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I've been lurking for a while, so you guys don't know anything about me, and i know a little about you... not really fair a? :-p
Anyway, i grew up in Indianapolis and i now go to school in Vincennes.
My question that i put up for debate, is what you guys feel the legal age should be to be considered an adult. Currently it's accepted at 18 for legal stuff, such as marrige, 21 for alcohol, and 16 for sexual consent.
My girlfriend is 17 and goes to school in Indy still, and recently had severe problems with her only gardian, to the point where she called the police. The police told her that her mother was allowed to discipline her however she felt it was necessary. In this case, in including punching her in the face hard enough to break her lip, because she didnt answer the phone.
Her school called child protective services and due to some comments she made about killing herself, she is in a hospital. Due to the law being that at 17 she is still a minor, the only person allowed to see her is her mother. When her mother is the reason she is in the hospital in the first place... Now this has been bothering me for a week, does it make sence to anyone else? I've been dating her for 2 years, and i havnt been able to talk to her since last wendsday because her mother has full control over her "call list"
If shes old enough to drop out of school, and emancipate herself, shouldnt she be old enough to make a phone call?
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It's a line that is continuously changing and is based on Psychological science, which is continuously changing.
There is the recent practice of "emancipation" of a Child where he/she becomes their own guardian (it's how Pedo-marriages in the future will come into play IMHO).
It's basically going to court to prove you are responsible for your own actions and having your guardians removed.
If you fear she is in danger or will be scarred for life if she has to wait another year, get a lawyer and she can sue for "emancipation".
If not, she only needs to wait a little longer before she's her own agent and then there isn't legally anything her mother can do.
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at the cops. Why weren't they the one to call child protective services??
And besides sticking her in a hospital, what is child protective services doing for her? Why is her mother still her guardian?
You probably don't know this, but how is the hospital dealing with the situation? Will they deny the mother visitation if she asks for it?
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But QuinnM knows this girl. Why should he accept someone else's story, rather than that of the girl he knows and trusts?
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quote:(it's how Pedo-marriages in the future will come into play IMHO).
Please elaborate how you think this will happen, because as I understand American law, even with parental/guardian approval, court approval is often also required when a person is 16 years of age or less. I can't say I have huge amounts of faith in US law, but surely this would not be allowed to occur.
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unfortunetly i cannot answer the questions about what is going on, as i have no idea... the hospital wont talk to me since her mom says they cant, and her mom wont talk to me... i only found out where she was and what was going on from her god parents
as for her moms side of the story, she told the police officers that her daughter "verbally" abused her... know how afraid my gf is of her mother (who is currently an active army officer), i dont see that happening
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Let me give you a reason why. It's personal, but very valid.
I have a family member who suffers from mild Cerbral Palsy. That member of my family has abused her parents. Police have been involved. If you ask her, she didn't do anything. If you have been there when these things occurr, then you know that's not the case as she gets it in her head to attack/hurt them.
I'm not saying what he has heard isn't true, just that there are two sides to every story and that we may not know the whole case here.
Just saying to be cautious is all.
I hope everything works out.
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Chad, perhaps you should consider the similarities of Papa Moose's statement to someone's recent argument in a political thread.
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Hmm, well that makes it difficult. Unfortunately, unless she is able to emancipate herself, or prove the threat of future emotional/physical harm, she's going to be under the influence of her guardian.
Why won't her mother talk to you? Does she dislike you and why?
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Do you mind if I ask how old you are? That may have implication in this crisis and it would help me think about what advice or direction to give.
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I'm 19, and her mom wont talk to me because, well, shes psyco...
i really cant think of a better way to put it... she doesnt dislike me, we buy eachother stuff when we go on trips, she got me a DVD player for xmas...
but she is just crazy, i almost want to say bi-polar... sometimes shes really nice, but most of the time she is just rude and nasty
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Quinn, I apologize at the attempted hijack by others of your thread. It appears I have a following of "groupies".
I empathize with your situation. I can't say I've been in the same situation, but you really have no idea why she won't talk to you? Have you asked her why she won't talk to you and perhaps give her your reasons your concerned.
At least that is something. Keep trying.
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Well, twice I have asked you to elaborate on a position you have stated. Once in this thread, once in the "Wrong War, Wrong Place, Wrong Time?" thread.
Neither time did I get a reply. Other people have also asked direct questions, and had you not reply - often when it seems that you don't have an answer. That was what I was referring to.
It also makes your comment in the pro-family thread rather amusing.
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If CFS has been called, the only thing I can think of is to call them and say you have information on the case. But, if you didn't witness anything directly, they probably won't want to talk to you.
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In this state, you can call in with an anonymous tip and they can screen it in or out at their own will.
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