quote: Come now, we all know how the series will end. Harry will wake up and discover it was all jut a dream...
Hobbes, I'll admit I've had the same thought myself. And if that's the case, I see Voldemort as just the evil side of Harry. Notice how Voldemort was presumed dead for all those years until (what a coincidence!) Harry goes to Hogwarts. Ginny is in love with both Harry and the human side of Voldemort (Tom Riddle). There are other hints of this. Of course, I may be completely crazy too.
As for those saying Harry never gives anything to his friends--the books are told from his perspective, and even at Christmas, there is no mention of the gifts he gave his friends. I don't think that means he didn't give them any, it just wasn't important enough to include in the narrative, at least from Harry's point of view. Granted, he is quite self-centerend, especially in the 5th book. However, if any one of us had a book written from our own perspective, we'd come across as pretty self-absorbed as well. The 5th book painted a more realistic picture of how the main character was truly feeling, unlike the earlier books, where he came across as a cardboard-thin cartoon character at times.
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quote: "For many years, writing the Harry Potter books was the most important thing in Joanne's life," said publicist Mark Knowles, who is "just good friends" with Rowling. "She's been experiencing a lot of changes lately. She still wants to keep in touch with her fans, but she doesn't feel she can sit in a room at her computer all day while there are so many cute boys running around."
quote: "I can't believe she would give up something she worked so hard on, just because people might think it's not 'cool,'" said Nancy Listrom, a Boston resident and fan of the Harry Potter books. "I blame that Mindy girl. She's a bad influence."
Added Listrom: "And I can't believe her publicist allows her to show up at a bookstore appearance dressed in that pink skirt. It barely covers her butt. Her writing is a better way to get attention."
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maybe when voldemort finally dies (cause he's going to), harry's scar will disappear... and he'll be sad because it was such a part of him. But the anger from Voldemort that kept it there will have faded.
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I think Harry will kill He Who Must Not Be Named, but then I think he will go bad and fight Ron and Hermoine. I think Hermoine will kill Harry.
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"Hermione was a character in Greek mythology who was loved by two men. She was the daughter of Helen of Troy and Menelaus. These men (Orestes 2 and Neoptolemus, the son of Achilles) fought terribly for the love of the beautiful Hermione (Krum and Ron?). Orestes 2 was killed by a snake. Could this mean that either Ron or Krum will die at the hands of Lord Voldemort (whose symbol is a snake?)."
The name use just a coincidence?
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No way, Dumbledore is going to die saving Harry and then Harrys going to kill Voldemort. I think it will be Hermione and Ron and Harr with someone else...perhaps Cho?
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Javert, I don't think ANY name JKR chooses is a coincidence. She named Lupin that because he's a werewolf, and Sirius is named after the dog star. ::looks around at baby name sites:: Here's some more interesting ones. Argus means vigilant and alert, and Filch is that, Minerva means goddess of wisdom, and Ronald means advisor to the king. Too bad I couldn't find an entry for Albus.
As for who's going to die, it's going to be Lupin for sure, and I think Harry will die, too.
I'm iffy on this one. Poetically it kinda works, but I was pretty sure that the prophecy or something said that one of them (Harry and Voldemort) would die so that the other could live, or that they both can't live, or something like that. I can't remember and my husband has my book 5 at work, but isn't there something in there that implies that for Harry to live, Voldy must die and if Voldy wants to live, he has to kill Harry? I thought only one of them could live.
Oooh! Voldy kills Harry, and we find out that Neville was really the "boy of prophecy" all along! Neville kills Voldy, marries his good friend Ginny, and Ron and Hermione get together like they were meant to do.
It's annoying that Rowling seems to think that it's obvious who Hermione will end up with. Based on cute little jokes and pointed hints here and there, Ron would get the girl. But based on actual chemistry and physical closeness, Harry wins hands down.
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Albus means white.
The name thing doesn't always work. Remus has a twin named Romulus, but Rowling has said that it definitely won't be like that in the books.
So I go to the gym to forget my nasty experience with a twit online, and I end up next to one on the precor machine.
I've become quite friendly with a lady named Joy. We've really talked about lots of ... life stuff, and I thought we knew each other pretty well. Her son got out of prison last year (the oldest, I think. She has four sons and a daughter).
Anyway, one of the TVs showed a PoA ad, and I commented that I really wanted to see it. *sigh*
"You want to see that trash?"
OMG
This is totally not my day.
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Olivetta, that is so annoying! I was in Jury Duty this week and I was reading PoA during lunch in the Juror room. One of the other Jurors says, "Oh, you like Harry Potter?"
I say, "Yeah."
She says, "I can't get into it. I think they're terrible. Did you see the movie?"
Me: "Yep, two nights ago."
Her: "I'm not interested. It doesn't look very good."
GRRR. So much for making friendly conversation. Here, let me figure out what interests you so that I can bash it while you're trying to enjoy it.
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Olivia, I know exactly what you mean. I had this conversation on a date the other day:
(As he's flipping through my Harry Potter book on the table)
Me: "Have you read those?" Him: "No, I'm not part of the Harry Potter cult." Me: "Aw, they're wonderful." Him: "Yeah, no." He wrinkled his nose. Me: "Come on Jason, give in to the magic," I teased him. Him:"Give in to the magic? Oh good grief."
Yeah. That's not going anywhere. I think we both looked equally horrified.
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Several friends of mine are like that. They say, no way am I going to read Harry Potter. And my mother thinks it's satanic. More for me, I reckon. They don't know what they are missing, but if people don't like dark chocolate, more for me Posts: 9942 | Registered: Mar 2003
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I jst said, "So you think Harry Potter's evil?" I was almost laughing.
She advized her kids agains Harry Potter and Pokemon, but her daughter is into LotR a lot. I told her I thought there was very little difference between LotR and HP (as far as 'magic' and stuff goes). The other thing she mentioned was the tendency of kids to obsess over HP, as if tha proved it and Pokemon were evil. But kids obsess over LotR, too. Cobb co. tried to ban the HP books from public schools.
I made a comparison to the simple-minded banning of Huck Finn (It has the n-word in it so it must be racist) when it was in fact a very anti-slavery book.
I think she even sort of mentioned Liam's behavioral problems, in a backhanded way, but I took the high road and didn't mention that at least he'd never been in jail.
She even brought columbine into it, though I'm pretty sure she was trying to steer away from HP at that point. I mean, they weren't going around the school shouting "Crucio!" at people.
Sooooo VERY not my day. *shakes head*
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Actually, I went back and clarified my post, because falling as it did immediately after yours, it looked like I was addressing you (and it made sense, too, as a continuation of our GreNME conversation from yesterday).
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Jebus, people can have different opinions. But this lady wasn't looking for a conversation about the pros or cons of HP. She just sat there while I was trying to read and repeatedly bashed what I was reading with no prompting from me. I consider it a tad rude to interrupt someone who's reading, especially to insult their choice of reading material.
I'm saying all this because I'm assuming you are being sarcastic.
And wouldn't you say that
quote: "No, I'm not part of the Harry Potter cult."
is kind of insulting, even when said nicely?
Another annoyance:
My husband's best friend is totally anti-HP, even though his girlfriend loves it. (That's fine.) He tells us he will never read it and refuses to see the movie. (Also his prerogative.) So when his girlfriend, my husband, our mutual friend, and I made plans to see the movie, what did this guy do? He went WITH us to the theater, complained about HP while we were driving there, insisted on sitting outside of the theater doing nothing while we were watching it, and convinced our mutual friend to sit out there with him so he wouldn't be alone.
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Jebus, it wasn't her opinion that bothered me so much as her delivery.
I mentioned wanting to see a movie, and she called the HP stuff 'trash.' That is offensive. She's entitled to her opinion, just as I am entitled to think she is an idiot.
However, I try not to comment negatively on stuff people casually mention being interested in.
I mean, I could understand if I'd said something like, "That Harry Potter kid is really hot."
I don't make fun of Scoffield's notes or Scripture Press. And I COULD, believe me.
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"I'm not part of the Harry Potter cult" wouldn't really have to be rude, if it were said in a light hearted way. It all depends on the relationship between the two people. In kat's case, it doesn't sound like it was rude, but it does sound like it revealed a fundamental difference in personality, or more probably underscored it.
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I think Olivia and PSI get awards for not pretending to cast Crucio on those rude people.
My friend's hubby is on the "Harry Potter" is evil kick, and so is my neighbor. Yet both of them are big LotR fans. In fact my neighbor got Olivia a fairy magnet set for her birthday that happened to have a wizard magnet, and they made a huge deal of it being a Tolkien wizard instead of a Rowling wizard. (Yes! It's Saruman! Much less evil than Harry!) Took me almost a week to figure out why.
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quote: My husband's best friend is totally anti-HP, even though his girlfriend loves it. (That's fine.) He tells us he will never read it and refuses to see the movie. (Also his prerogative.) So when his girlfriend, my husband, our mutual friend, and I made plans to see the movie, what did this guy do? He went WITH us to the theater, complained about HP while we were driving there, insisted on sitting outside of the theater doing nothing while we were watching it, and convinced our mutual friend to sit out there with him so he wouldn't be alone.
This makes me angry just reading it. If he didn't want to see it, why did he come along? I don't understand.
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Just to get back to the name thing...Albus Dumbledore, apparently, means White Bumblebee. Is he an animagus?
"I do not need a cloak to become invisible."
Is there a bee always wandering around watching the school?
As far as Remus not having a twin, that's true. But Romulus and Remus were suckled by a shewolf...so it's just more wolf imagery for Lupin.
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This kind of thing is why I love Rowling's writing. Her attention to detail is exquisite, and she's got to plan all this stuff first, because it can't just come up randomly.
It wouldn't seem like Dumbledore would be an animagus, otherwise Hermione would have mentioned it after she went to look up McGonagal. But then I can't think of any other reason why JKR would name him Dumbledore.
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Dude, Dumbledore is totally Godric Gryffindor on the Philosopher's Stone elixir of life. That's why he's got an immortal familiar.
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I can't imagine Dumbledore being that selfish. And doesn't it say in the book that when Harry sees him in Riddle's diary that he looks younger? It seems like the elixir of life wouldn't let him age.
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Yeah, for a while in book 2 I thought he was Gryffindor, but later, meh...
I don't think Harry will die. She's said before that "it's not impossible- I can never rule it out" that she would write more harry potter books after book 7. Sounds like he lives, to me.
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Anybody seen The Dark Crystal? Harry and Voldemort will merge in the end, and the world will be right once more. Hermione will end up with Ron (that's fairly obvious), but she might have a fling with Harry.
I think Harry really is quite selfish, and I like that. He is not a good guy by nature. He has the potential for evil within him - even the Sorting Hat saw that. Perhaps Slytherin House would have been better for him. I'm really intrigued to see how this all works out.
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Operaetta asked me for a red marker earlier today. I gave it to her, assuming that she was going to color with it. Since then she has been walking around with a HP scar drawn on her forehead with aforementioned red marker.
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Seems like Rowling's books are far more planned out than others. I mean, Sirius was named "Sirius," right from the start, so that meant she had been thinking of him as an Animagus right from the start, too, right? I know that originally it was a muggle who ratted out the Potters, and eventually it turned into Pettigrew, but still..
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Dumbledore could be an unregistered Animagus.
Somewhat OT, but does anyone else hear the voice of the portrait of Sirius Black's mother as the voice of Principal Skinner's mother?
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Maybe Dumbledore is a metamorphagus or whatever-the-heck that thing is. That would explain how he could look younger in the old memories. OH! I know! Tonks is Dumbledore! Posts: 6367 | Registered: Aug 2003
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