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TheBlueShadow
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So, I'm taking French 1001 this summer and I've found it quite enjoyable.

Our homework is online and I'm having a particular problem with just one question.

It's a fill in the blank:
__________________ de personnes parlent français dans le monde.

I thought it should coordinate with the passage in the text that says:

Nombre de francophones dans le monde:
175.000.000 (cent soixante-quinze millions)

However, I can't quite get it to work. Am I totally off target?

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Flaming Toad on a Stick
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It isn't the way I would phrase it, but it should work. Is there anything else in the text relating to that question, such as a percentage, or a fraction? And remember to use commas, not periods.
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TheBlueShadow
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Well, I used periods because the book did. I'll look for a percentage.
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Maybe it's just "beaucoup de personnes." [Smile]
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TheBlueShadow
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Unfortunately, no luck with that either.

This is seriously the one downfall with online submitted homework. There's no leeway.

The column the answer should come from.

Les pays en chiffres

Nombre de pays où le français est langue officielle: 28

Nombre de pays où le français est parlé: plus de 60

Nombre de francophones dans le monde:
175.000.000 (cent soixante-quinze millions)


However shouldn't:

175,000,000 de personnes parlent français dans le monde.

work? Either written out or like that? Or should there be some article in front?

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Lyrhawn
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I'm confused. Isn't the answer just "combien"? You're trying to fill in the blank right? Or are you looking for how to phrase the answer to the fill in the blank question?
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Flaming Toad on a Stick
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That would have been my guess originally, but that would be a horrible fill-in-the-blanks question.

Edit: responding to Tom.

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TheBlueShadow
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I'm looking on how to phrase the answer to fit in the blank.
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Flaming Toad on a Stick
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Can you put "le" in front of "français"?
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Have you tried "Cent soixante-quinze millions?"
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TheBlueShadow
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No, none of that is changeable. It's just the beginning that I'm allowed to fill in.
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Lyrhawn
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Well then it'd read "175,000,000 people speak the french in the world" wouldn't it?

My French is a little rusty.

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quote:
Have you tried "Cent soixante-quinze millions?"
Yes.

quote:
175,000,000 people speak the french in the world" wouldn't it?
That's what I thought.
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Flaming Toad on a Stick
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Well then it'd read "175,000,000 people speak the french in the world" wouldn't it?

My French is a little rusty.

Yes. That's fine in French, though.
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I think I'll just submit the homework and email the professor. Thanks for trying though, everyone.

It's probably something stupid. I'll let you know.

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175 millions was the answer. [Roll Eyes]
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quote:
Originally posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick:
That would have been my guess originally, but that would be a horrible fill-in-the-blanks question.

In my experience, most automated online homework that isn't multiple choice tends to be pretty bad to use. Questions that require an exact numerical answer such as math or science questions can be ok, but even then my experience with them has been less than ideal.
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Flaming Toad on a Stick
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quote:
Originally posted by ricree101:
quote:
Originally posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick:
That would have been my guess originally, but that would be a horrible fill-in-the-blanks question.

In my experience, most automated online homework that isn't multiple choice tends to be pretty bad to use. Questions that require an exact numerical answer such as math or science questions can be ok, but even then my experience with them has been less than ideal.
That's actually my experience as well, in a chemistry class no less. The questions would never tell us the degree of significant digits required, which wouldn't be bad except the number of SD's in the answers were seemingly chosen at random. Combine that with limited answering ability and BINGO, you've got half the class failing it.
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Isn't the answer just "Millions"? Not precise, but it fits the grammar.
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TheBlueShadow
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quote:
Originally posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick:
quote:
Originally posted by ricree101:
quote:
Originally posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick:
That would have been my guess originally, but that would be a horrible fill-in-the-blanks question.

In my experience, most automated online homework that isn't multiple choice tends to be pretty bad to use. Questions that require an exact numerical answer such as math or science questions can be ok, but even then my experience with them has been less than ideal.
That's actually my experience as well, in a chemistry class no less. The questions would never tell us the degree of significant digits required, which wouldn't be bad except the number of SD's in the answers were seemingly chosen at random. Combine that with limited answering ability and BINGO, you've got half the class failing it.
Yep. This professor has given us unlimited attempts for fill-ins, which allows me to play with the wording. My math class allowed for 3 attempts. If you couldn't figure it out then it would force you to walk through example problems and you'd earn 3 more attempts. Time consuming but you could usually figure out how they wanted the answer to look with the example.

My professor sent an email onto the Vista company regarding my original question. Hopefully they'll add more correct answers to the program.

And now I know I can get help from you guys! If for no other reason than to confuse you all with the odd phrasing used in online fill-in-the-blank questions.

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Isn't the answer just "Millions"? Not precise, but it fits the grammar.
175 millions
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quote:
Originally posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Well then it'd read "175,000,000 people speak the french in the world" wouldn't it?

My French is a little rusty.

Yes. That's fine in French, though.
Really? I thought "le français" meant "the French," as in "the French people."
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
Really? I thought "le français" meant "the French," as in "the French people."

"The French people" would translate as "les français." "Le français" should be used when speaking about the language itself, which is why French speakers sometimes say "I speak ze French" when talking about their native language.

Also, the French DO NOT use commas when separating the thousands place from the hundreds place. They use periods. They use commas to separate decimals. Thus, the number 186,185.346 would be written as "186.185,346." Hope this helps.

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