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This is a link to a film that puts a classic bit from the Dead Alewives (a bit that's nearly twenty years old, in fact) into the mouths of the 8-bit Theater characters -- themselves taken from the old Final Fantasy games. The same sound file was used in recent memory in a Flash ad for the game "Summoner," and featured the characters from THAT game.
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The Dead Alewives did a sequel to that bit that may be even funnier in places. Although it goes on a little long.
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Question -- when was the last time any of you guys heard anybody seriously denouncing RPGs as evil? I heard it a fair amount in the early '90s in Oklahoma, but I haven't heard it for a long time.
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Actually...my daughter is dealing with this issue at school. She reads fantasy novels that some of her classmates have prejudged to have a "non-Christian" theme. She also plays RPGs and has been harrassed by the same creatures about them being evil. It's not dead, just settling in different places. I was really hoping not to have to deal with it at all,but...
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I hear lots of people mocking those that thing fantasy is evil, but I don't hear anybody actually believing that anymore. I was just wondering if it is a thing of the past, or if I just don't deal with people that would say that to my face.
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*snort* We're fundamentalist Christian and we play RPG's all the time (as a family) and love it. I have never heard it denounced from the pulpit.
It's one of those "all things in moderation" things, ya know. I suppose there are people who can get obsessed with them and all that, but I think that is a problem with the person, not the game.
I mean - how can you shun RPG and not shun all fiction? Most people can easily mentally separate reality from fiction, so it is just a game...
I agree with you completely. I worry about how far some Christians take this anti-imagination belief (and basically that is what it is). One of the girls in my daughter's class didn't get to go see Shrek last year (private end of school year party) because her parents won't let her watch that sort of thing.
We are a Christian family and we game too. It's good for their imaginations. God imagined us, why wouldn't He want us to imagine too?
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"I mean - how can you shun RPG and not shun all fiction?"
While some people do indeed shun all fiction, the simple answer for many fundamentalists seems to be: fiction with angels = good; fiction with elves = bad.
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I'll agree that FRP games can be done in a dark way that can cause evil and harm. But so can exercising, or eating, washing your hands, etc.
For the most part, the biggest evil present in RPGs is that they are a huge waste of time. (this comes from someone currently playing in Twinky's PBEM D&D game)
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Tom -- I'd go further and say that for those people, any magic used in fiction is interpreted as witchcraft, and any fantasy creature is interpreted as a demon/devil.
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Things aren't evil until we, as humans, add the evil. I've met evil RPGers (my ex--haha) but I've never encountered a game that was inately evil. Also, for people to be led to other, nasty things through the game, they've already got to have other problems (deep problems) going in.
Evil can be found everywhere---even inside the church. I think sometimes the real evil is when people prejudge things and push people to live within their view of what God wants.
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Vulcans -- definitely. In fact, the original idea for Spock was that he would be half-martian, have red skin, yellow eyes, and pointy ears. He was supposed to look like a devil.
And the person that Roddenberry offered that part to was DeForrest Kelly (Bones). Kelly wanted no part of being a devil-martian.
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