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mr_porteiro_head
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According to a recent study*, there is a simple reason why text-based communication is so likely to get people bent out of shape -- we are only 50% likely to tell whether or not a text message is serious or sarcastic. Add to that the fact that we generally assume others will understand our tone, and that we usually (90% of the time) assume that we have correctly interpreted the message we have read, and you get a recipe for FLAME WARS.

Not surprising at all, but interesting still.

*seriously -- how many silly things have I seen following the words "according to a recent study"?

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smitty
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Just what the heck are you trying to say?
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suminonA
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Rule #173 for Internet (text) Communication: "Start with the assumption that the other person is just being sarcastic".
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mr_porteiro_head
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Yet anothe reason why sarcasm, in general, just isn't a good idea.

I often fail to perceive sarcasm.

While always assuming that the other person is being sarcastic might, numbers wise, be the more correct thing to do, I don't think I could bring myself to do it. It's like assuming that everybody is an idiot -- I'd usually be right, but I'd have to sacrifice part of my humanity in order to do so.

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mph, you may always assume I'm being sarcastic, unless I'm not. And you can pretty much always assume I'm an idiot.
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quote:
I often fail to perceive sarcasm.

I hadn't noticed.
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Funny, Tom.

That was sincere--I really did think it was funny. No sarcasm intended.

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Hmm

Shows the importance of tone in human language.

--j_k

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mph, you may always assume I'm being sarcastic
Not gonna happen.

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I hadn't noticed.
:pirate:
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quote:
It's like assuming that everybody is an idiot
Well, I assume that idiots can't be successfully sarcastic. So I apply rule #173 and I keep all the humanity [Wink]

A.

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SDNNWOTN.
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starLisa, are you trying to prove something? [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
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mph, you may always assume I'm being sarcastic
Not gonna happen.

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I hadn't noticed.
:pirate:

I demand you take me sarcastically! Oh, wait, I just remembered I'm apathetic. Take my meaning anyway that suits you.
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Take my meaning anyway that suits you.
Not gonna happen.
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smitty
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okey dokey. Take my meaning any way that doesn't suit you! [Smile]
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Rule #124 for internet (text) Communication: If you're attempting to avoid flame wars, assume the other guy's trying to be nice (failing, possibly, but trying).

If you have any other assumption, you will interpret anything said in the worst possible way and so on until you reach a situation akin to playing with matches in a napalm factory.

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okey dokey. Take my meaning any way that doesn't suit you! [Smile]
Stop telling me what to do. [Mad]
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Written sarcasm should be banned.
It pisses me off when I post something serious and one responds with stupid sarcasm that goes right over my head anyway.

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smitty
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Growl grumble growl.
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mr_porteiro_head
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My defence for that, Syn, is that I refuse to every feel bad for believing that somebody means what they say. [Smile]
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You don't seriously mean that, mph, do you?

-Bok

EDIT: Eh, didn't come out right... Carry on. My willingness to be funny outstrips my actual ability [Smile]

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Eh. That's what these [Smile] [Big Grin] [Wink] [Razz] [Roll Eyes] are for.
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Actually, I'm going to retroactively declare my post as being Meta-Funny(tm). That is, unintentionally proving the thread's point.

[Smile]

-Bok

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smitty
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Don't roll your eyes at me young lady!

You know, it's actually fun intentionally misinterpreting people. I might have to try this in real life. Until someone kills me.

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