehe.

I, myself, am a "Carioca" (someone who was born in Rio de Janeiro, the "Cidade Maravilhosa").

Hey, I've been reading a lot about LDS, on this forum. Do any of you know if there is a church in Rio de Janeiro?

As I already told you, I'm very curious about other religions. LDS is a little unknown here where I live. I've already visited many churches and temples of some 20 or more religions, I guess, but no momron (as Hobbes says) church.

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Jacare Sorridente
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Eduardo- there are most defintiely a large number of churches in Rio.
Here is a list of the ones inside the city:

link

We can all be friends and stuff. Anyone's beliefs seem weird to those who don't share those beliefs, but that's OK. I think everyone is at least somewhat weird.

Narnia- what mission did you serve in?

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I'm sure that there is a church in Rio de Janeiro.

You can also read more about the LDS beliefs at this website (and they even have it in Portugese [Smile] ).

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Anna
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Here in France there are a lot of Catholics (I will actually marry one [Big Grin] , so if you have any question about catholicism I may be able to answer) but I for myself believe in God but am not in a particular religion.

[ October 28, 2003, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]

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Eduardo_Sauron
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Anna: I (most brazilians are) was born a Catholic. My whole family is catholic ;-))

Jacare: Nice! There is a LDS Church only 5 minutes from my home. I know the street (although I do not remember the church). Well, maybe I will pay it a visit, hehehe (wow! One more!) - The services are spoken in english?

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Thank you Ludo, your link is very intersting !
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Eduardo [Blushing]
I didn't realize that.

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Anna: no prob. [Wink]

Brazil is the largest catholic country in the world. Although many people follow african-derived religions (as Candomblé, or Umbanda), more than 77% of the people are Catholic.

We have about 160 million people over here, so there are some 123 million catholic brazilians.

Yup...vatican still have clout here, although so caled neo-pentecostal protestant churches have grown a lot in the latest 20 or so years.

Hope you found that interesting. [Smile]

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I'm a nothing. I don't have a religion, but I'm interested in them all.
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I'm just a Christian.

...okay, okay, I belong to the church of Christ.

...and yes, I think you're all going to hell! Nyah nyah nyah!! [Razz]

[Wink]

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Eduardo...nice to meet you! When I was in university I took a world religions class that approached that subject by looking at the religions of Brazil. (My professor had spent several years in Brazil as a Mennonite Brethren missionary, so she knew a lot about Brazil and it's wide variety of religions.)

We studied Kardec and Spiritism, as well as Candomble and Umbanda and the different manifestations of Christianity in Brazil. Spiritism struck me as being very different from the Afro-Brazilian religions such as Camdomble and Umbanda. We read a book about Spiritism, called "Samba in the Night: Spiritism in Brazil", by David J. Hess. He is an American who went to Brazil and studied all about Spiritism. I assume that his book was fairly accurate, but I would love to hear more about your beliefs - from what we learned, it is a very interesting religion.

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I'm Lutheran.

(sighs and makes ready to perpetuate Midwestern Lutheran stereotypes)

So, who wants bars, I made them for our church potluck! I would have made lutefisk, but I ran out of lye... [Roll Eyes]

[ October 28, 2003, 09:51 PM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]

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I'm a recovering Catholic.

[Smile]

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I'm an Orthodox Jew. I'm also agnostic.

I majored in religion in college, concentrating in Christianity.

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Cool! I minored in Theology!
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Really? Wasn't it fun? (I assume you majored in education?)
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I enjoyed it! It was a great middle ground between philosophy and history. I was not an education major, but I am a teacher, fwiw.

[Smile]

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I was baptized, raised, and confirmed Roman Catholic, but my father is Methodist, so I've been taught the beliefs of both religions. My parents have always told me I could believe in whatever religion I wanted to, but I don't have that many arguments with the Catholic faith. [Wink]

Bit of background for you non-Catholics: When Catholics 'confirm their baptismal promises'--basically, when they embrace Catholicism--they take a saint name. So, technically, my full name is Mayday Desaix Nicholas. I'm a big girl who likes to buy presents for people. Mwahahahaha.

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I come from catholic family background - but wasn't raised catholic. Our country (Slovakia) is predominantly catholic!!! But as for me, I am a christian, just christian.

If you want to know the church - Church of Christ [Smile]

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I'm Jewish *dances* [Smile]
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I'm a mormon.

I can't think of anything funny or random to say [Frown] maybe I need sleep.

[ October 29, 2003, 04:44 AM: Message edited by: Liquor and Fireworks ]

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pretty much Fundamentalist Christian (Bible Church)
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I was born in the Baptist bible belt of Nova Scotia and my atheist parents went out of their way to expose me to religion. But in the end, like father like son, I do not believe in God.
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I'm a recovered Catholic and a former Baha'i, now agnostic.
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I was raised catholic but have not been a very active participant for a few years now. I have felt a bit unfulfilled by the masses and customs and just haven't made any real efforts to find something that hits me any stronger.
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Mormon by birth and conviction, with Mormon, Lutheran, Catholic, Baptist, and agnostic relatives.

[ October 29, 2003, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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