Topic: Oh Canada! The nation with a little work will be effed up the least!
Blayne Bradley
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Seriously consider me this:
Canada has pretty much 2 provinces devoted to farming.
Alberta oil sands if exploited are more then enough to fulfill all of our needs.
We are a technologically advanced society with excellent infastructure and a determined population and thus less dependent on other nations for brains.
Quebec and BC make for most if not all of our manufacturing needs.
Exports in Oil, fresh water, maple syrup and hockey cards should be more then enough to make us enough money should we reorganize our economy a little to keep the budger balanced.
Thus IMHO Canada can be self sufficient and the least effected by Peak Oil and similar.
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Yes, but you'll be drawn into the coming world war and lose everything.
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Blayne Bradley
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not really we can give America the finger and close our borders and post extra mounties along the trails.
After all who the hell would invade us??? We're the Number 1 most respected nation, if I were to go to Holland I'ld get free stuff and a bunch of local girls just waiting to jump me and drag me into the bushes for a chat .
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America would have to take back its auto plants, so you couldn't ride around in crappy renamed versions of GM cars anymore.
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We can make our own cars, we did once a long time ago, nationalize the motor plants in our country and use them to make our own cars.
And I;m just saying if the global economy goes down the drain after a bit of a drop we can scrap together a decent living on just what we have here around us.
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No offense, man, but your "estimates" of our industrial/economic production potential is way, way off.
Specific example: Oil. Right now, Alberta oil sands production is almost a million barrels of oil a day, while our domestic refining capacity is only able to handle about a quarter of that. Most of the oil sands crude (which is heavy in sulfur and other elements that make it harder/more expensive to refine) ends up in American mid-west refineries.
All our projected industry growth in oil sands alone is totally dependant on technology and expertise from the US, China and Japan. How do you expect us to refine enough oil to survive if we cut them off?
Also; How much do you like using your computer? Ever think you'll want a new one? How is Canada supposed to suddenly aquire the technology and know-how to produce silicon-wafer circuitry in mass amounts? How about LCD panels? Or hard-disk platters? Do you realize that Canada (like most nations) produces almost none of the high technology our country relies on daily?
And what would you want to seal us off from the US (or the rest of the world, for that matter)anyway? What's US done that's so wrong?
Like the rest of the 1st world, we (speaking as a Canadian) are totally dependant on many, many other nations. If the global economy "collapses", we'll have to ride it out like everyone else. We are all connected. Haven't you ever heard of the "Circle of Life"? :0)
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quote: not really we can give America the finger and close our borders and post extra mounties along the trails.
Blayne, nothing personal, but if America decided that we wanted Canada, you'd be able to "close your borders" for all of five, maybe six minutes. Canada benefits enormously from the fact that its only actual neighbor is pretty darn benevolent.
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Blayne Bradley
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Ok if the global economy collapses what does it matter? We probly one of the FEW countries not totally dependent on another country for SURVIVAL sure if the global economy is fine sure lets trade and make some money for healthcare.
I don't want canada to go isolentionist + 8 on me but I take confort in the fact that we could so it if we find ourselves in dire straights.
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Blayne Bradley
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Hey Tom we burned down the White house dispite the fact that you were an enourmously bigger country back then too. You come up here with your military entrenched in Iraq and Afghanistan as it is, during Winter and you'll have a grand time.
To us Canadians the snow keeps us warm and our beer cold what more could we want?
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Geez, thanks Tom. We silly and immature Canadians always need to be reminded of the benevolence of our nieghbours to the south - I am thankful every day that the US allows us independance by thoghtfully not invading us.
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Blayne Bradley
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Wonder Dog... That was the finest bit of sarcasm I've ever seen.
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I like most of the Canadians I've met in person.
A lot of the virtual ones seem to harbor this immense anger, though. Why is that?
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Blayne Bradley
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I've seen/heard enough to recnonize which is funny and which is just someone being an ass.
As for behaving younger so what? How am I acting younger exaclty? For appreciating a good joke? For starting a discussion about my country's abilties? How am I acting younger then I am?
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I'm mainly referring to the bombast, though there are other aspects as well (spelling among them). I'll leave you to discuss as you wish, though.
Seriously, though, my advice is to tone it down a bit. This particular forum tends much more toward civilized discussion than angry, bombastic discourse (uh...on its good days, anyway ).
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Blayne Bradley
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What anger? I'm not directing any against america, is this the purpose of the thread? No, I'm just pointing out what is possible given the circumstances.
If I seem particularily angry its because I'm being critized unfairly which happens fairly often in real life and non real life.
As for anything involving America I don't see how I was particularily angry or spiteful except in my second post which if I may point out, if America tries to drag us into a world war we the Canadian people do not want that is the somewhat what the Canadian government will do to prevent ourselves from getting dragged into said hypothetical war.
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quote: We silly and immature Canadians always need to be reminded of the benevolence of our nieghbours to the south - I am thankful every day that the US allows us independance by thoghtfully not invading us.
It's a symbiotic relationship. We allow you to exist, and you provide us with comedians. Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999
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Blayne Bradley
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See! Even Tom can appreciate a good joke right Tom?
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quote:I've seen/heard enough to recnonize which is funny and which is just someone being an ass.
Have you listened to yourself lately, then?
You start off by saying you can give the US the finger and bar us from your country, then cry foul when someone disagrees with you about that?
It's not like anyone suggested actually invading Canada, right? Not even in jest? And if they were, you brought it up first...and that is as likely as anything else you ahve suggested here...
Which is to say not likely at all. Posts: 15082 | Registered: Jul 2001
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Please understand that this . . . person does NOT represent all Canadians. *sigh* Or even all Canadian humour.
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quote:A lot of the virtual ones seem to harbor this immense anger, though.
This is certainly the case for me. Aspects of America make me angry... heck, aspects of most countries make me angry, but America comes up here a lot more often. However, in person, I am a mild mannered person who doesn't argue a point very hard or long because I'm not so praticed on the verbal front or willing to take to the time to make the confrontation. Here, in virtual written land, it's a little easier, so I think I come across as harbouring a lot of fury. I apologise sincerely, Scott, because I know you mean me too.
I'm very mellow in person though, Scott R. I doubt that if we met in person I'd argue with you about anything! I just like to get along.
Blayne, you are being a little childish. We are a good country, in my opinion; we do a lot of things right. But we are a long, long way from perfect or entirely self sufficient. If America closed its trade and/or borders with us, we would suffer. However, so would America, so we need to keep those relations friendly and those borders open, for both our sakes.
If a war broke out and America was involved, Canada would be strongly affected. It is a very close relationship. Whatever happens in America affects us (which is why, by the way, I do tend to get angry about American issues I want to talk about because you're all so darn close! and rich! and influential! It's kind of scary!). We're both in this together, whether we like it or not.
You are right, Blayne. Canada is a respected nation. However, that reputation doesn't include
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quote:if I were to go to Holland I'ld get free stuff and a bunch of local girls just waiting to jump me and drag me into the bushes for a chat
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quote:whats your friggin problem?
Can you look at what you've written and seriously imagine this reputation you imagine exists extends to cover whatever bad behavior you want to exhibit? There is no insurance policy to cover bad behavior.
Sure, you can get angry, I know I do, but try hard to display dignity and respect for yourself, the country you represent, the people on this board and the countries you discuss. I don't just mean America, I mean Holland, too.
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quote:we burned down the White house dispite the fact that you were an enourmously bigger country back then too
Um, Teshi, apparently, this actually did happen. I wasn't there, so I'm no witness, but it is reported to have happened on 24 August 1814. Granted, it wasn't called the White House then - that name stuck after the Americans whitewashed the building to cover the scorch marks. But still.
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Blayne Bradley
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ARGH BLOODY HELL!
This wasn't even the original point! The point was:
That Canada if the internation economy is adverse enough that it would be better to go without Canada has the potential to be self sufficient enough to afford to close its borders in order to avoid catastrophe.
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"Ok if the global economy collapses what does it matter? We probly one of the FEW countries not totally dependent on another country for SURVIVAL sure if the global economy is fine sure lets trade and make some money for healthcare.
I don't want canada to go isolentionist + 8 on me but I take confort in the fact that we could so it if we find ourselves in dire straights."
This i believe is me trying to reposition the topic back to where it is, its someone else who brought up the topic of invasion and to put it bluntly we'll kick any american army all the way down the mississipi and the gulf of texaco!
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I think the point might also be that, what with spelling errors or word usage problem combined with irregular punctuation, your ramblings are not exactly easy to read. So we have to get our fun wherever we can. Posts: 8355 | Registered: Apr 2003
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Blayne Bradley
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I doubt some of the previous critisism was meant in jest.
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Blayne Bradley
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"Yes, but you'll be drawn into the coming world war and lose everything."
AHA He's the one who suggested a war!
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Yeah, and so what that it'll be a thousand Americans to one. That hardly matters. We're so efficient and better that we can beat those odds. Posts: 8355 | Registered: Apr 2003
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Don't mess with the Canadians. I've seen how brilliantly Dudley Do-Right has bested Snidely Whiplash on numerous occasions.
If he is representative of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, we'd all better just show some respect.
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quote:Well to tell you the truth the Canadian army is far better drilled
But they have to stop for sixteen hours while their batteries recharge. And finding non-metric bits south of the border is a big hangup.
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That sucking sound ya hear is the US draining the world of resources. Canada's is the merest of echoes.
Ya really oughtta visit the UexcesSA, jebus. What the rest of the world considers enough for a decent-sized home is the space that an American household uses for storing junk "too good to just throw away".
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