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King of Men
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Two questions about it : First, who is it owed to? And second, if the US decides not to honour some portion of the debt, who will lose money, and are they in a position to do anything about it?
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The Rabbit
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The US national debt is owed to people who hold US Treasury Bills, Notes, Bonds, United States Savings Bonds and State and Local Government securities.
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So, mainly US citizens and businesses? Or people in other places as well?
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Actually I believe other countries own portions of our national debt too. It gives them a bit of econmic leverage over the U.S. Though we probably own lots of their debt too.

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http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/faq.html

the info is a little dated but gives a good pie chart.

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Interesting that the biggest piece of the pie is owed to the Federal Reserve. Most average American assume the Federal Reserve is part of the government, but it is NOT -- it is wholly owned outside of the government.

So basically at this point, a large financial conglomerate (Federal Reserve) "own" the federal government -- in as much as the government is so indebted to the Reserve that it is unlikely the two will ever separate.

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Some more data.

Approximately half of the national debt is held by the Federal Reserve the other half is privately held.

Of the privately held portion

9.7% pension funds
8.4% Mutual funds
6.0% US savings bonds
10.2% State and local governments
4.5% insurance companies
45.5% Foreign and international
4.6% Depository institutions
11.1% Other investors

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Do you know if the Canadian debt is the same sort of thing, a large part owned by a reserve or some such thing?
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