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ClaudiaTherese
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... discuss anything about the importance of "buy-ins" or "signing a commitment to change."

... hear "access" or "process" used as a verb again.

... be asked obvious questions by someone making a presentation and writing answers on a whiteboard.

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Dagonee
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You have to get with the new paradigm, CT.
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Buy-in, used properly, is a very important concept in modern day social thought. Business people do tend to run roughshod over the definition, though [Wink] .
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Elizabeth
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Your hiatus is going very well, Sara. Hee hee.
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*shudder* I spent three hours this morning in a meeting in which my boss used the word "buy-in" sixty-three times. We counted.

He also said that we need to, and I quote, "shoot our ducks in a barrel."

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You gotta make room for the monkeys, Tom.
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Elizabeth
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Well, Tom, at least "buy-in" won out over "freedom."
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O_o I never want to work in business. It sounds like high school.

[ February 04, 2005, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]

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quote:
... be asked obvious questions by someone making a presentation and writing answers on a whiteboard.
*Shudders*

Hobbes [Smile]

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Dagonee
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"OK, so what is it our customers want from us?"

"Not to die!"

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quote:
hear "access" or "process" used as a verb again.
According the the OED process was used as a verb 400 years ago and has been in common use in the english language since that time.

The use of access as a transative verb seems to have started with advent of computers with the first use, reported in the OED, in 1962.

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I hate the term "product" as used by sales people.

How much "product" do you have on hand?

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Rabbit, it was just overused today. Trust me.

I am entertaining myself by calculating how long it would take to cram my entire body through a wood chipper.

Still 1.5 hours to go. [Frown]

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You're in the meeting now? Let us know the next question and we'll make suggestions.
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I'm hanging in there with you, CT. I have an hour left on a 6-hour shift that's the last of a 24-hour week. (We're technically only supposed to have 20 hours a week, but the term started on Wednesday. [Frown] )
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Actually, if you play The Punisher on xbox, you can see the woodchipping body in action.

*twitch*

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quote:
. be asked obvious questions by someone making a presentation and writing answers on a whiteboard.
The best way to respond in the situation is give something other than the obvious answer but which at least tangentally addresses the question.

example: The Sunday School teacher asks "What are the Ten Commandments"

Response 1: "The Mosaic Decalogue"

Response 2: "a slang term for a woman's ten fingernails (claws)"

Response 3: "One of the best book's of poetry of 1998"

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quote:
I am entertaining myself by calculating how long it would take to cram my entire body through a wood chipper.
A long time, if you were doing it yourself.
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What you really need to do is leverage your synergistic potential, access your place in the process and offer logistical advances toward a fulsim whole.

[Evil Laugh]

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Liz, there's actually a good reason they use Product instead of Item or some other seemingly more appropriate synonym.

Product can mean anything no matter what the unit of measure. So say you sell an item in three units of measure: ea, bx, or pallet. If you don't care what unit you're talking about, it makes some sense to just call it the product, rather than the item, which intimates the smallest unit.

I only say this because that's how I refer to products our customers sell, since we offer the ability to keep count in multiple units of measure and generally, I don't care which one they mean, just as long as the answer is not Zero.

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I have a great business-speak story myself.

I was once told, in a one-on-one meeting with my manager about the need to for me to be in synergy with the company.

At the time, I was working for IBM. The whole incident, being a fresh college grad, would have seemed cliched, had it not happened to me.

-Bok

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"What are different ways of transmitting information?"

-lecture
-textbook
-website
-peer advice
...

<zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...>

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Long boring meetings they keep us in until we promise to keep up with our journal reading.
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I am having violent fantasies of blood and gore. Not my own, BTW.
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CT, you've got to leverage, resourcify and allocationalize.
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We are in a computer lab being taught about how to access Cochrane Reviews. I have been using Cochrane since 1996.
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CT, is anyone at that meeting named Bill?! [Evil Laugh]
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Funniest one of these bizspeak meetings I went to, the guy kept talking about meshing our potentials or something like that accompanied with appropriate hand gestures. The client and I had laughs about it for months afterwards.
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(((Ryuko)))

We are two kittens hanging from a tree branch.

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The most important advice for biz meetings--the one with the biggest bladder, wins.
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I don't want to win. I want to dive into a wood chipper.

Preferably feet-first, as there are larger blood vessels in the legs than the arms. Flow is proportional to the radius to the fourth power, right? Poiseuille's Law.

Ah, but areterial flow is not strictly laminar, but pulsatile. Hmmm.

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CT: [ROFL] You are my hero. ((((CT))))
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I'm going home!!!!
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[Wave]
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Bob, until we changed CEO's at the beginning of last year, those sorts of meetings were frequent events.

Now we have a CEO who must have gone to mime school. We haven't had a company meeting since he started.I wonder sometimes what he'd do if he were locked in an invisible box.

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(thank you for the entertainment. I am free!!! Until 8 am. [Frown] And I think there is no computer access tomorrow. *sigh)

quote:
"OK, so what is it our customers want from us?"

"Not to die!"

I'll try to keep that in mind. *drily
[Wink]

[ February 04, 2005, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]

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But seriously, CT, business has its own jargon just like medicine. From now on, you must call the liver "The big one" and the uvula "That thing that hangs down the middle/back of your throat."
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"I'm a doctor, Jim, not a business person!"

[Wink]

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I am working on a sci-fi mystery story set in the future where they have professional translators to communicate between professions. Every day it seems to come closer to a necessity.
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There definitely were (and will be today, I'm sure) useful parts. I just get all itchy when I'm trapped in a seat being told things that

a) I already know,
b) don't make sense to me, or
c) have no relevance to my work.

I cannot be rude. I cannot. These are sincere and dedicated people who are trying their best to help us be more effective, more successful, and more productive. I appreciate that, and I honor it. And I am so very grateful for the parts which are wonderfully useful.

And when I have to, I contemplate exactly how long the nail is that I would drive into my head with a hammer in order to get out of there.

But then I pay attention again and learn something important and useful, and it makes it all okay. Really, the main problem is that I'm an introvert, and social interactions drain me. That isn't anyone's fault, it just is.

And I do have the best boss ever -- smart, kind, very very good at what he does, and a phenomenal mentor. The woman who runs this weekend seminar is also one of the most interesting people I know, and she's a great physician. Great role model. I should be counting my blessings.
[ *diving back in ]

[ February 05, 2005, 09:03 AM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]

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Conversation between Significant Other and self:

Him: "Never confuse having a really good meeting with actually accomplishing something."

Me: "What did you do at work today?"

Him: "Had a really good meeting."

Lisa

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quote:
Really, the main problem is that I'm an introvert, and social interactions drain me.
Ugh. I know what you mean.

I can handle functional interactions alright. But when there's time for not-on-point conversation with people other than friends or family, I find it excruciating.

Dagonee

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One thing I can do is talk to anyone about anything, at great length. Even if I am feeling shy, I just babble my way through it.
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Heck, Sara, *I've* been using Cochrane for 3 years.

And I'm not even a medical student!

[Smile]

I have been working as an admin assistant in a GP training department for 2 years. They were amazed at my "IT" skills. I didn't have the heart to tell them that if you know one online database (plus a smidgeon of common sense), you know them all

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I think I've said this before, but this thread makes me want to reiterate it.

Sara, if I can possibly ever arrange it I really want you to meet my mother. (Of course, I want to meet you as well, and that would be first priority in my list. [Smile] )

But my mother is an amazing amazing woman and doctor and from what I have seen of you, the same description applies.

Woman also implies human - I am not idolising either of you. But I would be very happy to host a dinner party with both of you there. (*very* happy).

And if my mother and I ever get to the US again, I may bug you. [Wink]

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I'm assuming Australia has online legal databases like Lexis/Nexis and Westlaw, right? That's good training for any research.
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Yes to both.

So - as you would know - any online research deal is pretty much the same.

Edit: Although I have been suprised by my friends doing Medicine who had not encountered online research in any form by 4th year. I understand that the schools here are emphasising clinical based medicine, but that emphasis doesn't happen until 3rd year. It seems in first and second year med, students are simply taught, and not encouraged to research at all.

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See now, this is one of those times where being a MUD player comes in unbelievably handy. As long as you have a computer and a net connection you can play em. And they are very entertaining. The only danger is that something bad happens and you start frantically typing, and the guy giving the presentation notices... Or even worse, you die and start swearing... no, I haven't done that before, really! Honest! (different situation of presentation, as I am a high schooler, but same sort of bullox)
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I just babble my way through it. --Elizabeth

Hmmmm, that explains a lot of posts...

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[Wave] [Hail] Naughty Morbo.
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